Re: [gentoo-user] I want to configure an email server

2007-05-14 Thread blackhawk
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 Hey there, thanks for the tip!  I didn't expect to find a complete
 HOWTO, as I said, but then again I've never seen a HOWTO that big.

 Question, though.  Do I need to do anything very special to use MySQL
 instead of PGSQL?
You just have to do what they say in the Howto for PgSQL for MySQL, it's
the same thing.
A sed -e 's|pgsql|mysql|ig' on this Howto might be sufficient :)


 Thanks again,

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 I advise you to take a look at
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System .
 I've used this howto to make my email server and all works fine now.
 It's composed of Postfix + Spamassassin + SQLGrey + ClamAV coupled with
 MySQL database for me or PGSQL as in the howto.

 Regards,

 Xavier Parizet
 http://www.linuxant.fr/

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 But I have no idea where to start.  Frankly, so many possibilities and
 incredibly complex setups have deterred me somewhat from embarking on
 this venture.  However, I would very much like to have my very own
 email
 server under my own domain name.

 So what I'm asking you guys for is documentation, software packages,
 recommended setups, anything you can add.  I am not looking for an all
 in one HOWTO (and don't really expect to find one with such a
 complicated process) and I am willing to RTFM when necessary.

 Thanks a lot guys.

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[gentoo-user] Getting Started

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
I am new to Gentoo, and working on getting things up and going.  I am
running an HP Pavilion with an Athlon 64 processor.  I'll build a
desktop eventually when I have the time, but for now this is it.

I am attempting to install the x86 version of Gentoo from the i686
stage3 tarball, and so far have had no luck getting the ATI video
drivers to compile.  (My reason for this is that I wish to be able to
run the current version of blender, which seems to have issues under
AMD64 at this time.)  However, if I do a networkless install, it works
fine, but there are strange issues with upgrading.  Portage has no love
for a synthesized system. :P

Anyway, I will probably post actual error messages in the near future if
I can't figure it out myself.  In the mean time, I'm wondering how many
people on the list are military or retired military living in the
pacific AOR (especially Kanto).  If you want you can respond directly on
this one. ^_^  I'm not asking to fill the list with the info! Hehe.

Also, what is the difference between the Gentoo LiveCD and the LiveDVD?
What are the advantages of the DVD?  I am considering downloading it if
there is adequate benefit.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Walker

Graham Murray wrote:

Did you select AHCI mode in the BIOS? On my motherboard (with
ICH6R/IC6RW) there is an option to set SATA mode to IDE, RAID or AHCI.
  


The item is there in the BIOS but only has one setting available - IDE. 
:( Seems my chipset is one of those that doesn't support AHCI. lspci 
reports this:



00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE 
Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) 
Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)


The motherboard is an Asus P5LD2-VM.


Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting Started

2007-05-14 Thread Vladimir Rusinov

On 5/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Also, what is the difference between the Gentoo LiveCD and the LiveDVD?
What are the advantages of the DVD?  I am considering downloading it if
there is adequate benefit.



AFAIK LiveDVD Just contains more distfiles and packages.
My suggestion is not use networkless install. Keep in sync.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remote ssh session does not reflect my keyboard inputs

2007-05-14 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 13 May 2007 23:10, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 On gentoo, bash does not read /etc/inputrc, but perhaps on ubuntu it
 does.

Correction: it DOES read it on gentoo too. Sorry for the wrong info.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: I copied a Gentoo VM and now networking doesn't work.

2007-05-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
It had nothing to do with the copying.

It's the annoying udev rules stuff, it freakin' figures out everything else in 
your system, but the MAC is static or something.
Edit this file:
 
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Change your MAC to the one that VMWare assigned the VM. 
You can find this in the .vmx file (amongst other ways) 

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 networking doesn't work.
 
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Wednesday 09 May 2007 02:55:42 Daevid Vincent wrote:
  I have a Gentoo VM that I've used for years (XP Host. 
 Workstation 5.5.3).
  Works great.
 
  I copied the .vmdk and .vmx files to a new directory 
 called LAMP. I
  edited the .vmx file changing the appropriate paths. Now 
 when I start the
  new VM, my networking fails. (I changed nothing inside the 
 linux VM).
 
  ifconfig eth0 says:
  eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
 
  Check for other devices.  udev now establishes persistent 
 network device names 
  based on MAC address (unless you add some of your own 
 rules).  It's very 
  likely that the MAC address of the virtual device changed, 
 and the new 
  device is eth1 (or higher).
 
 To original poster Daevid Vincent:
 
 I'm curious to know if Boyd's suggestion helped.  I had the same
 problem a while back.  But since I was experimenting and didn't really
 need the clone I'd made I ditched it.  Wondering now if I just needed
 to look for eth1 or higher.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] pppconfig can't find internal modem.

2007-05-14 Thread Mick
On Sunday 13 May 2007 21:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   My ADSL connection had a short outage yesterday.  I discovered, to my
 consternation, that my machine's internal modem wasn't being picked up.

Was this working before then - e.g. since the last time you compiled your 
kernel?  

In any case you would probably want to (r)emerge the driver for this modem.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Getting Started

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
Do you have any advice for making sure that the Xorg install is successful?  
Seems to always die during the compile process for the ati driver. ^^;;
 

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On 5/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Also, what is the difference between the Gentoo LiveCD and the 
LiveDVD?
What are the advantages of the DVD?  I am considering 
downloading it if 
there is adequate benefit.



AFAIK LiveDVD Just contains more distfiles and packages.
My suggestion is not use networkless install. Keep in sync.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting Started

2007-05-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Montag 14 Mai 2007 08:46 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I am new to Gentoo, and working on getting things up and going.  I am
 running an HP Pavilion with an Athlon 64 processor.  I'll build a
 desktop eventually when I have the time, but for now this is it.

 I am attempting to install the x86 version of Gentoo from the i686
 stage3 tarball, and so far have had no luck getting the ATI video
 drivers to compile.  (My reason for this is that I wish to be able to
 run the current version of blender, which seems to have issues under
 AMD64 at this time.)  However, if I do a networkless install, it works
 fine, but there are strange issues with upgrading.  Portage has no love
 for a synthesized system. :P

 Anyway, I will probably post actual error messages in the near future if
 I can't figure it out myself.  In the mean time, I'm wondering how many
 people on the list are military or retired military living in the
 pacific AOR (especially Kanto).  If you want you can respond directly on
 this one. ^_^  I'm not asking to fill the list with the info! Hehe.

 Also, what is the difference between the Gentoo LiveCD and the LiveDVD?
 What are the advantages of the DVD?  I am considering downloading it if
 there is adequate benefit.

 ---
 Ken.

Hi Ken!

As long as you've got a decent Internet connection there is no real reason for 
using the LiveDVD. I don't know how good the new 2007.0 is. 2006.1 was a real 
pain.  
However, if you want the system up and going really quick, it might be worth a 
try since you can use more precompiled packages from the DVD.

Back to your ATI issue:

At first, I'd like to make sure you've followed some good howtos.  Just take a 
look to this site if there is a guide to your laptop [1]. 
If not, you can follow this one [2].

[1] http://tuxmobil.org/hp.html
[2] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers

Regards
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[gentoo-user] Force app to use specific outgoing ip address?

2007-05-14 Thread Crayon Shin Chan
I have a gateway machine with a single NIC but several virtual IP 
addresses. I have several instances of apache running, each bound to 
listen on their own virtual IP address. All the instances of apache are 
running in proxy mode. What is happening now is that all the apache 
instances use the 'main' IP address for all outgoing connections.

What I would like is for each instance of apache to use their own virtual 
IP address for outgoing connections. Is it possible to rig iptables to 
achieve this? And how would I do this?

NB I'm open to solutions using proxies other than apache.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Norberto Bensa
Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 I have tried set all the gw in my subnet to 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.1.1.
 Is't all right?

I don't know, it depends on what's your gw's IP is. 

Let's say you have this setup:


GW: 192.168.1.1

Other PCs are: 192.168.1.2... 192.168.1.3... and so on.


On the GW you need:

echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE
(note: change ethX by the NIC your internet connection is on. If your 
cablemodem/adsl/whatever is on eth3 -for example- change ethX to eth3)


On the others PC you need to set GW to 192.168.1.1


I hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Chuanwen Wu

2007/5/14, Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 I have tried set all the gw in my subnet to 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.1.1.
 Is't all right?

I don't know, it depends on what's your gw's IP is.

Let's say you have this setup:


GW: 192.168.1.1

Other PCs are: 192.168.1.2... 192.168.1.3... and so on.


On the GW you need:

echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE
(note: change ethX by the NIC your internet connection is on. If your
cablemodem/adsl/whatever is on eth3 -for example- change ethX to eth3)


On the others PC you need to set GW to 192.168.1.1


I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Norberto


Thank you!I think i have done what you meant.
Here is the information:

/etc/conf.d/net in the server
config_eth0=( 202.114.10.134 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 202.114.10.255 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 202.114.10.129 )

config_eth1=( 192.168.1.63 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
routes_eth1=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )


/etc/conf.d/net in one PC
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

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[gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,


after my notebook disk died, I started completely afresh with 
the newest stage1 (running within some bit aged knoppix). 

I remembered installing from stage1 quite easy: edit make.conf 
etc, run bootstrap.sh and then begin to emerge all your packages. 
But this didn't work: there seem to be many version and dependency
problems. I should have wrote evrything down, I can't remember 
them all ...

For example, openssh failed because openssl was missing. And 
emerge did not make any attempt to install it. So obviously
the dependency is missing. In fact the ebuild file does not
contain any dependency on openssl.

Another critical error was the toolchain killing itself. 
After installing the new gcc for my target (stage1 comes w/ 
*i486*, I set *i686* in make.conf), it wanted the binutils for
that platform, which were missing. So I had to copy them from
*i486* to be able to at least build the binutils. 

There were a lot of other problems which may be caused by 
those I described above.


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Re: [gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:05:39PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 after my notebook disk died, I started completely afresh with 
 the newest stage1 (running within some bit aged knoppix). 

What I remember is that stage1 is no longer supported and is for
developers only. Theoretically, you can take i386, set your host to i686
and rebuild all, and you will get the same result.

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[gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Yet another error: 

While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:

Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al

There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.


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[gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yet another error: 
 
 While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
 
 Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
 
 There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
 

Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them 
(without touching the ebuild file) ?


IMHO, on normal installations (non-dev), they shouldn't be 
needed at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 What I remember is that stage1 is no longer supported and is for
 developers only. Theoretically, you can take i386, set your host 
 to i686 and rebuild all, and you will get the same result.

I had to take stage1, since the others require kernel 2.6.
kernel. But my (some bit aged) knoppix boot cd is still on 2.4.

I'm not in office now and don't have an burner available, 
otherwise I'd taken an recent gentoo install cd.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
If the tests are failing, then perhaps they are needed even more.
Also, if you are building from a stage1, you are not dealing with
non-dev builds at all.
^^;;



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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:27 PM
To: gentoo-user
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when
starting w/ stage1


* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yet another error:
 
 While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
 
 Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
 
 There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
 

Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them 
(without touching the ebuild file) ?


IMHO, on normal installations (non-dev), they shouldn't be 
needed at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Mick
On Monday 14 May 2007 13:27, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yet another error:
 
  While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
 
  Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
 
  There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.

 Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them
 (without touching the ebuild file) ?

I have not seen a --no-test flag in emerge, but don't know if there is an 
undocumented option for this, or if it can be set as an ENV variable. There 
should be no harm in trying, but first someone more knowledgeable in the 
workings of gentoo better advise.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 If the tests are failing, then perhaps they are needed even more.

No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
 are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.

If the test is optional then FEATURES=-test should skip it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
  No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
  are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.
 
 If the test is optional then FEATURES=-test should skip it.

Ah, I though is was enough, not adding test to FEATURES.
(in other words: it has to be enabled explicitly)


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[gentoo-user] why PDEPEND ?

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks


I've seen perl has some PDEPEND's, which means that these packages 
(PodParser and Test-Harness) are emerged right after perl.

Why is that necessary ? 

Shouldn't those packages requiring these two simply have them 
as DEPEND ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] why PDEPEND ?

2007-05-14 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:18 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 Hi folks
 
 
 I've seen perl has some PDEPEND's, which means that these packages 
 (PodParser and Test-Harness) are emerged right after perl.

 Why is that necessary ? 

Because depends are resolved prior to a given package and so my guess is
the above would fail if perl were not installed/updated first, therefore
they are P[OST]DEPENDs


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:14:40 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

  If the test is optional then FEATURES=-test should skip it.  
 
 Ah, I though is was enough, not adding test to FEATURES.
 (in other words: it has to be enabled explicitly)

It should but you haven't posted your emerge --info. In this case, the
test must be explicitly enabled in the ebuild, which gives you two
choices: edit the ebuild or use a more up to date installation
environment.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
If you have an active internet environment, use the knopix disk to
download an iso for one of the live CD's, such as the actual liveCD or
the minimal CD, and then burn to disk, and get the stage3 tarball.  Or,
if you are on a different machine now, use the machine you are on now to
get the ISO if you are able.

If you have enough of an internet connection to use emerge, then odds
are you can download files.


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starting w/ stage1


On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:14:40 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

  If the test is optional then FEATURES=-test should skip it.
 
 Ah, I though is was enough, not adding test to FEATURES. (in other 
 words: it has to be enabled explicitly)

It should but you haven't posted your emerge --info. In this case, the
test must be explicitly enabled in the ebuild, which gives you two
choices: edit the ebuild or use a more up to date installation
environment.


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[gentoo-user] OT - Why won't my computers use their own DNS servers?

2007-05-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On my network I have two computers, camille.espersunited.com
(70.234.122.250) and catherine.espersunited.com (70.234.122.251).  Each
of these two computers runs its own local DNS server.  They do this to
speed up internet access.; at least they used to.  Now I find that
internet access is slow and that they are trying to use each other's DNS
server, which is not what I want.

On camille:

camille ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
search espersunited.com 
nameserver 70.24.122.250
nameserver 70.234.122.251
nameserver 70.234.122.248
nameserver 192.168.1.254
domain espersunited.com

camille ~ # dig camille.espersunited.com

;  DiG 9.3.4  camille.espersunited.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54017
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;camille.espersunited.com.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
camille.espersunited.com. 10800 IN  A   70.234.122.250

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
espersunited.com.   10800   IN  NS  baby.espersunited.com.

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 70.234.122.251#53(70.234.122.251)
;; WHEN: Mon May 14 09:16:28 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 77

On catherine:

catherine ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
search espersunited.com 
nameserver 70.24.122.251
nameserver 70.234.122.250
nameserver 70.234.122.248
nameserver 192.168.1.254
domain espersunited.com
catherine ~ # dig catherine.espersunited.com

;  DiG 9.3.4  catherine.espersunited.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49177
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;catherine.espersunited.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
catherine.espersunited.com. 10800 INA   70.234.122.251

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
espersunited.com.   10800   IN  NS  baby.espersunited.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
baby.espersunited.com.  10800   IN  A   70.234.122.248

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 70.234.122.250#53(70.234.122.250)
;; WHEN: Mon May 14 09:17:06 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95

Why is it doing this?  I can post /etc/named/db.espersunited.com if you
think it would help...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why won't my computers use their own DNS servers?

2007-05-14 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 14 May 2007 16:18, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 On camille:

 camille ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 search espersunited.com
 nameserver 70.24.122.250
   

Shouldn't this be 70.234.122.250?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why won't my computers use their own DNS servers?

2007-05-14 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:18:02 -0500 Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On my network I have two computers, camille.espersunited.com
 (70.234.122.250) and catherine.espersunited.com (70.234.122.251).
 Each of these two computers runs its own local DNS server.  They do
 this to speed up internet access.; at least they used to.  Now I find
 that internet access is slow and that they are trying to use each
 other's DNS server, which is not what I want.

According to resolv.conf(5) you can by default only configure 3 (!)
name servers instead of the four you have.

Also, it doesn't make sense to configure a nameserver to return its own
host name, so I would consider your test case being invalid.

The interesting question would be which name server answers for the case
that you query some other host name (also since you said what you want
those servers to do is caching, not authoritative name services).

Since those are public IPs, I happened to positively check for the
existence of a firewall. Its configuration regarding DNS queries (UDP
_and_ -- always forgotten -- TCP port 53) would be interesting, esp.
the configured allowed IP ranges for source and destination.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why won't my computers use their own DNS servers? [SOLVED]

2007-05-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 16:58 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Monday 14 May 2007 16:18, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
  On camille:
 
  camille ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
  search espersunited.com
  nameserver 70.24.122.250

 
 Shouldn't this be 70.234.122.250?

That did it.  Thank you!  I wonder how that happened, and why I didn't
see that the addresses didn't line up?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why won't my computers use their own DNS servers?

2007-05-14 Thread Arnau Bria
On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:18:02 -0500
Michael Sullivan wrote:

 On my network I have two computers, camille.espersunited.com
 (70.234.122.250) and catherine.espersunited.com (70.234.122.251).

If IP's are correct:

 On camille:
 
 camille ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 search espersunited.com 
 nameserver 70.24.122.250 - who is this? Maybe should be 234?
 nameserver 70.234.122.251 --- catherine!
 nameserver 70.234.122.248
 nameserver 192.168.1.254
 domain espersunited.com

same thing for catherine
 
 On catherine:
 
 catherine ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 search espersunited.com 
 nameserver 70.24.122.251
 nameserver 70.234.122.250
 nameserver 70.234.122.248
 nameserver 192.168.1.254
 domain espersunited.com
 catherine ~ # dig catherine.espersunited.com

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] I want to configure an email server

2007-05-14 Thread Dan Cowsill
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Well, you guys have given me a lot of reading to do!  Thanks for all the
 pointers.  I'll probably fill you in with updates on my progress as I
will no doubt run into a few snags.

Thanks again!



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey there, thanks for the tip!  I didn't expect to find a complete
 HOWTO, as I said, but then again I've never seen a HOWTO that big.
 
 Question, though.  Do I need to do anything very special to use MySQL
 instead of PGSQL?
 You just have to do what they say in the Howto for PgSQL for MySQL, it's
 the same thing.
 A sed -e 's|pgsql|mysql|ig' on this Howto might be sufficient :)
 
 Thanks again,
 
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 I advise you to take a look at
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System .
 I've used this howto to make my email server and all works fine now.
 It's composed of Postfix + Spamassassin + SQLGrey + ClamAV coupled with
 MySQL database for me or PGSQL as in the howto.

 Regards,

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 But I have no idea where to start.  Frankly, so many possibilities and
 incredibly complex setups have deterred me somewhat from embarking on
 this venture.  However, I would very much like to have my very own
 email
 server under my own domain name.

 So what I'm asking you guys for is documentation, software packages,
 recommended setups, anything you can add.  I am not looking for an all
 in one HOWTO (and don't really expect to find one with such a
 complicated process) and I am willing to RTFM when necessary.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Mon, May 14, 2007 8:23 am, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 Thank you!I think i have done what you meant.
 Here is the information:


 /etc/conf.d/net in the server
 config_eth0=( 202.114.10.134 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 202.114.10.255 )
 routes_eth0=( default gw 202.114.10.129 )

OK


 config_eth1=( 192.168.1.63 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
 routes_eth1=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

You don't need a route here.


 /etc/conf.d/net in one PC
 config_eth0=( 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
 routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

No. GW should be 192.168.1.63, which is the IP address of your gateway.


HTH,
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[gentoo-user] A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
Is there a way to select a list option so that I can get a plain text
digest?  The regular list traffic produces way too many messages, but I
cannot read the digest version on my mail system because it sends it as
a bunch of .eml attachments, and the mail system strips them out (It is
at the server side, so I can't influence the behavior).
 
On other lists I am on, they have a choice between mime digests and
plain text digests.  Is there someone who we can make suggestions too
about the list?
 

Kenneth M. Burling Jr
 
 
 


[gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread James
 burlingk at cv63.navy.mil writes:

 Is there a way to 
 select a list option so that I can get a plain text digest? 


There is a very nice, browser based interface to this list:

www.gmane.org

you have to registers, and it chokes up a few times a year,
but, it's really cool to view/post to the list via gmane.


If you are just reading, you can (last time I looked) just
read net news


hth,

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[gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 burlingk at cv63.navy.mil writes:

 Is there a way to 
 select a list option so that I can get a plain text digest? 


 There is a very nice, browser based interface to this list:

 www.gmane.org

 you have to registers, and it chokes up a few times a year,
 but, it's really cool to view/post to the list via gmane.

 If you are just reading, you can (last time I looked) just
 read net news

You can both read and post using a news client via gmane.
[That's how this follow-up was posted.]

I gave up on normal mailing-list delivery a long time ago and
switched to gmane for 100% of the mailing lists I follow.

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[gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Grant

I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my kernel.
I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I only
enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from the
kernel at all.

Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be better
to build every single module and let the system load them as it needs
them.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 14. Mai 2007, Grant wrote:
 I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my kernel.
  I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I only
 enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from the
 kernel at all.

 Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be better
 to build every single module and let the system load them as it needs
 them.

 - Grant

well, from my point of view:

everything needed for booting: in kernel
everything needed all the time: in kernel
everything that needs a good kicking once in a while (usb, sound): modules
everything that needs parameters: modules
everything that is not needed all the time: module
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
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Hi,

 If you have an active internet environment, use the knopix disk to
 download an iso for one of the live CD's, such as the actual liveCD or
 the minimal CD, and then burn to disk, and get the stage3 tarball.  

I would have done so, if I had an burner aailavailable right now ...

If I knew that bootstrapping had become so unstable and complicated, 
I did an complete backup instead of just the configs ;-O

Last time I did an fresh install (w/ 2006.1 stage1 image) it ran
through w/o major problems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why PDEPEND ?

2007-05-14 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 14 May 2007 15:18:21 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 I've seen perl has some PDEPEND's, which means that these packages
 (PodParser and Test-Harness) are emerged right after perl.

 Why is that necessary ?

 Shouldn't those packages requiring these two simply have them
 as DEPEND ?

Obviously those packages aren't build time dependencies. So the alternative 
would be RDEPEND (run-time dependencies). PDEPEND (post dependencies) is 
chosen to avoid circular dependencies.

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[gentoo-user] fbsplash won't!

2007-05-14 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Just noticed that fbsplash is not shown on my VCs.  dmesg shows that it 
starts:

fbsplash: console 0 using theme 'emergence'
fbsplash: switched splash state to 'on' on console 0
fbsplash: console 1 using theme 'emergence'
fbsplash: switched splash state to 'on' on console 1
fbsplash: console 2 using theme 'emergence'
[snip...]

but it doesn't.

Not sure if this started after I updated to media-gfx/splashutils-1.4.1.

Anyone else noticed the same?  How do I fix it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Dale
Grant wrote:
 I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my kernel.
 I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I only
 enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from the
 kernel at all.

 Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be better
 to build every single module and let the system load them as it needs
 them.

 - Grant


I always build everything in the kernel.  The only module I have is the
nvidia driver.  Looks like this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 nvidia   4550612  12
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

I have not had any trouble kernel wise in a long time.  I guess it is
just a matter of preference.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Remote administration of a server

2007-05-14 Thread Daniel van Ham Colchete

Hello yall,

first, this is a kind of half-topic issue, but I'll be using Gentoo and
the matter is on the interest of this list.

I'll be building a Gentoo Cluster soon in a datacenter 6000 miles (9600 km)
away from me... This project has to be as cost efficient as possible. A lot
of research was made in this heading: the best cost effective solution.

Everything I'll be redundant and scalable. Somethings have three levels of
fail safeness (like my storage). So everything can fail. Every single item
on the cluster can fail and my service will still be online.

Right now I'm concerned with how I'm going to fix software problems when
they arrive. I'm thinking about a situation where I have a kernel panic or
when the Linux won't boot for any reason (incorrect kernel upgrade, hard
drive failure, etc...).

To solve this, I'm seeing 2 options right now. The first would be buying a
KVM-over-IP unit. But, a KVM-over-IP unit with the number of ports I need is
expensive, almost as expensive as the servers it will be connected.

The second option would be having another server acting as a USB Guest. This
usb-guest-server would be connected to every other server through a USB
cable and would be seen as a pen drive with a Gentoo rescue disk inside.
Them, if something goes wrong, I can activate the virtual pen drive,
remotely reboot the troubled server and it will boot the pen drive. There is
a howto about this at http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/file_storage.html. But
I can't find the necessary hardware to do this. Has anyone been able to do
anything like this?

Thinking about other options, does anyone have any other tip for me? Am I
going in the right direction? For the obvious answer: I know it's better to
be closer to the datacenter, but that's not an option for me right now and I
know I'll have a remote-hands service, but it can be very time inefficient
sometimes and I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible.

Thank you all.

Best regards,
Daniel Colchete


Re: [gentoo-user] Remote administration of a server

2007-05-14 Thread Randy Barlow
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Daniel van Ham Colchete wrote:
 Thinking about other options, does anyone have any other tip for me?

How about a robot and a USB keyboard?  Sorry, couldn't resist :)

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[gentoo-user] MSI Player P610

2007-05-14 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

I am struggeling with an MSI Player P610 with a USB interface.

When I connect my memory stick or my camera, I get something like this in my 
log file:

May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 7
May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel]   Vendor:   Model: USB FLASH DRIVE   Rev: 
1.01
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel]   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI 
SCSI revision: 00
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] SCSI device sda: 507904 512-byte hdwr sectors (260 
MB)
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: Write Protect is off
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] SCSI device sda: 507904 512-byte hdwr sectors (260 
MB)
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: Write Protect is off
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0

When connecting the MSI Player, I get this:

May 14 20:00:32 [kernel] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 6
May 14 20:00:32 [kernel] usb 1-5: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice

No SCSI device file is generated and, therefore, can not be mounted.

Any idea?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remote administration of a server

2007-05-14 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:42:45 -0300
Daniel van Ham Colchete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thinking about other options, does anyone have any other tip for me? Am I
 going in the right direction?

The two options you've mentioned are quite different. One gives console
access, the other basically cures HD fails. The latter is clearly a job
for your hosting company, I think. And there's an old, proven way for
the task console access: forget about that graphics output on that
computer and learn to trust in good ol' serial connections :-)
certainly cheaper than KVM-over-IP.

Another option would be for the servers to default to netbooting and
fall back to HD on boot. Then you were able to switch on the service
offering the netboot images on some fall-back servers on-demand. I
think this is somewhat like your USB idea. Or generally use netboot (w/
redundant servers) and forget about the HD fails alltogether (i.e.,
have some remote login program in your initrd).

All these options still won't give you the opportunity to power-cycle
your machines, which might be the only option left under some
circumstances. A hw watchdog can probably reduce the impact of that
problem a lot.

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[gentoo-user] Re: MSI Player P610

2007-05-14 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 14 May 2007, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I am struggeling with an MSI Player P610 with a USB interface.

 When I connect my memory stick or my camera, I get something like this in
 my log file:

 May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
 and address 7
 May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 May 14 20:01:01 [kernel] scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
 devices May 14 20:01:06 [kernel]   Vendor:   Model: USB FLASH DRIVE
   Rev: 1.01
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel]   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI
 SCSI revision: 00
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] SCSI device sda: 507904 512-byte hdwr sectors (260
 MB)
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: Write Protect is off
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] SCSI device sda: 507904 512-byte hdwr sectors (260
 MB)
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: Write Protect is off
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
 May 14 20:01:06 [kernel] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0

 When connecting the MSI Player, I get this:

 May 14 20:00:32 [kernel] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
 and address 6
 May 14 20:00:32 [kernel] usb 1-5: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice

 No SCSI device file is generated and, therefore, can not be mounted.

 Any idea?

Brief update: Though google and the documentation coming with the player 
didn't reveal anything about it, it looks like this beast isn't a USB storage 
device. :-(

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remote administration of a server

2007-05-14 Thread Mike Williams
On Monday 14 May 2007 19:42:45 Daniel van Ham Colchete wrote:
 To solve this, I'm seeing 2 options right now. The first would be buying a
 KVM-over-IP unit. But, a KVM-over-IP unit with the number of ports I need
 is expensive, almost as expensive as the servers it will be connected.

We use a Belkin KVM-IP box with 2 sets of ports. One set for a local 
keyboard/monitor/mouse, and one to a 16 port Belkin KVM.
The IP box can handle upto 64 KVM ports, and the KVM can daisy chain to an 
extent I don't know.
You don't say how many servers, but 64 is quite a lot.
I believe Belkin do a 4 channel IP box too.
Total cost was, I think, ~£700. To remotely manage 16 servers, peanuts.

 Thinking about other options, does anyone have any other tip for me? Am I
 going in the right direction? For the obvious answer: I know it's better to
 be closer to the datacenter, but that's not an option for me right now and
 I know I'll have a remote-hands service, but it can be very time
 inefficient sometimes and I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible.

Remotely managed PDUs?
Very very useful to be able to power cycle remotely too!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
On Mon, 14 May 2007 18:09:37 +0200
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Montag, 14. Mai 2007, Grant wrote:
  I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my
  kernel. I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I
  only enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from
  the kernel at all.
 
  Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be
  better to build every single module and let the system load them as
  it needs them.
 
  - Grant
 
 well, from my point of view:
 
 everything needed for booting: in kernel
 everything needed all the time: in kernel
 everything that needs a good kicking once in a while (usb, sound):
 modules everything that needs parameters: modules
 everything that is not needed all the time: module
I would really add:
everything not needed at all: out!

Kernel build time is also an issue - I don't wanna be watching those
messages floating around the screen forever. Of course, inheriting
the .config is a must, though it can lead to problems if you ain't too
much one of the Changelog-reading-guys.
Otherwise I'll just agree with Volker, though I keep USB in-kernel on
my laptop as it is very important to me.

Gentoo is actually all about keeping all of the stuff as minimal as
possible ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 15 May 2007 00:37:57 +0200, Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:

 Gentoo is actually all about keeping all of the stuff as minimal as
 possible ;)

Gentoo is all about doing what you want, not what other people think you
should do. It doesn't matter whether you want all modules, all in-kernel,
every module built or a compromise, it's up to you.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Q
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:49 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question
 
 
 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [about gmane.org]
  If you are just reading, you can (last time I looked) just read net 
  news
 
 You can also post through their nntp server, as I am now.  
 You have to be subscribed to the ml (I turn e-mail delivery 
 off).  The first time you post, gmane e-mails you a 
 confirmation message, and you must reply to it.
 
 This doesn't give the flat digest the OP wants, but it might 
 be enough to only see the headers in the news client and 
 download only what's wanted.
 
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My problem is that I do not often have proper internet access underway,
and I NEVER have NNTP access at all from the ship I am on.  I have to
deal with highly restrictive network policies.  Email is the only viable
option, I am just not sure if my account can handle a full mailing list
without digests.  However, the same network also makes the mime digests
almost impossible.  How do I disable mail delivery?  No matter what
commands I throw at the help server, it just sends me back a list of the
list-subscribe@ and list-unsubscribe@ email addresses.  :(

I am probably missing something obvious.



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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Dan Farrell
Greetings all.  Hope the weather in bejing is pleasant, Mr Wu.  

On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:58:34 -0300 (ART)
Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, May 14, 2007 8:23 am, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
  Thank you!I think i have done what you meant.
  Here is the information:
 
 
  /etc/conf.d/net in the server
  config_eth0=( 202.114.10.134 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  202.114.10.255 ) routes_eth0=( default gw 202.114.10.129 )
 
 OK

 
  config_eth1=( 192.168.1.63 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  192.168.1.255 ) routes_eth1=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )
 
 You don't need a route here.
More exactly, a route to the subnet 192.168.1.0/24 will automatically
be created through eth1.  A _gateway_ in this case is not necessary
because eth1 lives on that subnet.  
 
  /etc/conf.d/net in one PC
  config_eth0=( 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  192.168.1.255 ) routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )
 
 No. GW should be 192.168.1.63, which is the IP address of your
 gateway.
 HTH,
 Norberto
 
First, the firewall configuration.  Your first message said:
 The eth0 here has the real ip,and the eth1 have a subnet
 ip:192.168.1.21.
But here you show that you set it to .63, as Norberto pointed out.  I
assume that was just a typographical error in the first email. Moving
on, the default route for the firewall is probably to the outside
world, and if you can ping google.com, it works.  

Second, the client configuration.  The route for the subnet it's on
(192.168.1/24) is automatically created, as before.  The default route
is the IP of the firewall/gateway it's behind, namely 192.168.1.63 as
Norberto said.  The machine that's forwarding packets to the internet
for these hosts now provides the route to the outside world for these
hosts.

Third, you must tell your client PCs nameservers, so that they can
resolve domain names.  If you fail to do so, even though a ping of
google.com, for example, fails, a ping of its ip address
(64.233.167.99, in my case) will work.

Fourth, you must check your firewall (that is, iptables) configuration
to be sure your iptables all refer to the correct subnet.  
 iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.8.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
that wasn't right -- obviously the subnet should be your own.  

Since the firewall you're building knows all the information the hosts
need to know (subnet information, routes, etc) you may wish to set up a
rudimentary DHCP server on it, so that additional hosts can be added
without configuration by the user.  You may also wish to  impliment a
caching, recursive nameserver for enhanced efficiency.  DNSMasq can do
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

altough I missed the start of the thread ...

snip

 My problem is that I do not often have proper internet access underway,
 and I NEVER have NNTP access at all from the ship I am on.  I have to
 deal with highly restrictive network policies.  Email is the only viable
 option, I am just not sure if my account can handle a full mailing list
 without digests.  However, the same network also makes the mime digests
 almost impossible.

Are you able to do HTTP connects or UUCP callouts ? 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:37 +, James wrote:
  burlingk at cv63.navy.mil writes:
 
  Is there a way to 
  select a list option so that I can get a plain text digest? 
 
 
 There is a very nice, browser based interface to this list:
 
 www.gmane.org
 
 you have to registers,

not if you just want to read the list :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
On Mon, 14 May 2007 22:16:04 +0100
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 15 May 2007 00:37:57 +0200, Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:
 
  Gentoo is actually all about keeping all of the stuff as minimal as
  possible ;)
 
 Gentoo is all about doing what you want, not what other people think
 you should do. It doesn't matter whether you want all modules, all
 in-kernel, every module built or a compromise, it's up to you.
 
 
Well, OK, I should probably add a 'for me' next time.

Still, the guy asked about opinions - and my opinion I gave. Nothing
more: In my opinion keeping stuff simple and slim on the kernel side
means reliability and performance. This is an opinion formed by the
(admittedly limited) experience I got so far.

Regards, Aleks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant wrote:

I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my kernel.
I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I only
enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from the
kernel at all.

Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be better
to build every single module and let the system load them as it needs


A friend of mine does this for his production servers:

1/ builds the known needed things into the kernel
2/ disables loadable modules completely

This is probably not suitable for some use cases...(new raid card 
...ooops... redo kernel), but if you are deploying to known hardware it 
is ok.


Cheers

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
Thank you for all the input.

I will give the gmane page a try when I am able.  Although that is not
an optimal option, it may still be better than just unsubscribing.

Thank you very much to all those who answered my questions. :)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
I think that once my internet access becomes functional (even then it
will just be .edu, .org, .gov, and .mil sites), I will see how well the
gmane page loads for me. :)  I will use it to read the messages, and
email to post.


 -Original Message-
 From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:07 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:37 +, James wrote:
   burlingk at cv63.navy.mil writes:
  
   Is there a way to
   select a list option so that I can get a plain text digest? 
  
  
  There is a very nice, browser based interface to this list:
  
  www.gmane.org
  
  you have to registers,
 
 not if you just want to read the list :)
 
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 something that will always be useful and which never will 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question

2007-05-14 Thread burlingk
Strictly http and https, and only through Internet Explorer.  I'll give
the gmane.org site a try when the network comes online. ^_^

If I can get enough of a connection to bring the pages up, then it may
be acceptable for reading purposes.  If that is the case, then I can use
email to post.

I will try to keep my inbox clean until then. ^_^
:)



 -Original Message-
 From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:27 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question
 
 
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 altough I missed the start of the thread ...
 
 snip
 
  My problem is that I do not often have proper internet access 
  underway, and I NEVER have NNTP access at all from the ship 
 I am on.  
  I have to deal with highly restrictive network policies.  
 Email is the 
  only viable option, I am just not sure if my account can 
 handle a full 
  mailing list without digests.  However, the same network also makes 
  the mime digests almost impossible.
 
 Are you able to do HTTP connects or UUCP callouts ? 
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome / problem registering the panel with bonobo-activation-server / error code 3

2007-05-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
I've still got no gnome working and no idea how to fix this.

I joined the gnome list, but it's useless. I've posted several times, and 
nothing gets through to it! I use DynDNS so it should work
fine. The Exim list (which blocks too) works. In any event, it's so low volume 
(shocking considering how huge gnome is), I wonder
if there is more than a handful of people on it to begin with. But I digress...

This weekend, I did an emerge -au world and after two days, and like 160 
packages, and all the 'etc-update' and stuff, still no
gnome love.

rev-dep rebuild. Not even a some lube.

Then I did an emerge -aDu gnome and it compiled like 59 more packages. Guess 
what... 
Yep. Gnome still hates me and is putting it right in my pooper. Dry.

So now I'm out of ideas.
Is there a 'debug' mode or something I can see what or why whatever is crashing?
How can I be the *only* one having this issue?!

 -Original Message-
 From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:32 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Gnome / problem registering the panel 
 with bonobo-activation-server / error code 3
 
 Okay. My gnome is broken and has been for some time and I 
 can't seem to fix
 it or find any solutions on the web. I was hoping eventually 
 some emerge would fix it magically for me.
 
 When I start it (even as root), it gets to the third icon 
 (like a desktop looking one), 
 then gives me some Nautilus can't be used now, due to an
 unexpected error while attempting to register the file 
 manager view server.
 There is also another error window that says something about problem
 registering the panel with bonobo-activation-server and 
 error code is 3.
 Then I click ok and it exits. Leaving me with an empty itty-bitty
 checker-board like pattern screen and a mouse pointer. I have to hit
 CTRL+ALT+BKSP to get out of it.
 
 I've tried to re-emerge 
 
 gnome-base/libbonobo 2.16.0
 gnome-base/libbonoboui 2.16.0
 gnome-base/orbit 2.14.2
 gnome-base/nautilus 2.16.3
 
 And nothing is fixing it.
 
 I've also done a rev-dep-rebuild to no avail.
 
 Ideas?
 
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[gentoo-user] maintaining QM'ed overla

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,


now that I'm forced to maintain my own QM'ed overlay, I'm looking
for some tools making it some bit easier: 

a) if I decide to take over some package, it must be absolutely
   clear that no more ebuilds from the main tree can get in
b) I need some automatic notification on updates on the main tree 
   for those packages.

Of course I could hack up something, but perhaps there already
is some proven tool for that ?


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[gentoo-user] how to check package/installation integrity

2007-05-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,


I've seen my system misses some files from the readline package.
/var/db/pkg/... contains an good-looking entry for it.

How can I run an automatic check for such missing files ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing my kernel

2007-05-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:33:22 +1200
Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Grant wrote:
  I've been puzzling a bit lately over the best way to manage my
  kernel. I've always tried to keep it as minimal as possible, and I
  only enable things as I need them.  I also don't build modules from
  the kernel at all.
  
  Is there a better way to go?  I'm starting to think it might be
  better to build every single module and let the system load them as
  it needs
 
 A friend of mine does this for his production servers:
 
 1/ builds the known needed things into the kernel
 2/ disables loadable modules completely
 
 This is probably not suitable for some use cases...(new raid card 
 ...ooops... redo kernel), but if you are deploying to known hardware
 it is ok.
 
 Cheers
 
 Mark
But Why?  What's the benefit?  If the code isn't being used, it isn't
going to slow down the kernel is it?  And the size of the kernel is
irrelevant in my opinion -- the kernel is far from the predominant
memory consumer on even a slow system.   I think it's more likely that
you'll have a problem with your kernel configuration than your kernel
performance, and modules are the only way to add kernel support without
rebooting.  Furthermore, kernel modules have their own benefits --
increased run-time configuration, for example (as opposed to a boot
parameter). No, I agree with volker:

everything needed for booting: in kernel
everything needed all the time: in kernel
everything that needs a good kicking once in a while (usb, sound):
modules everything that needs parameters: modules
everything that is not needed all the time: module

that way, you can also build modules on-the-fly to suit your needs and
then compile them into the kernel, if desired, the next time you
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Chuanwen Wu

Thank Norberto and Dan Farrell!I think i had a misunderstand and made
some mistakes.I hope I have correct it now.

/etc/conf.d/net in the server
config_eth0=( 202.114.10.134 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 202.114.10.255 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 202.114.10.129 )

config_eth1=( 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )

/etc/conf.d/net in a PC
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

2007/5/15, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Greetings all.  Hope the weather in bejing is pleasant, Mr Wu.

On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:58:34 -0300 (ART)
Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, May 14, 2007 8:23 am, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
  Thank you!I think i have done what you meant.
  Here is the information:
 
 
  /etc/conf.d/net in the server
  config_eth0=( 202.114.10.134 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  202.114.10.255 ) routes_eth0=( default gw 202.114.10.129 )

 OK

 
  config_eth1=( 192.168.1.63 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  192.168.1.255 ) routes_eth1=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

 You don't need a route here.
More exactly, a route to the subnet 192.168.1.0/24 will automatically
be created through eth1.  A _gateway_ in this case is not necessary
because eth1 lives on that subnet.

  /etc/conf.d/net in one PC
  config_eth0=( 192.168.1.35 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd
  192.168.1.255 ) routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

 No. GW should be 192.168.1.63, which is the IP address of your
 gateway.
 HTH,
 Norberto

First, the firewall configuration.  Your first message said:
 The eth0 here has the real ip,and the eth1 have a subnet
 ip:192.168.1.21.
But here you show that you set it to .63, as Norberto pointed out.  I
assume that was just a typographical error in the first email. Moving
on, the default route for the firewall is probably to the outside
world, and if you can ping google.com, it works.

Second, the client configuration.  The route for the subnet it's on
(192.168.1/24) is automatically created, as before.  The default route
is the IP of the firewall/gateway it's behind, namely 192.168.1.63 as
Norberto said.  The machine that's forwarding packets to the internet
for these hosts now provides the route to the outside world for these
hosts.

Third, you must tell your client PCs nameservers, so that they can
resolve domain names.  If you fail to do so, even though a ping of
google.com, for example, fails, a ping of its ip address
(64.233.167.99, in my case) will work.


All my PCs have the same /etc/resove.conf file with the server.And now
the PC can't ping through 66.249.89.99(of course,the server can).



Fourth, you must check your firewall (that is, iptables) configuration
to be sure your iptables all refer to the correct subnet.
 iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.8.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
that wasn't right -- obviously the subnet should be your own.


I have already corrected it to iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -s
192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE from the first time.



Since the firewall you're building knows all the information the hosts
need to know (subnet information, routes, etc) you may wish to set up a
rudimentary DHCP server on it, so that additional hosts can be added
without configuration by the user.  You may also wish to  impliment a
caching, recursive nameserver for enhanced efficiency.  DNSMasq can do
both.

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When a PC ping 66.249.89.99,I got these information from the server:

# tcpdump -n -i eth1 net 192.168.1.0/24 and port not 22 and not arp
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on eth1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
10:01:08.214160 IP 192.168.1.35  66.249.89.99: ICMP echo request, id
35391, seq 599, length 64
10:01:09.214014 IP 192.168.1.35  66.249.89.99: ICMP echo request, id
35391, seq 600, length 64
10:01:10.213899 IP 192.168.1.35  66.249.89.99: ICMP echo request, id
35391, seq 601, length 64
10:01:11.213792 IP 192.168.1.35  66.249.89.99: ICMP echo request, id
35391, seq 602, length 64
10:01:12.213676 IP 192.168.1.35  66.249.89.99: ICMP echo request, id
35391, seq 603, length 64

5 packets captured
5 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel


And

# tcpdump -n -i eth0 net 202.114.10.134 and port not 22
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes


Does it mean that eth1(the interface in my subnet) receive the request
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to check package/installation integrity

2007-05-14 Thread Vikas Kumar
On 03:51 Tue 15 May , Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 
 I've seen my system misses some files from the readline package.
 /var/db/pkg/... contains an good-looking entry for it.
 
 How can I run an automatic check for such missing files ?
 
Have you tried,

# equery check package_name

'equery' comes with 'app-portage/gentoolkit'

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:35:38 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does it mean that eth1(the interface in my subnet) receive the request
 but don't post forward it?

Perhaps you should attach the output of iptables -t nat -L -v;
iptables -L -v; so I can see the rules... while you're at it,
edit /etc/sysctl.conf so that forwarding is enabled every time you
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables configuration problem

2007-05-14 Thread Chuanwen Wu

2007/5/15, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:35:38 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does it mean that eth1(the interface in my subnet) receive the request
 but don't post forward it?

Perhaps you should attach the output of iptables -t nat -L -v;
iptables -L -v; so I can see the rules... while you're at it,

# iptables -L -v
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 24414 packets, 3853K bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 33323 packets, 7123K bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination



# iptables -L -v -t nat
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 7546 packets, 1103K bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination

Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 340 packets, 28034 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination
   0 0 MASQUERADE  all  --  anyany 192.168.1.0/24
anywhere

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 350 packets, 28746 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination



edit /etc/sysctl.conf so that forwarding is enabled every time you
reboot, and make sure it's still enabled now.


Oh!God!My must forget to enabled forwarding after last night!
Now,the PCs in the subnet can connect internal!

By the way,do you mean to change   #net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0(default
in /etc/sysctl.conf) to net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1?

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