Re: [gentoo-user] gnome overlay?

2008-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:01:30 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

  Thanks for the help.  I'm updating rhythmbox via layman now.  Not sure
  why evolution-data-server is a dependency though.  
 
 it's required by totem-pl-parser for some reason:

Do you have the eds USE flag set?


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[gentoo-user] Can't satisfy GLSA 200801-19

2008-02-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
camille ~ # glsa-check -t all
This system is affected by the following GLSAs:
200801-19
camille ~ # glsa-check -d 200801-19
 GLSA 200801-19: 
GOffice: Multiple vulnerabilities 

Synopsis:  Multiple vulnerabilities in GOffice could result in
the
   execution of arbitrary code.
Announced on:  January 30, 2008
Last revised on:   January 30, 2008: 01

Affected package:  x11-libs/goffice
Affected archs:All
Vulnerable:0.6.1
Unaffected:=0.6.1 =~0.4.3


Related bugs:  198385

Background:GOffice is a library of document-centric objects and
   utilities based on GTK.
   
Description:   GOffice includes a copy of PCRE which is vulnerable
to
   multiple buffer overflows and memory corruptions
   vulnerabilities (GLSA 200711-30).
   
Impact:An attacker could entice a user to open specially
crafted
   documents with GOffice, which could possibly lead to
the
   execution of arbitrary code, a Denial of Service or
the
   disclosure of sensitive information.
   
Workaround:There is no known workaround at this time.
   
Resolution:All GOffice 0.4.x users should upgrade to the latest
   version:
   
   # emerge --sync
   # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose
   =x11-libs/goffice-0.4.3
   All GOffice 0.6.x users should upgrade to the latest
   version:
   
   # emerge --sync
   # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose
   =x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1

References:   
   GLSA-200711-30:
http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200711-30.xml


camille ~ # emerge -pv =x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1  USE=gnome -debug 0 kB 

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

I've emerged this several times and glsa-check still claims it needs to
be fixed.  Why?

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread reader
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2008-02-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have
 both working currently.

 I've snipped all responses but carefully read through them.  I think I
 didn't provide enough info at the outset.

 I see now that this cable modem has no ethernet address as several
 posters have suggested.

It turned out to be a simple matter of cycling the various
modem/router PC s in the right order.  Once I got the help desk it
took about 2 minutes to get things resolved.  It was setup right just
needed to recycle the Modem with router off.  

The cable modem acquires an IP address by dhcp from comcast but also
internalizes the MAC of the NIC in the PC, so if you change the MAC
(By inserting a router in between, with a different MAC in this case)
then the modem continues to try to connect to the MAC it has
internalized.   It must be rebooted to acquire the new MAC (of the
router in this case).

Once that happens the Netgear routers (either one) connect with no
problems.

 It almost certainly has an Ethernet address.  It might not,
 however, have an IP address.

As you may have guessed I meant IP address.  That is, although the
Modem connects to the PC by ethernet wire, it has no inward facing
address.  This was explained by at least two other posters. (Something
I'd failed to realize. I expected there to be an inward facing IP)

At any rate all is now well, and thanks to all for the tips and help. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you may have guessed I meant IP address.  That is, although the
 Modem connects to the PC by ethernet wire, it has no inward facing
 address.  This was explained by at least two other posters. (Something
 I'd failed to realize. I expected there to be an inward facing IP)

Many cable/DSL modems do, some don't.  Ones that act as routers
do. Ones that act as bridges _sometimes_ do, but often don't.

AFAICT, cable modems that act as bridges are becoming more rare
(DSL bridges were always more rare than cable bridges for some
reason).  Comcast has tried to replace my (rented) bridge with
a router a couple times, but I always insist that I want it
replaced with a bridge.  So far, they've done it, but I'm
afraid one of these days they aren't going to have any more of
the bridging models available.

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[gentoo-user] Imagemagick and gnome packages

2008-02-11 Thread Mick
I noticed a number of new gnome related packages dropping in all of a sudden 
as a result of the new svg USE flag in imagemagick:
=
# emerge -uptDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[nomerge  ] net-print/hplip-2.7.10  USE=X ppds 
scanner -doc -fax -minimal -parport -snmp 
[nomerge  ]  dev-python/PyQt-3.17.3  USE=-debug -doc -examples 
[nomerge  ]   x11-libs/qscintilla-2.1-r1 [1.7.1] USE=python%* 
qt4%* -debug% -doc -examples% 
[ebuild  N]dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.1  USE=qt4 1,824 kB 
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/qscintilla-2.1-r1 [1.7.1] USE=python%* 
qt4%* -debug% -doc -examples% 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.12 [2.0.0.11] 
USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=el 
en_GB -af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL 
-ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl 
-nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk 
-zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 
9,774 kB 
[nomerge  ] dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.1  USE=qt4 
[ebuild  N]  dev-python/PyQt4-4.3.3  USE=-debug -doc -examples 6,047 kB 
[ebuild U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.10.1 [1.1.10] USE=X a52 aac aalib 
alsa dts dvd flac imagemagick mad mng modplug musepack nls opengl oss real 
sdl speex theora truetype v4l vcd vidix vorbis win32codecs xcb xv xvmc 
(-altivec) -arts -debug -directfb -dxr3 -esd -fbcon -gnome -gtk -ipv6 -jack 
-libcaca -mmap -pulseaudio -samba -wavpack -xinerama 
7,264 kB 
[ebuild U ]  media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.7.9 [6.3.5.10] USE=X bzip2 jpeg 
perl png svg%* tiff truetype wmf xml 
zlib -djvu% -doc -fontconfig% -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig -jpeg2k -lcms 
-nocxx -openexr -q32 -q8 
(-mpeg%*) 7,331 kB 
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/librsvg-2.20.0  USE=zlib -debug -doc -gnome 453 
kB 
[ebuild U ] app-text/ghostscript-esp-8.15.4 [8.15.3] USE=X cups 
xml -cjk -djvu% -gtk -threads 8,580 kB 
[ebuild U ] app-admin/testdisk-6.8-r1 [6.5] USE=jpeg ntfs 
reiserfs -static 751 kB 
[ebuild U ]  sys-fs/ntfsprogs-2.0.0 [1.13.1-r1] 
USE=crypt -debug -fuse -gnome 883 kB 
[ebuild  N]   dev-libs/libconfig-1.2  494 kB 
[nomerge  ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.20.0  USE=zlib -debug -doc -gnome 
[ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.7  USE=bzip2 
python -debug -doc -gnome 0 kB 
[nomerge  ] net-print/cups-1.2.12-r4  USE=X dbus jpeg ldap nls pam png 
ppds ssl tiff -php -samba -slp 
[nomerge  ]  net-libs/gnutls-2.0.4  USE=nls zlib -doc -guile -lzo 
[ebuild U ]   dev-libs/libtasn1-1.2 [0.3.5] USE=-doc 1,476 kB 
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.23-r8  USE=-build -symlink 280 
kB 
[nomerge  ] dev-python/PyQt4-4.3.3  USE=-debug -doc -examples 
[ebuild U ]  dev-python/sip-4.7.3 [4.7.1] USE=-debug 436 kB 
[ebuild U ] sys-fs/dosfstools-2.11-r3 [2.11-r1] 0 kB 
[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.58 [1.56] 7 kB 
[nomerge  ] net-print/cups-1.2.12-r4  USE=X dbus jpeg ldap nls pam png 
ppds ssl tiff -php -samba -slp 
[ebuild U ]  app-text/libpaper-1.1.23 [1.1.21] 343 kB 

Total: 18 packages (12 upgrades, 5 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 
45,936 kB
=

Other than setting -svg for imagemagick is there anything else I could do to 
keep these additional gnome packages out?
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[gentoo-user] load too high

2008-02-11 Thread James
Hello,

One of the workstations (amd64 2gig ram) has a load that never drops below
1.0, as seen by top. Looking at a ps nothing stands out. I did notice that
'X' is at the top of the list, even when the machine is quiescent (nobody
doing anything). Suspiciaous. Clearly I have a run away or hidden process using
resources. Although all my system run kde 3.5.8 only one shows this problem.

None of my other Gentoo system suffer this fate. Any ideas on finding the
culprit(proccess)?



James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

2008-02-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 11 February 2008, Patrick Holthaus wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the reply!

  I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to
  have such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new
  key that has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

 I changed the default server to the one you use. It seems to work now.
 gpg --refresh-keys had an error with the MIT server and it works with
 yours.

 Nevertheless I have to set the trust to ultimately of each imported key in
 KGPG, right?

 Patrick

NO!  Only if you trust the guy who owns the key.  That trust can only be 
gained if you have verified (in person) that he is the owner of the 
registered email address and pgp key!  Otherwise, the whole principle of Web 
of Trust falls apart.  That's what the key exchange meetings are all about.  
Now, you can't meet everyone in person who has a pgp key, right?  But if you 
have verified that Bob is who he says he is and his key matches up to his 
email address, and Bob has gone through the same process with Fred, then by 
implication you may chose to also trust Fred and any others that Bob has 
verified.  For obvious reasons you may chose to mark Fred's key as trusted to 
a lesser degree than Bob's.

Have a look at these links for more info on this subject:
http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 February 2008, Grant wrote:

 The second guide deals with bridging and the first does not.  Should
 I be setting up bridging?  The first guide seems simpler.  Should I
 be OK with that one?  I'd hate to dig into one of them and then find
 out I should have chosen the other.

 - Grant

IMHO you should always go with routed first, then bridged if you need 
it.

Ask yourself this question: do you really need ethernet traffic to go 
through the vpn? There are cases where it could be useful, but I'm hard 
pressed to find a general case.

With a routed vpn, you work with IP addresses, just like you do on the 
internet.

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[gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
I'm hoping to install openvpn on my remote hosted server.  I have
three machines to consider:

1. remote hosted web/mail server
2. local firewall, print server
3. local laptop

I'm hoping to use the vpn in three few ways:

1. imap and smtp between my laptop and the mail server
2. ssh from my laptop to the remote server
3. cups printing from the remote server to the print server

I've been over these guides:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_OpenVPN_primer
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Road_Warriors_with_OpenVPN

It looks like there are plenty of opportunities for me to screw up so
I'm hoping somebody might be able to help when I get stuck.

The second guide deals with bridging and the first does not.  Should I
be setting up bridging?  The first guide seems simpler.  Should I be
OK with that one?  I'd hate to dig into one of them and then find out
I should have chosen the other.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Mike Mazur
Hi Grant,

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm hoping to use the vpn in three few ways:

  1. imap and smtp between my laptop and the mail server
  2. ssh from my laptop to the remote server
  3. cups printing from the remote server to the print server

I don't think you need a VPN to SSH from your laptop to the remote
server -- SSH is already encrypted.

If your laptop is always behind your local firewall, then it should be
sufficient to have an OpenVPN tunnel established between your local
firewall/print server and your remote server. This should allow you to
print.

Configuring the routes on your laptop to go through your local
firewall and VPN to the remote server should allow you to grab your
mail.

If you move around with your laptop then you'll need to establish the
VPN tunnel to your remote server anytime you need to grab your mail
from anywhere else but home (behind your local firewall).

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  IMHO you should always go with routed first, then bridged if you need
  it.

  Ask yourself this question: do you really need ethernet traffic to go
  through the vpn? There are cases where it could be useful, but I'm hard
  pressed to find a general case.

  With a routed vpn, you work with IP addresses, just like you do on the
  internet.

As Alan said, try going with routed first.

Also, think about whether you really need this. As mentioned above,
SSH doesn't need to be tunneled over a VPN. IMAP and SMTP can be
encrypted too. That leaves printing, for which you could use VPN.

Have fun!
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to hardened

2008-02-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Eric Martin writes:

 Dan Farrell wrote:
  You might consider building packages but not installing them -- I think
  could use --buildpkgonly (aka -B) to achieve this end.  If the world
  emerge with a -B flag finishes successfully, I think that means all
  packages were built and you are ready to emerge world with --usepkgonly
  (-K) without having to worry about build-time issues that could cause
  conflicting packages on the system.
 
  But what does everyone else think?

 I like it.  The only problem is it might not work in some situations
 where you need program A to compile program B (kde4 requires qt4).  I've
 never gone from a non-hardened system - hardened though so take my
 comments with a grain of salt.  This could also work on other tricky
 upgrades.

Nice idea. Maybe next time... I already had started the migration.

And screwed up. I forgot about distcc being active, so some other boxes 
helped in compiling, but they do not have the hardened profile, and thus no 
hardened gcc. So, in fact nothing was compiled on the local machine.

I emerged -e again, this time without distcc and ccache. All compiled fine, 
except for media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p24929-r1 (vf_decimate.c:26: error: 
can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm') and 
net-nntp/pan-0.132-r1, which claims to need about 300 more megabytes of 
memory to compile.

I did not reboot yet as I am not near the machine, but so far things work 
well. Mplayer is not needed on that machine anyway.


I then decided to harden my desktop PC, too. I want to get some experience 
with the hardened setup, and I want that machine to be able to act as a 
distcc server for another hardened machine which will be set up soon.

Here, also mplayer and some more packages failed.

x11-misc/xaos-3.2:
i386.c: In function `_control87':
i386.c:31: error: PIC register `bx' clobbered in `asm'
Solved by using the vanilla gcc.

x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.04:
lockward.c:59: error: syntax error before uint8_t

app-emulation/dosemu-1.3.3:
vga.c: In function `pcivga_init':
vga.c:493: error: `PCI_CLASS_DISPLAY_VGA' undeclared (first use in this 
function)

mplayer: compiles with vanilla gcc.

But most annoying is that the nvidia drivers do not seem to work. First, 
they refused to compile telling me that this would do more harm than good 
with a hardened setup. I put them into packages.unmask, now they compile 
and the nvidia module loads, but still X has no GLX, xorg.0.log 
says Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found), 
glxinfo segfaults. I guess I will try to re-compile all X stuff with the 
vanilla gcc.

Would it be possible to make these changes permanent, that is, can I tell 
portage to compile specific packages with a specific 
compiler? /etc/portage/package.compilerflavor or something?

If this makes things complicated, I think I will go back to a normal setup 
at least for my desktop machine. Thre hardened gcc will stay for distcc 
purposes (I will run two distccs on different ports, one for the hardened, 
one for the vanilla gcc), but I prefer to have a system which will run 
OpenGL.

Wonko
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Migrating Drupal websites

2008-02-11 Thread kashani

Mick wrote:
Thanks for the prefix tip!  I was thinking of letting each site to have its 
own database within mysql, but my wife wants each one separately.  As long as 
they are separable both for backups and uploads I don't mind really.  Aren't 
multiple mysql instances going to affect server performance?


	You figure out the prefix idea after inheriting a db server with 
Members, Member, 1Member, and so on. And also Logs, New_logs, etc which 
you'd need to lookup to see which site were which database. It was a 
mess. :( I even do it on my own server for databases just in case I ever 
have to add a friend or migrate my data to someone else's machine.


	Yes running multiple instances will be more overhead, but there are odd 
cases when it's useful. I'd stick with just assigning a db per site in 
your case.


	If you're using Innodb I'd also set innodb_file_per_table which will 
cause Mysql to put Innodb data files in the same dir under 
/var/lib/mysql/$db_name/ rather than using the default 
/var/lib/mysql/ibdata files. It's a bit easier to tell where your data 
is and you get better disk IO that way as well.
	IIRC per table will not apply retroactively so you'll need to dump and 
reimport any db you'd like to take advantage of it.


kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock issue

2008-02-11 Thread William Kenworthy
Sounds like you have not set the timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock properly.
It defaults to the word Factory

BillK


On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 16:38 +0100, Amar Cosic wrote:
 Hello all
 
 I just upgraded my kenel to 2.6.23-r8 and everything seems to be
 OK.Only issue I have is clock.Its +1 hour what it should be. I have
 this issue before and during boot there was some error that cant
 setup clock from /etc/conf.d/clock , you will have to set it up
 manualy .Unfortunetly I only have ssh acces to my machine and cant
 see exact error.In /etc/conf.d/clock I have local set up. Bios time
 is also what it should be. Before I build something in kernel and
 everything was fine. I just cant remember what was it :/ . Any help ?
 Thanks
 
 
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +38761240095
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[gentoo-user] Re: installation of cross compiler binary

2008-02-11 Thread James
Suma Sharma Suma.Sharma at kpitcummins.com writes:


 Hi
 Please give me the procedure to install the cross-compiler
 sh4-unknown-linux-gnu toolchain available on
 http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/cross-x86/ 

Your best resource is the newly
revised:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/

If you join the gentoo-embedded, your sure to find other
embedded folks woking on this architecture.

hth,

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers failing to install because kernel tree not found

2008-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 February 2008, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:
 I wonder what's happening...Is there something

   that I could have missed?
 
  You forgot to reboot to run the new kernel
 

  I did reboot...more than once. Made sure uname -a corresponded to
 the kernel in /boot/ and to the symlink in /usr/src/

In that case you seem to have done everything you should have done.

Do the alsa drivers build correctly? If so, it would seem you have 
tripped over a bug and should report it at b.g.o.

Can't for the life of me think how such a bug would happen though, but 
still, should be reported :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

2008-02-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 11 February 2008, Patrick Holthaus wrote:
 Hey there!

 I wonder why Kmail does not import any gpg keys. For example on this list,

 many people sign their messages. But Kmail tells me something like this:
  Message was signed on xxx with unknown key xxx.
  The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
  Status: No public key to verify the signature

 OpenPGP is selected in Crypto Backends with default keyserver
 http://pgp.mit.edu
 Automatically import keys and certificates is also selected.

I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to have 
such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new key that 
has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

KGpg has a 'Refresh keys from server' selection in the menu that will do 
exactly that when you're on line, or bring back an error if a connection 
cannot be established (e.g. because you are off-line, the server does not 
accept connections, or the particular keys are not published on that server).  
Ditto if you run:

$ gpg --refresh-keys

HTH.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers failing to install because kernel tree not found

2008-02-11 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
 -Original Message-
 From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:32 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers failing to install because
 kernel tree not found
 
 On Monday 11 February 2008, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:
  I recently read an article at planet.gentoo.org about a 2 serious
  bugs in the kernel that could lead to someone crashing or rooting a
  system with linux kernels prior to gentoo-sources-2.6.23-r2. So
being
  the paranoid one that I am, I unmasked this ebuild and installed it.
  I performed a `make oldconfig` and everything went well. I expected
  Alsa-drivers and nvidia-drivers to be broken after the upgrade of
the
  kernel version. I symbolically linked linux to the new 2.6.24-r2
  kernel source tree. Then, I proceed to re-emerge nvidia-drivers and
  it states that it, for some odd reason, it cannot find the kernel
  source. Moreover, it cannot even ascertain which system my kernel is
  built for i686, Kryptonite 8 or K8 (Athlon). I tried changing
  versions of the nvidia-drivers just incase the current stable one
was
  not compatible with the latest gentoo-sources package and the
problem
  remained the same. I wonder what's happening...Is there something
  that I could have missed?
 
 You forgot to reboot to run the new kernel
 
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 I did reboot...more than once. Made sure uname -a corresponded to the
kernel in /boot/ and to the symlink in /usr/src/
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT again..] Technical networking question about changing GW

2008-02-11 Thread deface
FF will use whatever your conn is set to. as far as logging in thats  
cookie based (normally) so the browser should just resume session once  
the network is backup ( ie - /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart)



On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I happen to be in a situation where I have both a DSL and CABLE
connection to internet up for the time being... (Until the DSL
contract month runs out).

It affords a nifty opportunity to do some experiments.  Of course I
tested the speeds of both and it varies between 200 and 500 % faster
on the Cable connection.  (Nice).

At first I used single machines connected independently to the
respective IPs for testing, but it slowly dawned on me that I could
hook everything up on the lan, to the same subnet and then just reset
the GateWay target on individual machines as needed, for any of 6
machines.

So currently I have two internet outlets and two gateway routers on
192.168.0.0/24

Here's the technical part:
Assume I have loaded a web page that downloads a video to my cache as
it plays.  Assume further there are several of these to be played one
by one.

After playing one, if I reset my GW (and I have also rest
/etc/resolv.conf to use that gw address for dns [probably not totally
necessary]).  Followed by /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart.

Will the browser, which has not been restarted, now use the new
gateway when I run the next link (or for testing, run the same link
again), or will it continue on the same route (which is still
available), that is, will the browser (firefox) continue using the
original GW until the browser itself is restarted?

I know I could track all this with tcpdump but it gets sort of
cumbersome unless you've memorized the necessary commands to filter
output down to something more usable.  I usually get so tangled up
with tcpdump I spend more time on it than the project at hand.  I
don't use it very frequently so inevitably spend gobs of time at
`man tcpdump' instead of tending to what I started to do.

Why I ask is that the site I'm doing this on requires me to login and
then relocate the stuff I want to see if I have to restart the
browser.

I wanted to try to gauge if there was much of a noticeable difference
with the two IP connections.  And it would be handy to just step
through the links changine the GW intermittently.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers failing to install because kernel tree not found

2008-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 February 2008, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:
 I recently read an article at planet.gentoo.org about a 2 serious
 bugs in the kernel that could lead to someone crashing or rooting a
 system with linux kernels prior to gentoo-sources-2.6.23-r2. So being
 the paranoid one that I am, I unmasked this ebuild and installed it.
 I performed a `make oldconfig` and everything went well. I expected
 Alsa-drivers and nvidia-drivers to be broken after the upgrade of the
 kernel version. I symbolically linked linux to the new 2.6.24-r2
 kernel source tree. Then, I proceed to re-emerge nvidia-drivers and
 it states that it, for some odd reason, it cannot find the kernel
 source. Moreover, it cannot even ascertain which system my kernel is
 built for i686, Kryptonite 8 or K8 (Athlon). I tried changing
 versions of the nvidia-drivers just incase the current stable one was
 not compatible with the latest gentoo-sources package and the problem
 remained the same. I wonder what's happening...Is there something
 that I could have missed?

You forgot to reboot to run the new kernel

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
   I'm hoping to use the vpn in three few ways:
 
   1. imap and smtp between my laptop and the mail server
   2. ssh from my laptop to the remote server
   3. cups printing from the remote server to the print server

 I don't think you need a VPN to SSH from your laptop to the remote
 server -- SSH is already encrypted.

For sure, but it seems like running SSH inside a VPN is better for
security than running SSH on a non-standard port or even port
knocking.  If I need to set up a VPN for printing, shouldn't I use it
for other stuff too?  Maybe not, I have yet to actually use a VPN so
please correct me if I'm wrong.

 If your laptop is always behind your local firewall, then it should be
 sufficient to have an OpenVPN tunnel established between your local
 firewall/print server and your remote server. This should allow you to
 print.

 Configuring the routes on your laptop to go through your local
 firewall and VPN to the remote server should allow you to grab your
 mail.

 If you move around with your laptop then you'll need to establish the
 VPN tunnel to your remote server anytime you need to grab your mail
 from anywhere else but home (behind your local firewall).

Ah, tunnels, OK.  I need to think in terms of tunnels.  I'll
definitely be moving around and won't be behind my local firewall too
much of the time.  Can I set up the openvpn server on my remote system
and keep a tunnel open between it and the firewall/print server for
printing, and also initiate a tunnel between the laptop and the remote
system whenever I need to mail or SSH?  Does that sound like a good
plan?

- Grant


   IMHO you should always go with routed first, then bridged if you need
   it.
 
   Ask yourself this question: do you really need ethernet traffic to go
   through the vpn? There are cases where it could be useful, but I'm hard
   pressed to find a general case.
 
   With a routed vpn, you work with IP addresses, just like you do on the
   internet.

 As Alan said, try going with routed first.

 Also, think about whether you really need this. As mentioned above,
 SSH doesn't need to be tunneled over a VPN. IMAP and SMTP can be
 encrypted too. That leaves printing, for which you could use VPN.

 Have fun!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
I still can't send mail though, with or without authentication.
I get this when port scanning with nmap:
   
25/tcp   filtered smtp
   
Does that mean my host is blocking the smtp port?
  
   It's possible.  Or, perhaps you're behind a firewall without that
   port open?
 
  My local network firewall here?  All outgoing connections on this
  firewall are accepted.
 
   Many ISPs do block 25.  send me an IP if you want me to map from
   here. Otherwise, I'm sure if it looks closed, and you have it open
   on your end, it's got to be an ISP blockage.
 
  When I nmap my remote server I get these filtered results:
 
  25/tcp   filtered smtp
  130/tcp  filtered cisco-fna
  131/tcp  filtered cisco-tna
  132/tcp  filtered cisco-sys
  133/tcp  filtered statsrv
  134/tcp  filtered ingres-net
  135/tcp  filtered msrpc
  136/tcp  filtered profile
  137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns
  138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm
  139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
  445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
  3128/tcp filtered squid-http
  /tcp filtered krb524
  6881/tcp filtered bittorent-tracker
  6969/tcp filtered acmsoda
 
  So that all must be filtered by my ISP (Cox)?

 Ouch, that's a cruel list.  Turning of torrents just goes to show the
 massive misunderstanding of their nature and use.

   I recommend you use 587 (right?) the smtp submission port, with sasl
   authentication, and ssl if possible.
 
  What about your openvpn suggestion?  That would get around this
  problem right?  Plus it's a generally good practice?

 Either is good; however you are going to need a different MX host for
 your mail I'm afraid.  Since hosts can't connect to 25 they can't send
 mail directly to you.  COX probably has provided an outgoing relay
 host, but didn't expect their customers to be receiving their own mail.

I'm thinking I may not have explained this properly.  My local ISP is
Cox and I get the above list of filtered ports when port scanning my
remote machine which is hosted halfway across the country.  Cox can't
prevent me from scanning the SMTP port on my remote machine right?  My
host must be filtering the ports?

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have
 both working currently.

 I've snipped all responses but carefully read through them.  I think I
 didn't provide enough info at the outset.

 I see now that this cable modem has no ethernet address as several
 posters have suggested.

It almost certainly has an Ethernet address.  It might not,
however, have an IP address.

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[gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers failing to install because kernel tree not found

2008-02-11 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
I recently read an article at planet.gentoo.org about a 2 serious bugs
in the kernel that could lead to someone crashing or rooting a system
with linux kernels prior to gentoo-sources-2.6.23-r2. So being the
paranoid one that I am, I unmasked this ebuild and installed it. I
performed a `make oldconfig` and everything went well. I expected
Alsa-drivers and nvidia-drivers to be broken after the upgrade of the
kernel version. I symbolically linked linux to the new 2.6.24-r2
kernel source tree. Then, I proceed to re-emerge nvidia-drivers and it
states that it, for some odd reason, it cannot find the kernel source.
Moreover, it cannot even ascertain which system my kernel is built for
i686, Kryptonite 8 or K8 (Athlon). I tried changing versions of the
nvidia-drivers just incase the current stable one was not compatible
with the latest gentoo-sources package and the problem remained the
same. I wonder what's happening...Is there something that I could have
missed?
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread reader
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The cable modem acquires an IP address by dhcp from comcast but also
 internalizes the MAC of the NIC in the PC, so if you change the MAC
 (By inserting a router in between, with a different MAC in this case)
 then the modem continues to try to connect to the MAC it has
 internalized.   It must be rebooted to acquire the new MAC (of the
 router in this case).

 He, he, that's what I told ya!  Spoof (clone) the IP address on the router 
 and 
 you'd be good to go.  On the other hand if you power cycle the devices in the 
 right order as Dale told you, you'll also get to the same point.

Yes you did, and like a bozo I let it fly right over my head.  But
taken together, all the input on this has cleared a number of things
up for me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:02:01 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I still can't send mail though, with or without authentication.
   I get this when port scanning with nmap:
  
   25/tcp   filtered smtp
  
   Does that mean my host is blocking the smtp port?
 
  It's possible.  Or, perhaps you're behind a firewall without that
  port open?
 
 My local network firewall here?  All outgoing connections on this
 firewall are accepted.
 
  Many ISPs do block 25.  send me an IP if you want me to map from
  here. Otherwise, I'm sure if it looks closed, and you have it open
  on your end, it's got to be an ISP blockage.
 
 When I nmap my remote server I get these filtered results:
 
 25/tcp   filtered smtp
 130/tcp  filtered cisco-fna
 131/tcp  filtered cisco-tna
 132/tcp  filtered cisco-sys
 133/tcp  filtered statsrv
 134/tcp  filtered ingres-net
 135/tcp  filtered msrpc
 136/tcp  filtered profile
 137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns
 138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm
 139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
 445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
 3128/tcp filtered squid-http
 /tcp filtered krb524
 6881/tcp filtered bittorent-tracker
 6969/tcp filtered acmsoda
 
 So that all must be filtered by my ISP (Cox)?

Ouch, that's a cruel list.  Turning of torrents just goes to show the
massive misunderstanding of their nature and use.  

  I recommend you use 587 (right?) the smtp submission port, with sasl
  authentication, and ssl if possible.
 
 What about your openvpn suggestion?  That would get around this
 problem right?  Plus it's a generally good practice?

Either is good; however you are going to need a different MX host for
your mail I'm afraid.  Since hosts can't connect to 25 they can't send
mail directly to you.  COX probably has provided an outgoing relay
host, but didn't expect their customers to be receiving their own mail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
  So I would set up openvpn on my remote server and connect to it from:

 here's a few ideas about the subject, some options to think about.

  1. my local print server for printing

 Look into routed vpn networks.  If I were in your case I would probably
 set up a VPN server on (one of) my firewall(s) and then either
 route/allow :641 traffic to the remote print server through the VPN or
 simply redirect :641 connections through the VPN, just like port
 forwarding for NATed servers behind firewalls.  in this configuration,
 the remote print server is really a VPN client rather than a server.

That sounds good.

  2. my laptop for ssh and imap

 I like to allow myself, with my laptop, to connect to my SOHO-sized
 server setup through a VPN.  To this end I tell the gateways on select
 subnets to route throught to the VPN, and tell the VPN server to route
 to those subnets' gateways.  That way I can configure any computer
 (through the vpn, of course) without having to worry about opening it
 to external connections.  If you wanted to make the VPN transparent,
 you could NAT the VPN traffic instead, and make it look like it came
 from the VPN server itself.

Can't say I understand this but I have some reading to do about VPN.

 I cringe at the idea of having to use a VPN for imap, however.

Why?  Would you say the same of using it for SMTP?

  Could I also only allow access to my website's admin pages through
  openvpn?

 You could, but it might be a little tricky, depending on your setup.
 If it were my goal, I would probably put the server pages in a
 directory and control access to that directory to only VPN addresses
 (Again, this assumes a routed vpn). Or you could put it on a different
 server entirely.

 However, I would do no such thing.  I would want to use an entirely
 different access scheme for website admin, using a user login to
 perhaps an ssl protected webpage, or if I were really concerned, HTTP
 authentication.  . I would not want my web admins, who likely enjoy the
 ease with which they can manipulate their web pages, to be allowed on
 the VPN, and wouldn't want to set it up on their computers or worry
 about them getting viruses and the like.  It's hard for a virus to
 transmit in a meaningful fashion over FTP and access to webpages, but
 trojans on a VPN client give the trojan controller the same access to
 the VPN -- and a copy of the client's certificates.  I am not quick to
 pass out trusted certs for my vpn.

I was thinking authentication + VPN, but maybe that's overkill.  I
kinda like the idea of everything non-public going through the VPN.
Nobody should be in there but me so there's no trust problem.  Is that
too much?

There are only three machines involved here:

1. remote web/mail server, print client
2. local firewall/router/print server
3. local web/mail/print client

I think it would make sense to make machine #2 the VPN server, but it
is not nearly as reliable as machine #1 in terms of the internet
connection and the hardware (machine #2 is getting old).  I would hate
to be out of town and lose access to all email services because
machine #2 goes down.  Machine #1 basically never goes down.  Could I
make #1 the VPN server to maximize reliability and have everything
work the way I want it to?

- Grant


 In short, better uses of the VPN in this case would probalby be remote
 access to the corp. network from your laptop and secure access to
 remote print servers from whatever the number of hosts.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
  I still can't send mail though, with or without authentication.  I get
  this when port scanning with nmap:
 
  25/tcp   filtered smtp
 
  Does that mean my host is blocking the smtp port?

 It's possible.  Or, perhaps you're behind a firewall without that port
 open?

My local network firewall here?  All outgoing connections on this
firewall are accepted.

 Many ISPs do block 25.  send me an IP if you want me to map from here.
 Otherwise, I'm sure if it looks closed, and you have it open on your
 end, it's got to be an ISP blockage.

When I nmap my remote server I get these filtered results:

25/tcp   filtered smtp
130/tcp  filtered cisco-fna
131/tcp  filtered cisco-tna
132/tcp  filtered cisco-sys
133/tcp  filtered statsrv
134/tcp  filtered ingres-net
135/tcp  filtered msrpc
136/tcp  filtered profile
137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns
138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm
139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
3128/tcp filtered squid-http
/tcp filtered krb524
6881/tcp filtered bittorent-tracker
6969/tcp filtered acmsoda

So that all must be filtered by my ISP (Cox)?

 I recommend you use 587 (right?) the smtp submission port, with sasl
 authentication, and ssl if possible.

What about your openvpn suggestion?  That would get around this
problem right?  Plus it's a generally good practice?

Thank you very much for all your help, and I'm going to get back to
that other thread now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't satisfy GLSA 200801-19

2008-02-11 Thread paulcol
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:24:41AM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 camille ~ # glsa-check -t all
 This system is affected by the following GLSAs:
 200801-19
 camille ~ # glsa-check -d 200801-19
  GLSA 200801-19: 
 GOffice: Multiple vulnerabilities 
 
 Synopsis:  Multiple vulnerabilities in GOffice could result in
 the
execution of arbitrary code.
 Announced on:  January 30, 2008
 Last revised on:   January 30, 2008: 01
 
 Affected package:  x11-libs/goffice
 Affected archs:All
 Vulnerable:0.6.1
 Unaffected:=0.6.1 =~0.4.3
 
 
 
 camille ~ # emerge -pv =x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1  USE=gnome -debug 0 kB 
 
 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 I've emerged this several times and glsa-check still claims it needs to
 be fixed.  Why?
 

I have had a similar issue with a Python GLSA. Have you checked to see
if you have multiple versions installed (in slots)?

Try 'emerge --unmerge --pretend goffice' and see if it offers to unmerge
multiple versions. You may simply need to unmerge the vulnerable version
to sort things out.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 11 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The cable modem acquires an IP address by dhcp from comcast but also
 internalizes the MAC of the NIC in the PC, so if you change the MAC
 (By inserting a router in between, with a different MAC in this case)
 then the modem continues to try to connect to the MAC it has
 internalized.   It must be rebooted to acquire the new MAC (of the
 router in this case).

He, he, that's what I told ya!  Spoof (clone) the IP address on the router and 
you'd be good to go.  On the other hand if you power cycle the devices in the 
right order as Dale told you, you'll also get to the same point.

 Once that happens the Netgear routers (either one) connect with no
 problems.

  It almost certainly has an Ethernet address.  It might not,
  however, have an IP address.

 As you may have guessed I meant IP address.  That is, although the
 Modem connects to the PC by ethernet wire, it has no inward facing
 address.  This was explained by at least two other posters. (Something
 I'd failed to realize. I expected there to be an inward facing IP)

Quite often there *is* a static LAN IP address for the modem, which can be 
used to connect to it for diagnostic purposes.  Of course if the modem has 
only one ethernet port then you have to disconnect the router from it and 
connect your computer directly, after you set up the same IP subdomain using 
ifconfig.  A mate of mine has a Comcast router (probably different to yours) 
I'll ask how he got in and let you know.

 At any rate all is now well, and thanks to all for the tips and help.

Glad it worked out for you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Migrating Drupal websites

2008-02-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 11 February 2008, kashani wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  I am not quite sure how best to setup a local Drupal development server. 
  This is only for developing the websites, which when ready for publishing
  will be migrated to the hosting server.
 
  Still at the planning stage with all this, I want to keep each website
  separate.  So I was thinking of having separate MySQL users, each with
  their own MySQL database.  Also, I am not sure where to save (physically)
  each database.  Is it prudent to keep them separately under the
  respective virtual host domainname fs (/var/www/domainname), or should
  I leave these under the default /var/lib/mysql/,  or where ever they are
  normally stored?  Haven't looked into tablespaces yet.
 
  For the sake of avoiding a major domestic, I want to make sure that
  migration to the hosting server will happen without any glitches, or
  worse having to redesign the website from scratch!  What's a clever way
  of going about this?

   Are you going to be running multiple instances of Mysql or just letting
 each site have it's own db within Mysql? Most of the time people do that
 later and if that is the case Mysql will store each db in it's own dir
 under /var/lib/mysql/. I do recommend using a customer prefix for
 databases. Some thing like acme_drupal, sears_drupal, etc which will
 make it much simpler to remember what db is for what.

   You'll need to work out your release system. I'm not sure what tools
 drupal offers if any. Have you looked through their docs?

Thanks for the prefix tip!  I was thinking of letting each site to have its 
own database within mysql, but my wife wants each one separately.  As long as 
they are separable both for backups and uploads I don't mind really.  Aren't 
multiple mysql instances going to affect server performance?

I thought that I had gone through the docs but it seems that I missed a whole 
category under HOWTOs which explains all that is hopefully needed.

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[gentoo-user] ifconfig after upgrade to 2.6.24-r2

2008-02-11 Thread Alexey Vlasov
Hi,

After kernel renewing to 2.6.24-r1, ifconfig doesn't show alias' on
interfaces.


# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:04:23:DE:56:38
  inet addr:111.222.111.222  Bcast:111.222.111.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:138264206 errors:0 dropped:677 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:132035071 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:98025249910 (93484.1 Mb)  TX bytes:90219726063
(86040.2 Mb)
  Base address:0x2020 Memory:b882-b884

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:31307042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:31307042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:54799494113 (52260.8 Mb)  TX bytes:54799494113
(52260.8 Mb)

# cat /etc/conf.d/net

config_eth0=( 111.222.111.222 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 111.222.111.255
  10.0.2.3 netmask 255.255.0.0 brd 10.0.255.255 )

routes_eth0=( default gw 111.222.111.1 )

dns_servers_eth0=111.222.111.181 111.222.111.270
dns_domain_eth0=mydomain.hu

config_lo=( 111.222.111.223/32
111.222.111.224/32 )


# emerge -pv gentoo-sources

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r1  USE=-build
-symlink* 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Gentoo 2007.0, x86_64.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock issue

2008-02-11 Thread Amar Cosic
No , timezone is Europe/Sarajevo as it should be



On Feb 11, 2008 10:48 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sounds like you have not set the timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock properly.
 It defaults to the word Factory

 BillK


 On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 16:38 +0100, Amar Cosic wrote:
  Hello all
 
  I just upgraded my kenel to 2.6.23-r8 and everything seems to be
  OK.Only issue I have is clock.Its +1 hour what it should be. I have
  this issue before and during boot there was some error that cant
  setup clock from /etc/conf.d/clock , you will have to set it up
  manualy .Unfortunetly I only have ssh acces to my machine and cant
  see exact error.In /etc/conf.d/clock I have local set up. Bios time
  is also what it should be. Before I build something in kernel and
  everything was fine. I just cant remember what was it :/ . Any help ?
  Thanks
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread W.Kenworthy
I do this with my work printer - the printer is locked down to a local
network - I can print from locked out offices/labs anywhere (and even
from home, picking up the printouts when I arrive - convenient!)

I also transfer sometimes large files (using scp) and run ssh sessions
and imap/smtp mail all through the same tunnel(s) - I actually use two
in series with a convenient host in between to get around some local
routing issues.  All can be transparent and just work.  scp can
sometimes be a pain with slow speeds but its dependent on network
conditions external to the tunnel - i.e., some external conditions cause
interactions that affect packet sizes/latency within the tunnel - doesnt
happen often though.

Routing is often an issue (particularly to  networks a few hops away on
the inside) - ospf (quagga) was the solution, though RIP is probably
easier/better for this

The downside - gentoos openvpn and networking design is ok for simple
setups, but has to be overidden when getting complex.  Can be fragile
when design changes are taking place - breaks when you least expect it
like when they introduced the bind flag into the init.d script (gr)

Note that you need sympathetic or pliable IT staff if its a workplace -
helps to have them onside if you are going to bypass their security
policies for your own benefit!

BillK


On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 19:44 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:00:49 -0800
 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   You can print from your laptop to your printer at home while
   overseas, for example.  
 
 Sounds very convenient ; ) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] load too high

2008-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 February 2008, James wrote:
 Hello,

 One of the workstations (amd64 2gig ram) has a load that never drops
 below 1.0, as seen by top. Looking at a ps nothing stands out. I did
 notice that 'X' is at the top of the list, even when the machine is
 quiescent (nobody doing anything). Suspiciaous. Clearly I have a run
 away or hidden process using resources. Although all my system run
 kde 3.5.8 only one shows this problem.

 None of my other Gentoo system suffer this fate. Any ideas on finding
 the culprit(proccess)?

First thing to understand is exactly what the system load is. Maybe you 
already know this, but I'll post it anyway for the benefit of everyone 
else reading.

Load is defined as the number of processes waiting for cpu time averaged 
over a certain time period. top and uptime measure this in three 
periods - 1 minute, 5 minutes and 15 minutes. A process can be waiting 
for cpu time because it is blocked - waiting for some I/O to 
complete. Therefore it's easy to get a high load and low cpu 
utilization. I find this in fact to be the most common reason (!)

vmstat is your friend here. It's all in the man page, so use it and 
narrow down the process that's blocking. Maybe you have a threading 
race condition or similar.

Also look into a hardware difference between this machine and the 
others, and differences in the kernel config and loaded modules.

If all this reveals nothing, then maybe you do have a suspicious 
problem. In which case, post back real quick :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't satisfy GLSA 200801-19 [SOLVED]

2008-02-11 Thread Michael Sullivan

On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 09:57 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:24:41AM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  camille ~ # glsa-check -t all
  This system is affected by the following GLSAs:
  200801-19
  camille ~ # glsa-check -d 200801-19
   GLSA 200801-19: 
  GOffice: Multiple vulnerabilities 
  
  Synopsis:  Multiple vulnerabilities in GOffice could result in
  the
 execution of arbitrary code.
  Announced on:  January 30, 2008
  Last revised on:   January 30, 2008: 01
  
  Affected package:  x11-libs/goffice
  Affected archs:All
  Vulnerable:0.6.1
  Unaffected:=0.6.1 =~0.4.3
  
 
 
  camille ~ # emerge -pv =x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/goffice-0.6.1  USE=gnome -debug 0 kB 
  
  Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
  
  I've emerged this several times and glsa-check still claims it needs to
  be fixed.  Why?
  
 
 I have had a similar issue with a Python GLSA. Have you checked to see
 if you have multiple versions installed (in slots)?
 
 Try 'emerge --unmerge --pretend goffice' and see if it offers to unmerge
 multiple versions. You may simply need to unmerge the vulnerable version
 to sort things out.

That fixed it.  There was a previous version (0.2.0 or something like
that); I unmerged it and did a glsa-check -t all and it was gone...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-12, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been waiting and waiting and waiting forever for DSL to
 come to my neighborhood just so that I can switch to a decent
 provider and rid myself of this nonsense.

 Don't assume DSL will be better.  They often block ports too
 (as you said, it's well within their service agreement to do
 so, but I still think it sucks).  

At least 'round here you have far more ISP choices with DSL.
With cable all you get is a choice between 2-3 of the national
send us your money and shut up ISPs.  With DSL you can pick
from at least a dozen and a couple of them are top notch local
firms run by geeks for geeks.

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  at   FRANK SINATRA or his
   visi.comCHILDREN.

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Re: [gentoo-user] load too high

2008-02-11 Thread Miguel Peña Gomez


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El lun, 11-02-2008 a las 19:49 +, James escribió:
 Hello,
 
 One of the workstations (amd64 2gig ram) has a load that never drops below
 1.0, as seen by top. Looking at a ps nothing stands out. I did notice that
 'X' is at the top of the list, even when the machine is quiescent (nobody
 doing anything). Suspiciaous. Clearly I have a run away or hidden process 
 using
 resources. Although all my system run kde 3.5.8 only one shows this problem.
 
 None of my other Gentoo system suffer this fate. Any ideas on finding the
 culprit(proccess)?
 
 
 
 James
 
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread kashani

Grant wrote:

I'm thinking I may not have explained this properly.  My local ISP is
Cox and I get the above list of filtered ports when port scanning my
remote machine which is hosted halfway across the country.  Cox can't
prevent me from scanning the SMTP port on my remote machine right?  My
host must be filtering the ports?


	It's fairly standard practice on large mostly residential user ISPs to 
filter outgoing port 25 traffic to any IP, but the local SMTP servers. 
This stops a fair amount of spam, but can make troubleshooting complicated.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:00:49 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You can print from your laptop to your printer at home while
  overseas, for example.  

Sounds very convenient ; ) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT again..] Technical networking question about changing GW

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:28:16 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I happen to be in a situation where I have both a DSL and CABLE
 connection to internet up for the time being... (Until the DSL
 contract month runs out).
 
 It affords a nifty opportunity to do some experiments.  Of course I
 tested the speeds of both and it varies between 200 and 500 % faster
 on the Cable connection.  (Nice).

Neat.  You should set up advanced routing so you can use both at once.  

 At first I used single machines connected independently to the
 respective IPs for testing, but it slowly dawned on me that I could
 hook everything up on the lan, to the same subnet and then just reset
 the GateWay target on individual machines as needed, for any of 6
 machines.
 
 So currently I have two internet outlets and two gateway routers on
 192.168.0.0/24

Good job!  Many wouldn't have caught that possibility, I bet.  

 Here's the technical part:
 Assume I have loaded a web page that downloads a video to my cache as
 it plays.  Assume further there are several of these to be played one
 by one.
 
 After playing one, if I reset my GW (and I have also rest
 /etc/resolv.conf to use that gw address for dns [probably not totally
 necessary]).

Right; you could use either to resolve.  

  Followed by /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart.

You may not even need to do that.  I think old ips should work OK with
a reset router.  

 Will the browser, which has not been restarted, now use the new
 gateway when I run the next link (or for testing, run the same link
 again), or will it continue on the same route (which is still
 available), that is, will the browser (firefox) continue using the
 original GW until the browser itself is restarted?

AFAIK the browser is effectively 'stateless'.  It shouldn't need to be
restarted for it's behavior to reflect changes to route, ifconfig, or
resolv.conf.  

 I know I could track all this with tcpdump but it gets sort of
 cumbersome unless you've memorized the necessary commands to filter
 output down to something more usable.  I usually get so tangled up
 with tcpdump I spend more time on it than the project at hand.  I
 don't use it very frequently so inevitably spend gobs of time at
 `man tcpdump' instead of tending to what I started to do.

Yeah, it's confusing.  I usually use one of a few incantations: 

# tcpdump -i eth0 port not 22

that dumps packets on interface eth0 that arent to port 22  (which I
was using to connect to the server, and gets messy real fast, as
tcpdump itself will be sending over port 22, hence a never-ending cycle
of tcpdump reporting its own traffic)


or perhaps something like:

# tcpdump -i eth0 port 80

that dumps all connections with port 80 on either side.  

Finally, for you, something like

# tcpdump 

will dump everything.  You can then ctrl-C and look through the output
(shift-pageUp/Dn if you have scrollback buffer in the kernel)


 Why I ask is that the site I'm doing this on requires me to login and
 then relocate the stuff I want to see if I have to restart the
 browser. 

No, I do this stuff all the time (to set up vpn from coffeeshops and
the like) and I don't ever restart my browser.  

 I wanted to try to gauge if there was much of a noticeable difference
 with the two IP connections.  And it would be handy to just step
 through the links changine the GW intermittently.

Yes, you can do that, but if you put a linux box between the gateways
and the network you can use both at once.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:14:59 -0500
Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been waiting and waiting and waiting forever for DSL to come to
 my neighborhood just so that I can switch to a decent provider and rid
 myself of this nonsense.

Don't assume DSL will be better.  They often block ports too (as you
said, it's well within their service agreement to do so, but I still
think it sucks).  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread Dale

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



It turned out to be a simple matter of cycling the various
modem/router PC s in the right order.  Once I got the help desk it
took about 2 minutes to get things resolved.  It was setup right just
needed to recycle the Modem with router off.  




So that is why they told me to cut off everything then turn on in 
sequence from the cable to the puter.  Makes sense now.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] eth0 = pcmcia + usb adapter

2008-02-11 Thread Simon Turner
Hi,
  I'm having trouble installing gentoo on my old laptop...  It says it
can't find the interface eth0.  I believe it has to do with the fact I
have a pcmcia card with usb ports on which a usb2eth adapter is
plugged.

  On another system I use on that laptop, it usually tries to
recognize my net adapters first (doesn't find any), then recognizes
pcmcia cards which enables support for the usb adapter, then in my
rc.local I have to manually setup my ip address or tell to use dhcp.

Hmmm, from inside the gentoo system, I found lsmod was empty (which
could be normal as I wanted everything compiled in the kernel) and
lspci was not found...

I'm pretty confortable with everything exept these pcmcia cards...  if
anybody could give me a hand!

Thanks, Simon

Below are extracts from my current system (slax6rc6, livelinux based
on slackware)

---(lspci)--
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX
Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 03)
00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97 (rev 05)
00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97 (rev 05)
00:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyber 9525 (rev 49)
00:05.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:05.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:05.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:05.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:07.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems 56k WinModem (rev 01)
00:0a.0 Communication controller: Toshiba America Info Systems FIR Port (rev 23)
00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)
05:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
05:00.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
05:00.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)

---(lsmod)---
Module  Size  Used by
xt_multiport3968  1
nf_conntrack_ipv4  14220  1
xt_state2944  1
nf_conntrack   49160  2 nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_state
nfnetlink   5912  2 nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack
xt_tcpudp   4096  5
iptable_filter  3328  1
ip_tables  11620  1 iptable_filter
x_tables   12420  4 xt_multiport,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables
snd_seq_dummy   3588  0
snd_seq_oss29696  0
snd_seq_midi_event  7040  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq46544  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss39584  0
snd_mixer_oss  14848  1 snd_pcm_oss
capability  4232  0
commoncap   6272  1 capability
fuse   38676  0
3c589_cs   11396  0
agpgart26568  0
lp 10792  0
parport_pc 24868  1
parport31816  2 lp,parport_pc
psmouse35592  0
pegasus23568  0
mii 5632  1 pegasus
radio_maestro   7296  0
compat_ioctl32  2176  1 radio_maestro
ohci_hcd   19460  0
ehci_hcd   29964  0
videodev   25728  1 radio_maestro
v4l2_common23296  1 videodev
v4l1_compat14724  2 radio_maestro,videodev
pcmcia 32172  1 3c589_cs
snd_es1968 24832  0
gameport   12168  1 snd_es1968
snd_ac97_codec 93860  1 snd_es1968
ac97_bus2944  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm68100  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_es1968,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  18948  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
donauboe   11008  0
snd_page_alloc  8328  2 snd_es1968,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 7552  1 snd_es1968
snd_rawmidi19360  1 snd_mpu401_uart
irda  109112  1 donauboe
snd_seq_device  7308  4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
serio_raw   6148  0
crc_ccitt   2816  2 donauboe,irda
pcspkr  3328  0
snd43108  11
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_es1968,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   6752  1 snd
ata_generic 6020  0
i2c_piix4   8332  0
i2c_core   18176  1 i2c_piix4
yenta_socket   24076  3
rsrc_nonstatic 11776  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core33684  4 3c589_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
sg 27292  0
evdev   8960  0
usb_storage79936  3
uhci_hcd   21644  0
nls_iso8859_1   4864  1
nls_cp437   6528  1
aufs   97140  1
squashfs   45316  59
sqlzma  3844  1 squashfs
unlzma  5504  1 sqlzma
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[gentoo-user] Clock issue

2008-02-11 Thread Amar Cosic
Hello all

I just upgraded my kenel to 2.6.23-r8 and everything seems to be
OK.Onlyissue I have is
clock.Its +1 hour what it should be. I have this issue before and during
boot there was some error that cant setup clock from /etc/conf.d/clock ,
you will have to set it up manualy .Unfortunetly I only have ssh acces to
my machine and cant see exact error.In /etc/conf.d/clock I have local set
up. Bios time is also what it should be. Before I build something in kernel
and everything was fine. I just cant remember what was it :/ . Any help ?
Thanks



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http://www.amar.co.ba


Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 08:54:06AM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote:
 Either is good; however you are going to need a different MX host for
 your mail I'm afraid.  Since hosts can't connect to 25 they can't send
 mail directly to you.  COX probably has provided an outgoing relay
 host, but didn't expect their customers to be receiving their own mail.
 
 jerks.  

Well, technically, if COX's service is anything like
CableVision/Optimum Online's, the small print in the TOS usually does
specify that you are not allowed to run servers on their residential
network (for which the ports are filtered [OTOH, if you are on a
business network, you should sue their ass for not delivering promised
performance]). 

I know that there might be a technical/legal gray area as to whether a
torrent tracker constitutes a server, but I am pretty sure that doing
your own Mail would require having an SMTP server, explicitly
disallowed by the TOS. 

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting forever for DSL to come to
my neighborhood just so that I can switch to a decent provider and rid
myself of this nonsense.
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408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics,  Princeton University,  Princeton
A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
 I'm hoping to use the vpn in three few ways:

  1. imap and smtp between my laptop and the mail server
  2. ssh from my laptop to the remote server
  3. cups printing from the remote server to the print server
   
I don't think you need a VPN to SSH from your laptop to the remote
server -- SSH is already encrypted.
 
   For sure, but it seems like running SSH inside a VPN is better for
   security than running SSH on a non-standard port or even port
   knocking.  If I need to set up a VPN for printing, shouldn't I use it
   for other stuff too?  Maybe not, I have yet to actually use a VPN so
   please correct me if I'm wrong.

 There are other ways to make SSH more secure. For example, you could

But what's wrong with this one? :)  Honestly though, why would any of
those methods be preferred to openvpn?

 only enable PubkeyAuthentication while disabling all other methods of
 Authentication, then use a large (4096-bit?) key pair with a strong
 passphrase[1] and use keychain[2] so you don't have to type in the
 passphrase all the time. OK, I'm exaggerating a bit with those
 passwords from GRC, but you get the idea.

 [1] https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/

 Also keep in mind the added overhead with OpenVPN -- your encrypted
 SSH traffic is again encrypted by the VPN.

Is this significant?  Would my SSH latency be increased, the system
slowed down, or both?

If your laptop is always behind your local firewall, then it should be
sufficient to have an OpenVPN tunnel established between your local
firewall/print server and your remote server. This should allow you to
print.
   
Configuring the routes on your laptop to go through your local
firewall and VPN to the remote server should allow you to grab your
mail.
   
If you move around with your laptop then you'll need to establish the
VPN tunnel to your remote server anytime you need to grab your mail
from anywhere else but home (behind your local firewall).
 
   Ah, tunnels, OK.  I need to think in terms of tunnels.  I'll
   definitely be moving around and won't be behind my local firewall too
   much of the time.  Can I set up the openvpn server on my remote system
   and keep a tunnel open between it and the firewall/print server for
   printing, and also initiate a tunnel between the laptop and the remote
   system whenever I need to mail or SSH?  Does that sound like a good
   plan?

 Yep, that should work. With a 'permanent' tunnel established between
 your remote server and your local firewall/print server, you'll always
 have access to those too simply by connecting via VPN to your remote
 server. You can print from your laptop to your printer at home while
 overseas, for example.

Nice, thanks Mike.

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] [OT] About Mozilla cache and online video watching

2008-02-11 Thread reader
I'm sorry to be bringing so much stuff up on this forum that is
actually off topic.  No one has complained but if anyone knows where
this question should be sent... please let me know.

I'm trying to work out the sequence of events when playing videos from
the internet.  There are many freebies out there to practice on and
some even worth keeping.  Lots of tutorial type stuff.

In the current case when I click a link to play a specific video I'm
seeing a file downloaded into firefox cache that appears to persist for
apparently whatever time user has set for cache stuff to linger.
They pile up in there as more links are clicked.

When I click a link a video appears in the browser window being played
by mplayer and is in qt format. A file name consisting of numbers and
uppercase letters appears in the cache.  That file can be renamed with
a *.mov (quicktime) extension and will play in mplayer or quicktime
there after.

However something strange happens when the file size is slightly above
25mb.  In that case the name that appeared in the cache when
downloading started, suddenly and instantly disappears when the
download finishes.  The embedded browser player can still play it as
much as desired but the on disk file has totally disappeared or been
moved somewhere else.  The cache shows zero files, yet the embedded
player seems unaffected.

It appears to occur consistently just slightly above 25mb as reported
by reiserfs and closely confirmed by information on the website that
tells the file size.

The online material itself does not appear to be protected or whatever since
they are offered for free right on the internet for anyone.  No login
or the like required.

I'm pretty sure the file is not being held in memory at that size and
in fact one would expect the smaller ones to also be if that were the
case. 

I would like to understand what is happening but don't really have a
good idea how to track it down.  Or even where to take such a question
or search for information that might help.

In the future I'd like to offer some of my own videos to my far flung
family across the internet and would like to have a pretty good grasp
on how it all works on both ends.  Since I will be expected to debug
or otherwise make sure things work smoothly.


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[gentoo-user] Re: USB Mouse

2008-02-11 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On Feb 7, 2008 12:23 PM, Hilco Wijbenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a USB mouse which likes to freeze up every now and then.
 Whenever I don't use my box for a little while (not necessarily long
 enough for the screen saver to kick in) and then touch the mouse, it
 will freeze right away or within a few seconds. Leaving X and starting
 X again doesn't fix the problem: I have to actually reboot.

 The only solution I have found is to make sure I use the keyboard to
 wake up the system. If I touch a key and wait a few seconds (that's
 important; if I use the mouse too fast it may still freeze up), I can
 safely use the mouse again without any trouble.

 So it looks like the USB mouse is going to sleep after a short period
 of inactivity and then refuses to wake up ... unless I use the
 keyboard first. There's a USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup in
 the kernel which I have made sure to deselect but that doesn't fix the
 problem.

 Does anyone else have this problem? Can anyone explain to me why this
 is happening? Does anyone know of a real solution?

 P.S. I have been running with the sys-kernel/mm-sources kernel which
 seems to behave much better but it's not officially supported so I
 went back to the regular sys-kernel/gentoo-sources kernel. I notice
 it's improved since the last time I tried it (i.e. the mouse doesn't
 freeze up as often anymore).

Anyone?
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread reader
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 AFAICT, cable modems that act as bridges are becoming more rare
 (DSL bridges were always more rare than cable bridges for some
 reason).  Comcast has tried to replace my (rented) bridge with
 a router a couple times, but I always insist that I want it
 replaced with a bridge.  So far, they've done it, but I'm
 afraid one of these days they aren't going to have any more of
 the bridging models available.

Assuming I've got it right that this modem is a bridging modem, it was
just sent out to me a few days ago so maybe they are still using them
here.  (Gary Indiana).

Scientific Atlanta (Its a division of Cisco)  DPC2100R2

 

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[gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick Holthaus
Hey there!

I wonder why Kmail does not import any gpg keys. For example on this list, 
many people sign their messages. But Kmail tells me something like this:

 Message was signed on xxx with unknown key xxx.
 The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
 Status: No public key to verify the signature

OpenPGP is selected in Crypto Backends with default keyserver 
http://pgp.mit.edu
Automatically import keys and certificates is also selected.

gpg-agent is running, with the following config (gpg.conf):

 grep -v '^#' ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf | uniq

 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve
 
 use-agent

 default-key  40A7BD65

 utf8-strings
 verbose
 utf8-strings

 encrypt-to  0x40A7BD65

and gpg-agent.conf:

 grep -v '^#' ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf | uniq
 pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt
 no-grab
 default-cache-ttl 1800
 
 debug-level basic
 log-file socket:///home/pholthau/.gnupg/log-socket
 allow-mark-trusted

I am running Kmail 1.9.7 (KDE 3.5.8) and gnupg 2.0.7.

Anyone knows whats going wrong?


Thanks
Patrick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?

2008-02-11 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer

As you have an Intel Core Duo, you should have the EMT64E version -
Intel's version of the AMD64 instruction set - thus x86-64 compatible.

Best place to check is Intel's website - here's what I found:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=sl9dv
http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm

With EMT64E, you will be able to compile for 64-bit mode using the
x86-64 builds. (You can only use Intel64 if you have the Itanium procs
if memory serves.)

However, unless you specifically install the x86-64/AMD64/64-bit
version, you will have a 32-bit x86 environment and kernel. You can
upgrade if you like...see other threads for that info.

HTH,

Ben

Wael Nasreddine wrote:
 Hello,
 
 It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
 page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I have a
 Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
 /proc/cpuinfo
 
  CUT
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 14
 model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 800.000
 cache size  : 2048 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores   : 2
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 10
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
 bogomips: 3460.63
 clflush size: 64
 
 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 14
 model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 800.000
 cache size  : 2048 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 1
 cpu cores   : 2
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 10
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
 bogomips: 3457.55
 clflush size: 64
  CUT
 
 So which arch do I really have??
 
 [1]: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?

2008-02-11 Thread Boris Fersing
On Feb 11, 2008 10:17 PM, Wael Nasreddine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
 page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I have a
 Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
 /proc/cpuinfo

  CUT
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 14
 model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 800.000
 cache size  : 2048 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores   : 2
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 10
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
 bogomips: 3460.63
 clflush size: 64

 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 14
 model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 800.000
 cache size  : 2048 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 1
 cpu cores   : 2
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 10
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
 bogomips: 3457.55
 clflush size: 64
  CUT

 So which arch do I really have??

Hi,

AFAIK the T2250 is a Yonah, which is only 32bits.

Boris.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick Holthaus
Hi and thanks for the reply!

 I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to have
 such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new key
 that has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

I changed the default server to the one you use. It seems to work now.
gpg --refresh-keys had an error with the MIT server and it works with yours.

Nevertheless I have to set the trust to ultimately of each imported key in 
KGPG, right?

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT again..] Technical networking question about changing GW

2008-02-11 Thread reader
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I wanted to try to gauge if there was much of a noticeable difference
 with the two IP connections.  And it would be handy to just step
 through the links changine the GW intermittently.

 Yes, you can do that, but if you put a linux box between the gateways
 and the network you can use both at once.  

Thanks for the tips... 

I'm pretty sure I've done that before in a similar situation a couple
years ago.  I don't recall exactly what I did now but I had only one nic
on the linux machine and ran two routers each with an Internet
connection.

Seems like it was a matter of setting a static route to some internet
address through the second gateway, but I've forgotten if there was
more to it.

The trick is getting stuff to use something besides the default route.

Ping can be directed but not any applications like browsers that I
know of.

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[gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?

2008-02-11 Thread Wael Nasreddine
Hello,

It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I have a
Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
/proc/cpuinfo

 CUT
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 14
model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size  : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon 
bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
bogomips: 3460.63
clflush size: 64

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 14
model name  : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2250  @ 1.73GHz
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size  : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon 
bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
bogomips: 3457.55
clflush size: 64
 CUT

So which arch do I really have??

[1]: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html

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[gentoo-user] Re: Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-11, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm thinking I may not have explained this properly.  My local
 ISP is Cox and I get the above list of filtered ports when
 port scanning my remote machine which is hosted halfway across
 the country.  Cox can't prevent me from scanning the SMTP port
 on my remote machine right?  My host must be filtering the
 ports?

 It's fairly standard practice on large mostly residential user
 ISPs to filter outgoing port 25 traffic to any IP, but the
 local SMTP servers. This stops a fair amount of spam, but can
 make troubleshooting complicated.

 Crazy, I didn't think they filtered outgoing ports.

Some do.  I try not to deal with ISPs that do that.  So far, so
good.

 This doesn't mean I need an MX host other than my remote
 server right?

Right.  The MX is fine.  You just need an ISP that doesn't
suck or a way around an ISP that does.

 It's not like the server connects via residential Cox, it's a
 hosted system.  I should be able to use SMTP from my laptop if
 I set up openvpn right?

Yup.  I told you there were going to be plenty of other uses
for a VPN besides printing. :)

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[gentoo-user] [OT again..] Technical networking question about changing GW

2008-02-11 Thread reader
I happen to be in a situation where I have both a DSL and CABLE
connection to internet up for the time being... (Until the DSL
contract month runs out).

It affords a nifty opportunity to do some experiments.  Of course I
tested the speeds of both and it varies between 200 and 500 % faster
on the Cable connection.  (Nice).

At first I used single machines connected independently to the
respective IPs for testing, but it slowly dawned on me that I could
hook everything up on the lan, to the same subnet and then just reset
the GateWay target on individual machines as needed, for any of 6
machines.

So currently I have two internet outlets and two gateway routers on
192.168.0.0/24

Here's the technical part:
Assume I have loaded a web page that downloads a video to my cache as
it plays.  Assume further there are several of these to be played one
by one.

After playing one, if I reset my GW (and I have also rest
/etc/resolv.conf to use that gw address for dns [probably not totally
necessary]).  Followed by /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart.

Will the browser, which has not been restarted, now use the new
gateway when I run the next link (or for testing, run the same link
again), or will it continue on the same route (which is still
available), that is, will the browser (firefox) continue using the
original GW until the browser itself is restarted?

I know I could track all this with tcpdump but it gets sort of
cumbersome unless you've memorized the necessary commands to filter
output down to something more usable.  I usually get so tangled up
with tcpdump I spend more time on it than the project at hand.  I
don't use it very frequently so inevitably spend gobs of time at
`man tcpdump' instead of tending to what I started to do.

Why I ask is that the site I'm doing this on requires me to login and
then relocate the stuff I want to see if I have to restart the
browser. 

I wanted to try to gauge if there was much of a noticeable difference
with the two IP connections.  And it would be handy to just step
through the links changine the GW intermittently.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenVPN setup

2008-02-11 Thread Mike Mazur
Hi Grant,

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm hoping to use the vpn in three few ways:
   
 1. imap and smtp between my laptop and the mail server
 2. ssh from my laptop to the remote server
 3. cups printing from the remote server to the print server
  
   I don't think you need a VPN to SSH from your laptop to the remote
   server -- SSH is already encrypted.

  For sure, but it seems like running SSH inside a VPN is better for
  security than running SSH on a non-standard port or even port
  knocking.  If I need to set up a VPN for printing, shouldn't I use it
  for other stuff too?  Maybe not, I have yet to actually use a VPN so
  please correct me if I'm wrong.

There are other ways to make SSH more secure. For example, you could
only enable PubkeyAuthentication while disabling all other methods of
Authentication, then use a large (4096-bit?) key pair with a strong
passphrase[1] and use keychain[2] so you don't have to type in the
passphrase all the time. OK, I'm exaggerating a bit with those
passwords from GRC, but you get the idea.

[1] https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/

Also keep in mind the added overhead with OpenVPN -- your encrypted
SSH traffic is again encrypted by the VPN.

   If your laptop is always behind your local firewall, then it should be
   sufficient to have an OpenVPN tunnel established between your local
   firewall/print server and your remote server. This should allow you to
   print.
  
   Configuring the routes on your laptop to go through your local
   firewall and VPN to the remote server should allow you to grab your
   mail.
  
   If you move around with your laptop then you'll need to establish the
   VPN tunnel to your remote server anytime you need to grab your mail
   from anywhere else but home (behind your local firewall).

  Ah, tunnels, OK.  I need to think in terms of tunnels.  I'll
  definitely be moving around and won't be behind my local firewall too
  much of the time.  Can I set up the openvpn server on my remote system
  and keep a tunnel open between it and the firewall/print server for
  printing, and also initiate a tunnel between the laptop and the remote
  system whenever I need to mail or SSH?  Does that sound like a good
  plan?

Yep, that should work. With a 'permanent' tunnel established between
your remote server and your local firewall/print server, you'll always
have access to those too simply by connecting via VPN to your remote
server. You can print from your laptop to your printer at home while
overseas, for example.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome overlay?

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
   Thanks for the help.  I'm updating rhythmbox via layman now.  Not sure
   why evolution-data-server is a dependency though.
 
  it's required by totem-pl-parser for some reason:

 Do you have the eds USE flag set?

No I've actually got -eds in make.conf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
  I'm thinking I may not have explained this properly.  My local ISP is
  Cox and I get the above list of filtered ports when port scanning my
  remote machine which is hosted halfway across the country.  Cox can't
  prevent me from scanning the SMTP port on my remote machine right?  My
  host must be filtering the ports?

 It's fairly standard practice on large mostly residential user ISPs to
 filter outgoing port 25 traffic to any IP, but the local SMTP servers.
 This stops a fair amount of spam, but can make troubleshooting complicated.

Crazy, I didn't think they filtered outgoing ports.  This doesn't mean
I need an MX host other than my remote server right?  It's not like
the server connects via residential Cox, it's a hosted system.  I
should be able to use SMTP from my laptop if I set up openvpn right?

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] eth0 = pcmcia + usb eth

2008-02-11 Thread Simon Turner
Hi,
  I'm having trouble installing gentoo on my old laptop...  It says it
can't find the interface eth0.  I believe it has to do with the fact I
have a pcmcia card with usb ports on which a usb2eth adapter is
plugged.

  On another system I use on that laptop, it usually tries to
recognize my net adapters first (doesn't find any), then recognizes
pcmcia cards which enables support for the usb adapter, then in my
rc.local I have to manually setup my ip address or tell to use dhcp.

Hmmm, from inside the gentoo system, I found lsmod was empty (which
could be normal as I wanted everything compiled in the kernel) and
lspci was not found...

I'm pretty confortable with everything exept these pcmcia cards...  if
anybody could give me a hand!

Thanks, Simon
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[gentoo-user] [O.T] Satellite A40-201 changing hard disk

2008-02-11 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi,

has someone changed the hard disk of that laptop? (or one from its
family?)
Any advice? May I buy a generic one?

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB Mouse

2008-02-11 Thread Philip Webb
On Feb 7, 2008 12:23 PM, Hilco Wijbenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a USB mouse which likes to freeze up every now and then.
 Whenever I don't use my box for a little while (not necessarily long
 enough for the screen saver to kick in) and then touch the mouse, it
 will freeze right away or within a few seconds. Leaving X and starting
 X again doesn't fix the problem: I have to actually reboot.
 The only solution I have found is to make sure I use the keyboard to
 wake up the system. If I touch a key and wait a few seconds (that's
 important; if I use the mouse too fast it may still freeze up), I can
 safely use the mouse again without any trouble.
 So it looks like the USB mouse is going to sleep after a short period
 of inactivity and then refuses to wake up ... unless I use the
 keyboard first. There's a USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup in
 the kernel which I have made sure to deselect but that doesn't fix the
 problem.

It looks like a hardware problem: have you tried a variety of mouses ?
Have you tried plugging onto all your USB ports ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:23:23 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I cringe at the idea of having to use a VPN for imap, however.
 
 Why?  Would you say the same of using it for SMTP?

I read email rather compulsively I guess, and would hate to be bothered
with VPNs, then use an encrypted mail session anyway.  

 I was thinking authentication + VPN, but maybe that's overkill.  I
 kinda like the idea of everything non-public going through the VPN.
 Nobody should be in there but me so there's no trust problem.  Is that
 too much?

No, especially not if you don't have other admins to deal with.  

 There are only three machines involved here:
 
 1. remote web/mail server, print client
 2. local firewall/router/print server
 3. local web/mail/print client
 
 I think it would make sense to make machine #2 the VPN server, but it
 is not nearly as reliable as machine #1 in terms of the internet
 connection and the hardware (machine #2 is getting old).  I would hate
 to be out of town and lose access to all email services because
 machine #2 goes down.  Machine #1 basically never goes down.  Could I
 make #1 the VPN server to maximize reliability and have everything
 work the way I want it to?
 

Yes, any of the computers can be the server.  I would put it on the
connection with best upload speeds myself, but your considerations here
seem relevant.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686

2008-02-11 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Hi,

Torrent file available here:
http://www.torrentbox.com/torrent_details?id=174031
http://isohunt.com/release/116718/gentoo?poster=cat=-1

They are the same, but isohunt is only a search engine, while the
torrentbox is the tracker.

Please help to seed if you can.

Thank you,

István

Magyarszkiul: van torrent, ha tudsz, segíts a seed-ben, köszönöm!

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-11 Thread reader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have
 both working currently.

I've snipped all responses but carefully read through them.  I think I
didn't provide enough info at the outset.

I see now that this cable modem has no ethernet address as several
posters have suggested.

Listing models may help the discussion so here they are:

The Comcast Cable modem: Scientific Atlanta-DPC2100RC (has MAC listed
on the sticker)

Two different Netgear Router/firewalls have been tried.  Same router
but older and newer models:

Older Netgear: 
FVS318 (Says Cable/DSL PROsafe VPN Firewall FVS318 across the front)

Newer Netgear: 
FVS318v3  (Says Cable/DSL PROsafe VPN Firewall FVS318 across the front)

The newer one is a couple of years newer and purchased about 1 yr ago.

It may just be software differences but they do have somewhat
different interfaces.  The older one is using the latest software it
is capable of loading, as is the newer one, but in the later case the
software is a newer version than the old one supports.

One curious thing here is that both of these Netgear routers have at
one time or another been connected to a Comcast provided modem and
worked fine.  In both of those cases the Netgear using its connection
wizard, simply found and ID'ed the cable modem... and just worked from
there on.  I only setup the lanside addressing since I prefer all
static addresses inside.

Ditto for DSL... again both Netgear routers have worked with DSL
routers and again the connection was established by simply running the
connection wizard.

In the current case, neither of these routers was able to just
identify and connect to the cable modem or internet through it.  And
in both cases the wizard ends up saying the connection type is STATIC
and offers to accept the static addresses from user.  I doubt the
addressing is really STATIC.

I think my next step here will be to take the IP address and
Nameserver from IPconfig (or netstat) on the windows box that will
connect using the Cable modem, and see if those addresses will work
when inserted into the netgears as static outside addresses to connect
to.  

If that works, It may hold until a new address is issued for whatever
reason from comcast... and I may get some help from them by then.

I will report back if there is any interest?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [O.T] Satellite A40-201 changing hard disk

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:55:29 +0100
Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 has someone changed the hard disk of that laptop? (or one from its
 family?)
 Any advice? May I buy a generic one?
 
 TIA,
 

judging by
http://es.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EScom.broadvision.session.new=YesPRODUCT_ID=83494

it appears to be a 'normal' laptop, any 'normal' 2.5 drive should work.
If I were you I'd take out the drive and make sure you get the same
kind -- but I haven't heard of anything funky going on with the drives
recently.  any generic drive should do the trick.  
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