Re: [gentoo-user] Re: netbook

2010-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:33:13 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

   Do *NOT* get a machine with a Poulsbo video chip.

Seconded. I bought a Dell Mini 10 - lovely keyboard and display but
the GMA500 video chip sucked, as did the Broadcom wireless that needed
out of kernel drivers. It wasn't just the inconvenience, the thing kept
locking up. I believe later Dell Minis, like the 10v, have the GMA950
chip, which is a proper Intel chip, but still Broadcom wireless.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Pepperami. Its a bit of an animal.
What animal  what bit?


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Re: [gentoo-user] MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE

2010-11-11 Thread dhk
On 11/10/2010 06:45 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:35:20 -0500, dhk wrote:
 
 Lately I've been getting this MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE error.  It only happens
 when I'm logged into my home amd64 box from my office x86 box.  I use
 ssh -X ip.add.res.s to log in.
 
 Have you tried using -Y instead of -X?
 
 

I haven't tried -Y, but I'll give it a shot when I get to the office.
However, shouldn't -X work?  It's been working all along.

Thanks,

--dhk



Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit-Executables on a AMD64 system...

2010-11-11 Thread Coert Waagmeester

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

* Coert Waagmeester lgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote:


My setup is one 32bit pc with gentoo and another 64bit pc with gentoo

I managed to get this going on the 64bit with a 32-bit chroot, distcc, 
and crosstools


Why do you need an 32bit chroot if you're going to use an
crosscompiler anyways ?

You are right, I only have distcc in the 32bit chroot, it ofcourse 
already has the 32bit gcc et al.


I have a 64bit crossdev setup on my 32 bit machine. that is where the 
confusion came in.
Just make sure you compiled your kernel with IA32 binary support (should 
be default)


The _target_ kernel has to support the IA32 ABI. The host (building)
might be better off w/o it (better detection of build errors).

How would this work exactly?
64 bit only installation with a 32 bit crossdev installation?



cu





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 11 November 2010, Dale wrote:

 I just checked again, it is still working.  I'm liking that I can watch
 a video whenever I want instead of when it decides to work.  ;-)

I also have good news to report. I upgraded to Qt 4.7.0 and my xserver is a 
reformed character! It sits and chugs away at 1.0% CPU like it used to with 
Qt/KDE 3.5. No other graphics related packages were updated at the same time, 
so it's definitely Qt which made the difference.

HTH
-Robin
-- 
--
Robin Atwood.

Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
 Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst
 from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling
--











Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync question

2010-11-11 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 the following behaviour of rsync puzzles me.

 I have the following situation

 Source/A                this is a symlink !

 Dest/A                  this is a real directory


 now
 cd Dest/A
 rsync -auHz -ni --rsh=ssh --delete --exclude='/A/' source
 machine:Source/ .

 shows that it's going to delete the folder Dest/A

 Can anybody please explain me why?

I'm not clear on some of your details, but perhaps you could try
putting full paths to the dirs/files in your script, including the
destination dir. Also, remember that '/A' and '/A/' are not the same
wrt the source.

g'luck



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:39 on Thursday 11 November 2010, Robin 
Atwood did opine thusly:

 On Thursday 11 November 2010, Dale wrote:
  I just checked again, it is still working.  I'm liking that I can watch
  a video whenever I want instead of when it decides to work.  ;-)
 
 I also have good news to report. I upgraded to Qt 4.7.0 and my xserver is a
 reformed character! It sits and chugs away at 1.0% CPU like it used to with
 Qt/KDE 3.5. No other graphics related packages were updated at the same
 time, so it's definitely Qt which made the difference.


So I wasn't imagining things :-)

I noticed the same and it seems even a bit better with the very latest 
qt-4.7.1. Some time ago I read a blog post about KDE and plasma, where stuff 
will be rewritten for kde-4.6. I can't find it now, it might have been on 
kde.org, slashdot or even the gentoo planet but it was by that Aaron fellow. 
He also said that there were speedups possible in Qt as well. 

Seems like we are now getting some of that benefit.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code

2010-11-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-11, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Grant, you need to stop being paranoid. ?I am surprised you even
 worked up the courage to let slip on here, in public, that you even
 have a sooper dooper sekrit project.

 This seems to be the general consensus.  You see, I don't have a
 computer science degree and about 75% of what I know about Linux I
 learned on this list.  Apparently this idea of mine is not a good
 one.

 The sekrit isn't really a secret, it's just a mature piece of
 ordinary software.  Most if not all of you wouldn't be interested in
 receiving it for free, but people in the right industry would like to
 have it and I'd like to keep it for myself.  Surely there is room for
 private software even in an open source world.

 So it's either trust your coders or do it yourself?

Yup, pretty much.

 My budget is small and the coders I can afford are outside of the US.
 I'd be working with them via chat, email, or phone.  Should I feel OK
 about turning my source over to them?

Yes, if you deal with reputable companies or individuals who's
references you can verify.  If you're dealing with random individuals,
then maybe.

 Should I only hire coders I can sit in the same room with?

That will probably work best, but it will cost more.

Have you ever managed a programming team before?

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Am I in Milwaukee?
  at   
  gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Colors of the USE flags in emerge --pretend

2010-11-11 Thread Bill Longman
On 11/10/2010 12:54 PM, KH wrote:
 Am 10.11.2010 21:37, schrieb Benyamin Dvoskin:
 Hi ,

 When running emerge -p for some package , one gets for each dependency
 and package a list of USE flags at the end of the line.
 some are colored in red , some blue

 what are the differences ?

Yellow means that a use flag has changed. Sometimes they get added,
sometimes they're removed, so these will trigger an update if you use
emerge -N. For example, the radeonhd flag just went away, so mesa came
up as (-radeonhd%). It was in parenthesis because, in essence, I have
no control over it -- it's gone for good -- and it's - because it was
removed. The % just tells you it's a flag change.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

Apparently, though unproven, at 14:39 on Thursday 11 November 2010, Robin
Atwood did opine thusly:

   

On Thursday 11 November 2010, Dale wrote:
 

I just checked again, it is still working.  I'm liking that I can watch
a video whenever I want instead of when it decides to work.  ;-)
   

I also have good news to report. I upgraded to Qt 4.7.0 and my xserver is a
reformed character! It sits and chugs away at 1.0% CPU like it used to with
Qt/KDE 3.5. No other graphics related packages were updated at the same
time, so it's definitely Qt which made the difference.
 


So I wasn't imagining things :-)

I noticed the same and it seems even a bit better with the very latest
qt-4.7.1. Some time ago I read a blog post about KDE and plasma, where stuff
will be rewritten for kde-4.6. I can't find it now, it might have been on
kde.org, slashdot or even the gentoo planet but it was by that Aaron fellow.
He also said that there were speedups possible in Qt as well.

Seems like we are now getting some of that benefit.

   


Well, I'm on qt-4.7 so I guess I got that already.  I have noticed that 
KDE is getting a little faster tho.  I guess they are tightening up the 
code a bit.


I did a test just then and my video was slow again.  This is what I get 
now.


r...@smoker / # glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
677 frames in 5.6 seconds = 120.183 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 8.2 seconds =  0.122 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.131 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server 
:0.0

  after 46 requests (46 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
r...@smoker / #


So, looks like emerge -e world didn't help after all.  So what should I 
check now?  Do I need to get my hammer out?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:


I did a test just then and my video was slow again.  This is what I 
get now.


r...@smoker / # glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
677 frames in 5.6 seconds = 120.183 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 8.2 seconds =  0.122 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.131 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server 
:0.0

  after 46 requests (46 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
r...@smoker / #


So, looks like emerge -e world didn't help after all.  So what should 
I check now?  Do I need to get my hammer out?


Dale

:-)  :-)



False alarm.  I looked at top and noticed that that stupid hp-systray 
was using about 90% of my CPU.  I killed that thing and now it plays 
fine again.


I do wish they would fix that thing.  For some reason hp-systray does 
that from time to time.  It is usually after dbus has a hiccup.  Logging 
out of KDE and back in again usually fixes it tho.


Anyway, back to normal.  Well, normal for me anyway.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Laptop battery not showing up in KDE, Smart Battery calibration

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Petri Rosenström
petri.rosenst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Paul Hartman
 2) If I click on the Power Management in the KDE system settings, it
 says Number of CPUs 0 Number of batteries 0 and battery-related
 options are greyed out. Since battery monitoring does not work, I have
 no idea how much battery life is left and have no warning when it
 suddenly shuts down, causing filesystem corruption and who knows what
 other problems.

 I would guess that you are missing either hal or solid?

Hi,

hal and solid both exist, hal is running and can see my battery.
Everything looks normal from there as far as I can tell.

My battery is BAT1, not BAT0. I wonder if that has anything to do with
it. Seems most things I found on Google reference BAT0.

Maybe I should try a KDE LiveCD to see if it can read battery. If it
can, I will know for sure it's a simple configuration problem
somewhere in my Gentoo installation.



Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Laptop battery not showing up in KDE, Smart Battery calibration

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 Has anyone tried to replace the cells inside their own battery? I'm
 reading this site:
 http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/Li_Ion_reconstruct/

 Seems kind of dangerous... I can't price the cells because I haven't
 opened my battery pack, so I don't know if it's really any cheaper
 than buying a new one.

 Actually, it is dangerous and I wouldn't trust the batterypack anywhere near
 my laptop after a procedure like that.

 If the soldering isn't done correctly, the battery-pack can literally explode
 when put under load.

Yeah, I don't think the savings would be big enough to justify the risk.

I found a replacement battery online for less than USD$30 so I ordered
it. Hopefully it fits and holds a charge. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code

2010-11-11 Thread Grant
 Grant, you need to stop being paranoid. ?I am surprised you even
 worked up the courage to let slip on here, in public, that you even
 have a sooper dooper sekrit project.

 This seems to be the general consensus.  You see, I don't have a
 computer science degree and about 75% of what I know about Linux I
 learned on this list.  Apparently this idea of mine is not a good
 one.

 The sekrit isn't really a secret, it's just a mature piece of
 ordinary software.  Most if not all of you wouldn't be interested in
 receiving it for free, but people in the right industry would like to
 have it and I'd like to keep it for myself.  Surely there is room for
 private software even in an open source world.

 So it's either trust your coders or do it yourself?

 Yup, pretty much.

 My budget is small and the coders I can afford are outside of the US.
 I'd be working with them via chat, email, or phone.  Should I feel OK
 about turning my source over to them?

 Yes, if you deal with reputable companies or individuals who's
 references you can verify.  If you're dealing with random individuals,
 then maybe.

 Should I only hire coders I can sit in the same room with?

 That will probably work best, but it will cost more.

 Have you ever managed a programming team before?

I haven't.  Any pointers?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: netbook

2010-11-11 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:56, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:33:13 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

Do *NOT* get a machine with a Poulsbo video chip.

 Seconded. I bought a Dell Mini 10 - lovely keyboard and display but
 the GMA500 video chip sucked, as did the Broadcom wireless that needed
 out of kernel drivers. It wasn't just the inconvenience, the thing kept
 locking up. I believe later Dell Minis, like the 10v, have the GMA950
 chip, which is a proper Intel chip, but still Broadcom wireless.


Had problems with such hardware (some MSI netbooks) like Graphics and
Wireless.
An Asus EEE solved most issues, the only one remaining is the battery that
reports remaining capacity in percentage instead of mwh, everything else
works great. I had an old EEE 701, switched to a 900, and so far, I don't
see a reson to upgrade.

I like SSDs mostly cause I can (and have) drop my netbook from a certain
height, or thrown my bag in the sofa (forgetting it was inside, and on) and
never worry about my HDD failing. Also, less power, noise, heat, and some
(not very big) read speed improve. Besides, its a netbook, its supposed to
be a small storage, fast and simple device. I carry a backup of the whole
system (Dual boot XP and Ubuntu NR) with me in a pendrive. I used to run
Gentoo on it, worked great, I'm planning on installing Gentoo and ditching
UNR, but that will take some time.

Anyway, my brother have an 1000H, and that works great too with Linux.
-- 
Daniel da Veiga


Re: [gentoo-user] MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE

2010-11-11 Thread Alex Schuster
dhk writes:

 On 11/10/2010 06:45 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:35:20 -0500, dhk wrote:
  Lately I've been getting this MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE error.  It only
  happens when I'm logged into my home amd64 box from my office x86
  box.  I use ssh -X ip.add.res.s to log in.
  
  Have you tried using -Y instead of -X?
 
 I haven't tried -Y, but I'll give it a shot when I get to the office.
 However, shouldn't -X work?  It's been working all along.

-Y enables trusted forwarding. I'm no expert here, but I think that this 
could enable enable remote applications to read your screen or capture 
keystrokes. On the other hand, several applications do not work in 
untrusted mode (-X) and need the -Y option. But in these cases you get 
messages like these:

X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)

Resource id in failed request: 0x61
Serial number of failed request: 17
Current serial number in output stream: 18

Your problem seems to be another one. Trying -Y will do no harm, but I 
don't think it will help here.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Laptop battery not showing up in KDE, Smart Battery calibration

2010-11-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 11 November 2010 18:07:35 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
  If the soldering isn't done correctly, the battery-pack can literally
  explode when put under load.
 
 Yeah, I don't think the savings would be big enough to justify the risk.
 
 I found a replacement battery online for less than USD$30 so I ordered
 it. Hopefully it fits and holds a charge. :)

Good luck :)
If laptops would work with the same LIPO-packs that are used for Remote 
Control planes, then it would be cheaper and easier as the chargers used for 
those are better then the stuff they stick in laptops.

But that's wishfull thinking

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:49 on Thursday 11 November 2010, Dale did 
opine thusly:

 Dale wrote:
  I did a test just then and my video was slow again.  This is what I
  get now.
  
  r...@smoker / # glxgears
  Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
  approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
  677 frames in 5.6 seconds = 120.183 FPS
  1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
  1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
  1 frames in 8.2 seconds =  0.122 FPS
  1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.131 FPS
  1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
  XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server
  :0.0
  
after 46 requests (46 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
  
  r...@smoker / #
  
  
  So, looks like emerge -e world didn't help after all.  So what should
  I check now?  Do I need to get my hammer out?
  
  Dale
  
  :-)  :-)
 
 False alarm.  I looked at top and noticed that that stupid hp-systray
 was using about 90% of my CPU.  I killed that thing and now it plays
 fine again.
 
 I do wish they would fix that thing.  For some reason hp-systray does
 that from time to time.  It is usually after dbus has a hiccup.  Logging
 out of KDE and back in again usually fixes it tho.
 
 Anyway, back to normal.  Well, normal for me anyway.  ;-)

Whatever hp-systray is, I'd dump it.

When a single app or feature kills the entire machine and it's ability to draw 
on the screen, it's time to find a way to do without the app.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Grant, you need to stop being paranoid.  I am surprised you even
 worked up the courage to let slip on here, in public, that you even
 have a sooper dooper sekrit project.

 This seems to be the general consensus.  You see, I don't have a
 computer science degree and about 75% of what I know about Linux I
 learned on this list.  Apparently this idea of mine is not a good one.

I don't think it's a bad idea, I can certainly understand your fears.
It may not be a realistic idea to implement, but it's certainly
understandable. Since we have no idea about the nature of your program
or the work that you're hoping to have done it is hard to give any
kind of specific advice. If you're hiring someone to work on one
specific part, you may be able to split that off from the main program
(for example a UI designer or someone writing a file import function,
or whatever). If you're looking for someone to basically take over the
whole project then it'll probably be impossible to hide anything from
them.

I think any kind of owner/manager of a small business who is growing
to the point where 1 guy can't do it all himself anymore has these
same concerns and reservations about letting go some of the control
and trusting another worker to take over a part of it without stealing
or ruining it. Ultimately, I think it comes down to finding someone
that you feel comfortable with and whom you feel is trustworthy. Of
course, check references, check feedback online, etc.

 So it's either trust your coders or do it yourself?  My budget is
 small and the coders I can afford are outside of the US.  I'd be
 working with them via chat, email, or phone.  Should I feel OK about
 turning my source over to them?  Should I only hire coders I can sit
 in the same room with?

Workers sitting in the same room as you can steal your company data
just the same.

I think the odds are in your favor, most people in the world are
honest and hard-working.

Good luck! :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread pk
On 2010-11-10 20:24, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 I am a little confused.
 I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
 When started, it complains of not finding swing.
 As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
 Is it? Or what can trigger this message?

If I remember correctly, swing is the gui package of (sun?) java. Not
sure if it gets installed by default (I haven't done any java coding for
quite a while). Or it may be that your java path needs updating...

HTH

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote:
 Lately I've been getting this MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE error.  It only happens
 when I'm logged into my home amd64 box from my office x86 box.  I use
 ssh -X ip.add.res.s to log in.  Everything seems to work and save fine
 except for the error message and not being able to run an x-application
 remotely.

 The first error occurs when I try to run an x-application remotely.
 $ jpilot
 Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 (jpilot:16276): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:11.0

 The second error occurs after I exit a file from a text editor.
 $ vi file.txt
 Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

 I've been doing this for years without any problems and this probably
 started in the last month or so.

 I've seen a few things on line, but nothing that looks right.  I also
 don't want to run the xhost+ command.

 Any ideas?

I think you need to use xauth to check the permissions. Did your
remote machine name or something else like that significantly change
recently?



Re: [gentoo-user] Colors of the USE flags in emerge --pretend

2010-11-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 22:01:33 Benyamin Dvoskin wrote:
 sure
 sorry about the HTML ... :)

aheam! and no top posting ...

-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE

2010-11-11 Thread dhk
On 11/11/2010 04:42 PM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote:
 Lately I've been getting this MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE error.  It only happens
 when I'm logged into my home amd64 box from my office x86 box.  I use
 ssh -X ip.add.res.s to log in.  Everything seems to work and save fine
 except for the error message and not being able to run an x-application
 remotely.

 The first error occurs when I try to run an x-application remotely.
 $ jpilot
 Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 (jpilot:16276): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:11.0

 The second error occurs after I exit a file from a text editor.
 $ vi file.txt
 Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

 I've been doing this for years without any problems and this probably
 started in the last month or so.

 I've seen a few things on line, but nothing that looks right.  I also
 don't want to run the xhost+ command.

 Any ideas?
 
 I think you need to use xauth to check the permissions. Did your
 remote machine name or something else like that significantly change
 recently?
 
 


Very good, the -Y option worked, but I'm still confused why the -X
stopped working.  I suspect it has to do with the openssl update a few
weeks ago on the x86 box at the office.  After that update my ssh
sessions were timing out, also, even though I have Client ans Server
Alive's set in sshd_config and ssh_config.

Thanks,

--dhk




Re: [gentoo-user] Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread meino . cramer
pk pete...@coolmail.se [10-11-12 00:50]:
 On 2010-11-10 20:24, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  I am a little confused.
  I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
  When started, it complains of not finding swing.
  As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
  Is it? Or what can trigger this message?
 
 If I remember correctly, swing is the gui package of (sun?) java. Not
 sure if it gets installed by default (I haven't done any java coding for
 quite a while). Or it may be that your java path needs updating...
 
 HTH
 
 Best regards
 
 Peter K
 

Hi Peter,

thanks for your reply!

Unfortunately I have no knowledge about java. 

I would be very happy, if someone could me a hint, 
how to make SuperCollider finding an using Swing.

How can I make Swing accessible for SuperCollider?

Best regards
mcc




[gentoo-user] Re: Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/10/2010 09:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

I am a little confused.
I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
When started, it complains of not finding swing.
As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
Is it? Or what can trigger this message?
Best regards,
mcc


There's a media-sound/supercollider package in the pro-audio overlay. 
You can add the overlay with layman and emerge that package.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-11 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

Apparently, though unproven, at 18:49 on Thursday 11 November 2010, Dale did
opine thusly:

   

Dale wrote:
 

I did a test just then and my video was slow again.  This is what I
get now.

r...@smoker / # glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
677 frames in 5.6 seconds = 120.183 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
1 frames in 8.2 seconds =  0.122 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.131 FPS
1 frames in 7.6 seconds =  0.132 FPS
XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server
:0.0

   after 46 requests (46 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

r...@smoker / #


So, looks like emerge -e world didn't help after all.  So what should
I check now?  Do I need to get my hammer out?

Dale

:-)  :-)
   

False alarm.  I looked at top and noticed that that stupid hp-systray
was using about 90% of my CPU.  I killed that thing and now it plays
fine again.

I do wish they would fix that thing.  For some reason hp-systray does
that from time to time.  It is usually after dbus has a hiccup.  Logging
out of KDE and back in again usually fixes it tho.

Anyway, back to normal.  Well, normal for me anyway.  ;-)
 

Whatever hp-systray is, I'd dump it.

When a single app or feature kills the entire machine and it's ability to draw
on the screen, it's time to find a way to do without the app.

   


Well, it makes my printer print.  That's what I *think* anyway.  I may 
not need it anymore.  I need to check on that.  It has been doing that 
once in a blue moon for a long time.  Usually, it is after I upgrade 
dbus and the config file changes and I haven't restarted both dbus and 
KDE.  There seems to be some sort of clash between the two, or three, 
and the race is on and my CPU is the gas pedal.  I didn't pay much 
attention this very last time but once before it was dbus, hp-systray 
and something KDE that was fighting.  Bad thing is, it started last 
night and raced all night long and I didn't notice it.  My eyes were 
closed.  I'm trying to run folding since it is cool now and it wasted 
all my folding time on worthless crap.  :-@


I just wish it would suicide itself instead of making my CPU go nuts.  
Glad I have a HUGE CPU heat sink too.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread meino . cramer
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de [10-11-12 01:20]:
 On 11/10/2010 09:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a little confused.
 I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
 When started, it complains of not finding swing.
 As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
 Is it? Or what can trigger this message?
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 There's a media-sound/supercollider package in the pro-audio overlay. 
 You can add the overlay with layman and emerge that package.
 
 

Does it install Swing / make Swing available on my box ?

Best regards,
mcc





[gentoo-user] Re: Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 11/12/2010 05:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  [10-11-12 01:20]:

On 11/10/2010 09:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

I am a little confused.
I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
When started, it complains of not finding swing.
As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
Is it? Or what can trigger this message?
Best regards,
mcc


There's a media-sound/supercollider package in the pro-audio overlay.
You can add the overlay with layman and emerge that package.




Does it install Swing / make Swing available on my box ?


I've no idea.  I once had to write a small Java app that uses Swing, and 
I was able to use it without anything special, as long as 
dev-java/sun-jdk was installed.


So in other words, either there's a bug in SC, or it needs an 
older/newer JDK than the one you have installed.


Anyway, I thought the point of Java was to not having to compile 
anything; doesn't SC provide ready to run binaries?  Do those work?





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Swing !

2010-11-11 Thread meino . cramer
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de [10-11-12 04:40]:
 On 11/12/2010 05:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  [10-11-12 01:20]:
 On 11/10/2010 09:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a little confused.
 I am compiled SuperCollider3 from source.
 When started, it complains of not finding swing.
 As far as I know, Swing is part of the java sdk.
 Is it? Or what can trigger this message?
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 There's a media-sound/supercollider package in the pro-audio overlay.
 You can add the overlay with layman and emerge that package.
 
 
 
 Does it install Swing / make Swing available on my box ?
 
 I've no idea.  I once had to write a small Java app that uses Swing, 
 and I was able to use it without anything special, as long as 
 dev-java/sun-jdk was installed.
 
 So in other words, either there's a bug in SC, or it needs an 
 older/newer JDK than the one you have installed.
 
 Anyway, I thought the point of Java was to not having to compile 
 anything; doesn't SC provide ready to run binaries?  Do those work?
 
 

I installed the dev-java/sun-jdk and logout/login but it does not
change anything.
Will check binaries of SC if available...

Best regards,
mcc