[gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread covici
Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy net-libs/xulrunner:1.9.
(dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument])

I have xulrunner 2.0 installed, although it looks like nothing depends
on that package, so I am not sure what is going on.  I looked at
/var/lib/portage/preserved-rebuild-registrybut can't find xulrunner
anywhere in that file.  How can I proceed?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic Intensive IPSec Tunnel

2013-05-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 May 2013 03:37:48 Nick Khamis wrote:
 Thanks yet again Michael! Enjoy your weekend.
 
 N.
 
 On 5/11/13, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 05/11/2013 03:13 PM, Nick Khamis wrote:
  Hello Everyone,
  
  Our service provider requires all connections between us be done
  through IPSec IKE. From the little bit of research, I found that this
  is achieved using a system with IPSec kernel modules enabled, along
  with cryptography modules. On the application level, I saw ipsec tool,
  OpenSWAN, and OpenVPN.
  
  What I was wondering is which should be used for traffic intensive
  connections in a deployment environment. Without starting any OpenVPN
  vs OpenSwan debate, we would really like to keep the application level
  to a minimum. Meaning if we could achieve the tunnel using the
  required kernel modules, ipsec-tools and iptables, we see that as
  keeping it simple and effective.
  
  Your insight, suggested how-to pages are greatly appreciated.
  
  To my knowledge, OpenVPN does not use IPSec. Instead, it encapsulates
  either IP/IPv6 (tun mode) or layer 2 (tap mode) over TLS. If your
  service provider requires IPSec and IKE, best forget about OpenVPN.
  
  http://www.ipsec-howto.org/x304.html
  
  Look under Automatic keyed connections using racoon

If your ISP is using IKEv1 Racoon *should* do what you want, but you may need 
to set up the routes manually.  The up/down scripts in /etc/racoon/scripts do 
not work in my case and I have to set them up with ifconfig and ip.  
Apparently they work if you use xauth, according to this thread:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6977674.html


Instead, I opted for using StrongSwan, which is *much* better documented, 
supports additional ciphers, RADIUS, etc. and allocation of IKEv1 pools using 
a database back end.  More importantly it also works with IKEv2 and MOBIKE.  
With racoon you will have to try racoon2 if you need IKEv2, which was in 
development back in 2010.

You can read a comparison between the *Swans here, but things have moved on 
since; e.g. StrongSwan supports IKEv1 in Aggressive Mode, OpenSwan supports 
part of IKEv2, etc:

  https://lists.strongswan.org/pipermail/users/2010-September/005293.html

Ask if you need particular details in setting up your implementation.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice Compile

2013-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/05/2013 19:53, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hello,
 
 is there a way that i can compile Libreoffice on my Desktop System and 
 copy to the Netbook? Because the netbook need long time to compile 
 libreoffice,
 and the Desktop is little faster. Or can i build a libreoffice Package on 
 Desktop and copy to the netbook?
 
 The Netbook is a Samsung NC 10, Atom Processor and the Desktop is a Fujitsu 
 P4.
 
 
 
 Thank you  Greetings
 Silvio
 

Your desktop is a P4
Your netbook is an Atom

Others have noted how CHOST and CFLAGS must match on both machines,
otherwise the Atom will probably not run P4 code. This will probably be
a huge issue in your life and quite honestly, totally not worth it for
just one package.

Just install app-office/libreoffice-bin on the netbook instead

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 11 May 2013 16:12:52 -0700, walt wrote:

 Dale, you didn't describe the symptoms you're seeing, but maybe
 just seeing how I did it will help:
 
 menuentry memtest86 {
  search -l gentoo64unstable -s root
  linux ($root)/boot/memtest86/memtest
  boot 
 }

I don't know about memtest86, but memtest86+ installs a menu file
in /etc/grub.d, which means grub-mkconfig handles it.

% cat /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+
#!/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0

menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 {
linux16 /boot/memtest86plus/memtest
}

menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 (netbsd) {
insmod bsd
knetbsd /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.netbsd
}


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Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

 Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
 to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:

I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version, it's
generally rock solid for me.

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies   done!
 
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy net-libs/xulrunner:1.9.
 (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument])
 
 I have xulrunner 2.0 installed, although it looks like nothing depends
 on that package, so I am not sure what is going on.  I looked at
 /var/lib/portage/preserved-rebuild-registrybut can't find xulrunner
 anywhere in that file.  How can I proceed?

emerge -cav xulrunner


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Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 
  Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
  to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:
 
 I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version, it's
 generally rock solid for me.
Buy unstable I meant ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64


 
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies   done!
  
  emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy net-libs/xulrunner:1.9.
  (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument])
  
  I have xulrunner 2.0 installed, although it looks like nothing depends
  on that package, so I am not sure what is going on.  I looked at
  /var/lib/portage/preserved-rebuild-registrybut can't find xulrunner
  anywhere in that file.  How can I proceed?
 
 emerge -cav xulrunner
I have no ebuilds for xulrunner at all in the tree. But I will try as
you suggest because there seems to be nothing dependent on it.
Well, that did something good, now its going right along.

Thanks so much -- this is a great mailing list.



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Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 12/05/13 14:29, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:


On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:


Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:


I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version, it's
generally rock solid for me.

Buy unstable I meant ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64


Never, ever add both ~amd64 and ~x86 at the same time in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS.

It's either ~amd64 or ~x86, but not BOTH.

Otherwise you risk breaking the system as ebuilds make assumptions based 
on keywords.




Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread covici
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On 12/05/13 14:29, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 
  Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
  to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:
 
  I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version, it's
  generally rock solid for me.
  Buy unstable I meant ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64
 
 Never, ever add both ~amd64 and ~x86 at the same time in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS.
 
 It's either ~amd64 or ~x86, but not BOTH.
 
 Otherwise you risk breaking the system as ebuilds make assumptions
 based on keywords.

OK, thanks, I will do that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Real qucik question - Copying over kernel configuration for same machines

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Khamis
Thank you!!!

On 5/12/13, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote:
 On 5/11/2013 20:39, Nick Khamis wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 Just running an installation on another IBM machine, and wanted to know
 which kernel config files can we copy over from one machine to another,
 and have the same exact modules etc copied over.
 Saw examples for genkern, but we build our own kernels. After copying the
 files over we like to run make and make modules_install on the new
 machine.


 Thanks in Advance,

 Nick.


 The .config in the kernel source directory.

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Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Philip Webb
130512 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 I am using gentoo unstable ...
 I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version,
 it's generally rock solid for me.
 By unstable I meant ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64

That's 'testing', which usually means the ebuild mb slightly awkward,
but there are no known bugs; if there were, it wb 'masked'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 11 May 2013 16:12:52 -0700, walt wrote:

 Dale, you didn't describe the symptoms you're seeing, but maybe
 just seeing how I did it will help:

 menuentry memtest86 {
  search -l gentoo64unstable -s root
  linux ($root)/boot/memtest86/memtest
  boot
 }

 I don't know about memtest86, but memtest86+ installs a menu file
 in /etc/grub.d, which means grub-mkconfig handles it.

 % cat /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+
 #!/bin/sh
 exec tail -n +3 $0

 menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 {
 linux16 /boot/memtest86plus/memtest
 }

 menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 (netbsd) {
 insmod bsd
 knetbsd /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.netbsd
 }




That is what I did last.  I just emerged the thing and it put the file
there.  You know I don't reboot often here but this is what it says when
I update grub:

root@fireball / # /root/grub-update
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.8.7-1
Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.6.6-1
Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.5.3-3
done
root@fireball / #

Shouldn't there be a line for the memtest entry or does it not show
that?  Maybe it is working and I don't know it yet.  lol

Oh, I have a script that has the longer command in it with all the nifty
options.  That's why the command is different.

root@fireball / # cat /root/grub-update
 
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
root@fireball / #

Thanks for the help.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:40:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

  I don't know about memtest86, but memtest86+ installs a menu file
  in /etc/grub.d, which means grub-mkconfig handles it.
 
  % cat /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+
  #!/bin/sh
  exec tail -n +3 $0
 
  menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 {
  linux16 /boot/memtest86plus/memtest
  }
 
  menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 (netbsd) {
  insmod bsd
  knetbsd /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.netbsd
  }
 
 That is what I did last.  I just emerged the thing and it put the file
 there.  You know I don't reboot often here but this is what it says
 when I update grub:
 
 root@fireball / # /root/grub-update
 Generating grub.cfg ...
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.8.7-1
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.6.6-1
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.5.3-3
 done
 root@fireball / #
 
 Shouldn't there be a line for the memtest entry or does it not show
 that?  Maybe it is working and I don't know it yet.  lol

There are no echo commands in the file, so it doesn't show anything when
adding. grub-mkconfig doesn't output anything by default, only the helper
scripts generate non-error output

Check the contents of grub.cfg.

 Oh, I have a script that has the longer command in it with all the nifty
 options.  That's why the command is different.
 
 root@fireball / # cat /root/grub-update
  
 grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

I do a similar thing, except the script is in /usr/local/bin, where it
should be :P, and it checks if /boot is mounted ro and remounts it rw if
necessary.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice Compile

2013-05-12 Thread William Tomlinson
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is possible from what I've read to cross
compile using distcc.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml seems to describe
this in detail, though the article is nearly 7 years old. I would prefer
this over a one shot package install since you could offload ALL of your
compiles. I have no personal experience with distcc and it may be more of a
headache than it is worth. I just know it was one of the options I looked
at for a similar issue.
On May 12, 2013 5:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/05/2013 19:53, Silvio Siefke wrote:
  Hello,
 
  is there a way that i can compile Libreoffice on my Desktop System and
  copy to the Netbook? Because the netbook need long time to compile
 libreoffice,
  and the Desktop is little faster. Or can i build a libreoffice Package on
  Desktop and copy to the netbook?
 
  The Netbook is a Samsung NC 10, Atom Processor and the Desktop is a
 Fujitsu P4.
 
 
 
  Thank you  Greetings
  Silvio
 

 Your desktop is a P4
 Your netbook is an Atom

 Others have noted how CHOST and CFLAGS must match on both machines,
 otherwise the Atom will probably not run P4 code. This will probably be
 a huge issue in your life and quite honestly, totally not worth it for
 just one package.

 Just install app-office/libreoffice-bin on the netbook instead

 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com





Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:40:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I don't know about memtest86, but memtest86+ installs a menu file
 in /etc/grub.d, which means grub-mkconfig handles it.

 % cat /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+
 #!/bin/sh
 exec tail -n +3 $0

 menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 {
 linux16 /boot/memtest86plus/memtest
 }

 menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 (netbsd) {
 insmod bsd
 knetbsd /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.netbsd
 }

 That is what I did last.  I just emerged the thing and it put the file
 there.  You know I don't reboot often here but this is what it says
 when I update grub:

 root@fireball / # /root/grub-update
 Generating grub.cfg ...
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.8.7-1
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.6.6-1
 Found linux image: /boot/kernel-3.5.3-3
 done
 root@fireball / #

 Shouldn't there be a line for the memtest entry or does it not show
 that?  Maybe it is working and I don't know it yet.  lol

 There are no echo commands in the file, so it doesn't show anything when
 adding. grub-mkconfig doesn't output anything by default, only the helper
 scripts generate non-error output

 Check the contents of grub.cfg.

Well I be darn.

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+ ###

menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 {
linux16 /boot/memtest86plus/memtest
}

menuentry memtest86+ 4.20 (netbsd) {
insmod bsd
knetbsd /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.netbsd
}
### END /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+ ###

There it be.  I wonder if it worked all the other times I tried?



 Oh, I have a script that has the longer command in it with all the nifty
 options.  That's why the command is different.

 root@fireball / # cat /root/grub-update
 
 grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

 I do a similar thing, except the script is in /usr/local/bin, where it
 should be :P, and it checks if /boot is mounted ro and remounts it rw if
 necessary.




I keep mine mounted anyway.  I'm not a script writer by any means.

Next time I reboot, I'll see if it is really there or not.  Looks like
it is.

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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[gentoo-user] dropbox on xfce

2013-05-12 Thread luis jure

any hints how to make dropbox work on xfce? google returned many hits for
other distributions, or for gentoo but on kde or gnome.

i installed net-misc/dropbox and xfce-extra/thunar-dropbox but all i can
do is upload files with a browser on the website (that is, it recognizes
i have dropbox installed in my computer).

if i run dropbox from the terminal an icon appears on the tray, but it
doesn't do anything. a Dropbox directory was created in my home, but it is
empty and doesn't show the files i uploaded. thunar-xfce doesn't do
anything either.

i installed dropbox on a netbook with xubuntu (also running xfce) and it
just worked. the Dropbox folder shows my uploaded files, and the tray icon
responds.

unfortunately i need dropbox to work on a project with some colleagues
that are using dropbox to share the files.

any help would be very appreciated.



Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 May 2013 09:00:04 -0500, Dale wrote:

 ### END /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+ ###
 
 There it be.  I wonder if it worked all the other times I tried?

If anyone else had asked that question I'd have said yes :)

  I do a similar thing, except the script is in /usr/local/bin, where it
  should be :P, and it checks if /boot is mounted ro and remounts it rw
  if necessary.

 I keep mine mounted anyway.  I'm not a script writer by any means.

As do I, but read-only. It prevents filesystem corruption but, unlike not
mounting it, it also avoids the embarrassment of installing a new kernel
then wondering why it boots with the old one :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] dropbox on xfce

2013-05-12 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi Luis,

I don't se any thunar-dropbox in portage
You could install gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox.
I work on xfce and dropbox is launched with xfce starting (dropbox.desktop
in ~/.config/autostart) ; everything works fine.

Cheers,

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2013/5/12 luis jure l...@internet.com.uy


 any hints how to make dropbox work on xfce? google returned many hits for
 other distributions, or for gentoo but on kde or gnome.

 i installed net-misc/dropbox and xfce-extra/thunar-dropbox but all i can
 do is upload files with a browser on the website (that is, it recognizes
 i have dropbox installed in my computer).

 if i run dropbox from the terminal an icon appears on the tray, but it
 doesn't do anything. a Dropbox directory was created in my home, but it is
 empty and doesn't show the files i uploaded. thunar-xfce doesn't do
 anything either.

 i installed dropbox on a netbook with xubuntu (also running xfce) and it
 just worked. the Dropbox folder shows my uploaded files, and the tray icon
 responds.

 unfortunately i need dropbox to work on a project with some colleagues
 that are using dropbox to share the files.

 any help would be very appreciated.




Re: [gentoo-user] Real qucik question - Copying over kernel configuration for same machines

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Khamis
I just realized that we were running 3.5.7 on the older systems, and
the current version is 3.7.10. Would I be cutting too many corners to
copy over the ..config from the older machine.

Thanks in Advance,

Nick.

On 5/12/13, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you!!!

 On 5/12/13, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote:
 On 5/11/2013 20:39, Nick Khamis wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 Just running an installation on another IBM machine, and wanted to know
 which kernel config files can we copy over from one machine to another,
 and have the same exact modules etc copied over.
 Saw examples for genkern, but we build our own kernels. After copying
 the
 files over we like to run make and make modules_install on the new
 machine.


 Thanks in Advance,

 Nick.


 The .config in the kernel source directory.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Real qucik question - Copying over kernel configuration for same machines

2013-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 May 2013 10:56:50 -0400, Nick Khamis wrote:

 I just realized that we were running 3.5.7 on the older systems, and
 the current version is 3.7.10. Would I be cutting too many corners to
 copy over the ..config from the older machine.

That's not a huge step, but you'll have a few questions to answer when you
run make oldconfig.

BTW please stop top-posting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Real qucik question - Copying over kernel configuration for same machines

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Khamis
Please forgive me! Gmail client from hell!



Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice Compile

2013-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2013 15:48, William Tomlinson wrote:
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is possible from what I've read to cross
 compile using distcc.
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml seems to
 describe this in detail, though the article is nearly 7 years old. I
 would prefer this over a one shot package install since you could
 offload ALL of your compiles. I have no personal experience with distcc
 and it may be more of a headache than it is worth. I just know it was
 one of the options I looked at for a similar issue.

First, before I respond, please do not top-post. If Gmail's web-based
client makes not top-posting hard then please rather use a different client.

distcc is designed to do the same compile over many machines. By design,
they all run on the same compiler settings. You do not have this
scenario. You need to build on a P4 for Atom. That is not distcc, it is
cross-compile - which is a mission to set up properly. If you are
building for ARM then it is worth it. But for one package, and only
because the Atom builds slow? I doubt it's worth it.

Thus, I recommended you simply install libreoffice-bin


 
 On May 12, 2013 5:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 11/05/2013 19:53, Silvio Siefke wrote:
  Hello,
 
  is there a way that i can compile Libreoffice on my Desktop System and
  copy to the Netbook? Because the netbook need long time to compile
 libreoffice,
  and the Desktop is little faster. Or can i build a libreoffice
 Package on
  Desktop and copy to the netbook?
 
  The Netbook is a Samsung NC 10, Atom Processor and the Desktop is
 a Fujitsu P4.
 
 
 
  Thank you  Greetings
  Silvio
 
 
 Your desktop is a P4
 Your netbook is an Atom
 
 Others have noted how CHOST and CFLAGS must match on both machines,
 otherwise the Atom will probably not run P4 code. This will probably be
 a huge issue in your life and quite honestly, totally not worth it for
 just one package.
 
 Just install app-office/libreoffice-bin on the netbook instead
 
 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2013 13:29, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 
 On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

 Hi.  I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried
 to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following:

 I didn't know Gentoo specifically made an unstable version, it's
 generally rock solid for me.
 Buy unstable I meant ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64
 
 

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies   done!

 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy net-libs/xulrunner:1.9.
 (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument])

 I have xulrunner 2.0 installed, although it looks like nothing depends
 on that package, so I am not sure what is going on.  I looked at
 /var/lib/portage/preserved-rebuild-registrybut can't find xulrunner
 anywhere in that file.  How can I proceed?

 emerge -cav xulrunner
 I have no ebuilds for xulrunner at all in the tree. But I will try as
 you suggest because there seems to be nothing dependent on it.
 Well, that did something good, now its going right along.
 
 Thanks so much -- this is a great mailing list.

xulrunner is no longer in the tree.

What I would do is run ldd on everything in lib dirs and grep for
xulrunner to find which ancient package wants it. Then rebuild that package.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] gentoo and orca using gnome 3.8

2013-05-12 Thread covici
Hi.  I am trying to  build orca from master which is necessary for gnome
3.8 which I have installed.  Orca uses python3.3 and will not even use
3.2.  So I emerged 3.3 by putting a keyword ~amd64 in the keywords.
Now, how do I get the packages to go in -- the first one which has
problems is dev-python/pygobject.  I added python3_3  but when I emerge
it, the use flags say (-python3_3). 

There may be others, but how can I get this package to go into
python3.3?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] dropbox on xfce

2013-05-12 Thread luis jure

hi jacques! thanks for your response. i'm glad it's working for you, it
gives me some hope...

i'm afraid i need some more help, though.


on 2013-05-12 at 16:48 Jacques Montier wrote:
 
 I don't se any thunar-dropbox in portage

no, i found an ebuild in an overlay. i can't see that it does anything,
though.

 You could install gnome-extra/nautilus-dropbox.

could like it is optional? do you have it installed? 

 I work on xfce and dropbox is launched with xfce starting
 (dropbox.desktop in ~/.config/autostart) ; 

i'm afraid i don't know exactly how this works. in ~/.config/autostart i
have a few files that contain something like:

[Desktop Entry]
Hidden=false

do you mean i should create a similar file named dropbox.desktop?

and what about /etc/init.d/dropbox, should i start the service?

i also noticed that there's a file /etc/conf.d/dropbox, i had to add my 
use to DROPBOX_USERS, otherwise there where errors when i tried to launch
dropbox. 

excuse all the questions, but as you see it's not working for me and i 
don' have much clue what's wrong or how to solve this problem.


best,


lj



Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen video card

2013-05-12 Thread Fast Turtle
Problem is that CPU does not have any onboard graphics. For the Xeon you
need one ending in 5 (1205/1225/1245) in order to get the onboard gpu.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

   OK, I'm getting serious with the install on my new machine, so here
 come the questions.  lspci -v shows the onboard GPU as...

 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd
 Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA
 controller])
 Subsystem: Dell Device 0581
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
 Memory at f780 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
 Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
 Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled]
 Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
 Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features

   What settings do I use for VIDEO_CARDS= in make.conf? Is intel good
 enough?

   Also, any special stuff in make menuconfig?

 --
 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
 I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications




Re: [gentoo-user] Settings for Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen video card

2013-05-12 Thread Fast Turtle
If you don't have the cpu yet, my suggestion is to go with the 1245 v2 as
it offers the best bang for the buck. It also includes the HD4000 GPU (same
as the i5/i7 Ivy Bridge and with same settings).


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

   OK, I'm getting serious with the install on my new machine, so here
 come the questions.  lspci -v shows the onboard GPU as...

 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd
 Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA
 controller])
 Subsystem: Dell Device 0581
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
 Memory at f780 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
 Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
 Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled]
 Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
 Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features

   What settings do I use for VIDEO_CARDS= in make.conf? Is intel good
 enough?

   Also, any special stuff in make menuconfig?

 --
 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
 I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications




Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo and orca using gnome 3.8

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 12.05.2013 18:12, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 Hi.  I am trying to  build orca from master which is necessary for gnome
 3.8 which I have installed.  Orca uses python3.3 and will not even use
 3.2.  So I emerged 3.3 by putting a keyword ~amd64 in the keywords.
 Now, how do I get the packages to go in -- the first one which has
 problems is dev-python/pygobject.  I added python3_3  but when I emerge
 it, the use flags say (-python3_3). 
 
 There may be others, but how can I get this package to go into
 python3.3?
 
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 

I too run gnome 3.8. I have no problem merging orca (3.6.3-r1). What
error do you get when trying to merge orca? Maybe search bugs.gentoo.org.



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[gentoo-user] Which mysql USE flag do I need - mysql or mysqlnd?

2013-05-12 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am looking at an aged php installation and noticed that there is a mysqlnd 
USE flag, which I have not enabled.  From the mysql documentation it seems 
that mysqlnd is attracting most development and features.

Then I had a look here and it is not mentioned:

  http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/php/wiki/ManagingExtensions

What would you advise that I use these days?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo and orca using gnome 3.8

2013-05-12 Thread covici
Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:

 Am 12.05.2013 18:12, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
  Hi.  I am trying to  build orca from master which is necessary for gnome
  3.8 which I have installed.  Orca uses python3.3 and will not even use
  3.2.  So I emerged 3.3 by putting a keyword ~amd64 in the keywords.
  Now, how do I get the packages to go in -- the first one which has
  problems is dev-python/pygobject.  I added python3_3  but when I emerge
  it, the use flags say (-python3_3). 
  
  There may be others, but how can I get this package to go into
  python3.3?
  
  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
  
 
 I too run gnome 3.8. I have no problem merging orca (3.6.3-r1). What
 error do you get when trying to merge orca? Maybe search bugs.gentoo.org.
 
]
I am trying to run orca from master which is a different version and
requires python3.3.  When I did not have it, it said no suitable python
interpreter and now it is complaining it can't find module gi.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Booting memtest86 from grub2

2013-05-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 12 May 2013 09:00:04 -0500, Dale wrote:

 ### END /etc/grub.d/39_memtest86+ ###

 There it be.  I wonder if it worked all the other times I tried?
 If anyone else had asked that question I'd have said yes :)

Well, it is spring here so I shutdown today and did some serious blowing
out of the dust.  One thing about the Cooler Master HAF-932 case, lots
of air flow, quite a bit of dust too.   Anyway, when I booted up again,
there sat memtest86+ in the menu.  I selected it and you won't guess the
result.  Yep.  Error message.  Can I shoot it now?  :-/  I can't copy
and paste so bear with my fat fingers.

error: too small lower memory 0x9100  0x98400

Put to use my pitiful google skills and found out this is quite common. 
That makes me feel better.  It isn't JUST me.  Downgrading memtest
thingy and trying a older version.  After that, I'll try some other
tester thingy.  If that fails, remove the file and use my USB stick
thingy. 

I do a lot of thingys when things ain't going right. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




[gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-12 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I been noticing something weird when I upgrade gcc.  Is this normal?

root@fireball / # genlop -c

 Currently merging 2 out of 5

 * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

   current merge time: 6 seconds.
   ETA: 24 minutes and 27 seconds.

 Currently merging 3 out of 5

 * net-misc/curl-7.30.0

   current merge time: 7 seconds.
   ETA: 18 minutes and 50 seconds.

 Currently merging 2 out of 5

 * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

   current merge time: 7 seconds.
   ETA: 21 minutes and 14 seconds.
root@fireball / #


I'm not worried about curl.  It just happened to be there.  This is the
list of packages it is supposed to update:

root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
{-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] net-misc/curl-7.30.0 [7.29.0-r1] USE=ipv6 ssl threads
-adns -idn -kerberos -ldap -metalink -rtmp -ssh -static-libs {-test}
CURL_SSL=openssl -axtls -cyassl -gnutls -nss -polarssl 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
[ebuild U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.3-r2:4 [4.10.3:4] USE=3dnow alsa
bzip2 fam handbook jpeg2k lzma mmx nls opengl (policykit)
semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf -acl
(-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test} 0 kB

Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y

I noticed this one or twice before.  It is compiling the same compiler
version twice when it should be upgrading/recompiling two *different*
versions.  I read before that gcc compiles three times or something but
the thing is, it can compile for HOURS and never finish.  Usually I stop
it and restart emerge and it compiles as it should, one for each version
and finishes as it should time wise.  I once started the upgrade and
went to take a nap.  I woke up around 5 or 6 hours later to find gcc
compiling twice on the same version.  Even libreoffice only takes a hour
or so. 

Anyone else see this before?   Now to go stop this one and get it to
update right and not take all week. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2013 23:16, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I been noticing something weird when I upgrade gcc.  Is this normal?
 
 root@fireball / # genlop -c
 
  Currently merging 2 out of 5
 
  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
 
current merge time: 6 seconds.
ETA: 24 minutes and 27 seconds.
 
  Currently merging 3 out of 5
 
  * net-misc/curl-7.30.0
 
current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 18 minutes and 50 seconds.
 
  Currently merging 2 out of 5
 
  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
 
current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 21 minutes and 14 seconds.
 root@fireball / #
 
 
 I'm not worried about curl.  It just happened to be there.  This is the
 list of packages it is supposed to update:
 
 root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
 {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] net-misc/curl-7.30.0 [7.29.0-r1] USE=ipv6 ssl threads
 -adns -idn -kerberos -ldap -metalink -rtmp -ssh -static-libs {-test}
 CURL_SSL=openssl -axtls -cyassl -gnutls -nss -polarssl 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
 [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.3-r2:4 [4.10.3:4] USE=3dnow alsa
 bzip2 fam handbook jpeg2k lzma mmx nls opengl (policykit)
 semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf -acl
 (-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test} 0 kB
 
 Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
 
 I noticed this one or twice before.  It is compiling the same compiler
 version twice when it should be upgrading/recompiling two *different*
 versions.  I read before that gcc compiles three times or something but
 the thing is, it can compile for HOURS and never finish.  Usually I stop
 it and restart emerge and it compiles as it should, one for each version
 and finishes as it should time wise.  I once started the upgrade and
 went to take a nap.  I woke up around 5 or 6 hours later to find gcc
 compiling twice on the same version.  Even libreoffice only takes a hour
 or so. 
 
 Anyone else see this before?   Now to go stop this one and get it to
 update right and not take all week. 

What have you got in world for gcc?
What's in make.conf?

gcc's build system does cause gcc tro be built three times[1], but
that's internal to gcc and has nothing to do with portage. There should
still only be one emerge for a SLOT. If it's doing the same package
twice, then the files in /var/tmp/portage are liable to get continually
clobbered and who knows what will happen.


[1]  The logic goes something like this: it's a compiler, so the code it
produces must be consistently identical for identical inputs. So, the
current compiler builds gcc, giving version Y built by version X. That
instance of gcc in turn builds a gcc, giving version Y built by version Y.

Now you should have two copies of the same version of gcc, and they
should be identical, plus the output code must also be identical. The
gcc builds system checks for this by actually doing compiles and
comparing the results. I've gotten a bit hazy on what specific bits
actually do what, but that's the general concept. But all this
rebuilding is internal and you only see it if you examine the console
output scrolling by, it will never show up in any portage tools.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Real qucik question - Copying over kernel configuration for same machines

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:39:02PM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Saw examples for genkern, but we build our own kernels. After copying the
 files over we like to run make and make modules_install on the new machine.

  Since the new machine will probably have a newer kernel, I suggest

1) copy /usr/src/linux/.config from the working machine to the new
machine

2) run make oldconfig

3) then run male and make modules_install

  make oldconfig will give you a chance to set values for options in
the newer kernel that don't exist in the older kernel.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-12 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:27:48 +0200
Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On 12/05/2013 23:16, Dale wrote:
  Howdy,
  
  I been noticing something weird when I upgrade gcc.  Is this normal?
  
  root@fireball / # genlop -c
  
   Currently merging 2 out of 5
  
   * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
  
 current merge time: 6 seconds.
 ETA: 24 minutes and 27 seconds.
  
   Currently merging 3 out of 5
  
   * net-misc/curl-7.30.0
  
 current merge time: 7 seconds.
 ETA: 18 minutes and 50 seconds.
  
   Currently merging 2 out of 5
  
   * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
  
 current merge time: 7 seconds.
 ETA: 21 minutes and 14 seconds.
  root@fireball / #
  
  
  I'm not worried about curl.  It just happened to be there.  This is
  the list of packages it is supposed to update:
  
  root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap
  (multilib) nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point)
  -fortran -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp
  -objc -objc++ -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
  [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap
  (multilib) nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point)
  -fortran -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc
  -objc++ -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
  [ebuild U  ] net-misc/curl-7.30.0 [7.29.0-r1] USE=ipv6 ssl
  threads -adns -idn -kerberos -ldap -metalink -rtmp -ssh
  -static-libs {-test} CURL_SSL=openssl -axtls -cyassl -gnutls -nss
  -polarssl 0 kB [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6]
  USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB [ebuild U ~]
  kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.3-r2:4 [4.10.3:4] USE=3dnow alsa bzip2 fam
  handbook jpeg2k lzma mmx nls opengl (policykit) semantic-desktop
  spell sse sse2 ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf -acl (-altivec)
  (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test} 0 kB
  
  Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0
  kB
  
  Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
  
  I noticed this one or twice before.  It is compiling the same
  compiler version twice when it should be upgrading/recompiling two
  *different* versions.  I read before that gcc compiles three times
  or something but the thing is, it can compile for HOURS and never
  finish.  Usually I stop it and restart emerge and it compiles as it
  should, one for each version and finishes as it should time wise.
  I once started the upgrade and went to take a nap.  I woke up
  around 5 or 6 hours later to find gcc compiling twice on the same
  version.  Even libreoffice only takes a hour or so. 
  
  Anyone else see this before?   Now to go stop this one and get it to
  update right and not take all week. 
 
 What have you got in world for gcc?
 What's in make.conf?
 
 gcc's build system does cause gcc tro be built three times[1], but
 that's internal to gcc and has nothing to do with portage. There
 should still only be one emerge for a SLOT. If it's doing the same
 package twice, then the files in /var/tmp/portage are liable to get
 continually clobbered and who knows what will happen.
 
 
 [1]  The logic goes something like this: it's a compiler, so the code
 it produces must be consistently identical for identical inputs. So,
 the current compiler builds gcc, giving version Y built by version X.
 That instance of gcc in turn builds a gcc, giving version Y built by
 version Y.

Haven't you left out the third compile?

Let me rephrase the 3 builds.

1) gcc-X builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y1
2) gcc-Y1 builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y2
3) gcc-Y2 builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y3

gcc-Y1 and gcc-Y2 are likely to be different (since they were build by
gcc-X and gcc-Y which are likely to have optimizations).

gcc-Y2 and gcc-Y3 should be identical (since both were built by gcc-Y)

 Now you should have two copies of the same version of gcc, and they
 should be identical, plus the output code must also be identical. The
 gcc builds system checks for this by actually doing compiles and
 comparing the results. I've gotten a bit hazy on what specific bits
 actually do what, but that's the general concept. But all this
 rebuilding is internal and you only see it if you examine the console
 output scrolling by, it will never show up in any portage tools.
 
 -- 
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 12/05/2013 23:16, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,

 I been noticing something weird when I upgrade gcc.  Is this normal?

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 2 out of 5

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 seconds.
ETA: 24 minutes and 27 seconds.

  Currently merging 3 out of 5

  * net-misc/curl-7.30.0

current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 18 minutes and 50 seconds.

  Currently merging 2 out of 5

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 21 minutes and 14 seconds.
 root@fireball / #


 I'm not worried about curl.  It just happened to be there.  This is the
 list of packages it is supposed to update:

 root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
 {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] net-misc/curl-7.30.0 [7.29.0-r1] USE=ipv6 ssl threads
 -adns -idn -kerberos -ldap -metalink -rtmp -ssh -static-libs {-test}
 CURL_SSL=openssl -axtls -cyassl -gnutls -nss -polarssl 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
 [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.3-r2:4 [4.10.3:4] USE=3dnow alsa
 bzip2 fam handbook jpeg2k lzma mmx nls opengl (policykit)
 semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf -acl
 (-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test} 0 kB

 Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB

 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y

 I noticed this one or twice before.  It is compiling the same compiler
 version twice when it should be upgrading/recompiling two *different*
 versions.  I read before that gcc compiles three times or something but
 the thing is, it can compile for HOURS and never finish.  Usually I stop
 it and restart emerge and it compiles as it should, one for each version
 and finishes as it should time wise.  I once started the upgrade and
 went to take a nap.  I woke up around 5 or 6 hours later to find gcc
 compiling twice on the same version.  Even libreoffice only takes a hour
 or so. 

 Anyone else see this before?   Now to go stop this one and get it to
 update right and not take all week. 
 What have you got in world for gcc?


root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep gcc
sys-devel/gcc:4.4
sys-devel/gcc:4.5
root@fireball / #

I generally keep two versions.  Got bit once.  Long time ago but still,
no fun to fix.


 What's in make.conf?

This is the USE line.  I'm not sure if you want all the rest.  Rest is
normal stuff, pretty much.  lol

USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 acpi alsa aml apng automount avahi \
 bash-completion bzip2 -cairo cddb cdr chroot cleartype clucene
corefonts \
 cups curl dbus declarative dri dvd dvdr embedded escreen esd \
 exif faac ffmpeg fontconfig -fortran gif gimp gkrellm gphoto2 \
 gtk hbci hddtemp iostats ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg2k \
 justify kde kmod libwww logrotate loop-aes lvm lzma \
 mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mmxext mng mp3 mplayer mysql nls
nsplugin \
 nvidia offensive ofx opengl openrc parport pdf pdfimport \
 policykit ppds ppp qt4 sasl seamonkey semantic-desktop sift smp \
 sse sse2 sse4a syslog tcl threads tiff tk truetype type1 udev \
 usb vcd webkit win32codecs wma wmf yahoo zeroconf -acl \
 -bluetooth -branding -doc -dts -eds -fftw -gcj -gnome -jabber \
 -jingle -ldap -musepack -openldap -oss -otr sqlite -sqlite3 -theora \
 -v41 -xulrunner -h -crypt -cxx



 gcc's build system does cause gcc tro be built three times[1], but
 that's internal to gcc and has nothing to do with portage. There should
 still only be one emerge for a SLOT. If it's doing the same package
 twice, then the files in /var/tmp/portage are liable to get continually
 clobbered and who knows what will happen.


 [1]  The logic goes something like this: it's a compiler, so the code it
 produces must be consistently identical for identical inputs. So, the
 current compiler builds gcc, giving version Y built by version X. That
 instance of gcc in turn builds a gcc, giving version Y built by version Y.

 Now you should have two copies of the same version of gcc, and they
 should be identical, plus the output code must also be identical. The
 gcc builds system checks for this by actually doing compiles and
 comparing the results. I've gotten a bit hazy on what specific bits
 actually do what, but that's the general concept. But all this
 rebuilding is internal and you only see it if 

[gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Dnes
  I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine.

making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s):
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m  usr/lib64/libgnuintl.so.8 - preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374545 was opened in July of
2011 (YES!!!).  I don't want to bug the developers.  My questions are...

1) does it cause any problems?

2) is the appropriate workaround to...

cd /usr/lib64
ln -s preloadable_libintl.so libgnuintl.so.8

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic Intensive IPSec Tunnel

2013-05-12 Thread Adam Carter

 You can read a comparison between the *Swans here, but things have moved on
 since; e.g. StrongSwan supports IKEv1 in Aggressive Mode,


Aggressive mode with pre-shared keys is vulnerable to offline dictionary
attack so you might as well use main mode. If for some reason you have to
use aggressive mode use a long randomly generated PSK.


Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic Intensive IPSec Tunnel

2013-05-12 Thread Mick
On Monday 13 May 2013 03:13:27 Adam Carter wrote:
  You can read a comparison between the *Swans here, but things have moved
  on since; e.g. StrongSwan supports IKEv1 in Aggressive Mode,
 
 Aggressive mode with pre-shared keys is vulnerable to offline dictionary
 attack so you might as well use main mode. If for some reason you have to
 use aggressive mode use a long randomly generated PSK.

Indeed it is vulnerable, because the hash of the PSK is sent out in the 
initial handshake.  This can be captured by eavesdropping and cracked by brute 
force off line.  As suggested long keys help, especially if they are changed 
often.

It is best, however, to not use a PSK at all and instead set up SSL 
certificates for VPN gateway and client machines authentication and RSA 
encryption.  This makes it easy to revoke a single SSL certificate if a client 
is compromised, instead of having to change PSKs for any number of machines 
that are using the VPN network.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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