[gentoo-ppc-user] test
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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] pbbuttonsd question
Well, you don't really have to modiffy it by hand, it is a simple patch to the kernel I tested it and it works perfectly. yours, kos Eric Robertson wrote: hmmm... I dont think I am up to modifying my kernel source by hand just yet (if I read Ben's response correctly). Thanks for the solution though. It's good to know a solution is out there. Konstantin V. Gavrilenko wrote: Here is an answer from Ben, I still have to test it myself. Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 21:09 +0100, Konstantin V. Gavrilenko wrote: SNIP Does this help ? Ben. -- From: Linux Kernel Mailing List linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org To: git-commits-head@vger.kernel.org Subject: [PATCH] powermac: Fix i2c on keywest based chips Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:11:14 GMT commit 60162e498e220d1f03bbee5bac0a9ddd6de60ae7 tree 8cbcbea6060eb2b9f7d39784385efdfc6e947b52 parent 28897731318dc8f63f683eed9091e446916ad706 author Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:11:53 +1000 committer Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:29:46 +1000 [PATCH] powermac: Fix i2c on keywest based chips The new i2c implementation for PowerMac has a regression that causes the hardware to go out of state when probing non-existent devices. While fixing that, I also found fixed a couple of other corner cases. This fixes booting with a pbbuttons version that scans the i2c bus for an LMU controller among others. Tested on a dual G5 with thermal control (which has heavy i2c activity) with no problem so far. Signed-off-by: Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] arch/powerpc/platforms/powermac/low_i2c.c | 78 -- Respectfully, Konstantin V. Gavrilenko Managing Director Arhont Ltd - Information Security web:http://www.arhont.com http://www.wi-foo.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 (0) 870 44 31337 fax: +44 (0) 117 969 0141 PGP: Key ID - 0xE81824F4 PGP: Server - keyserver.pgp.com -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] install gentoo in mac powerpc 7300/200
Yo trato pero no puedo ejecutar el fdisk me sale que no existe el mapa de particiones , pero a la hora que ejecuto el bootx comienza a cargar y ahi me va diciendo que tengo 2 discos scsi quantum y me dice hasta el tamaño , pero cuando llega al promt le hago el mac-fdisk y de ahi quiero listar algo con mac-fdisk -l no me sale nada , le pongo mac-fdisk c y me sale que no hay mapa de particiones creado, creo que gentoo no sirve para instalar en una powerpc 7300/200:(2006/5/31, Víctor Gonzalez Salcedo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Yo tengo una powerbook g4 y para hacer las particiones sí utilice el comando de la forma: livecd root# mac-fdisk /dev/hdalo anterior lo descubrí despues que intente muchas veces el comando con la opcion /dev/sda no se a que se deba, sin embargo ojala alguien lo pueda ratificar para estar seguro. saludosV3G0|\|52006/5/27, Dpto. Sistemas - Fyg Publicitarios [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gracias por responder , al hacer mac-fdisk -l no me sale nada solo me vuelve al promtlivecd root #pero creo que cuando hago dev/sda esto lo que hace es buscar pero dentro del livecd no?pero lo que deberia de tratar es ubicar esa ubicacion dentro de mi disco duro. Alguna otra sugerencia por favorGracias2006/5/27, Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ais, siento el error, si que tienes disco scsi, prueba a hacer ellistado con mac-fdisk -laver si reconoces tú disco.SaludosOn 27/05/06, Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buenas, intenta ejecutar un mac-fdisk -l para ver que discos tienes. Seguramente no sea /dev/sda (eso es para scsi). Prueba con /dev/hda. Saludos On 27/05/06, Dpto. Sistemas - Fyg Publicitarios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello pls any talk spanish? Buenas tardes , tengo una mac powerpc 7300/200 estoy tratando de instalar gentoo con el cd universal 2006, bootee con el Xboot pues he configurado mi red todo ok hasta ahi, despues de eso deseo crear mis particiones con mac-fdisk pero tengo un error a la hora de crear , aca les muestro: livecd root# mac-fdisk command (? for help):c No partition map exists alguien me puede ayudar a crear mi mapa de particiones? tengo un disco duro de 3 gb libres scsi cuando digito mac-fdisk /dev/sda sale el siguiente error : mac-fdisk can't open file´/dev/sda´ (no such file or directory) livecd root#Muchas gracias por su ayuda -- Jorge Rebaza Torres Departamento de Sistemas Fyg Publicitarios Sac 2010220 (511) 242-7735 Miraflores - Peru--gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jorge Rebaza Torres Departamento de SistemasFyg Publicitarios Sac2010220(511) 242-7735Miraflores - Peru -- Jorge Rebaza TorresDepartamento de SistemasFyg Publicitarios Sac2010220(511) 242-7735Miraflores - Peru
[gentoo-user] Spamassassin: Ignoring setup ???
Hi, I am using spamassassin in combination with exim and Emacs/Mew to handle my mails. Everything seems to work well. Spamassassin recognizes spam and write a X-Spam_score: 5.1 X-Spam_score_int: 51 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system solfire, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mr.Bob Watts, [...] Content analysis details: (5.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 1.2 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject is all capitals 0.9 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Dear Friend? That's not very dear! 1.2 BLANK_LINES_70_80 BODY: Message body has 70-80% blank lines0.5 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?207.178.136.150! ] 0.0 ADVANCE_FEE_1 Appears to be advance fee fraud (Nigerian 419) -field into the header of suspicious mails (exact output depends on the spam contents itsself). Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to convince Mew to scan not only the official mail header parts like To:, From: and such but also any other entry in the header. What remains is: I have to look for spam myself and being happy, that spamassassin has judged this or that mail as spam also. It would be nice, if spamassassin would put a ***SPAM*** directly into the Subject:-field, which can be scanned by Mew. In /etc/spamassassin/local.cf I found the following entry: # Add *SPAM* to the Subject header of spam e-mails # rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* add-header but.it seems to achieve nothing. Do I have to enable this somewhere else? Or why is spamassassin silently ignoring my wishes. Am I spam mysself ? ;) ;O)) I would be hapy about any hint about this problem! Kind regards, Meino Cramer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] switching arch from stable to testing?
Neil Bothwick wrote: Set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in make.conf. Do not set x86 or ~x86 in make.conf's USE. Thank you everyone! That and some fiddling with package.mask/unmask got the ball rolling. Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Fan
Hi! This what I get: $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/trip_points critical (S5): 97 C passive: 95 C: tc1=5 tc2=4 tsp=600 devices=0xc14defa0 $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/cooling_mode setting not supported cooling mode: passive I am not used to this stuff yet. What does it mean? Should I build the bios support in the kernel? These are my ACPI and APM settings: # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y # CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP is not set CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m # CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=y # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y # CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set # # APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support # # CONFIG_APM is not set Any hint? Thanks! Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On 5/30/06, JC Denton wrote: Hi! Where can I configure my fan? I have a Thinkpad R40 and the fan starts realy often. The thing is, the air coming out of the notebook is almost cold! Also the fan runs always in the highest mode. But is had at least 2 modes. I have all the acpi stuff enabled in the kernel but no bios-support. Can I change the temperature values (I know it is some risk ;-) )? Can I set the fan speed somewhere?Is your fan controlled by ACPI? Do you have the ACPI fan driverbuilt? If both are true, you should get some files in /proc/acpi/fanthat may allow you to manually control the fan.You might also see if 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/cooling_mode' or'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/trip_points' report anythinginteresting.Unfortunately the fan in my Dell is controlled by the hardware orBIOS, so I can't be of a lot of help here.-Richard-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Lesen Sie nur die Mails, die Sie auch wirklich lesen wollen.
[gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
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Hiya list,
I bought myself a new AMD Athlon64 in December, and initially installed
it as a 64-bit Gentoo. In January this year I decided to reinstall it as
a 32-bit OS due to constant issues with flash plugins, win32 codecs etc.
Seems I made one muck-up ... I used (for the 32-bit OS):
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -msse2 -O2 -pipe -ftracer -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
instead of (according to
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Opteron.2FAthlon64_.28AMD.29):
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon64 -msse2 -O2 -pipe -ftracer -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
Notice the athlon-xp = athlon64...
Does anyone with an good understanding of these flags know the
consequences/results of
a) Keeping the old flags (athlon-xp)?
b) Changing to the new flags without a total reinstall?
While I understand that I quite possibly have to reinstall several
packages if I change the flags, which are the ones to pay particular
note to, or is such a change drastic to the OS requiring a total rebuild
of everything?
Please advise.
Greetings,
Ralph
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[gentoo-user] sys-apps/shadow and sys-apps/pam-login in conflict (pam-login not needed?)
Hi, Today I got a blocker when trying to do emerge -vauDN world. The blocker was pam-login. I un-merged this and repeated the emerge which completed flawlessly. Then I tried to re-emerge pam-login but now I am getting: ## omc-2 ~ # emerge -va sys-apps/pam-login These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14) [ebuild N] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14 -livecd +nls (-selinux) -skey 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. ## I have shadow-4.0.15-r2 on the system. This post: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict seems to indicate that I do not need pam-login anymore. Is that still correct? Thanks, jules # emerge --info ## omc-2 ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.0.54-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2006.0, gcc-3.4.5, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 x86_64) = System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252 Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: [Not Present] dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib64/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.no/ http://gentoo.prz.rzeszow.pl http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo ftp://mirror.pudas.net/gentoo; MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=amd64 X aac aalib alsa apache2 audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 cdr cli crypt cups curl dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emacs emboss encode esd exif expat fam fbcon foomaticdb fortran gd gdbm gif glut gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml hal iconv idn imlib ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg lcms ldap libwww lua lzw lzw-tiff mad mng motif mozilla mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png pppd python quicktime readline recode reflection sdl session slang spell spl ssl tcltk tcpd tetex theora tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode usb vorbis wma xine xml2 xmms xorg xpm xv xvid zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Fan
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:14 +0200, JC Denton wrote: This what I get: $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/trip_points critical (S5): 97 C I _think_ (note: think) that when /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature reaches /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/trip_points then something happens! Whether that something is kernel triggered, bios triggered, or what, I don't know. I don't think this affects your fan directly though, rather your fan (obviously) affects /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature. Did you check out the bios? Did you look at /proc/acpi/fan, as suggested? -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au We is confronted with insurmountable opportunities. -- Walt Kelly, Pogo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/shadow and sys-apps/pam-login in conflict (pam-login not needed?)
Jules Colding wrote: ## omc-2 ~ # emerge -va sys-apps/pam-login These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14) [ebuild N] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14 -livecd +nls (-selinux) -skey 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. ## Make sure pam-login isn't in your world, and make sure you're on the latest profile so that it isn't being dragged in by system. Also double-check that the pam USE-flag is in effect for shadow. emerge -pvuDNt world might help if there's a dep on pam-login from another package, rather than from system or world. Oh, and rebuild shadow, pam and openssh before you log out or reboot - I was locked out of my router for ten minutes today after doing this update. etc-update and revdep-rebuild didn't catch anything. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] For the benefit of John Laremore
On Tue, 30 May 2006 18:31:33 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: I'm a gmail user, even though my address isn't a @gmail.com. I would definitely appreciate it if you let me know if you see this from any of my postings. It seemed to be a one off, only affecting this particular mail of Daniel's. Probably a glitch somewhere that made one server in the chain think the next one hadn't received it, so it resent. The posts came at increasing intervals, which would tally with such a situation. BTW, I only see one of Daniel's email, even though it clearly shows up 5 times in the archives. Maybe gmail is filtering their own mistakes? Google get more like MS every day :) gmail is probably automatically filtering duplicates, based on Message-ID. That would explain gmail users' own posts to the list not showing up in their inboxes, because they already have a mail with the same ID. -- Neil Bothwick The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten per cent of its capacity ... the rest is overhead for the operating system. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/shadow and sys-apps/pam-login in conflict (pam-login not needed?)
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 00:38 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote: Jules Colding wrote: ## omc-2 ~ # emerge -va sys-apps/pam-login These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14) [ebuild N] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14 -livecd +nls (-selinux) -skey 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. ## Make sure pam-login isn't in your world, and make sure you're on the latest profile so that it isn't being dragged in by system. Also double-check that the pam USE-flag is in effect for shadow. emerge -pvuDNt world might help if there's a dep on pam-login from another package, rather than from system or world. Oh, and rebuild shadow, pam and openssh before you log out or reboot - I was locked out of my router for ten minutes today after doing this update. etc-update and revdep-rebuild didn't catch anything. Thanks a lot for your explanation. Rebuilding now... Best regards, jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rsyncd problem...
Hi all, I am trying to get an rsync server running on my Gentoo server box in order to run backups to the server from my other machines. I have a very simple rsyncd.conf file, (see below), and from what I can tell, I should be able to rsync some files across from a different box. The command I am using to rsync from a different box is: rsync -avz test.xml 192.168.0.100:rsync I have also tried the following with the same results: rsync test.xml 192.168.0.100:rsync The result is that I am continually prompted for a password. As far as I can tell from the rsyncd.conf no password should be required (which is fine as the rsync port cannot be reached from outside the intranet). The rsyncd: # This line is required by the /etc/init.d/rsyncd script pid file = /var/run/rsyncd.pid use chroot = yes read only = false log file = /var/log/rsyncd.log # Simple example for enabling your own local rsync server [rsync] path = /srv/rsync comment = Main Rsync Server Any help appreciated. -- Ant... -- Anthony Roy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This communication represents the originator's personal views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of HPI Limited. If you are not the original recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error, and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] message has been scanned by Anti-Virus. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus checks to this message on delivery. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/login.defs
Leandro Melo de Sales schrieb: I updated some programs and after this, everytime I go to a terminal, type my username I got the following messages: configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator How can I solve this? Leandro. As far a I know by running etc-update. Some configs concerning the login have changed a few weeks ago. Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/login.defs
Thank u Christian! 2006/5/31, Christian Limberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Leandro Melo de Sales schrieb: I updated some programs and after this, everytime I go to a terminal, type my username I got the following messages: configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator How can I solve this? Leandro. As far a I know by running etc-update. Some configs concerning the login have changed a few weeks ago. Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil Sometimes people fall in love, but a little bit of them really love or find a truth love. Or sometimes they find it but for some reason they let love pass without live it intensely. This is the free-well. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Fan
On 5/31/06, JC Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! This what I get: $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/trip_points critical (S5): 97 C passive: 95 C: tc1=5 tc2=4 tsp=600 devices=0xc14defa0 Ok, assuming I am reading /usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi/thermal.c correctly, these mean your system will start throttling the CPU when it reaches 95C, and shutdown at 97C. Unfortunately you do not have an 'active' mode that would allow you to set the temperature when the fan turns on or off. Unless you have something under /proc/acpi/fan, it looks like your fan is controlled by either the hardware or the BIOS. $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/cooling_mode setting not supported cooling mode: passive I am not used to this stuff yet. What does it mean? It means that if the system gets too warm, all the OS can do about it is to throttle the CPU. No fan control is available Should I build the bios support in the kernel? What do you mean? Do you mean APM support? If so, no, that almost certainly will not help. -Richard PS. Please remember that sending html emails and top-posting are generally considered bad-form on this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:51, Ralph Slooten wrote:
Hiya list,
I bought myself a new AMD Athlon64 in December, and initially installed
it as a 64-bit Gentoo. In January this year I decided to reinstall it as
a 32-bit OS due to constant issues with flash plugins, win32 codecs etc.
netscape-flash works with mozilla-firefox-bin and any other 32-bit browser,
it's also possible to make it work with 64-bit konqueror. You might also be
interested in looking at net-www/gnash, still alpha quality but will
hopefully become a fully fledged flash player with amd64 support.
mplayer-bin will play all codecs that you normally need win32codecs for. Also
if you're like many users and WMV3 videos are all you use win32codecs for,
you might be interested to know that a VC-1 (WMV3) codec is a google summer
of code project, so will hopefully be in a future version of ffmpeg soon.
Seems I made one muck-up ... I used (for the 32-bit OS):
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -msse2 -O2 -pipe -ftracer -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
instead of (according to
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Opteron.2FAthlon64_.28AMD.29):
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon64 -msse2 -O2 -pipe -ftracer -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
-march=athlon64 implies -msse2, all amd64 cpus have sse2 support.
Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it
but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead.
Notice the athlon-xp = athlon64...
Does anyone with an good understanding of these flags know the
consequences/results of
a) Keeping the old flags (athlon-xp)?
b) Changing to the new flags without a total reinstall?
AFAIK '-march=athlon-xp -msse2' is equivalent to '-march=athlon64'
While I understand that I quite possibly have to reinstall several
packages if I change the flags, which are the ones to pay particular
note to, or is such a change drastic to the OS requiring a total rebuild
of everything?
Please advise.
I would not bother with a full system rebuild, everything should be fine.
Greetings,
Ralph
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[gentoo-user] vde and amd64
Hi, I have an AMD64 bos and want to use qemu+kqemu with network support. tutorials indicates to use vde, but it is not KEYWORD'd for amd64. My installation is already globally ~amd64 Curious as I am, I added ~amd64 in the vde 1.5.8 ebuild. then, I made a: # emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild but here is the result emerging by path implies --oneshot... adding --oneshot to options. *** emerging by path is broken and may not always work!!! Calculating dependencies... done! Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/vde-1.5.8 to / checking ebuild checksums !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 767 How could I update the ebuild checksum? or try to emerge it? -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vde and amd64
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 11:12, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Hi, I have an AMD64 bos and want to use qemu+kqemu with network support. tutorials indicates to use vde, but it is not KEYWORD'd for amd64. My installation is already globally ~amd64 Curious as I am, I added ~amd64 in the vde 1.5.8 ebuild. then, I made a: # emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild but here is the result emerging by path implies --oneshot... adding --oneshot to options. *** emerging by path is broken and may not always work!!! Calculating dependencies... done! Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/vde-1.5.8 to / checking ebuild checksums !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 767 How could I update the ebuild checksum? or try to emerge it? The bad way would be to issue ebuild /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild digest to rigenerate the meta-info, and re-emerge vde. The better way is to use an overlay (eg, /usr/local/portage), copy the ebuild there, modify it and run the above commands on _that_ copy of the ebuild. See here for more info about portage overlays: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=5 http://gentoo-wiki.com/Portage_Overlay http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds (your modified ebuild becomes sort of a 3rd party ebuild) And don't forget to file a bug with the results. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vde and amd64
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 11:12 +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Curious as I am, I added ~amd64 in the vde 1.5.8 ebuild. then, I made a: # emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild [...] !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size How could I update the ebuild checksum? or try to emerge it? # ebuild /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild digest # emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vde and amd64
On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:27:13 +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: # ebuild /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild digest # emerge /usr/portage/net-misc/vde/vde-1.5.8.ebuild emerge --digest =net-misc/vde-1.5.8 -- Neil Bothwick But, I DO know everything. - Q. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] For the benefit of John Laremore
Daniel da Veiga wrote: I didn't understand why the hit 5 times button stuff on me. So, checked gmail, and voilá, like someone said, its filtering its own mistakes. Its clearly a problem with gmail, and now I'm concerned that most of my emails may have this problems. But, as someone also clearly posted, they are all the exact same message, I guess gmail just assumed a mistake when sending and retried it till get a success confirmation (wich occured by the fifth message). I'm sorry for that, but as clearly stated, it was not my fault. Maybe something regarding my proxy at work, because this was the first time I posted from work... Dunno. Anyway, I'm sorry again. But you Iain Buchanan, I won't forgive you! :-) At least till your mail client do something stupid *lol* Please let me now if this happens again, and I'll post a warning both to the Gmail Team and to the administrator of my proxy server. Thanks, So far, I have only got this one once. Where you at home for this one? If you are, send a reply from work and see what it does. We may learn something. I use Mozilla mail here. I got them all. It's no biggie but someone has something messed up. May as well see if we can figure it out. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: netscape-flash works with mozilla-firefox-bin and any other 32-bit browser, it's also possible to make it work with 64-bit konqueror. You might also be interested in looking at net-www/gnash, still alpha quality but will hopefully become a fully fledged flash player with amd64 support. Yes hopefully ... An alternative to proprietary software is almost always my first choice, as long as it works ;-) One big issue I had was firefox with all the plugins ~ 32bit binary with flash was ok, but then the mplayer-plug-in wasn't ... etc etc... mplayer-bin will play all codecs that you normally need win32codecs for. Also if you're like many users and WMV3 videos are all you use win32codecs for, you might be interested to know that a VC-1 (WMV3) codec is a google summer of code project, so will hopefully be in a future version of ffmpeg soon. And again... hopefully. The thing was I didn't want to install bin files, and all the libs etc for compatibility was one of the reasons I switched (for the time being until 64bit is properly supported for everything). Another reason is I'm a Linux-beta tester for Skype, which is also of course 32bit. Either way, I'm not going back just yet to 64bit but simply looking for the 32bit solution ;-) -march=athlon64 implies -msse2, all amd64 cpus have sse2 support. Nice tip, I'll remove it. Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. AFAIK '-march=athlon-xp -msse2' is equivalent to '-march=athlon64' Interesting. Maybe someone else can clarify this? It might be the reason I had these flags to start off with, but again I'm not sure. The gentoo wiki implies they are for different architectures: Athlon XP (AMD) = Opteron/Athlon64 (AMD) I would not bother with a full system rebuild, everything should be fine. Thanks Raymond for the tips. Greetings, Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEfWdoCt0ZF9kLPvYRAmfnAKChkLJPlvgXZUv/tUfsomMm9E/chACcCfra 4y8n8hs18A+XEP9z2d/Nie8= =fS3B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge mplayer windows codecs
Hi, I would like to decode some wmv and realplayer videos to any other format. I intend to use this way, for example: http://www.annodex.net/node/57 But I need mplayer to read wmv and ram videos. I will also need mplayer to read wma, because I have some audio files to convert. What USE flags would you recommend? I am using an amd64 Gentoo. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mplayer windows codecs
emerge mplayer-bin There is no native 64-bit solution for windows media or real formats. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:34, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Hi, I would like to decode some wmv and realplayer videos to any other format. I intend to use this way, for example: http://www.annodex.net/node/57 But I need mplayer to read wmv and ram videos. I will also need mplayer to read wma, because I have some audio files to convert. What USE flags would you recommend? I am using an amd64 Gentoo. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
Yes they are for different architectures, the main architectural difference being the addition of sse2 in athlon64 cpus. There may possibly be other differences in how gcc optimizes based on that -march setting, however i'm not 100% certain if this is the case, I suspect not. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:22, Ralph Slooten wrote: AFAIK '-march=athlon-xp -msse2' is equivalent to '-march=athlon64' Interesting. Maybe someone else can clarify this? It might be the reason I had these flags to start off with, but again I'm not sure. The gentoo wiki implies they are for different architectures: Athlon XP (AMD) = Opteron/Athlon64 (AMD) -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Fan
Yes. The path exists but it contains no file.Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:14 +0200, JC Denton wrote: This what I get:$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/trip_points critical (S5): 97 C I _think_ (note: think) that when/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperaturereaches/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/trip_pointsthen something happens!Whether that "something" is kernel triggered, bios triggered, or what, Idon't know.I don't think this affects your fan directly though, rather your fan(obviously) affects /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature.Did you check out the bios?Did you look at /proc/acpi/fan, as suggested?-- Iain Buchanan We is confronted with insurmountable opportunities. -- Walt Kelly, "Pogo"-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Yahoo! Mail schützt Sie vor lästigen und gefährlichen Viren.
Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Fan
There is nothing in the path /proc/acpi/fan/ it is empty. Are there special modules I have to compile against the kernel?Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On 5/31/06, JC Denton wrote: Hi! This what I get: $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/trip_points critical (S5): 97 C passive: 95 C: tc1=5 tc2=4 tsp=600 devices=0xc14defa0Ok, assuming I am reading /usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi/thermal.ccorrectly, these mean your system will start throttling the CPU whenit reaches 95C, and shutdown at 97C. Unfortunately you do not have an'active' mode that would allow you to set the temperature when the fanturns on or off.Unless you have something under /proc/acpi/fan, it looks like your fanis controlled by either the hardware or the BIOS. $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/cooling_modecooling mode: passive I am not used to this stuff yet. What does it mean?It means that if the system gets too warm, all the OS can do about itis to throttle the CPU. No fan control is available Should I build the bios support in the kernel?What do you mean? Do you mean APM support? If so, no, that almostcertainly will not help.-RichardPS. Please remember that sending html emails and top-posting aregenerally considered bad-form on this list.-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Telefonieren Sie ohne weitere Kosten mit Ihren Freunden von PC zu PC!Jetzt Yahoo! Messenger installieren!
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages which provide a file
Hi Daniel, on Friday, 2006-05-26 at 19:54:11, you wrote: http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/pfs/ Oh, that's two streets away from here :) Looks like a project I'd want to participate in... cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpJybA1VMobN.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] xrdb woes
Hello, I've been fighting this problem for some weeks now. It seem that xrdb lauches after a (KDE) login session is initiated on a portable. None of my other Gentoo/KDE machines exhibit this problem. While the 'peripherals' icon is flashing the login hangs. I ssh into the machine remotely, and kill off the xrdb process: 'xrdb -quiet -merge /tmp/kde-james/kcminit6pdVqc.tmp' After that the loging session completes and everything seems to be fine. I cannot find a 'Xdefaults' file anywhere on the system, so maybe that's the problem? Both xorg and kde-base have been re-compiled. Any ideas on how to track this down ths problem are appreciated. xrdb is not even installed. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rsyncd problem...
On May 31, 2006, at 2:57 AM, Anthony Roy wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get an rsync server running on my Gentoo server box in order to run backups to the server from my other machines. I have a very simple rsyncd.conf file, (see below), and from what I can tell, I should be able to rsync some files across from a different box. The command I am using to rsync from a different box is: rsync -avz test.xml 192.168.0.100:rsync I have also tried the following with the same results: rsync test.xml 192.168.0.100:rsync The result is that I am continually prompted for a password. As far as I can tell from the rsyncd.conf no password should be required (which is fine as the rsync port cannot be reached from outside the intranet). The rsyncd: # This line is required by the /etc/init.d/rsyncd script pid file = /var/run/rsyncd.pid use chroot = yes read only = false log file = /var/log/rsyncd.log # Simple example for enabling your own local rsync server [rsync] path = /srv/rsync comment = Main Rsync Server Any help appreciated. -- Ant... -- Anthony Roy unless you say otherwise, rsync uses ssh. unless you set it up to use key authentication, ssh will require a password. what i do in such instances, is set up a special user with read access to the files to be backed up, create a key with ssh-geygen on the backup server. then on the server to be backed up, for that user put it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. with the rsync command you can force it to use a particular credential to auth to ssh with. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some help :) -- My IDS box is the next one on the list to be fixed. I would like to be able to rebuild the kernel for what I use it for - -No problem there -- that's simple. And I would like to take out all the unused use flags and replace them with a basic set - -this is where I have gotten into trouble before on the other systems -- I can edit them in make.conf so I have what I want - right now it looks like I will be using USE=apache2 dev/lang-php mysql -ipv6 -mmx -mp3 -nls -xmms -alsa -arts Knowing that, once I edit make.conf, what do I need to do next to get stuff re-compiled etc? Any other recommendation etc??? Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [SPAM] - Re: [gentoo-user] rsyncd problem... - Email found in subject
Hi John, unless you say otherwise, rsync uses ssh. unless you set it up to use key authentication, ssh will require a password. Ah. Makes sense. How do I tell it *not* to use ssh? As I said, I don't need it to be secure, just simple - the rsync server won't be exposed outside of the firewall. -- Anthony Roy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This communication represents the originator's personal views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of HPI Limited. If you are not the original recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error, and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] message has been scanned by Anti-Virus. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus checks to this message on delivery. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some help :) -- Too much optimisation can be a bad thing. My IDS box is the next one on the list to be fixed. I would like to be able to rebuild the kernel for what I use it for - -No problem there -- that's simple. And I would like to take out all the unused use flags and replace them with a basic set - -this is where I have gotten into trouble before on the other systems -- I can edit them in make.conf so I have what I want - right now it looks like I will be using USE=apache2 dev/lang-php mysql -ipv6 -mmx -mp3 -nls -xmms -alsa -arts What is dev/lang-php doing in there? If your intention is for the mysql USE flag to only apply to dev/lang-php then put the line 'dev-lang/php mysql' into /etc/portage/package.use Also mmx is not a default USE flag, specifically disabling it is redundant. Knowing that, once I edit make.conf, what do I need to do next to get stuff re-compiled etc? if you had looked at the emerge man page you'd have noticed the 'N' argument. Any other recommendation etc??? My recommendation is to not touch any USE flags that you don't understand. The defaults are usually perfectly fine unless you have a good reason to disable particular flags. I would also recommend that you go through and read all the portage documentation. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:22 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some help :) -- Too much optimisation can be a bad thing. My IDS box is the next one on the list to be fixed. I would like to be able to rebuild the kernel for what I use it for - -No problem there -- that's simple. And I would like to take out all the unused use flags and replace them with a basic set - -this is where I have gotten into trouble before on the other systems -- I can edit them in make.conf so I have what I want - right now it looks like I will be using USE=apache2 dev/lang-php mysql -ipv6 -mmx -mp3 -nls -xmms -alsa -arts What is dev/lang-php doing in there? If your intention is for the mysql USE flag to only apply to dev/lang-php then put the line 'dev-lang/php mysql' into /etc/portage/package.use Also mmx is not a default USE flag, specifically disabling it is redundant. Knowing that, once I edit make.conf, what do I need to do next to get stuff re-compiled etc? if you had looked at the emerge man page you'd have noticed the 'N' argument. Any other recommendation etc??? My recommendation is to not touch any USE flags that you don't understand. The defaults are usually perfectly fine unless you have a good reason to disable particular flags. I would also recommend that you go through and read all the portage documentation. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. The -mmx and several of the others are there to keep conky from pulling in a bunch of stuff as well that it does not need Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
I believe you're looking for the 'php' USE flag. dev-lang/php is not a USE flag it's the php package. As I stated previously, mmx is not set by default, so '-mmx' is redundant. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:59, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: [Timothy A. Holmes] Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. The -mmx and several of the others are there to keep conky from pulling in a bunch of stuff as well that it does not need Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [SPAM] - Re: [gentoo-user] rsyncd problem... - Email found in subject
On May 31, 2006, at 7:07 AM, Anthony Roy wrote: Hi John, unless you say otherwise, rsync uses ssh. unless you set it up to use key authentication, ssh will require a password. Ah. Makes sense. How do I tell it *not* to use ssh? As I said, I don't need it to be secure, just simple - the rsync server won't be exposed outside of the firewall. I normally hate this answer, but i looked it up and it's more meat than you want to read via email. man rsync has a section on using an rsh program...basically, it's an argument to --rsh= so read the man page for rsync, it goes into a lot of detail. Also, you might consider that a crust defense (i.e. relying solely on a firewall) is contrary to current security best practices. I normally favor external-facing firewalls, internal firewalls on each box, and encrypting and securing all transports that can be. but if it's just a home network...maybe not such a big deal. personally, there are too many windows boxes on my home network for that kind of trust. and you can NEVER trust the kids :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. What makes you think there's a) a slash-notation in USE flags b) this specific USE flag? dev-lang/php really looks like a package specification, not a USE flag. And: What is BASE? The -mmx and several of the others are there to keep conky from pulling in a bunch of stuff as well that it does not need When mmx isn't set by default there's no good reason to disable it, right? Make sure that you have understood what USE flags really do. As you're talking about a IDS, my suggestion would even be to start with all USE flags unset by default, i.e. your USE variable in /etc/make.conf should start with -* then. You'll probably want to add some of these to the default flags, too: nptl nptlonly ssl zlib jpeg png alsa ncurses pic nls pam. You can then specify further package specific refinements in /etc/portage/package.use. For an explanation what is happening at all, see man portage and man make.conf. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a dependency of that program. USE flags only affect optional dependencies, such as when a program can be built with or without php support. You really should read the USE flag documentation before messing with them too much. Along with the flexibility it brings, Gentoo gives you a great deal of power to totally fsck your system by fiddling with things you don't understand. One would have thought that after destroying five systems in this way, you would have resorted to the documentation. Check /usr/portage/profiles/use.*desc for descriptions of all USE flags and 'emerge --info' to see which are in effect on your system. Finally, don't change to many at once, and keep track of what you have done. that way, if things do go wrong, you can retrace your steps and find the cause (and solution). -- Neil Bothwick Jimmy Hoffa is buried here -- X signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] wine + msi
kedd 30 május 2006 10.19 dátummal Christian Heinz ezt írta: On Tue, 30 May 2006 10:00:54 +0200 Stefán István [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List! Does somebody know how to start a windows msi install file with wine? If I just simply try to start it I get the following error message: $ wine /mnt/cdrom/Installation/HydroGeo_Analyst.msi wine: could not load LZ: \\mnt\\cdrom\\Installation\\HydroGeo_Analyst.msi: Bad EXE format for Thanks for the help in advance, Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, $ msiexec /i /mnt/cdrom/Installation/HydroGeo_Analyst.msi should work for you. msiexec is a builtin wine utility. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thanks for the helps, and sorry for being lazy to google around. Regards, Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage 2.1 uses LINGUAS, why?
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1_rc3-r2 [2.1_rc3-r1] USE=doc -build LINGUAS=-pl 3 kB Any good explanation why portage hates polish? I never used pl in LINGUAS, have LINGUAS=cs in make.conf all the time. And It's not just rc3-r2, I already noticed this before. I would rather expect portage to be linguas neutral. -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: xrdb woes
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: While the 'peripherals' icon is flashing the KDE login hangs. I ssh into the machine remotely, and kill off the xrdb process: 'xrdb -quiet -merge /tmp/kde-james/kcminit6pdVqc.tmp' After that the loging session completes and everything seems to be fine. I cannot find a 'Xdefaults' file anywhere on the system, so maybe that's the problem? Both xorg and kde-base have been re-compiled. OK since nobody seems willing to give me ideas on how to track this problem down, I have written a short (ugly) bash script to kill of the xrdb process. It works when I ssh into the hung machine and execute it. I thought I could just add the script to the .bash_profile file but it does not seem to ever sources that file so I need a more clever way to lauch the 'xrdbkill' script after I initiate a login Any ideas on the best way to trigger this script? The .bash_profile file does not get accessed. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.1 uses LINGUAS, why?
Hates Polish? I think including (what I assume is) a Polish translations of portage would indicate that it loves polish :p If you don't want polish then don't put 'pl' in your LINGUAS variable, if you want to be able to set 'cs' for portage than make a translation. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:04, Petr Kocmid wrote: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1_rc3-r2 [2.1_rc3-r1] USE=doc -build LINGUAS=-pl 3 kB Any good explanation why portage hates polish? I never used pl in LINGUAS, have LINGUAS=cs in make.conf all the time. And It's not just rc3-r2, I already noticed this before. I would rather expect portage to be linguas neutral. -- Petr -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a dependency of that program. USE flags only affect optional dependencies, such as when a program can be built with or without php support. You really should read the USE flag documentation before messing with them too much. Along with the flexibility it brings, Gentoo gives you a great deal of power to totally fsck your system by fiddling with things you don't understand. One would have thought that after destroying five systems in this way, you would have resorted to the documentation. Check /usr/portage/profiles/use.*desc for descriptions of all USE flags and 'emerge --info' to see which are in effect on your system. Finally, don't change to many at once, and keep track of what you have done. that way, if things do go wrong, you can retrace your steps and find the cause (and solution). -- Neil Bothwick Jimmy Hoffa is buried here -- X [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil and others: Thanks for the input, you are correct, I accidentally put a package specification into the original post rather than the appropriate use flag -- my goof The USE line that I want should look more like: USE=php session cli gd pear apache2 mysql ssl png jpeg gif This USE Specification comes from the WIKI article about the installation of Snort and BASE found at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_BASE_with_Apache,_Snort,_and_PostgreS QL With two slight changes 1. I use MySQL rather than postgreSQL 2. I am not using hardened sources or hardened php I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original thought was to simply change the use flags to those that I wanted, and emerge -e world, apparently, this is not correct? As far as portage documentation, I have not been able to find a wiki article or other document that indicates how to change from a system created by the installer disk to one that is personally optimized. If there is such a document, I will be most happy to read it, as it would really simplify things. I do understand that there is significant power in the USE flags, and after having destroyed 5 systems, I came to the group asking for help to avoid making a similar mistake again. The portage docs that I have seen so far (specifically those in the gentoo handbook), do not SEEM (that I have found) to cover this type of eventuality, but rather provide a general guide line for its use. Again, If I have missed the appropriate doc someplace, please let me know. To answer Raymonds question specifically, BASE is the web interface and reporting engine that I use for the SNORT IDS, and it is the reason that php and mysql and apache2 are in the list I will freely admit that my understanding of portage and the USE flags is somewhat limited, and that is part of the reason that I came to the group for help rather than just blindly plunging ahead as I did previously. I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am quite open to using it, if someone can please send me a link. Thank you all for your time and your help - -I greatly appreciate it TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what is calling perl all the time?
Hi all, I have the weirdest poRblem I've experienced yet: recently, my cpu monitor and process count monitor started showing all these spikes, so it looks like a comb! Wondering why, I did some investigating. Watching top, perl seems to appear and disappear all the time. I can't trace it to anything, but it's annoying! It's only eating up a small (15%) Chunk of cpu for about 1 second in every two, so I don't notice it all that much, but still it shouldn't be there. I wouldn't have a clue where to start looking for this one - system logs show nothing of value. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!! thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au It is not a good omen when goldfish commit suicide. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xrdb woes
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 13:41 +, James wrote: Any ideas on the best way to trigger this script? The .bash_profile file does not get accessed. from man bash --noprofile Do not read either the system-wide startup file /etc/profile or any of the personal initialization files ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, or ~/.profile. By default, bash reads these files when it is invoked as a login shell (see INVOCATION below). so maybe ssh is not treated as a login shell, although I thought it was! Have a look at the INVOCATION section of `man bash` to get more info. Maybe bash treats ssh like rsh and executes .bashrc for ssh connections, not .bash_profile... HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The faster I go, the behinder I get. -- Lewis Carroll -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what is calling perl all the time?
I don't know, a good start might be checking your rc-scripts, I mean which ones are turned on. switching off the non-mandatory ones might be a start. then, what window-manager are you using? could it, or some related sft be the reason? you should start from as little 'extra' (i.e. wm, daemons..) as possible and go to enable things one by one. greets, KArsten Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I have the weirdest poRblem I've experienced yet: recently, my cpu monitor and process count monitor started showing all these spikes, so it looks like a comb! Wondering why, I did some investigating. Watching top, perl seems to appear and disappear all the time. I can't trace it to anything, but it's annoying! It's only eating up a small (15%) Chunk of cpu for about 1 second in every two, so I don't notice it all that much, but still it shouldn't be there. I wouldn't have a clue where to start looking for this one - system logs show nothing of value. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!! thanks, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xgl mem usage
Hi, Is the Xgl mem usage how it should be? For me Xgl starts with 69m RES. After one day it uses 290m RES. It had 400m RES, too until i restarted X. It seems for me, like it does not use cache. Is this correct? Lukas signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original thought was to simply change the use flags to those that I wanted, and emerge -e world, apparently, this is not correct? Re-emerging everything is unnecessary, especially if you are only changing a few flags. emerge -uavDN world will re-emerge everything affected by your changed flags, and allow you to see what it is going to do before it starts. If you have any doubt as to what an emerge will do, run it with --verbose and either --pretend or --ask first. As far as portage documentation, I have not been able to find a wiki article or other document that indicates how to change from a system created by the installer disk to one that is personally optimized. Therein lies one of the problems with the installer. The manual installation requires you to gain some understanding of how Gentoo works in order to build a system. That understanding is also needed to administer the system. By using the installer, you bypass the initial learning curve which, paradoxically, can make things more difficult in the long run. I am going to suggest a course of action that I normally find totally pointless, re-install. If you build your system again without the installer, you will be able to configure it to suit your needs from scratch, and you will have a greater understanding of the system, making it easier to maintain. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the Death Star exploded around him. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:41 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original thought was to simply change the use flags to those that I wanted, and emerge -e world, apparently, this is not correct? Re-emerging everything is unnecessary, especially if you are only changing a few flags. emerge -uavDN world will re-emerge everything affected by your changed flags, and allow you to see what it is going to do before it starts. If you have any doubt as to what an emerge will do, run it with --verbose and either --pretend or --ask first. As far as portage documentation, I have not been able to find a wiki article or other document that indicates how to change from a system created by the installer disk to one that is personally optimized. Therein lies one of the problems with the installer. The manual installation requires you to gain some understanding of how Gentoo works in order to build a system. That understanding is also needed to administer the system. By using the installer, you bypass the initial learning curve which, paradoxically, can make things more difficult in the long run. I am going to suggest a course of action that I normally find totally pointless, re-install. If you build your system again without the installer, you will be able to configure it to suit your needs from scratch, and you will have a greater understanding of the system, making it easier to maintain. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the Death Star exploded around him. [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done an additional 5 or so installations by hand from the basic disk. I understand the processes there, I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case Thanks again TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] what is calling perl all the time?
Title: RE: [gentoo-user] what is calling perl all the time? Take a look at your cron jobs. -Original Message- From: krgn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 5/31/2006 10:22 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what is calling perl all the time? I don't know, a good start might be checking your rc-scripts, I mean which ones are turned on. switching off the non-mandatory ones might be a start. then, what window-manager are you using? could it, or some related sft be the reason? you should start from as little 'extra' (i.e. wm, daemons..) as possible and go to enable things one by one. greets, KArsten Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I have the weirdest poRblem I've experienced yet: recently, my cpu monitor and process count monitor started showing all these spikes, so it looks like a comb! Wondering why, I did some investigating. Watching top, perl seems to appear and disappear all the time. I can't trace it to anything, but it's annoying! It's only eating up a small (15%) Chunk of cpu for about 1 second in every two, so I don't notice it all that much, but still it shouldn't be there. I wouldn't have a clue where to start looking for this one - system logs show nothing of value. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!! thanks, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 11:52, Ralph Slooten wrote: -march=athlon64 implies -msse2, all amd64 cpus have sse2 support. and some have even sse3 (E6) Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. ftracer is harmless. From man gcc: -ftracer Perform tail duplication to enlarge superblock size. This trans- formation simplifies the control flow of the function allowing other optimizations to do better job. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done an additional 5 or so installations by hand from the basic disk. I understand the processes there, I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case Tim... I concur with Neil's assessment that you should just wipe the box and start afresh, the main reason being that you should be running hardened sources and USE=-* instead of trying to do a basic install. Security related boxes such as firewalls, routers, and IDS should be a slim as possible to eliminate potential for security holes and in all cases they should be running with the hardened profile. Just my $0.02. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.1 uses LINGUAS, why?
Anyway, I do not see a localisation of a fundamental system tool to be a good idea. That's my point. Localisations are never up to date. Some day, it will break something and I would prefer future portage will NOT accept LINGUAS. Never. On Wednesday 31 May 2006 15:44, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: Hates Polish? I think including (what I assume is) a Polish translations of portage would indicate that it loves polish :p If you don't want polish then don't put 'pl' in your LINGUAS variable, if you want to be able to set 'cs' for portage than make a translation. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:04, Petr Kocmid wrote: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1_rc3-r2 [2.1_rc3-r1] USE=doc -build LINGUAS=-pl 3 kB Any good explanation why portage hates polish? I never used pl in LINGUAS, have LINGUAS=cs in make.conf all the time. And It's not just rc3-r2, I already noticed this before. I would rather expect portage to be linguas neutral. Petr -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
On Thursday, 1 June 2006 0:38, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. ftracer is harmless. From man gcc: -ftracer Perform tail duplication to enlarge superblock size. This trans- formation simplifies the control flow of the function allowing other optimizations to do better job. If it was harmless and beneficial it'd already be included in an -O? level. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done an additional 5 or so installations by hand from the basic disk. I understand the processes there, I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case Tim... I concur with Neil's assessment that you should just wipe the box and start afresh, the main reason being that you should be running hardened sources and USE=-* instead of trying to do a basic install. Security related boxes such as firewalls, routers, and IDS should be a slim as possible to eliminate potential for security holes and in all cases they should be running with the hardened profile. Just my $0.02. -Mike [Timothy A. Holmes] Mike and Neil -- Ok -- sounds good to me -- At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). This will allow me to get things working and evaluate the stability of the hardened sources in my production environment. Thanks a bunch for the input TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] module questions
Hi group, This appears at the bottom of the console when I startx: [...] (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Using vt 7 (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found Symbol drmGetClient from module /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved! The module *does* exist at the given location but when I try to modprobe it I get file not found error. Even when I give modprobe the complete path. Now, X opens OK, so I don't even know if there is a problem. The questions are, what is the difference between the *.o modules under /usr/lib/modules and the *.ko modules under /lib/modules/uname, and why can't modprobe handle them? Thanks, -MW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS for kernel config?
Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am in the process of moving to an amd64 system and I anticipate a lot of experimentation/tuning with the kernel. I was wondering if it is possible to set up CVS (or preferably Subversion) so that I would be able to back up to any previous configuration. It seems that if I just kept the .config file in cvs and checked it in and out as needed that this might work. I suggest good old RCS. Its small, simple, and easy to work with. just emerge app-text/rcs then: $ co -l .config $ vi .config $ ci -u .config The revisions is kept as delta in a single file .config,v optionally in a subdirecdory RCS if that exists, you can even have RCS be a symlink to som other location if you like. -- Christer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case It should be the case. it's not much different from doing a stage 3 install then changing USE flags etc. I've done that with no problems. What went wrong when you tried this before, or was it a case of changing too much at once so you couldn't find the source of the problem? However, Michael's point about starting afresh with a hardened setup is a good one. It sounds much safer for a security box. -- Neil Bothwick getting performance from an Amiga is like getting water from a sponge, getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone - after banging my head against the stone several times I got some blood Author of Lightwave 3D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
A friend just showed me voodoopad (http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/) and I was blown away. It's a bit like wikiwikiweb, but it's on your local computer, not through a server/browser setup. Surely such a thing must exist for Linux, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone here know? If not, perhaps it would be a fun project Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] uninstall a bunch
Hi, I emerged gnome and gdm. It installed more than 100 other dependencies. Ok. It's fine. Know I want to remove all gnome and its dependencies and come back to a light system (without gnome and gdm and its dependencies). How could I do? Is there a log file I could grep to get the list of the software installed by the last emerge call? Thank you. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case It should be the case. it's not much different from doing a stage 3 install then changing USE flags etc. I've done that with no problems. What went wrong when you tried this before, or was it a case of changing too much at once so you couldn't find the source of the problem? However, Michael's point about starting afresh with a hardened setup is a good one. It sounds much safer for a security box. -- Neil Bothwick getting performance from an Amiga is like getting water from a sponge, getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone - after banging my head against the stone several times I got some blood Author of Lightwave 3D [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Set use to USE=-* Emerge -e world That procedure with the USE flags is what killed me. What I should have done -- it now appears was to set use to blank (or comment it out) and allow it to use the base flags from the profile. But trying to recompile from base with all use flags specifically excluded is what began to break stuff TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: firefox hangs frequently...
upgrading gcc is really a pain, I have finished the revdep-rebuild process, not solved my problem, but new ones occur. seems I have to do a emerge -e world, that's so terrible and even worse, I'm not sure that works... well, I have to make firefox working firstly, so I re-compile it with debug info as your instruction --- many thanks! right as I click the save link as, gdb shows messages as below: Program received signal SIG33, Real-time event 33. [Switching to Thread -1321120848 (LWP 3849)] 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) back #0 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb7df6c5c in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 #2 0xb7e31c1e in PR_Lock () from /usr/lib/nspr/libnspr4.so.6 #3 0xb1414340 in ?? () #4 0xb7157b30 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnecko.so #5 0xb7157b30 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnecko.so #6 0xb7df5cec in pthread_mutex_lock () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) the messages mean nearly nothing to me, any clue?~ thank you for your help so far... PS: since I have to use opera now, it does not support gmail well, maybe I have replied to a wrong thread, so-- say sorry about that.. regards. daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
Found what I was looking for, and it's a very cool program. Do any of you have experience with this? http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ Hope others find this useful On Wed, 31 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend just showed me voodoopad (http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/) and I was blown away. It's a bit like wikiwikiweb, but it's on your local computer, not through a server/browser setup. Surely such a thing must exist for Linux, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone here know? If not, perhaps it would be a fun project Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
Hi, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 00:51:47 +0930 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 1 June 2006 0:38, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. ftracer is harmless. From man gcc: -ftracer Perform tail duplication to enlarge superblock size. This trans- formation simplifies the control flow of the function allowing other optimizations to do better job. If it was harmless and beneficial it'd already be included in an -O? level. Probably. And it seems to be only of interest when using -fsched2-use-superblocks or -fsched2-use-traces. The man page entry for the further (included in the latter) option says: This option is experimental, as not all machine descriptions used by GCC model the CPU closely enough to avoid unreliable results from the algorithm. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Fine Set use to USE=-* Aaargh! Emerge -e world Unnecessary, but normally harmless. That procedure with the USE flags is what killed me. Yes. Some USE flags are required, such as readline. What I should have done -- it now appears was to set use to blank (or comment it out) and allow it to use the base flags from the profile. Yes, and then remove USE flags a few at a time, with USE=-xxx -yyy -zzz and recompile to see the effect. But trying to recompile from base with all use flags specifically excluded is what began to break stuff You may have been able to recover by booting from the live CD, chrooting into the system and rebuilding with fixed USE flags, but the system may have been to hosed to allow this. -- Neil Bothwick Beware of low-flying butterflies. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] uninstall a bunch
On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:59:10 +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: I emerged gnome and gdm. It installed more than 100 other dependencies. Ok. It's fine. Know I want to remove all gnome and its dependencies and come back to a light system (without gnome and gdm and its dependencies). How could I do? emerge -C gnome - this removes the meta-package emerge --depclean --pretend - this removes all unneeded packages, such as those that were dependencies of the gnome meta-package Read the warning from depclean. You should add -gnome to USE and do 'emerge -uavDN world' before running depclean. -- Neil Bothwick Feminism: the radical notion that women are people. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xrdb woes
Hi, first: I saw your answer to your own question, but I rather answer this :-) (Besides: 2 hours is not quite the amount of time I would expect a competent answer to a very individual problem...) On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:01:58 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While the 'peripherals' icon is flashing the login hangs. I ssh into the machine remotely, and kill off the xrdb process: 'xrdb -quiet -merge /tmp/kde-james/kcminit6pdVqc.tmp' [...] Any ideas on how to track this down ths problem are appreciated. xrdb is not even installed. When xrdb is _not_ installed, what exact program are you killing? So I guess it just must be installed somewhere... Try to find out its PID (via ps) and check what /proc/PID/exe points to (it's a symlink). Then try running the command with the just found out executable from an X terminal (maybe you would have to make a backup copy of the temp file mentioned in the command string you've posted and use that later in the terminal window) and see what happens. You'll probably want to omit the -quiet flag... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] uninstall a bunch
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 17:59 +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
Hi,
I emerged gnome and gdm.
It installed more than 100 other dependencies.
To be precise, I had to install 283 softwares.
So, I did:
# grep 283 /var/log/emerge.log | grep completed
114911668: completed emerge (1 of 283) dev-libs/glib-2.10.3 to /
[...]
1149116482: completed emerge (7 of 283) virtual/xft-7.0 to /
Then :
# grep 283 /var/log/emerge.log | grep completed \
| awk '{print $8}' /root/unmerge.txt
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Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 18:29, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 00:51:47 +0930 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 1 June 2006 0:38, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. ftracer is harmless. From man gcc: -ftracer Perform tail duplication to enlarge superblock size. This trans- formation simplifies the control flow of the function allowing other optimizations to do better job. If it was harmless and beneficial it'd already be included in an -O? level. Probably. And it seems to be only of interest when using -fsched2-use-superblocks or -fsched2-use-traces. The man page entry for the further (included in the latter) option says: This option is experimental, as not all machine descriptions used by GCC model the CPU closely enough to avoid unreliable results from the algorithm. fsched2-use-traces Use -fsched2-use-superblocks algorithm when scheduling after regis- ter allocation and additionally perform code duplication in order to increase the size of superblocks using tracer pass. See -ftracer for details on trace formation. This mode should produce faster but significantly longer programs. Also without -fbranch-probabilities the traces constructed may not match the reality and hurt the performance. This only makes sense when scheduling after register allocation, i.e. with -fsched- ule-insns2 or at -O2 or higher. where does it say 'experimental'? And the entry for ftracer is above. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.1 uses LINGUAS, why?
On 5/31/06, Petr Kocmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I do not see a localisation of a fundamental system tool to be a good idea. That's my point. Localisations are never up to date. Some day, it will II think it's a great idea. Of course, the web speaks english and most systems/programs use that language, but localization turns the experience of using a software much more confortable. If you spend most of your day processing a language that's not your native one, its a relief to give your brain a break by reading something on your own language. And localization on community projects like Gentoo always worked like a charm to me. break something and I would prefer future portage will NOT accept LINGUAS. Never. I don't see how changing text into a program would break its main function. Maybe a liltte mix of languages, but that's not a real bug. You may step into some charset problems, but as long as the core of the system keeps a language as default and only the interface changes, that's not a problem. And, of course, it may gather more users, to enhance the community, make better translations and update the localization. And, let's not forget, Gentoo is about choices... You may simply use the default language. On Wednesday 31 May 2006 15:44, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: Hates Polish? I think including (what I assume is) a Polish translations of portage would indicate that it loves polish :p If you don't want polish then don't put 'pl' in your LINGUAS variable, if you want to be able to set 'cs' for portage than make a translation. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:04, Petr Kocmid wrote: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1_rc3-r2 [2.1_rc3-r1] USE=doc -build LINGUAS=-pl 3 kB Any good explanation why portage hates polish? I never used pl in LINGUAS, have LINGUAS=cs in make.conf all the time. And It's not just rc3-r2, I already noticed this before. I would rather expect portage to be linguas neutral. Petr -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: firefox hangs frequently...
On 5/31/06, fei huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (gdb) back #0 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb7df6c5c in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 Hmm, threading issues... Is /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 correct? My libpthread lives in /lib, so that looks strange to me. Is this on the x86 arch? What does equery belongs /lib/tls/libpthread* report? Do you use nptl and/or nptlonly for glibc (emerge -pv sys-libs/glibc). If not, try: echo sys-libs/glibc nptl nptlonly /etc/portage/package.use emerge -DNv world You do not need to rebuild firefox after the above. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
have a look at tomboy, sort of similar I would say. http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ A friend just showed me voodoopad (http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/) and I was blown away. It's a bit like wikiwikiweb, but it's on your local computer, not through a server/browser setup. Surely such a thing must exist for Linux, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone here know? If not, perhaps it would be a fun project Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case It should be the case. it's not much different from doing a stage 3 install then changing USE flags etc. I've done that with no problems. What went wrong when you tried this before, or was it a case of changing too much at once so you couldn't find the source of the problem? However, Michael's point about starting afresh with a hardened setup is a good one. It sounds much safer for a security box. -- Neil Bothwick getting performance from an Amiga is like getting water from a sponge, getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone - after banging my head against the stone several times I got some blood Author of Lightwave 3D [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Set use to USE=-* Emerge -e world That procedure with the USE flags is what killed me. What I should have done -- it now appears was to set use to blank (or comment it out) and allow it to use the base flags from the profile. But trying to recompile from base with all use flags specifically excluded is what began to break stuff TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 Hi, Don't just wipe out all USE-flags IIRC you'll need readline ncurses... Search mail-list archives for minimal USE flags, a year or more ago (mail was from ciaranm IIRC). HTH.Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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[gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim you have to unmerge (emerge -C pam-login) and emerge shadow as Changelog says it contains all was in pam-login andrea -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Scopri RIS il sistema di ricarica infinita. Meglio delle cartucce, meglio degli inchiostri, economico, facile da installare e da utilizzare, solo su refill.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5191d=31-5 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: sys-apps/pam-login
Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? unmerge pam-login and update shadow signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do. http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Hi Jim and all other Gentoo lovers,
This counts for me the same. Only what I didn't and still don't understand is
that when you first install Gentoo, it installs both without complaining. At
least it does that with me all the time.
Second when removing one of the two, you could face the fact that you can't
login into your system. Which would sound normal because both are more or less
responsible for your login and therefor like you say part of your system.
So I'm wondering what the experts have to say about this :-)
Cheers,
William.
On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:00:04 -0400
JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login :
I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating world dependencies . ... done!
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)
Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system?
Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim I saw it mentioned a few days ago (or yesterday or some such). I just ran into it five minutes ago, after having done emerge -e system emerge --sync emerge -p -e world I think I read the solution to be unmerging pam-login and leave it so. Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: sys-apps/pam-login
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 19:00, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? The package sys-apps/shadow now includes sys-apps/pam-login. You should remove sys-apps/pam-login and then merge sys-apps/shadow. emerge -C sys-apps/pam-login emerge --oneshot sys-apps/shadow Note: don't logout while you do this :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim Hi, Remove sys-apps/pam-login,then emerge sys-apps/shadow -av. Most probably pam-login functionality is integrated into sys-apps/shadow HTH.Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[gentoo-user] OT: US Drivers License Search
Does anyone know anything about this? http://www.license.shorturl.com/ I was wondering if it is a scam. My sister, an AOL user, sends me the AOL-Chain-Mail-Crap. I should .procmailrc her, but I would feel bad : ) Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: portage 2.1 uses LINGUAS, why?
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 17:13, Petr Kocmid wrote: Anyway, I do not see a localisation of a fundamental system tool to be a good idea. That's my point. Localisations are never up to date. Some day, it will break something and I would prefer future portage will NOT accept LINGUAS. Never. You don't *have* to use it, that choice is still up to you. You can still (en|dis)able the linguas flag per package. USE=-linguas_cs linguas_pl Which would disable your native and enable the polish translation. You can add these use flags to your /etc/portage/package.use just like you would with a normal use flag. Note: We are discussing a Release Candidate here so things might change in the future. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge world problem
hi at all, i've a problem when i try to do emerge world, i've the follow message: [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) what i've to do? remove pam-login? bye -- Roberto Zandonati GPG-Fingerprint: 577F CC47 AAD7 A5B9 12D7 F10D 89F8 3BA6 5CA8 58D5 GPG-Keynumber: 0x5CA858D5 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: US Drivers License Search
JimD wrote: Does anyone know anything about this? http://www.license.shorturl.com/ I was wondering if it is a scam. My sister, an AOL user, sends me the AOL-Chain-Mail-Crap. I should .procmailrc her, but I would feel bad : ) Jim Never mind. I just entered a fake first and last name, picked a state and city and did the search. The search always shows the same thing. A drivers license with a picture of a monkey. I hate AOL chain-mail :-) Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am quite open to using it, if someone can please send me a link. Don't restrict yourself to wikis and web-based information. The best portage and emerge manuals are exactly that - the portage and emerge manuals. $ man 5 portage $ man 1 emerge $ man 5 make.conf Once you've thoroughly read and understood all three of those, come back here. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be I am not in the least comfortable with running NON-hardened on a production box. :) ESPECIALLY for network-accessible devices. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem
Roberto Zandonati wrote: hi at all, i've a problem when i try to do emerge world, i've the follow message: [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) what i've to do? remove pam-login? bye From the forums: emerge --buildpkgonly --nodeps shadow emerge -C pam-login emerge --usepkgonly shadow It worked for me so far. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
William Meertens wrote: Second when removing one of the two, you could face the fact that you can't login into your system. Which would sound normal because both are more or less responsible for your login and therefor like you say part of your system. This happened to me last night. Fixed by booting in single-user mode and rebuilding shadow, pam, and openssh (ssh login was still broken even after rebuilding shadow and pam). I don't really understand how PAM works, so I can't say what happened exactly. For safety's sake, I'd recommend rebuilding at least those three before logging out or rebooting. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:11 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be I am not in the least comfortable with running NON-hardened on a production box. :) ESPECIALLY for network-accessible devices. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Randy: That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a production environment. Another user here in my area is working to change my mind, but at this point, unless something changes dramatically, hardened in my mind is a specialty subset for very isolated applications that are very very crash tolerant. The problem in my mind is that if the system is so unstable that it will not properly function with a major component like X, I am worried that it may prove unstable with other applications as well. It seems quite often that I see messages going past someone has had a problem with hardened and more often then not, these are fairly critical problems -- while it may be that hardened sources are fine, I have high doubts about them, and specifically their stability. I realize that this topic has the potential to very quickly become a flame fest, and I have no desire for this to happen, but at the same time, I cant risk a critical system on unstable sources either. I am open to the possibility of using them, BUT, for now it will be in parallel with sources that I KNOW work correctly. I cant risk our network to be part of an experiment. Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Ra -Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am quite open to using it, if someone can please send me a link. Don't restrict yourself to wikis and web-based information. The best portage and emerge manuals are exactly that - the portage and emerge manuals. $ man 5 portage $ man 1 emerge $ man 5 make.conf Once you've thoroughly read and understood all three of those, come back here. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Ryan - - Thanks for the links - Is that info also accessable on the web some place, since I cant print from linux based systems, and especially cant under the live CD? I will be most interested to read it, but the manpage reader is horrible to try to work from TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do.
http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict
This explains it all, only I'm still curious why even with version 6.0 I'm
still getting both installed just fine. Hardly look at the messages since
Gentoo installs while I'm dreaming. Just as nice without complaining as my
dreams are.
Only when doing an update later it starts to complain. Since Gentoo version 5.0
I'm having this on all systems. Regardless the choice of installation.
All my best,
William.
On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote:
I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating world dependencies . ... done!
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)
Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system?
Jim
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RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
[Timothy A. Holmes] Randy: That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a production environment. Another user here in my area is working to [Timothy A. Holmes] OOPS _- that should be RYAN -- SORRY -- I got fumble fingered TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found what I was looking for, and it's a very cool program. Do any of you have experience with this? http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ I've been using it for a while, since I saw it at a LUG meeting. It's handy for note taking and the like. Another such program worth looking at is x11-misc/basket - http://basket.kde.org/ -- Neil Bothwick I'm writing a book. I've got the page numbers done. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] USE flags question
Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate package? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 19:00, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time and a lot of people some bandwidth. This question was answered douzends of time... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger complete rebuild after changing CFLAGS oder USEFLAGS
* Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2006 11:55:24 +0200, Jürgen Pierau wrote: can anyone give me a quick hint, how to trigger a complete rebuild if some build settings, ie CFLAGS or USEFLAGS are changed ? emerge -aev world For a change of CFLAGS. For USE changes you only need to rebuild the affected packages with emerge -uavDN world Ok. Thanks. What does emerge system exactly do ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
