Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu ?

2009-02-02 Thread Grant
 It looks like you've probably used the x86 stage3 tarball instead of the
 i686 one. While you can change it [0], the best option is probably to
 start again using the correct tarball.

 Note that if you do want to change CHOST, you _MUST_ follow the guide[0] or
 you will end up with problems.

 [0] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml

Thanks a lot, I read somewhere that I should not change my CHOST so I
was trying to figure out what was going on as opposed to figuring out
how to change it.

- Grant

 I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110.  It's one of the
 netbook laptops.  /etc/make.conf says:

 CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu

 Is that correct?

 - Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: CHOST='i486-pc-linux-gnu' ?

2009-02-02 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes:


  CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu

 It's a 32-bit CPU.  I'm just confused as to why it doesn't qualify as
 a 686 instead of 486.


Run:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
to be certain about the cpu.  YOu can usually do this with any boot/install
disk, prior to installation.


James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No RTC kernel support needed?

2009-02-02 Thread Grant
  One of my systems needed Real Time Clock - PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in
  the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make
  the 'hwclock' command work.  Another of my systems doesn't have Real
  Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works
  fine.  Does anyone know how that works?
 
  It might have something to do with the High Resolution Timer Support
  option (in Processor type and features.)  Not sure though.

 Thank you but none of my systems seem to have that enabled.

 - Grant

 See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731009-highlight-.html
 HTH

Thanks, does anyone know where this has gone in 2.6.28:

Device Drivers - Character Devices - Enhanced Real Time Clock Support

Or what the variable name might be so I can look it up that way?  I
couldn't find it by searching for RTC in .config.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox

2009-02-02 Thread Grant
 Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
 that's funny.

 Oh, what an intelligent machine you've got ;-p
 Did it already point you to Tarpley's biography about Hussein Obama ?
 Or to Obma's connections to Brezinski (the one who wants to get
 China into war against Russia) ?

 What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
 election campaign?

 IT WAS HUSHED UP BY TEH LIBERAL MEDIA!!!

 WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!




 Just a honest question from Germany:

 Which ones are the liberal medias overseas?

 Since from here I wouldn't call anything I know liberal, let alone
 anything progressive...

 Sebastian



 If you mean liberal in the USA, NBC being the most, then CNN, CBS and
 ABC.  CNN and CBS are about the same and ABC is somewhat better.
 According to some media research folks, BBC is left leaning as well.  I
 have watched it a few times and saw no reason to disagree.

 The hard part is finding a source for the facts so a person can make
 their own decisions.  For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had
 then along came Fox.  The old media seemed to think the people are all
 stupid and needed someone to make decisions for them instead of
 realizing that most Americans are smart enough to do their own
 thinking.  Of course, that is also why Fox has more viewers than CNN,
 MSNBC and the rest combined.

 Hope that answered your question.

I don't think we should pretend that our own views don't scew our
perception of not only what is true, but also what is fair and
balanced.  I'm a liberal fellow and although NBC and CNN do seem
liberal to me, I still perceive them to be a good source of news
facts.  ABC seems only very slightly to the left, and Fox seems so far
to the right it's ridiculous.  These aren't evaluations of truthiness,
but of fairness.  Dale obviously disagrees.  The point is that no one
is actually a good judge of truth *or* fairness.

As for why Fox has more (let's say the same number of) viewers as
the rest of the networks, I think you stated the reason exactly:

For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had then along came Fox.

Conservative folks don't have any other choice, and the US seems to be
pretty split in half as far as Democrats/Republicans if elections
results are any indication.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Tom
maybe a pointer to the documentation?

Is there such a thing? I mean a comprehensive guide for doing such work
on (not only) gentoo systems?

Tom



Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox

2009-02-02 Thread Dale
Grant wrote:
 Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
 that's funny.

   
 Oh, what an intelligent machine you've got ;-p
 Did it already point you to Tarpley's biography about Hussein Obama ?
 Or to Obma's connections to Brezinski (the one who wants to get
 China into war against Russia) ?

 
 What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
 election campaign?

   
 IT WAS HUSHED UP BY TEH LIBERAL MEDIA!!!

 WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!



 
 Just a honest question from Germany:

 Which ones are the liberal medias overseas?

 Since from here I wouldn't call anything I know liberal, let alone
 anything progressive...

 Sebastian


   
 If you mean liberal in the USA, NBC being the most, then CNN, CBS and
 ABC.  CNN and CBS are about the same and ABC is somewhat better.
 According to some media research folks, BBC is left leaning as well.  I
 have watched it a few times and saw no reason to disagree.

 The hard part is finding a source for the facts so a person can make
 their own decisions.  For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had
 then along came Fox.  The old media seemed to think the people are all
 stupid and needed someone to make decisions for them instead of
 realizing that most Americans are smart enough to do their own
 thinking.  Of course, that is also why Fox has more viewers than CNN,
 MSNBC and the rest combined.

 Hope that answered your question.
 

 I don't think we should pretend that our own views don't scew our
 perception of not only what is true, but also what is fair and
 balanced.  I'm a liberal fellow and although NBC and CNN do seem
 liberal to me, I still perceive them to be a good source of news
 facts.  ABC seems only very slightly to the left, and Fox seems so far
 to the right it's ridiculous.  These aren't evaluations of truthiness,
 but of fairness.  Dale obviously disagrees.  The point is that no one
 is actually a good judge of truth *or* fairness.

 As for why Fox has more (let's say the same number of) viewers as
 the rest of the networks, I think you stated the reason exactly:

 For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had then along came Fox.

 Conservative folks don't have any other choice, and the US seems to be
 pretty split in half as far as Democrats/Republicans if elections
 results are any indication.

 - Grant


   

 A lot of what you said is dead on.  I do have to add that there are
independent organizations that analyze the broadcasts of CNN, Fox and
others and then report who is leaning where.  [1]  That is where I got
my information.  I didn't just make it up.  Repeatedly over the years
Fox told both sides of the story and not just one side.  They also look
at WHAT is being reported.  Let's say Obama makes a screw up, Fox will
talk about it but most likely NBC won't even mention it since they were
in the tank for him and supported him during the election.  

Also, Fox is not conservative.  It's just that CNN and others are so far
to the left that Fox looks like it is right.  I see both Dems and Reps
on Fox but whenever I see CNN, they mostly tell one side, the side they
support.  I want both sides so I can make up my own mind.  I'm doing
that with the bail out plan they are talking about now.  Yes, I still
call it a bail out but it looks more like social engineering to me. 

My point is this, I watched CNN for years with really no other source
for news.  Then comes the internet and Fox news.  Now I see that my gut
feeling was right.  They were not reporting the news but trying to tell
me what to think.  That is a serious turn off.  I'm divorced because I
got lied to.  That was the root cause of that.  CNN and friends is about
like my ex.  They both lied and I don't deal with either of them. 
Honest mistakes are one thing but trying to tell people something that
is not accurate is not.  I'm one of those you screw up once and I'm done. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[1]  http://www.mediaresearch.org/  That is just one that I could
remember off the top of my head. 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:
 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:

   
 The problem I ran into when I copied the old way, cp
 arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot, that wasn't the kernel but was a link to
 the kernel in the x86 directory tree.  When I copied the link then the
 link got broke and then it appeared red on my screen.  I thought I was
 going nuts for a bit.  I hadn't heard anything about the kernel being
 moved and it had been a while.  I'm old and I do forget sometimes.
 

 Dale, from one old `f..t' to another.. here is a little tip I use
 dozens of ways to aid my sorry failing memory.

 In ~/.inputrc

 Something like (verbatim):

\M-f: ls -l `find ./ -iname 'bzimage'`

 after saving ~/.inputrc, type C-x C-r to make readline re-read
 it.

 Then anytime you press Atl-f readline will put that command on the
 cmdline for you.

 So inside /usr/src/linux, Alt-f enter will dig up bzimage and show
 any deceitful symlinks for what they are... hehe.

 May not be that useful .. at least until someone sneaks in and moves
 bzimage again, but I guess you can imagine the many ways putting
 things in .inputrc will free you from remembering stuff.



   

Well, what I did was go into Konqueror and look to see where the link
was pointing too.  It told me exactly where it was.  I could have done
the same in console but I was logged into KDE already so I just did it
the Nintendo way.  LOL 

Yep, I'm only 41 but I feel like a lot older most days.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Grant wrote:
 Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
 that's funny.

Seriously folks. This conversation is WAY off topic. Could those
interested in this topic please find another venue - even a PRIVATE
conversation - before this errupts into some sort of flame fest. I'm
certianly not subscribed to this list for this sort of info.

I have my opinions on the current (non-original) subject but I'll keep
them to myself.

With best regards,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Gack... cups docu

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation?

Here using http://localhost:631  just fails with standard message
unable to connect to server at 631.

The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/
appears to have the href links setup so that they point to somewhere
on the file system that doesn't contain the hoped for file.

Anyway.. trying to decipher how to get to some handy setup help
appears to be a non-starter here at least.

And all that is happening before getting to anything useful to read.




[gentoo-user] Re: Gack... cups docu

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation?

 Here using http://localhost:631  just fails with standard message
 unable to connect to server at 631.

 The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/
 appears to have the href links setup so that they point to somewhere
 on the file system that doesn't contain the hoped for file.

 Anyway.. trying to decipher how to get to some handy setup help
 appears to be a non-starter here at least.

 And all that is happening before getting to anything useful to read.

Errr... nevermind /etc/init.d/cupsd  solved that problem.

Seems it would be wise to say a word about that in the cups README.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gack... cups docu

2009-02-02 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:
 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

   
 Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation?

 Here using http://localhost:631  just fails with standard message
 unable to connect to server at 631.

 The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/
 appears to have the href links setup so that they point to somewhere
 on the file system that doesn't contain the hoped for file.

 Anyway.. trying to decipher how to get to some handy setup help
 appears to be a non-starter here at least.

 And all that is happening before getting to anything useful to read.
 

 Errr... nevermind /etc/init.d/cupsd  solved that problem.

 Seems it would be wise to say a word about that in the cups README.



   

I was curious about that because I clicked on the link and it opened up
cups here.  I just thought I was the only one that could do that.  o_O

Don't forget to add it to the default runlevel. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu ?

2009-02-02 Thread Florian Philipp

AllenJB schrieb:

Hi,

It looks like you've probably used the x86 stage3 tarball instead of 
the i686 one. While you can change it [0], the best option is probably 
to start again using the correct tarball.


Note that if you do want to change CHOST, you _MUST_ follow the guide[0] 
or you will end up with problems.


[0] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml



Is there any drawback from an i486 CHOST when -march settings indicate 
an i686? Does it produce slower code?




Re: [gentoo-user] meta-packages and buildpkgonly

2009-02-02 Thread Roy Wright

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:14:34 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:


nice -19 emerge -j4 --buildpgkonly kde-base/kde-meta

but it takes next to no time instead of hours and
hasn't build the binary packages without any error messages.
What am I missing?


--buildpkg only works if the dependent packages are installed, you cannot
build kmail-4.2 (for package or install) if kdelibs-4.2 is not installed.
That's a long way round of saying that you can't do what you want and
build all the KDE4 packages in advance.

To minimise downtime, even though it increases the overall install time,
you could upgrade you your KDE3 install to 3.5.10. Then you can install
KDE 4.x alongside it.


KDE 4.2 is slotted so I just built it as normal from within kde 4.1.4 
while continuing to use the system.  When the emerge finished, I 
continued in 4.1.4 for about an hour until I hit a stopping point, then 
dispatched-conf (no kde conf changes) logged out and chose 4.2 and 
logged back in (didn't even restart X).  This was smoothest kde upgrade 
that I can recall, big kudos to the devs!


A few hours into using 4.2 and no glitches!  I'm actually able to use
plasmoids without 10 second UI freezes.  Whoop!  And that's on nvidia 
8600GTS and ~x86.  First impression is 4.2 is ready for prime time.


Have fun,
Roy





Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:23:56 +
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:

  make all modules_install install
 
  Which also, as a nice bonus, backs up your kernel config too.
 
 Does this not also add the system.map file  a couple of others to / 
 boot ?

 I think I tried this /or genkernel  when I looked at /boot I found  
 they'd littered the place with clutter.
 
 I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added  
 made me want to barf.
 
 I have avoided any such complications since, considering I don't  
 consider copying a file  editing grub.conf to be anything of a  
 complication myself.

It does, but it does that on your command.

Try 'cd /usr/src/linux  make help'. Hopefully, it'll shed some light
on this dark matter: install just launches some (your) script.

I've created one in /root/bin, so it'll cp  symlink bzImage, instead
of making two copies, you'd probably want to put just 'cp  mv  ln'
in there. Can't see much point in doing it by hand every time, really.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:23:56 +, Stroller wrote:

  Which also, as a nice bonus, backs up your kernel config too.  
 
 Does this not also add the system.map file  a couple of others to / 
 boot ?

It add three files, the kernel, the config and System map. The first is
needed, the second is useful, the third can be deleted. 


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] meta-packages and buildpkgonly

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Roy Wright r...@wright.org wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:14:34 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 nice -19 emerge -j4 --buildpgkonly kde-base/kde-meta

 but it takes next to no time instead of hours and
 hasn't build the binary packages without any error messages.
 What am I missing?

 --buildpkg only works if the dependent packages are installed, you cannot
 build kmail-4.2 (for package or install) if kdelibs-4.2 is not installed.
 That's a long way round of saying that you can't do what you want and
 build all the KDE4 packages in advance.

 To minimise downtime, even though it increases the overall install time,
 you could upgrade you your KDE3 install to 3.5.10. Then you can install
 KDE 4.x alongside it.

 KDE 4.2 is slotted so I just built it as normal from within kde 4.1.4 while
 continuing to use the system.  When the emerge finished, I continued in
 4.1.4 for about an hour until I hit a stopping point, then dispatched-conf
 (no kde conf changes) logged out and chose 4.2 and logged back in (didn't
 even restart X).  This was smoothest kde upgrade that I can recall, big
 kudos to the devs!

 A few hours into using 4.2 and no glitches!  I'm actually able to use
 plasmoids without 10 second UI freezes.  Whoop!  And that's on nvidia
 8600GTS and ~x86.  First impression is 4.2 is ready for prime time.

 Have fun,
 Roy

Random KDE 4.2 impressions from a long-time KDE 3.x user:

I still get desktop crashes when trying to do things with plasmoids
(randomly) so I don't have any, and I question their usefulness
anyway. adding desktop widgets while simultaneously removing
traditional icons and trying to discourage people from using the
desktop (in vista as well as KDE) seems odd to me. I miss my dockable
weather applet from KDE 3.5 :( I don't want to have to minimize
everything I've got open just to see the temperature on a widget. But
that's not a problem because the weather widget in KDE4 doesn't work
for me anyway.

All konsole sessions run from the same procress, so when it crashed
while browsing fonts, it crashed every konsole i had open all at
once...

Default fonts (by family, serif, sans-serif, etc) in KDE4 were
corrupted for me in every version (maybe I'm missing some fonts that
the ebuild doesn't require?), I had to manually change every font to a
specific existing font to make them not look horrible (anti-aliasing)
and to fix the invisible text problem (blank text on add widget
dialog, blank text on taskbar).

I got X crashes constantly until I removed all nvidia settings from my
xorg.conf and just used the defaults. It has been good since then.

Performance/responsiveness (with desktop effects enabled) is nowhere
near as good as 3.5, obviously. Specifically konsole is SO SLOW. Using
the right (or wrong) combination of fonts and font settings can cause
simply running top in a konsole to use 99% CPU. Scrolling around in MC
with the arrow keys is sluggish. Disabling the KDE desktop effects
makes this problem go away, but then that's the only big improvement
over KDE 3.

KDE4 tries to automount discs and USB drives etc which I hate. I
haven't tried to disable it yet but it's on my list of things to do.

I do not use the GUI file manager stuff (in KDE3 or KDE4) so I can't
say whether that's any better or worse. KDE4 uses one-click to launch
stuff by default which is really annoying to me. I'm sure that can be
changed somewhere but again I haven't had time to mess with that yet.

Visually it looks like a total rip-off of Vista, including the new 4.2
taskbar. The default window borders theme is grey and I find it has
too little contrast, it's hard to tell which things are active/focused
and which are background. I've accidentally clicked the wrong X a few
times. :P

In KDE 4.0 and 4.1 I tried them for less than 1 day and gave up, going
back to 3.x. This time I'm trying to force myself to stick with KDE
4.2 for a while to see how it goes. Especially since it seems KDE3 is
going to reach unsupported state in the near future...

The lack of an upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4 is really annoying. I had
hundreds of sites in Akregator. Fired up KDE4 and it was blank. eek!
Tried copying over the data files, Akregator crashed every time.
Eventually I was able to copy just the definitions but not the message
data and that seems to have worked without crashing so far... but i
lost all my archived data. :(



[gentoo-user] Instaling KDE 4.2, second attempt...

2009-02-02 Thread Robin Atwood
My first attempt at installing KDE 4.2 so trashed my desktop I had to perform 
a general restore to remove all traces of it. I have a completely current 
3.5.10 system running, so I thought I would get a situation where I could 
choose which system to login to. In fact, on my second attempt, I get my 
original KDM 3.5 login screen and no new options and when I login I do get my 
original desktop environment, albeit with corrupt konqueror tool bars. Any 
ideas how to enable KDM 4.2 and get the new desktop? 

TIA
-Robin
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[gentoo-user] pidgin build error

2009-02-02 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi,

I'm getting this errorn when trying to emerge pidgin:

gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
make[6]: *** [blib/arch/auto/Purple/Purple.so] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2/libpurple/plugins/perl/common'
make[5]: *** [all-local] Error 2
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2/libpurple/plugins/perl'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2/libpurple/plugins'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2/libpurple'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2/libpurple'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/net-im/pidgin-2.5.2/work/pidgin-2.5.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2
 * 
 * ERROR: net-im/pidgin-2.5.2 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 3468:  Called die

My CHOST is:
# grep CHOST /etc/make.conf
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu


never changed...
# gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *


Anyone could help me?

TIA,
Arnau



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Panning desktop on windows

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:

 On 31 Jan 2009, at 21:10, Stroller wrote:

 ... Bigger than my
 monitor a fair bit so I'm able to pan around this monster by mousing
 to the screen edges which pans the rest into view.  ...

 This is definitely available on Windows using 3rd-party apps.

 I'm pretty sure that - years ago - Matrox used to offer to install some
 utility ... it opened a configuration window that offered options like this.

 I should have said I'm pretty sure that it offered EXACTLY this option.

 Stroller.

Yes, Matrox's drivers for OS/2 also allowed it, there was a hotkey to
control zoom, which included panning when not at 100%. Kind of like
ctrl-alt-+ in X, but not exactly because OS/2 didn't allow you to
change resolutions without rebooting (those were the days).



Re: [gentoo-user] localmount before fsck: e2fsck complaining

2009-02-02 Thread reQuiem23



Dirk Heinrichs-2 wrote:
 
 Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 14:03:29 schrieb reQuiem23:
 
 when i remove checkfs, though, it
 would not solve the problem of localmount being run before fsck, would
 it?
 
 Sure it would.
 
 the mounted /home part could still not be scanned, i suppose. am i wrong
 here?
 
 Yes.
 
 Bye...
 
   Dirk
 
  
 

Okay, I'll give it a try.

Greetings,
Niklas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No RTC kernel support needed?

2009-02-02 Thread Robin Atwood
On Monday 02 Feb 2009, Grant wrote:
   One of my systems needed Real Time Clock - PC-style 'CMOS' enabled
   in the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to
   make the 'hwclock' command work.  Another of my systems doesn't have
   Real Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock'
   works fine.  Does anyone know how that works?
  
   It might have something to do with the High Resolution Timer Support
   option (in Processor type and features.)  Not sure though.
 
  Thank you but none of my systems seem to have that enabled.
 
  - Grant
 
  See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731009-highlight-.html
  HTH

 Thanks, does anyone know where this has gone in 2.6.28:

 Device Drivers - Character Devices - Enhanced Real Time Clock Support

 Or what the variable name might be so I can look it up that way?  I
 couldn't find it by searching for RTC in .config.

 - Grant

$ grep RTC .config
CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y
CONFIG_RTC=m
CONFIG_GEN_RTC=m
CONFIG_GEN_RTC_X=y

Found under Device Drivers - Character Devices

-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Instaling KDE 4.2, second attempt...

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote:
 My first attempt at installing KDE 4.2 so trashed my desktop I had to perform
 a general restore to remove all traces of it. I have a completely current
 3.5.10 system running, so I thought I would get a situation where I could
 choose which system to login to. In fact, on my second attempt, I get my
 original KDM 3.5 login screen and no new options and when I login I do get my
 original desktop environment, albeit with corrupt konqueror tool bars. Any
 ideas how to enable KDM 4.2 and get the new desktop?

In my case I uninstalled KDE 3 completely before trying to install KDE
4.2. Also make sure your xdm has kde-4.2 so it uses the new KDM.



Re: [gentoo-user] meta-packages and buildpkgonly

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:45 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 --buildpkg only works if the dependent packages are installed,

Sorry, wrong way round, I meant dependencies, not dependent packages.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Instaling KDE 4.2, second attempt...

2009-02-02 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 03 Feb 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net 
wrote:
  My first attempt at installing KDE 4.2 so trashed my desktop I had to
  perform a general restore to remove all traces of it. I have a completely
  current 3.5.10 system running, so I thought I would get a situation where
  I could choose which system to login to. In fact, on my second attempt, I
  get my original KDM 3.5 login screen and no new options and when I login
  I do get my original desktop environment, albeit with corrupt konqueror
  tool bars. Any ideas how to enable KDM 4.2 and get the new desktop?

 In my case I uninstalled KDE 3 completely before trying to install KDE
 4.2. Also make sure your xdm has kde-4.2 so it uses the new KDM.

No the problem was that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is not the same as restarting xdm. 
Doing that, I got the new login screen.

-Robin
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[gentoo-user] ebuild for x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3 is missing after portage update but required by the system configuration

2009-02-02 Thread Dimitris Kavadas
Hello,

After updating portage via emerge --sync, I tried to perform world
update issuing the following command:

emerge -DupvN world

The command ended with the following message:


These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3.
(dependency required by net-wireless/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1-r2 [installed])
(dependency required by world [argument])

So, what seems to be the problem?

Is it my system configuration or is it a portage issue?

TIA

Dimitris



[gentoo-user] Re: pidgin build error

2009-02-02 Thread ABCD
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Arnau Bria wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm getting this errorn when trying to emerge pidgin:
 
 gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
snip errors building perl stuff for pidgin
 
 My CHOST is:
 # grep CHOST /etc/make.conf
 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 
 
 never changed...
 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *
 
 
 Anyone could help me?
 
 TIA,
 Arnau
 
 

It appears that you may have changed your CHOST at some point in the
past - if so, you may want to try rebuilding sys-libs/libperl and
dev-lang/perl, which may fix this error (you might want to try that even
if you *haven't* changed your CHOST, just in case).

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Re: [gentoo-user] localmount before fsck: e2fsck complaining

2009-02-02 Thread reQuiem23



Bugzilla from en.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 reQuiem23 wrote:
 hi all,
 
 i just noticed some warnings in my bootup process. the order of the
 services
 in question is checkfs - localmount - fsck. however, checkfs does the
 pending file system checks already before the partitions are mounted, so
 why
 is there another service fsck which seems to do just the same?
 especially
 because my /home partition is already mounted by localmount when fsck
 starts, which is sort of a problem.
 
 Greetings,
 Niklas
 
 
 It seems that you have a mixture of baselayout1 and baselayout2/openrc
 scripts installed simultaneously, which can cause all kinds of problems
 - - the service checkfs does not exist in baselayout2/openrc, and so can
 be deleted (the reason it was not deleted is *probably* because it had
 been edited at some point, and was therefore under CONFIG_PROTECT).  You
 may also be having other problems due to this, but that's the most
 obvious that I can see from your description.
 
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hallo, thank you very much for the answer. i wouldn't now why checkfs should
have been in CONFIG_PROTECT, because i have never touched it, but it is true
that i had to update my openrc/baselayout. when i remove checkfs, though, it
would not solve the problem of localmount being run before fsck, would it?
the mounted /home part could still not be scanned, i suppose. am i wrong
here?

Greetings,
Niklas
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Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox

2009-02-02 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Stroller (strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk) [01.02.09 00:23]:

 On 31 Jan 2009, at 22:54, Grant wrote:

 Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
 that's funny.

 Oh, what an intelligent machine you've got ;-p
 Did it already point you to Tarpley's biography about Hussein Obama ?
 Or to Obma's connections to Brezinski (the one who wants to get
 China into war against Russia) ?

 What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
 election campaign?

 IT WAS HUSHED UP BY TEH LIBERAL MEDIA!!!

 WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!



Just a honest question from Germany:

Which ones are the liberal medias overseas?

Since from here I wouldn't call anything I know liberal, let alone 
anything progressive...

Sebastian

-- 
Calvin: It says here that Religion is the opiate of the masses
... what do you suppose *that* means?
TV: ... it means Karl Marx hadn't seen anything yet.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Miernik
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Typo there I think.  Try revdep-rebuild -i and see if that helps.

Unfortunately it didn't help:


przehyba ~ # revdep-rebuild -i
 * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

 * Checking reverse dependencies
 * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
 * will be emerged.

 * Collecting system binaries and libraries
 * Generated new 1_files.rr
 * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr
 * Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 29% ]  *   broken /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 (requires 
libqt-mt.so.3)
[ 100% ]
 * Generated new 3_broken.rr
 * Assigning files to packages
 *   /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 - 
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs
 * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr
 * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild
 * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr
 * Assigning packages to ebuilds
 * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr
 * Evaluating package order
!!! Invalid PORTDIR_OVERLAY (not a dir): 
'/usr/portage/local/layman/java-overlay'
 *
 * Portage could not find any version of the following packages it could build:
 *  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs:0
 *
 * (Perhaps they are masked, blocked, or removed from portage.)
 * Try to emerge them manually.
 *
 * Warning: Portage cannot rebuild any of the necessary packages.
przehyba ~ # 

Even if it could rebuild app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs I doubt
that one package would fix it all, it is something for sound, and my
problems are not related to sound.

Any other ideas?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pidgin build error

2009-02-02 Thread Arnau Bria
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:38:42 -0500
ABCD ABCD wrote:

[...]
 It appears that you may have changed your CHOST at some point in the
 past - if so, you may want to try rebuilding sys-libs/libperl and
 dev-lang/perl, which may fix this error (you might want to try that
 even if you *haven't* changed your CHOST, just in case).
Did it, and got same error...

 my system is 2 days old and comes from frsh install, no CHOST changes,
 sure.

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[gentoo-user] meta-packages and buildpkgonly

2009-02-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

again for the kde upgrade I'd like to prepare the upgrade
by build all necessary binary packages and do the real update
some times later when it doesn't matter if the machine is down
for some time

Using portage 2.2_rc23 I've just tried

nice -19 emerge -j4 --buildpgkonly kde-base/kde-meta

but it takes next to no time instead of hours and
hasn't build the binary packages without any error messages.
What am I missing?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

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Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
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Re: [gentoo-user] localmount before fsck: e2fsck complaining

2009-02-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 14:03:29 schrieb reQuiem23:

 when i remove checkfs, though, it
 would not solve the problem of localmount being run before fsck, would it?

Sure it would.

 the mounted /home part could still not be scanned, i suppose. am i wrong
 here?

Yes.

Bye...

Dirk


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[gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?



[gentoo-user] localversion [was: When did bzImage move? ]

2009-02-02 Thread David Relson
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:22:29 -0600
Harry Putnam wrote:

 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
 
  cd /usr/src/linux
  echo $(hostname)- localversion1
  ln -s .version localversion2
 
  will give each kernel a name with the hostname and version
  added. .version is automatically incremented each time you run make.
 
 I'm sorry for being so dense but that isn't clear to my pea brain
 either.
 
 The idea from above is to end up with:
 
 localversion1
 localversion2 - .version
 .version
 
 Where:
localversion1 contains HOSTNAME
.version contains number `N' (current build)
localversion2 is symlinked to .version
 
 All under /usr/src/linux ?
 
 If you're sick of trying to explain it to me... maybe a pointer to the
 documentation? 
 

With LOCALVERSION=-aaa in linux/.config
and  -bbb- in linux/localversion1
and  3 in linux/.version
and  a symlink from localversion2 to .version
running genkernel all produces a kernel named linux-2.6.28-bbb-3-aaa



Re: [gentoo-user] STAR options have me confused

2009-02-02 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 February 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I do not seem to be able to run star with the correct options despite
  some experimenting ... and was hoping you could correct my errors.

 Try the command lines from the example section in the man page ;-)

Thanks Joerg, it may not look like it but that's how I started.

  I want to save the backup on a USB drive on /media/sda1.  Therefore I ran
  star as root like this:
 
  # cd /dev/sda1
  # star -xattr -H=exustar -c -f hda5_root1.star /media/hda5 -C /media/sda1

 This is a useless command line as -C /media/sda1 is executed after
 archiving /media/hda5.

Does this mean that I should have '-C /media/sda1' before '/media/hda5' ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No RTC kernel support needed?

2009-02-02 Thread Robin Atwood
On Sunday 01 Feb 2009, Grant wrote:
  One of my systems needed Real Time Clock - PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in
  the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make
  the 'hwclock' command work.  Another of my systems doesn't have Real
  Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works
  fine.  Does anyone know how that works?
 
  It might have something to do with the High Resolution Timer Support
  option (in Processor type and features.)  Not sure though.

 Thank you but none of my systems seem to have that enabled.

 - Grant

See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731009-highlight-.html
HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:22:29 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 The idea from above is to end up with:
 
 localversion1
 localversion2 - .version
 .version
 
 Where:
localversion1 contains HOSTNAME
.version contains number `N' (current build)
localversion2 is symlinked to .version
 
 All under /usr/src/linux ?

That's right. The contents of any localversion* files are appended to the
kernel name. .version is automatically updated by the kernel make
scripts, so linking that to a localversion* file magically gives each
kernel build a new name.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?

2009-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:

 cd /usr/src/linux
 echo $(hostname)- localversion1
 ln -s .version localversion2

 will give each kernel a name with the hostname and version
 added. .version is automatically incremented each time you run make.

I'm sorry for being so dense but that isn't clear to my pea brain
either.

The idea from above is to end up with:

localversion1
localversion2 - .version
.version

Where:
   localversion1 contains HOSTNAME
   .version contains number `N' (current build)
   localversion2 is symlinked to .version

All under /usr/src/linux ?

If you're sick of trying to explain it to me... maybe a pointer to the
documentation? 




Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu ?

2009-02-02 Thread AllenJB

Hi,

It looks like you've probably used the x86 stage3 tarball instead of 
the i686 one. While you can change it [0], the best option is probably 
to start again using the correct tarball.


Note that if you do want to change CHOST, you _MUST_ follow the guide[0] 
or you will end up with problems.


[0] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml

AllenJB

Grant wrote:

I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110.  It's one of the
netbook laptops.  /etc/make.conf says:

CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu

Is that correct?

- Grant





Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox

2009-02-02 Thread Dale
Sebastian Günther wrote:
 * Stroller (strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk) [01.02.09 00:23]:
   
 On 31 Jan 2009, at 22:54, Grant wrote:

 
 Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
 that's funny.
   
 Oh, what an intelligent machine you've got ;-p
 Did it already point you to Tarpley's biography about Hussein Obama ?
 Or to Obma's connections to Brezinski (the one who wants to get
 China into war against Russia) ?
 
 What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
 election campaign?
   
 IT WAS HUSHED UP BY TEH LIBERAL MEDIA!!!

 WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!


 

 Just a honest question from Germany:

 Which ones are the liberal medias overseas?

 Since from here I wouldn't call anything I know liberal, let alone 
 anything progressive...

 Sebastian

   

If you mean liberal in the USA, NBC being the most, then CNN, CBS and
ABC.  CNN and CBS are about the same and ABC is somewhat better. 
According to some media research folks, BBC is left leaning as well.  I
have watched it a few times and saw no reason to disagree. 

The hard part is finding a source for the facts so a person can make
their own decisions.  For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had
then along came Fox.  The old media seemed to think the people are all
stupid and needed someone to make decisions for them instead of
realizing that most Americans are smart enough to do their own
thinking.  Of course, that is also why Fox has more viewers than CNN, 
MSNBC and the rest combined. 

Hope that answered your question.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3 is missing after portage update but required by the system configuration

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:37:51 +0200, Dimitris Kavadas wrote:

 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3.
 (dependency required by
 net-wireless/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1-r2 [installed]) (dependency
 required by world [argument])
 
 So, what seems to be the problem?

Try kdebluetooth-1.0_beta8, it's been in the tree for more than
three months (emerged on 20-11-08 here) and causes no such problem.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar.


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Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
 Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote:
 Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?

Nexuiz seems petty blood free...
But I have integrated graphics, so I haven't been able to turn the
effects all the way on (or use a resolution  800x600)

Pariksheet



Re: [gentoo-user] Instaling KDE 4.2, second attempt...

2009-02-02 Thread Philip Webb
090203 Robin Atwood wrote:
 I have a completely current 3.5.10 system running, so I thought
 I would get a situation where I could choose which system to login to.
 I get my original KDM 3.5 login screen and no new options
 and when I login I do get my original desktop environment,
 albeit with corrupt konqueror tool bars.
 Any ideas how to enable KDM 4.2 and get the new desktop? 

The simple way is to boot into a raw console,
then 'startx' with your choice of  ~/.xinitrc .
I would never use a GUI login, it's just another thing to trip you up.

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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] Instaling KDE 4.2, second attempt...

2009-02-02 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 03 Feb 2009, Robin Atwood wrote:
 No the problem was that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is not the same as restarting
 xdm. Doing that, I got the new login screen.

Next problem. I am compiling @kdepim-4.2 and it fails because it can't find 
KdepimLibs_CONFIG. I saw this before with nepomuk. Searching seems to imply 
you need cmake-2.6.2 (I have 2.6.2-r1), so shouldn't everyone hit it? Anyone 
any idea about this?


-- Found KDE 4.2 include dir: /usr/include
-- Found KDE 4.2 library dir: /usr/lib64
-- Found the KDE4 kconfig_compiler preprocessor: /usr/bin/kconfig_compiler
-- Found automoc4: /usr/bin/automoc4
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:57 
(MESSAGE):
  Could NOT find KdepimLibs (missing: KdepimLibs_CONFIG)
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindKdepimLibs.cmake:73 
(find_package_handle_standard_args)
  CMakeLists.txt:17 (find_package)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Stroller


On 2 Feb 2009, at 22:52, Miernik wrote:

!!! Invalid PORTDIR_OVERLAY (not a dir): '/usr/portage/local/layman/ 
java-overlay'


Have you tried removing that from your make.conf?

Stroller.





Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Tom
I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)

I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
derived from that engine also has the option!?

Tom



Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
 I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
 And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)

 I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
 derived from that engine also has the option!?

 Tom


Ok, I'll clarify further: without kill them! :-)



[gentoo-user] ENTER doesn't work in google.com?

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Am I going crazy?  In google.com, when I enter a search query and press 
ENTER, nothing happens.  Note: only on the *English* google.com.  You 
get there by clicking the Google.com in English link.  It's this:


  http://www.google.com/ncr

Does the ENTER key work for anyone?  I'm on Firefox 3.0.5.  Konqeuror 
has no problem.





[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:

I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)

I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
derived from that engine also has the option!?

Tom



Ok, I'll clarify further: without kill them! :-)


Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS 
Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)





Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Kenneth Prugh
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:20:24 +0300
Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
  I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
  And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)
 
  I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
  derived from that engine also has the option!?
 
  Tom
 
 
 Ok, I'll clarify further: without kill them! :-)
 

It may not be an fps, but I recommend checking out
games-strategy/hedgewars  if you haven't already.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
 Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)

Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related to 3D 
reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D) games for 
little boy, are not they?




[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)


Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related to 3D 
reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D) games for 
little boy, are not they?


The only ones I can think of are for Windows, unfortunately. :P




Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:26:58 Kenneth Prugh wrote:


 It may not be an fps, but I recommend checking out
 games-strategy/hedgewars  if you haven't already.


Thanks, is wgetting just now.



[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)


Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related to 3D 
reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D) games for 
little boy, are not they?


Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend World of 
Goo.  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version available.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related
  to 3D reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed,
  used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D)
  games for little boy, are not they?

 Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend World of
 Goo.  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
 available.

My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the 
portage tree :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Miernik
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 
 On 2 Feb 2009, at 22:52, Miernik wrote:
 
 !!! Invalid PORTDIR_OVERLAY (not a dir): '/usr/portage/local/layman/ 
 java-overlay'
 
 Have you tried removing that from your make.conf?

Yes, no effect:

przehyba ~ # revdep-rebuild -i
 * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

 * Checking reverse dependencies
 * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
 * will be emerged.

 * Collecting system binaries and libraries
 * Generated new 1_files.rr
 * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr
 * Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 29% ]  *   broken /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 (requires 
libqt-mt.so.3)
[ 100% ]
 * Generated new 3_broken.rr
 * Assigning files to packages
 *   /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 - 
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs
 * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr
 * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild
 * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr
 * Assigning packages to ebuilds
 * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr
 * Evaluating package order

 *
 * Portage could not find any version of the following packages it could build:
 *  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs:0
 *
 * (Perhaps they are masked, blocked, or removed from portage.)
 * Try to emerge them manually.
 *
 * Warning: Portage cannot rebuild any of the necessary packages.
przehyba ~ # 





[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Miernik
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 
 On 2 Feb 2009, at 22:52, Miernik wrote:
 
 !!! Invalid PORTDIR_OVERLAY (not a dir): '/usr/portage/local/layman/ 
 java-overlay'
 
 Have you tried removing that from your make.conf?

And after restarting squash_portage (no idea why it didn't start before)
it even built that sound thing:

 * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

 * Checking reverse dependencies
 * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
 * will be emerged.

 * Collecting system binaries and libraries
 * Generated new 1_files.rr
 * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr
 * Checking dynamic linking consistency
[ 29% ]  *   broken /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 (requires 
libqt-mt.so.3)
[ 100% ]
 * Generated new 3_broken.rr
 * Assigning files to packages
 *   /usr/kde/3.5/lib32/libqtmcop.so.1.0.0 - 
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs
 * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr
 * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild
 * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr
 * Assigning packages to ebuilds
 * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr
 * Evaluating package order
 * Generated new 5_order.rr
 * All prepared. Starting rebuild
emerge --oneshot  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs:0
..
Calculating dependencies... done!

 Verifying ebuild manifests

 Emerging (1 of 1) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418
 * emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...

[ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...

[ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...   

[ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...  

[ ok ]
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418.tar.bz2 to 
 /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418/work
mv: cannot stat 
var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418/work/usr/bin/esddsp':
 No such file or directory
 Source unpacked.
 Compiling source in 
 /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418/work ...
 Source compiled.
 Test phase [not enabled]: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418

 Install emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418 into 
 /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418/image/ 
 category app-emulation
 Completed installing emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418 into 
 /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418/image/


 Installing app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.

 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

 * IMPORTANT: 3 config files in '/etc' need updating.
 * See the CONFIGURATION FILES section of the emerge
 * man page to learn how to update config files.
 * Build finished correctly. Removing temporary files...
 *
 * You can re-run revdep-rebuild to verify that all libraries and binaries
 * are fixed. If some inconsistency remains, it can be orphaned file, deep
 * dependency, binary package or specially evaluated library.
przehyba ~ # 


But it didn't fix anything:

mier...@przehyba ~ $ gnumeric
gnumeric: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.8.4.so:
undefined symbol: g_dgettext
mier...@przehyba ~ $ ssh mier...@ogai.org
ssh: Could not resolve hostname ogai.org: Name or service not known
mier...@przehyba ~ $ ping ogai.org
PING ogai.org (85.25.152.157) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from india854 (85.25.152.157): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=1165 ms
64 bytes from india854 (85.25.152.157): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=391 ms
^C
--- ogai.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 391.952/778.779/1165.606/386.827 ms, pipe 2
mier...@przehyba ~ $ 

How can ping resolve a host, and ssh not?




[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Miernik wrote:


Before I had ~amd64 in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, but in the middle of this
upgrade I thought it was a bad idea, because many programs failed to
compile, so I removed that from make.conf, and did run
'emerge --empty-tree world'
which downgraded everything back to stable. But one thing I couldn't
downgrade was glibc which stayed at version
sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1

XTerm is not using my ~/.Xresources settings.

Is there any way I can possibly fix my system?


The only thing I can recommend is rebuilding system, and then rebuilding 
world to make sure everything is rebuilt using the same toolchain, 
including the toolchain itself.  Pretty much the same as installing from 
scratch though, but at least you won't have to configure everything again.


I suspect changing ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the middle was not a good idea.




[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo messed up after upgrade

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

[...]
The only thing I can recommend is rebuilding system, and then rebuilding 
world to make sure everything is rebuilt using the same toolchain, 
including the toolchain itself.  Pretty much the same as installing from 
scratch though, but at least you won't have to configure everything again.


I suspect changing ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the middle was not a good idea.


Another thing.  Since you're now on glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1, before you 
rebuild system and world, make sure to upgrade your kernel to 2.6.28-r1 
and also upgrade to linux-headers-2.6.28-r1.  Rebuild 
glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1 after that and reboot.  If that won't help, 
continue with the plan of rebuilding system and world :P


I've had mysterious issues when running newest glibc with older kernels 
and linux-headers that were similar to yours.





[gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-02 Thread Dirk Uys
Hi

I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0
ebuild fails:

Scanning dependencies of target kdeinit_kxkb
[ 23%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kdeinit_kxkb_automoc.o
[ 24%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/rules.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../lib/kcm_keyboard_layout.so
CMakeFiles/kcm_keyboard_layout.dir/x11helper.o: In function
`X11Helper::registerForNewDeviceEvent(_XDisplay*)':
x11helper.cpp:(.text+0x21): undefined reference to
`_XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent(_XDisplay*)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/kcm_keyboard_layout.so] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kcm_keyboard_layout.dir/all]
Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
[ 24%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkbconfig.o
[ 24%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/extension.o
[ 25%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/x11helper.o
[ 25%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/pixmap.o
[ 26%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/xklavier_adaptor.o
[ 26%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkbcore.o
[ 27%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/layoutmap.o
[ 27%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkbapp.o
[ 27%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkbwidget.o
[ 28%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkb_adaptor.o
[ 28%] Building CXX object
kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kxkb_part.o
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0/work/systemsettings-4.2.0/kcontrol/kxkb/kxkb_part.cpp:37:
warning: unused parameter 'args'
Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libkdeinit4_kxkb.so
CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/x11helper.o: In function
`X11Helper::registerForNewDeviceEvent(_XDisplay*)':
x11helper.cpp:(.text+0x21): undefined reference to
`_XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent(_XDisplay*)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/libkdeinit4_kxkb.so] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

I have the latest version of libXi (1.2.0). I tried searching the net,
but the only answer I got was that some guy on the kde forums had the
same problem and resolved it by installing the latest version of libXi
from the repository.

Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2?

Regards
Dirk



[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Dirk Uys wrote:

[...]
Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2?


No problems here on AMD64.  I didn't use anything outside portage.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related
  to 3D reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed,
  used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D)
  games for little boy, are not they?

 Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend World of
 Goo.  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
 available.

 My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the
 portage tree :-)

You probably know them already but tuxracer, frozen-bubble,
neverball/neverputt are fun 3D games for adults or kids and don't have
any violence or killing :) I dunno what is good for a 7-year-old kid
but I think any of those should be easy to learn. lincity is not 3D if
I remember but it's also fun no-violence game. Maybe it's too advanced
for a kid of that age.



Re: [gentoo-user] ENTER doesn't work in google.com?

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 Am I going crazy?  In google.com, when I enter a search query and press
 ENTER, nothing happens.  Note: only on the *English* google.com.  You get
 there by clicking the Google.com in English link.  It's this:

  http://www.google.com/ncr

 Does the ENTER key work for anyone?  I'm on Firefox 3.0.5.  Konqeuror has no
 problem.

Works for me.



[gentoo-user] Re: ENTER doesn't work in google.com?

2009-02-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

Am I going crazy?  In google.com, when I enter a search query and press
ENTER, nothing happens.  Note: only on the *English* google.com.  You get
there by clicking the Google.com in English link.  It's this:

 http://www.google.com/ncr

Does the ENTER key work for anyone?  I'm on Firefox 3.0.5.  Konqeuror has no
problem.


Works for me.


Then I guess the next question is, what's wrong here? :P




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 09:08:31 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
   Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is
   related to 3D reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are
   needed, used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty
   (rich 3D) games for little boy, are not they?
 
  Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend World of
  Goo.  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
  available.
 
  My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the
  portage tree :-)

 You probably know them already but tuxracer, frozen-bubble,
 neverball/neverputt are fun 3D games for adults or kids and don't have
 any violence or killing :) I dunno what is good for a 7-year-old kid
 but I think any of those should be easy to learn. lincity is not 3D if
 I remember but it's also fun no-violence game. Maybe it's too advanced
 for a kid of that age.

Paul,

Thanks for the list! - will dig in. All the names are new to me as far as I 
don't play games.


Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-02 Thread Dirk Uys
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote:

 Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related to 3D
 reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told
 about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D) games for
 little boy, are not they?

I would recommend Tower Toppler (http://toppler.sourceforge.net/) and
Kiki The Nanobot (http://kiki.sourceforge.net/). I think both of them
are in the portage tree. I enjoyed playing them alot and according to
some the differences between me and a 7 year old is not that big :)

Regards
Dirk