[gentoo-user] Dependency conflict

[Dmitry Bogun]

Hi.

Perl packages family use extremely annoying dependency definition.

See example below.

The question is "what is the correct way to solve this dependency conflict?". I 
don't like to add all "conflicts" into install list in cli.  Is there a way to 
force update of all this "perl sh.t/stuff"? And this is not first time when I 
faced this issue. And usually it happen with perl* packages.

# emerge -a1 bash perl

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These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] app-shells/bash-4.3_p46-r1 [4.3_p42-r1]
[ebuild   R] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2

WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency 
conflict:

dev-lang/perl:0

  (dev-lang/perl-5.22.2:0/5.22::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts 
with
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by (virtual/perl-IO-1.310.0:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
^  ^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL-1.30.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Text-Unidecode-0.40.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Date-Manip-6.510.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/IO-Socket-INET6-2.720.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(perl-core/Data-Dumper-2.154.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-2.24.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by 
(virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.330.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Tie-IxHash-1.230.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by 
(virtual/perl-Digest-SHA-5.880.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^
=dev-lang/perl-5.20.2* required by 
(virtual/perl-Storable-2.490.100-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^^^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Carp-Clan-6.40.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Socket6-0.270.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (dev-perl/Net-DNS-1.40.0:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Error-0.170.240:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Date-Calc-6.400.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/libintl-perl-1.240.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Sys-CPU-0.610.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Authen-SASL-2.160.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Sys-MemInfo-0.980.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by 
(virtual/perl-Digest-MD5-2.530.0-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Net-IP-1.260.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-vcs/git-2.7.3-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Unicode-EastAsianWidth-1.330.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(perl-core/File-Temp-0.230.400-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20.2* required by 
(virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.480.100-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^^^
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by 
(virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.140.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^  ^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Bit-Vector-7.400.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (sys-apps/texinfo-6.1:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by (virtual/perl-Encode-2.600.0:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
^  ^
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(perl-core/libnet-1.270.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by 
(dev-perl/Digest-HMAC-1.30.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
=dev-lang/perl-5.20* 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GPT newbee needs some help

[Dmitry Bogun]

Look like you don't have gpt support in kernel.

Post output from command "gunzip -c /proc/config.gz | grep '_PARTITION\>'"

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Helmut Jarausch  wrote:
> 
> On 07/22/2016 10:28:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:04:58 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> > I have zeroed the first 8 MB and then I used gdisk
>> > gdisk still notes that there is a backup GPT. I opted to created a new
>> > blank GPT.
>> > Then I created 4 partitions.
>> > I have used the w(rite) command before exiting gdisk.
>> > Starting gdisk again, it shows the 4 partitions.
>> You still haven't showed us the output from gdisk -l /dev/sde
> 
> OK, here it is:
> 
> gdisk -l /dev/sde
> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.1
> 
> Partition table scan:
>  MBR: protective
>  BSD: not present
>  APM: not present
>  GPT: present
> 
> Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
> Disk /dev/sde: 9767541167 sectors, 4.5 TiB
> Logical sector size: 512 bytes
> Disk identifier (GUID): A072CFE0-0651-441C-8BA2-8527623BA142
> Partition table holds up to 128 entries
> First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 9767541133
> Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries
> Total free space is 2014 sectors (1007.0 KiB)
> 
> Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
>   12048  3145730047   1.5 TiB 8300  Linux filesystem
>   2  3145730048  5293213695   1024.0 GiB  8300  Linux filesystem
>   3  5293213696  7440697343   1024.0 GiB  8300  Linux filesystem
>   4  7440697344  9767541133   1.1 TiB 8300  Linux filesystem
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?

[Dmitry Goncharov]

One way to fix that would be to boot a livecd, chroot, build and install
another kernel.
Why does not the old kernel boot?

regards, Dmitry

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David Kuhl dhkuhl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need a Gentoo Expert to take a look at this.  Are there any in NYC
 around West 72nd?  I've got to get this laptop working.  After
 following the recomendations on building the latest kernel I don't
 have a system anymore.  Everything on my LVM2 partitions are gone or
 at least not working.  I added genkernel ~amd64 to the
 portage/package.keywords as suggested to get the latest genkernel to
 build . . . which it did.  Now the kernel (3.3.8) which was suppose to
 fix the xorg-server problem destroyed the system, I can't boot to the
 old kernel either it's the same thing.  This is getting worse.  How
 can I fix this?  Is there anyone near by?  Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

[Dmitry Goncharov]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:52:12PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow. Just wow. This is incredible.
 
 This is repeatable for me.
 
snip
  * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named
  * 'glibc-2.14.1-r3.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/sys-
 
snip
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf
 --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param
 l2-cache-size=4096 -mtune=core2 -ggdb3
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

Can you upgrage to glibc-2.15?
Can you tweak you gcc flags to something more conventional and see if the
problem persists?
If you are interested in submitting a patch to the upstream then you can build
the glibc test suite with your gcc flags and check if the tests pass.

regards, Dmitry

Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

[Dmitry Goncharov]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 11:56:01PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dmitry Goncharov
 dgoncha...@users.sf.net wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:52:12PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
  Wow. Just wow. This is incredible.
 
  This is repeatable for me.
 
  snip
   * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named
   * 'glibc-2.14.1-r3.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/sys-
 
  snip
  CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf
  --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param
  l2-cache-size=4096 -mtune=core2 -ggdb3
  CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 
  Can you upgrage to glibc-2.15?
 
 Sure. It's going to be another full reinstall.
 
  Can you tweak you gcc flags to something more conventional and see if the
  problem persists?
 
 Those CFLAGS should be equivalent to:
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -ggdb3 --march=native.
 
 But I'll try making it just -O2 -pipe --march=native.
 
  If you are interested in submitting a patch to the upstream then you can 
  build
  the glibc test suite with your gcc flags and check if the tests pass.
 
 If it gets things fixed. I have two machines which have been offline
 for almost two months from this.
 
 -- 
 :wq
 
Also, which gcc are you using? Can you try a different version?

regards, Dmitry

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: contribution to colorgcc

[Dmitry Goncharov]

On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 07:52:35AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 08/07/2011 05:14 AM, Dmitry Goncharov wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  Is anybody maintaining dev-util/colorgcc?
 
 No.  There's no upstream for it anymore.  Packagers maintain their own 
 versions and fixes are not contributed upstream since there's no upstream.
 
 

Yes, there is not upstream. I am looking for a gentoo maintainer who can accept
patches.
Alternatively, i can roll out a colorgcc tarball and start a new
upstream. I use the program with 4 of these compilers on a daily basis and 
maintain
anyway.

regards, Dmitry

Re: [gentoo-user] contribution to colorgcc

[Dmitry Goncharov]

On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 09:26:36AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
 (Please forgive my top-posting)
 
 Commendable effort, my friend. Have you tried asking in the gentoo-dev ML?
 
 Rgds,
 
No effort at all. The program helps and makes my life easier a lot.
Yes, i also asked the gentoo-dev.

regards, Dmitry

 
 On 2011-08-07, Dmitry Goncharov dgoncha...@users.sf.net wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  Is anybody maintaining dev-util/colorgcc?
  I'd like to contribute certain improvements for gcc and also support for the
  sun, ibm, hp and intel compilers.
  I pushed the current version to https://github.com/dgoncharov/colorgcc.
  You can pull from there or i can submit a set of patches.
 
  regards, Dmitry
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 --
 Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer
 My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
 

[gentoo-user] contribution to colorgcc

[Dmitry Goncharov]

Greetings,

Is anybody maintaining dev-util/colorgcc?
I'd like to contribute certain improvements for gcc and also support for the
sun, ibm, hp and intel compilers.
I pushed the current version to https://github.com/dgoncharov/colorgcc.
You can pull from there or i can submit a set of patches.

regards, Dmitry

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 + python3.1 == no system-config-printer-kde ?

[Dmitry Makovey]

On 06/14/2011 12:09 AM, Mick wrote:
 The last enews I read specifically warned *not* to turn on 3.1 and
 instead
 stay with the latest 2 version ...

 Do you have a specific reason that compels you to try to make KDE work with 
 3.1?
If memory serves me right it was on this list that I picked up the idea
that things are working just fine with 3.1, not to mention that most
packages are smart enough to know which python they need with
PYTHON_API variables sprinkled around ebuilds. So I was quite surprised
to uncover this one.

[gentoo-user] KDE4 + python3.1 == no system-config-printer-kde ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi everybody,

Is it me missing out on something or does KDE4 (namely PyKDE4) is borked
when default python is set to 3.1?


# eselect python list
Available Python interpreters:
  [1]   python2.7
  [2]   python3.1 *
# eselect python list --python3
Available Python 3 interpreters:
  [1]   python3.1 *
# eselect python list --python2
Available Python 2 interpreters:
  [1]   python2.7 *
# grep python /etc/make.conf
 pygrub python python3 pulseaudio qalculate qt3 qt3support

with all of the above PyKDE4 compiles, however
kde-base/system-config-printer-kde-4.6.3 barfs:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindPyKDE4.py, line 8, in module
import PyKDE4.pykdeconfig

with a bit of look-around it seems like pykde4 has:

RESTRICT_PYTHON_ABIS=2.4

which boils down to (what seems like) pykde4 is built only for 3.1

# epm -ql pykde4 | grep pykdeconfig
/usr/lib64/python3.1/site-packages/PyKDE4/pykdeconfig.py

should I be performing some other waving in the air to make this whole
thing fly? It seems like a bug to me, but I'd rather confirm I'm not
missing something before reporting it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + KDE + pulseaudio + ? == happiness

[Dmitry Makovey]

 On 10/19/2010 09:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 2010/10/18 Dmitry S. Makovey di...@makovey.net:
 I realize it may be a question more geared toward pulseaudio community
 but I'd rather find out whether there's something Gentoo-specific I'm
 missing first.
 Hi, do you know about this page?

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio

 I tried Pulseaudio in my Gentoo once by using that guide.
thanks. I'm pretty sure I've followed that page before, but hey - it was
a long time ago. I adjusted my setup according to what it says *now* -
we'll see what comes out of it. I followed links a bit deeper and also
checked my setup against
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181-highlight-pulseaudio.html
adjusting a thing or two (like using hal module vs udev, however
something tells me I'll be switching back pretty soon...).

I'll try it out for a while and post back the results.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + KDE + pulseaudio + ? == happiness

[Dmitry Makovey]

 On 10/19/2010 09:48 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 Hi, do you know about this page?
 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio I tried Pulseaudio in my
 Gentoo once by using that guide. 
 thanks. I'm pretty sure I've followed that page before, but hey - it was
 a long time ago. I adjusted my setup according to what it says *now* -
 we'll see what comes out of it. I followed links a bit deeper and also
 checked my setup against
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181-highlight-pulseaudio.html
 adjusting a thing or two (like using hal module vs udev, however
 something tells me I'll be switching back pretty soon...).

 I'll try it out for a while and post back the results.

well my attempts are unsuccessful so far. Applying every trick in a
book from the above links I've got nowhere. I can reliably reproduce
the problem: start amarok, try to start playing movie with, say mplayer,
skip through couple of frames - and voila! sound is gone. I've tried
both Xine and GStreamer backends so far with the same outcome.

So what I've done on top of my setup is: installed alsa-plugins, changed
pulseaudio configs as per above forum post (checking along the way that
my setup matches).

Interesting touch on this entire ordeal I see Internal Audio Analog
stereo after
startup, but if I kill pulseaudio process with:

/usr/bin/pulseaudio --kill

my Multimedia settings will display PulseAudio server. Problems remain
the same though. It could be the Mplayer's fault - I switched it over
from ao=alsa to ao=pulse and same happens.

Right now I've got to the point where one app may lock the device while
other seems to be sending output to /dev/null and keeps sending it after
app that locked device quits (looks like this is the result of using
GStreamer over Xine backend).

[gentoo-user] Gentoo + KDE + pulseaudio + ? == happiness

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

 Hi everybody,

not trying to stir up a flamewar about pulseaudio viability etc. I want
to make my setup work *with* the pulseaudio, but I feel like I'm missing
something. So I'd rather avoid comments don't use it then if at all
possible.

What I have:
Gentoo + KDE-4.4.5 + pulseaudio-0.9.21.1

How I use it:
In KDE I've got Xine backend setup for playback (if I use gstreamer I
get higher frequency of problems popping up, see below).

Problems I see:
Whenever any app tries to use KDE sound notification system I have a
good chance of sound becoming garbled in Amarok (while listening to the
music), heck even non-KDE apps like Skype would work fine until
something else decides to use sound device (like gnash/lighspark, etc.).
Chances of getting garbled sound are 50/50 - it's never a guarantee:
sometimes it works - sometimes it crashes. To get sound back I have to
restart app (Skype, Firefox, Amarok, etc.).

How I configured it:
$ cat /etc/asound.conf
# as per http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications
# we're using pulseaudio for everything now...
#
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
 
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}

$ cat ~/.asoundrc
pcm.hda-intel {
   type hw
   card 0
}

ctl.hda-intel {
   type hw
   card 0
}

I've been living with above problems for a while now not having much
time to investigate and writing it off as immaturity of stack, but it
was out for quite a while and obviously people use it with better rate
of success (judging by online resources).

My HW looks like this:
$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
  HDA NVidia at 0xfe02 irq 20
 2 [U0x46d0x809]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x809
  USB Device 0x46d:0x809 at usb-:00:02.1-2, high
speed

(second device is a Logitec's USB WebCam).

I realize it may be a question more geared toward pulseaudio community
but I'd rather find out whether there's something Gentoo-specific I'm
missing first.

Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card [SOLVED?]

[Dmitry Makovey]

For completeness here's what I have ended up with:

/etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf :

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd cards_limit=4 slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-hda-intel,snd-usb-audio

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-0 enable=1 model=6stack-dig

now as it turns out that sandwich of a sound system we're expected to
run currently has more than one weak point. So I have learned that ALSA
was only part of my problem, and I got it working just fine with the
above config, now pulseaudio and phonon were two other areas where I
didn't expect to struggle but I did!

In the end, after spending some hours reading bulks of documents on
ALSA, pulseaudio and phonon and noticing that in KDE-4.3.5 my control
panel was showing not the stuff that documentation for abovementioned
pieces suggests, I killed pulseaudio daemon, then restarted it back from
command line and... lo-and-behold I've got PulseAudio Sound Server in
the list of available output devices. Here's what I've done:

in my home directory

$ cat .kde4/Autostart/pulseaudio.sh
#!/bin/sh

/usr/bin/pulseaudio --kill
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start -D

now things are singing again. Doesn't look like I'm getting both ALSA
and PulseAudio, but that's OK - so far it seems like PulseAudio picks
the right sinks/sources.

I am not exactly sure why do I need to kill pulseaudio and restart it
again - but it works. Anybody with a better insight please correct me.

[gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi everybody,

I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise
things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered
- even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL. No
matter how many goats and virgins I have sacrificed to the gods of
Google - can not find an answer. Am I missing something obvious? As a
stop-gap measure I'm trying to rebuild my kernel without USB sound
support, but it would be nice to not resort to such drastic measures.

Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card

[Dmitry Makovey]

On 03/04/2010 08:37 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 2010/3/4 Dmitry S. Makovey di...@makovey.net:
   
 Hi everybody,

 I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise
 things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered
 - even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL.
 I have the same webcam. My work-around is to unplug the webcam before
 you reboot. Real fix would be set up alsa so it knows the proper order
 of soundcards... I've never been able to get it to do that, though, so
 I just unplug webcam until I want to use it. If someone else has
 figured out how, I'd be happy to hear it too.
   
well I've figured it out half-way (based on
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MultipleCards )

alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore

options snd major=116 cards_limit=4

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-osshree
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel index=0

alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
alias sound-slot-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-usb-audio

Now my problem is that the only control ALSA shows for my built-in
hda-intel is Master with no sub-channles available. Anybody
knowledgeable enough to suggest where is the problem?

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

[Dmitry Makovey]

William Kenworthy wrote:
 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA
   
ah, the magic word: GMA :) Thanks for the reference I have started
applying advises from there so we'll see what will I end up with.
 Welcome to our world of pain :(
   
it is quite surprising considering that Intel has opensource drivers
etc. So no weirdness should arise as developers have the specs etc.
(at least that was my understanding so far).
 I made some headway using -hal for xorg-server in USE, and IgnoreEDID
 and setting DDC to false in xorg.conf but the latest updates ignore
 those and the UXA settings in the link above (check the xorg log for
 other dirty secrets)
   
Xorg.0.log looks much cleaner now that I got drm issues out of the way...
 I am using 2.6.31-r3 (with kernel mode setting by default for the i915 -
 doesnt work well without it) and xorg-server 1.6.5.
   
which intel driver do you use? Mine's 2.8.1 and I wonder if bumping to
2.9.1 that is in testing wouldn't yield better results.
 Its a laptop and there is no easy solution as the external screens
 (various) that I use with it often have only 1024x768 in common with its
 own LCD and stupid xorg wont let me overide it without consequences
 elsewhere :(

 xorg sucks badly at the moment and there is no viable alternative to
 switch to - and the saddest thing is the chipset has worked fine in the
 past (sadly becoming distant past for me) ...
   
I too found degradation quite surprising since things were working
pretty well up until now. I somewhat regret KDE4 switch  because of all
of this, however I definitely needed some of the features KDE4 apps had
to offer. Traded off some of the features dear to my heart: multi-key
combinations popping prompt menu, titlebar set correctly in Konsole
without affecting tab name, and some others. Filed with bugs.kde.org...
let's see what happens next. According to some KDE4 jsut highlighted
problems in underlying Xorg, so hopefully now with all of that out in
the open things will get fixed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items

[Dmitry Makovey]

Mick wrote:
 Over here the keys export, keys sign and keys reload are present
 in the drop down menu under Keys as icons, but the textual description
 is missing.
 Same with the main menu buttons.  keys export, keys sign are shown but 
 there are no tooltips when you hover over them.  Otherwise they seem to work 
 fine.
   

yeah, that what I meant... shouldn't have written mails in the middle of
the night. So I guess this is a known state of things? I never used Kgpg
up until I've upgraded my work machine to KDE4 and now I find it quite
surprising that something like that slipped by so many eyes...

[gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

[Dmitry Makovey]

Hi everybody,

I've got an interesting issue today which I half-resolved, but am still
wondering whether I missed something important or did something that'll
bite me in the end.

So here's short story: I've been running older kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r9)
and KDE3 on my laptop(x86,i945) for quite some time. Now with recent
unmasking of KDE4 I went with the flow and upgraded my KDE3 to KDE4
(yep, I know it's still there, slotted etc., but that's not the point).
So, after upgrade I've noticed how painfully slow my KDE4 was. Now,
I've been running KDE4 on my home machine (amd64,nVidia) for quite some
time now (ever since 4.2.0) and never noticed such things (mind you -
it's running another rather dated kernel: 2.6.25-gentoo-r6), so I
started digging. Xorg gave me no real reason for worries other than some
complaints about DRI and the fact that compatible DRI would be part of
kernel-2.6.28+, but I have not enabled any of the effects yet! Well,
so I upgraded kernel, and... my X wouldn't start at all. Actually it did
start but my externally plugged LCD monitor won't show anything. Lid on
my Dell x420 laptop stays closed since I had trouble getting my
1920x1200 resolution on external LCD to cooperate with 1280x800 on
internal one. SysRq saved me trouble of hitting reset too many times. A
bit of digging on google brought me to this xorg.conf (probably
suboptimal as I was adding options and never retracting them looking for
the right combination):

Section Device
Identifier  Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics
Controller
Driver  intel
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
Option  AccelMethod   xaa
Option  monitor-LVDS LVDS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics
Controller 2
Driver  intel
BusID   PCI:0:2:1
Option  AccelMethod   xaa
Option  monitor-LVDS LVDS
EndSection

Section Extensions
Option Composite Enable
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier LVDS
Option Ignore True
 EndSection

Section Module
Load dri
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
Option AIGLX
EndSection

Section DRI
Group video
Mode 0660
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Default
Option XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps true
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1920x1200
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1920x1200
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth 32
Modes 1920x1200
EndSubsection
EndSection

Some of it are hints from KDE folk, some came from other resources.

Not only that but I had recompiled my kernel quite a few times with
pretty much every possible options related to intel graphics on i945
chipsets until I hit the right one. So it's kind of working. BUT - now
every time I end KDE session instead of going back to KDM I'm being
dropped to VT7, closer examination shows that KDM is running, but I
can't get to it on any of the VTs. So I kill it and start again. And
KDE4 itself leaves quite a few artifacts on screen (not entirely sure if
it's related to a few effects I have enabled for usability's sake). KDE4
on my home machine haven't had any of those issues for quite some time
now (it's got different issues though ;) ).

Another annoyance is that with older kernel vesa framebuffer worked
perfectly fine (... video=vesafb:ywrap,mttr,1280x800...@72 ...) and I
was able to have full-screen framebuffered text console with 1280x800
resolution on external LCD. Now I get some viewport-like console where
content is stuck in the upper-left corner (I assume it's resolution is
1280x800) but it didn't scale to full screen.

So my real question is: are there any specific guides I should've
followed instead of playing hit-n-miss? Did I miss something along the
way that produces KDM issues? Do I really have to have an xorg.conf only
to disable certain things? How do I deal with my framebuffer so that my
console looks bit more sane and utilizes all given real estate of 26
monitor and not a mere 50% or so.

Sorry for bundling all those into one mail, but it kind of popped up
altogether so I felt bad about separating it :-D

[gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi all,

is it me, or does Kgpg (KDE4) indeed miss menu items for Keys/export ,
Keys/reload and so forth? I haven't noticed anything like that with
any other application so far so I'm curious if that's something in my
settings, or shall I stroll over to bugs.kde.org and file it?

Re: [gentoo-user] k3b

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On March 17, 2009, Roger Cahn wrote:
 Hi,

 k3b will not emerge, in spite it was emerged before:
 Failed to emerge app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3
 On my laptop it worked fine.

 Here are the flags:

 app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3  USE=alsa dvd dvdr encode hal mp3 vorbis -arts
 -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd
 -xinerama LINGUAS=fr

 Here are the last lines:
...
 make -j2
 make  all-recursive
 make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire «
 /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3/work/k3b-1.0.5 »
 Making all in doc
 make[2]: entrant dans le répertoire «
 /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3/work/k3b-1.0.5/doc »
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook
 /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/dbcentx.mod:80:
 warning: failed to load external entity
 /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/ent/iso-amsn.ent
 %ISOamsn;
  ^
 Entity: line 1:
  %ISOamsn;
   ^

epm -qf 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/ent/iso-amsn.ent

kdelibs-3.5.9-r4

looks like your problem somewhere with kdelibs and not k3b. Either that or 
docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r3 IMO. Try to re-merge those two and then k3b.


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[gentoo-user] KDE-4.2 and KDE-3.5

[Dmitry Makovey]

Hi,

I was tracking KDE-4.x for a while now while sticking to stable KDE-3.5, 
which in gentoo's case is 3.5.9. Trying to get KDE-4.2 installed spits out a 
blocker:

[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10 
(=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10 is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0)

which for me means switching to *2* testing platforms (3.5.10 and 4.2) when I 
want to test only 1 (4.2).

Now my question is: how safe is it to do a workaround, and create local version 
of kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0-r1 ebuild (say, -r2) which removes the block and just 
stick with 3.5.9 on 3.5 side ? I really don't feel like unmasking 3.5.10 builds 
and building them too.

another confusing thing is:
!=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4
!=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10
which I read as you're fine using kde-3.5.9 as long as you don't use 
startkde. kind of weird.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote:
 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  Erm - surely I either need to set up my client to port-knock... which
  is a faff I'd rather avoid... in order to use the technique.
 
  nope. just start connection. wait a minute. cancel. start another one.
  wait a minute. cancel. start new one - voila! :)

 Eeew... especially as this would apply to all connections - even the
 ones where I have a DSA key.  I might be able to cope with this if it
 only applied to my initial connection, from which I could grab a copy of
 the DSA key.

Ok, let's theoreticise some more. My paranoia feels particularly frisky today, 
so here it is:
remember, I've mentioned origianlly that once you authenticate successfully 
once with DSA key - your IP is whitelisted. So subsequent connections go 
right through.

  well. Nobody but you knows your requiremens and specifics - we're just
  listing options. It's up to you to either take 'em or leave 'em ;)

 Fair enough - but I've still not found an option for sharing/using
 shared block lists for bot-nets.

Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and provide simple 
parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a Wiki page - others 
can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then they'd have to 
reveal themselves - tricky situation) :)

P.S.
I think I'd better stop with my mad science projects here before I go too far 
and invent brand new theory on host protection ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 4, 2008, Christian Franke wrote:
 I just don't see what blocking ssh-bruteforce attempts should be good
 for, at least on a server where few _users_ are active.

Considering how much creative paranoia I've exposed in this thread it might 
come as a surprise, but I do agree with the above statement. Strong passwords 
(or key-only authentication) would prevent brute-force attacks from being 
successfull. The only thing that is semi-usefull side-effect is that you can 
identify compromised machines and deny ANY type of traffic from them 
preventing possible DoS launched against you. But then IPs are so easy to 
spoof :) Balance is what makes sysadmin comfortable enough and doesn't 
compromise usability of the server, so everybody decides for themselves. OP 
obviously wants that extra layer of protection and notification so with a 
bit of creativity and some external tools it's possible to achieve. As long 
as he doesn't forget about other aspects of security - he should do just fine 
with all those extra measures :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 4, 2008, Adam Carter wrote:
  Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and
  provide simple
  parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a
  Wiki page - others
  can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then
  they'd have to reveal themselves - tricky situation) :)

 Reveal themselves in what way? If you're taking about source IP, they can
 just use one of their bots to make the page update...

true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote:
 Sure, I could use IPtables to block all these bad ports... or... I could
 disable password authentication entirely... but I keep thinking that
 there has to be something better I can do... any suggestions?  Is there
 a simple way to integrate a block-list of known-compromised hosts into
 IPtables - rather like my postfix is configured to drop connections from
 known spam sources from the sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org DNS block list, for
 example.

I went the path of paswordless entries (i.e. DSA/RSA keys) and I think it 
helped a lot, no botnet/worm/cracker is known to do selective key assembly so 
far and it's a labour-intensive process. I think applying keys is a very good 
step forward (well, and make sure every externally exposed service is 
properly patched and secured ;) ).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote:
 I have, in the past, used DSA only keys - but this was frustrating on
 several occasions when I wanted access to my server and didn't have my
 SSH keys available to me... I almost always connect using a key pair
 rather than a password - but the password option is very useful to allow
 me to get hold of my SSH keys in the first place in some environments.
 If I found a distributed attack on a valid user name, for example, I'd
 consider this a critical change - however inconvenient.

get yourself some portable linux device capable of either USB, ethernet or 
wifi connection (OpenMoko, Nokia NXXX, etc.) plug your keys there - and 
voila, you've got yourelf both secure terminal and key storage in one box. I 
would be highly suspicious initiating SSH connection with my servers from 
untrusted box (which is any box not built and maintained by me ;) ) as there 
is a chance of keylogger (no matter how friendly owner of spoken box is - you 
don't know if he wasn't hacked and you have no time for even casual 
checking).

You can use variation of port-knocking and reverse your strategy based on the 
pattern:

1. drop first connection from specified IP and record it in first_try table
2. drop second connection from specified IP and record it in second_try 
table
3. if IP is in both first_try and second_try - allow it to attempt 
authentication but only with the keys. (removing it from *_try tables and 
possibly recording it in whitelist)
4. if IP fails X number of attempts within specified timeframe - remove from 
whitelist and record in blacklist

bit tricky logic, but fairly simple to implement (I use *BSD PF so no ready 
recipe for iptables here ;) ).

bit paranoid, but it covers your initial concern with distributed attack and 
single-attempts. You can further collect older entries from first_try into 
blacklist and do whatever you please with them. 

You can also collect high-frequency attempts into blacklist and have very big 
blacklist you can sell off on eBay :)

P.S.
I actually don't do any of the above. It was just a surge of creative paranoia 
in response to initial request :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 3, 2008, Paul Hartman wrote:
 Of course, this is assuming the botnet stops after rejected connections...

oh no, not rejected - dropped ;) let them go through pains of timing out 
without knowing if anything is actually listening on the other side ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
  I think using Dmitry's idea of rejecting the first 2 connections, but
  then allowing it as normal on the third attempt would satisfy your
  requirements for being on the normal port, allowing all IPs and
  requiring no special setup on the client end (other than knowing they
  have to to retry twice).

 Erm - surely I either need to set up my client to port-knock... which is
 a faff I'd rather avoid... in order to use the technique.  

nope. just start connection. wait a minute. cancel. start another one. wait a 
minute. cancel. start new one - voila! :)

 While I recognise port knocking as a valuable strategy in some
 circumstances, it seems a very bad fit for my needs.

well. Nobody but you knows your requiremens and specifics - we're just listing 
options. It's up to you to either take 'em or leave 'em ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try.  Now it wants to upgrade my
 KDE3 to KDE4.  I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff.  Any
 options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again?

1st of all, I'm running 2.2.x versions of portage and never had KDE4 magically 
unmasked. You'd better check your setup. I do realize that 2.2.x is not 
2.1.6_rc1, but what I mean - it must be either a bug in portage or your 
setup. Find where the problem originates. Do you have ~arch KDE3 ? I suppose 
you don't run ~arch branch, right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff.  Only KDE3.  Previous
 portage was happy with that.  The new portage is not.  I have dozens of
 packages in package.keywords that look like this:

 kde-base/kdelibs

in which case portage did exactly what you've asked it to. You should've 
mentioned either which specific versions you're unmasking/keywording or 
slots. Either way it's not a bug it's a true feature.

 Now portage wants to install the 4.1 versions of all those.  The
 previous portage did not; I had to tell it to keyword the 4.1 versions
 if I wanted that.

It exhibits proper behavior, what's wrong with that? I'd be surprised if I ran 
system with blanket keyworded kde builds (no slot or version mentioning) and 
portage wouldn't suggest KDE4 install. KDE4 is a successor of KDE3 so it's 
all correct. The fact that you've enabled ~arch builds without consideration 
for future implications doesn't constitute fault on part of portage, sorry. I 
would suggest now and in the future either specify slot or version of package 
you're unmasking unless you *really* know what you're doing.

P.S.
KDE3 and KDE4 would live happily alongside each other as long as you have 
USE=kdeprefix specified in /etc/make.conf .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 25, 2008, Stroller wrote:
 On 25 Nov 2008, at 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  ...
  I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff.  Only KDE3.

 I can't help wondering if that's your problem. You unmasked KDE on
 your own machine... now in the main tree KDE 3 is no longer masked,
 but KDE 4 is available (so your machine thinks you wanted it
 unmasked). I would try removing *everything* KDE-related from /etc/
 portage/package*  trying `emerge -pv world` again.

if Nikos is after 3.5.10 he needs it to be unmasked as it's in ~arch just as 
KDE4 is ;)

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[gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi everybody,

I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of sudden 
konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure something else 
was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is a CSS version 
mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that 4.1.3 was using CSS from 
3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working before. 

so I checked my KDEDIRS environment variable and found out that kde-3.5 was 
listed there (no traces of kde-4.1) and to work around it I just applied 
little script that rewrites KDEDIRS to something more usefull (?) placing it 
under ~/.kde-4.1/env/kde4-kdedirs.sh:

#!/bin/sh
export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local

and this fixed it. Now my question is: is it something about my setup or it's 
happening to others too? Is there a more proper way to fix it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 12, 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 November 2008 18:31:41 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  Hi everybody,
 
  I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of
  sudden konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure
  something else was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is a
  CSS version mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that 4.1.3
  was using CSS from 3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working before.
 
  so I checked my KDEDIRS environment variable and found out that kde-3.5
  was listed there (no traces of kde-4.1) and to work around it I just
  applied little script that rewrites KDEDIRS to something more usefull (?)
  placing it under ~/.kde-4.1/env/kde4-kdedirs.sh:
 
  #!/bin/sh
  export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local
 
  and this fixed it. Now my question is: is it something about my setup or
  it's happening to others too? Is there a more proper way to fix it?

 I had something similar on my first try:

 kde-4 went into /usr
 kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5

 And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with
 USE=kdeprefix to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness went
 away

I've dealt with this in the past too.

I'm pretty sure I have enabled kdeprefix before 4.1.3 merge. I know it's 
there now and emerge -uDNp world doesn't show anything to be rebuilt due to 
useflag change. :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  I had something similar on my first try:
 
  kde-4 went into /usr
  kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5
 
  And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with
  USE=kdeprefix to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness
  went away

 in my opinion installing kde straight into /usr and changing the default
 behaviour is the most stupid thing gentoo devs have done in the last couple
 of years.

wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a sysadmin 
so I really appreciate when things can be easily located universaly). I think 
what failed is communication on that change. In developers defense I'd say 
that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so we've been warned they'll be 
somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs to happen is gentoo users have to 
be warned in big red letters everywhere possible when upgrading from KDE3 to 
KDE4 to make firm decision whether to use kdeprefix or not.

Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear communication 
before marked as stable :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 12, 2008, Peter Alfredsen wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  Hi everybody,
 
  I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of
  sudden konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure
  something else was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is
  a CSS version mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that
  4.1.3 was using CSS from 3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working
  before.

 You need to go fully ~arch on KDE for them to co-exist in a nicer way.

looking at BGO I somehow don't feel too encouraged to go fully ~arch ;)

http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=3.5.10

most of bugs listed above suggest that things break when moving in 3.5.10 
direction. I'm not really prepeared to part with 1 stable platform in favor 
of using 2 unstable ones ;)

I'll have to live with workarounds for a while I think, since I really depend 
on 3.5.x (i.e. fully functional KDE) and 4.1.3 is more of sneak-peek and an 
attempt to adjust/get used to the new way ahead of time :)

Another silly question that bothers me now: KDE3 menu displayes double 
entires for most KDE applications whereas KDE4 doesn't. Did anybody try to 
solve this one (even as a workaround)? This behavior was there ever since I 
first tried KDE-4.0.x.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a
  sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located
  universaly).

 why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good
 thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by
 definition?

any consistency on a system is a good thing. when you deal with N systems you 
really appreciate when things are easily located and could be deducted easily 
even if you don't know where they are. Any standard could easily be 
called stupid but in absense of better alternatives I'd rather 
have stupid standard than none. 

  I think what failed is communication on that change. In
  developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so
  we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs
  to happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere
  possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether
  to use kdeprefix or not.

 it would have been better to NOT introduce that kdeprefix flag and instead
 introducing a FHS flag - which should have been off by default. The current
 way - kdeprefix to get sane behaviour, that turned off, changing the
 default behaviour is either stupid or evil.

see, that depends on your perspective and long term goal. Like Alan mentioned 
in his post: if long-term strategy is to have gentoo more FHS-friendly (for 
whatever reasons) then default compliance is a good thing, if long-term 
solution is to keep doing things in non-FHS-way (a.k.a. gentoo-way ;) ) then 
your suggestion is a more viable one. So the real question you want to 
ask: Is gentoo as a whole intends to be FHS compliant in the future? What 
are the reasons for that? Can I opt-out?. For myself I think I know answers 
for the last two, but for you, I guess you'd have to find out yourself. What 
would be interesting to know for the entire group is the answer to the first 
question: Is gentoo as a whole intends to be FHS compliant in the future?. 
Does anybody know the answer?

  Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear
  communication before marked as stable :)

 Like making kde update interactive? Require a 'yes, I know about kdeprefix'
 dialog box?

no. there are simplier alternatives. Read Alan's post, and as an alternative 
here's my take: you can fail building any kde build if state of kdeprefix 
is undefined in /etc/make.conf. So you'd have to have that either explicitely 
enable or disable there. Not sure if that'd be easy to implement with current 
portage EAPI (not flaming - just don't know ;) )

 kde has always been in its own directory tree. /opt back in the suse days
 for example. Elderly kde documentation told people to install kde in its
 own sub tree - and I loved that. I always hated gnome for cluttering /usr
 with its garbage. Having a big project like kde in its own tree has a
 bazillion of advantages.

I can list quite a few disadvantages as well. So it boils down to the matter 
of personal preference and the direction that gentoo dev team chose for the 
future. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice 3 broken?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 4, 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
  I'm back to MSOffice.  I hate it but it works.

Sorry, might be coming late to this discussion and offering something that was 
already offered, but how about openoffice-bin ? It works for me 100% of the 
time on several workstations without a glitch (both x86 and amd64)? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu working but invisible

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 14, 2008, Matt Harrison wrote:
 I ran grub-install as normal and it (apparently) installed the
 bootloader without problems.

 However, now, when I boot up, I don't get a grub menu or anything on the
 screen. Originally I thought there was a problem and my system wouldn't
 boot but I tried pressing return and it booted up without problems.

same here on 2 independent machines. Each one exhibits same problem. It's not 
completely broken but sure as heck is annoying. Did I miss some new 
configuration step you have to do with Grub?

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[gentoo-user] KDE-4.0.4 (not a nag)

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi everybody,

does anybody know what's happening to KDE4 in gentoo land ? Gentoo-KDE folks 
were pretty responsive with previous 4.0.x releases updating portage tree 
etc., but now I can't find much updates on what's happening with 4.0.4. Was 
it 3.5.9 preparations that took priority?

Note: this message is not a nag, it's just my curiosity speaking (well and 
desire to finally switch to KDE4 as 4.0.3 had some glitches and functionality 
gaps that prevented my permanent switch so far).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does firefox always do DNS query for www.gentoo.org?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On January 29, 2008, Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 29 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:31:19PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
   On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Shaochun Wang wrote:
Currently, I find that firefox always try to a dns query for
www.gentoo.org when it starts. I don't know the reason.
  
   Could it be you made it its startup page?
 
  When I emerge a new version of firefox, it always loads that page the
  first time it runs; it annoys me too.  But it only happens to me the
  first start after a new build.

 It used to be the case that FF would search in advance for the Google or
 whichever search engine of choice you have selected (on the top RH search
 window) by prefetching some relevant pages.  Could this have something to
 do with your case?  Other than that my guess is that you have setup Gentoo
 in some place within FF, or one of its extensions and it loads, or
 prefetches the page in question.  A search through its config might help.

I had impression that FF does checks of pages in your Bookmarks every once in 
a while which includes updating icon etc. Could that be it? Snoop on the wire 
to see what does it fetch (sorry, I don't have head of this thread so I don't 
know if you've done this already).

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[gentoo-user] KDE4 and kalgebra

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

I decided to take KDE4 for a spin and sync'd + unmasked all needed components, 
however build for kalgebra bombs (messages at the end of email).

Before I go to bgo or bko can somebody tell me if I'm not missing something 
obvious? I did check that Graph3D seems to be comming from Qt-4 and Qt *is* 
built with OpenGL support which should cover those Graph3D functions, 
correct?

[100%] Building CXX object kalgebra/src/CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/functionimpl.o
Linking CXX executable kalgebra
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::new_func3d()':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0x189): undefined reference to `Graph3D::setFunc(Expression 
const)'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::save3DGraph()':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0xefd): undefined reference to `Graph3D::toPixmap()'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::KAlgebra(QWidget*)':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0x26eb): undefined reference to 
`Graph3D::Graph3D(QWidget*)'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::KAlgebra(QWidget*)':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0x3dfb): undefined reference to 
`Graph3D::Graph3D(QWidget*)'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_solid()':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0x8d): undefined reference to 
`Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_lines()':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0xad): undefined reference to 
`Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)'
CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_dots()':
algebra.cpp:(.text+0xca): undefined reference to 
`Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [kalgebra/src/kalgebra] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kalgebra/src/CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2


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Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On January 8, 2008, Daniel Iliev wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:23:58 +0200

 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Daniel Iliev wrote:
   On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:11:09 +0200

 --snip--

  Am I correct in saying you plan to emerge mplayer with a few extra
  params and not much else customizing? In that case the mods you will
  make are simple and need to be done just once. Then paste the same
  changes into a new ebuild each time you want to upgrade

 Actually the changes I want to make are not so few. The whole story is
 that several days ago a friend of mine pointed me to a very cool
 front-end for mplayer: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/
 Unfortunately it can't be found in portage yet.

http://smplayer.wiki.sourceforge.net/Contributed+Packages

lists Berkano Overlay as a source for ebuild. You might want to check it out 
before you go too far building your own :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 fresh install woes (configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.???)

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On November 27, 2007, Philip Webb wrote:
 071127 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  I decided that the time has come to switch over to 64bit computing
  and went with fresh LiveDVD install of gentoo.
  After doing stage3 install and making syncing portage
  I'm failing updates on gcc and sandbox - both complaining:
'configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs'

 I recently installed 64-bit Gentoo on a newly-built machine
  had something very similar happen with Gcc  Sandbox.
 Try recompiling your kernel with support for
 'Executable file formats/emulations - [x] IA32'.

Thanks! that was it! After 3 days of fiddling I finally got my 64bit system up 
and running from scratch. Couple of things that suck is the inability to 
apply same GUI style to 32-bit apps so that they look exatly the same as 
64bit (gtk-engines-qt etc.) but that's a minor issue. Most importantly all 
apps do work so far.

 You may also later need for some other pkgs
 'app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs'  some of its brothers.

that got pulled in with mozilla-firefox-bin :)

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[gentoo-user] amd64 fresh install woes (configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.???)

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi all,

Little history:
like many on this ML I decided that the time has come to switch over to the 
64bit computing and went with fresh LiveDVD install of gentoo.

Cruel reality:
After doing stage3 install and making syncing portage I'm failing updates on 
gcc and sandbox - both complaining:

configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.

for sandbox there was a suggestion of turning off sandbox in FEATURES. I did 
that. In fact my FEATURES is absolutely empty at this point and it's still a 
no-go.

Now before I go and post this in bugs.gentoo.org I'd like to know if maybe 
it's an 64-bit FAQ and I'm doing something wrong. Any 
pointers/suggestions/directions are appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] OT: forum - mailing list software

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

It's a bit off-topic, however I have no other place to ask this question:

Which online forum systems offer bi-directional gateway with email system. 
Examples:

* user posts on forum - email is being sent to subscribers (that one almost 
any forum out there has out-of-the-box)

* user replies to email sent by forum software and his/her reply gets posted 
in appropriate thread of that forum (that is what's important) sending out 
subsequent notifications to other subscribers of that forum.

Now I need software that does *both*. Is there any software that does it. 
Can't quite figure out approriate query for Google to find one. PhpBB doesn't 
have any info on that subject and I didn't run any forum software in the 
past.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

[Dmitry]

Hi,

what the portage tree (or may be an overlay) you use ?
I use ~x86, and it provides this version:

* Latest version available: 8.35.5

by the way, ati-drivers-8.35.5  +  2.6.19-gentoo-r3 +  xorg-server-1.2.0-r3 
work fine for me

Francisco Rivas wrote:

 All right, well you can prove with kernel 2.6.19 and 8.36 ati-drivers if
 you
 want to keep that kernel.
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

[Dmitry]

Hello,

I've never tried to run X without config, but.. I see that your output 
shows:

(EE) Unable to locate/open config file

is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf okay ?



 Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 Hi

 This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my
 question is somewhat trivial.

 So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following error
 message:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
 xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857

 X Window System Version 7.2.0
 Release Date: 22 January 2007
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
 Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue
 May 8 19:5
 0:52 GMT 2007 i686
 Build Date: 05 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Module Loader present
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file

 New driver is ati
 (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
 (EE) Failed to load module ati (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module vesa (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module vga (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module mouse (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module kbd (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) No drivers available.

 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
 Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

 
 Johannes, it might be worth taking a look at the following:
 
 Info about setting up Xorg's open or ATI closed source drivers:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
 
 Setting up ATI closed source drivers:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
 
 
 Also, what model is your ATI card?
 
 
 Cheers
 
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[gentoo-user] amarok, last.fm and recent updates

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Hi everybody,

after recent updates (emerge --sync  emerge -uDN world) amarok stopped 
working with http://last.fm streams. I've experienced same behavior on two 
separate machines. First I've noticed it on my home machine but thought maybe 
something changed with last.fm and amarok can't connect to it period. To my 
surprise my workstation in the office was still working fine (until updates 
that is). After I updated my workstation in the office amarok stopped picking 
last.fm streams there too.

I did revdep-rebuild with no success. I also re-merged ruby (as some of amarok 
scripts are written in ruby) and amarok just to be sure - nothing helped so 
far.

Here's a list of packages I've updated in case that helps any:

 Tue Apr 10 09:42:12 2007  dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1
 Tue Apr 10 09:42:25 2007  net-misc/dhcpcd-3.0.16
 Tue Apr 10 09:50:23 2007  sys-libs/ncurses-5.6
 Tue Apr 10 09:50:50 2007  sys-apps/man-1.6e-r1
 Tue Apr 10 09:51:38 2007  sys-apps/man-pages-2.44
 Tue Apr 10 09:58:10 2007  sys-libs/db-4.3.29-r2
 Tue Apr 10 10:06:06 2007  sys-devel/gdb-6.6-r2
 Tue Apr 10 10:06:37 2007  app-text/unrtf-0.20.1
 Tue Apr 10 10:06:53 2007  dev-perl/HTML-Tagset-3.10
 Tue Apr 10 10:06:59 2007  virtual/perl-libnet-1.19
 Tue Apr 10 10:07:18 2007  dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.51-r1
 Tue Apr 10 10:07:34 2007  dev-perl/Parse-Yapp-1.05-r1
 Tue Apr 10 10:07:49 2007  dev-perl/libxml-perl-0.08
 Tue Apr 10 10:08:09 2007  dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.55
 Tue Apr 10 10:08:22 2007  dev-perl/XML-RegExp-0.03-r1
 Tue Apr 10 10:08:39 2007  dev-perl/URI-1.35
 Tue Apr 10 10:08:53 2007  dev-perl/HTML-Tree-3.23
 Tue Apr 10 10:09:15 2007  dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.805
 Tue Apr 10 10:09:31 2007  dev-perl/XML-DOM-1.44
 Tue Apr 10 10:09:45 2007  dev-perl/XML-XQL-0.68
 Tue Apr 10 10:11:06 2007  sys-apps/file-4.20-r1
 Tue Apr 10 10:11:37 2007  dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4
 Tue Apr 10 10:14:50 2007  dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.11
 Tue Apr 10 10:16:53 2007  dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r4
 Tue Apr 10 10:26:24 2007  net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.6-r2
 Tue Apr 10 10:26:45 2007  app-portage/layman-1.0.10
 Tue Apr 10 10:27:36 2007  www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.3
 Tue Apr 10 10:53:48 2007  media-gfx/inkscape-0.45.1
 Tue Apr 10 12:08:15 2007  media-sound/lastfmplayer-1.1.3-r1
 Tue Apr 10 12:52:15 2007  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10
 Tue Apr 10 12:54:28 2007  sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r2
 Tue Apr 10 13:03:09 2007  media-gfx/kphotoalbum-3.0


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[gentoo-user] dynamic apache configuration

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Somewhat offtopic question, but here it goes:

does anybody know of a module for apache that will use database to suck in 
part of apache http.conf file? What I need is dynamicaly manage my apache 
host with as few FS writes as possible. I remember seeing such a thing long 
time ago. Now I coudn't find it. mod_vhost doesn't cut it since I need full 
access to pretty muc all apache statements.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic apache configuration

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Friday 15 December 2006 13:49, Alan wrote:
 Perl
 #!perl
 foreach my $host ( qw( foo bar baz) ) {

push @PerlConfig, EOF;
 VirtualHost xx.xx.169.216:80
   DocumentRoot   /home/httpd/vhosts/${host}.com/
   ServerName ${host}.com
   ServerAliaswww.${host}.com
   DirectoryIndex index.html index.shtml index.htm index.php
   CustomLog  /usr/local/apache/logs/${host}-access.log common
   ErrorLog   /usr/local/apache/logs/${host}-error.log
 [...] you get the picture
   ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/vhosts/${host}.com/cgi-bin/
 /VirtualHost

 EOF
 }
 __END__
 /Perl

 Mod_Perl docs have more info, but that's the gist of it.

that's pretty close, thanks. My only worry is how do I hook up database into 
it so that I don't initiate connection with MySQL per-request, but rather 
have some pooling or otherwise reuse same connection since there are not 
updates - only selects.

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[gentoo-user] FTP sync between two local servers

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I need to synchronize two local FTP servers in real-time. I've installed
proftpd on each servers.

Many thanks in any advance!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] proftpd can't start !

[Dmitry Gorohov]

Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 Hi list!
 I can't start my proftpd!
 
 # proftpd
 - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'localhost' error: Name or service not known
 
 then:
 # /etc/init.d/proftpd start
 * Starting proftpd ...  
 [ !! ]
 
 And my /etc/hosts is :
 127.0.0.1localhost  wcw-gentoo
 
 How can i set this problem?
 Thanks advanced!
 
 
Can you post your proftpd.conf here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo box hangs

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Friday 06 October 2006 00:58, Mick wrote:
 I've run memtest86+ a number of times and no errors were shown. 
 There's a whole thread (either in this ML or in the forums) as to
 why memtest is not a foolproof test for your *system* as opposed to
 a memory module.  Try to search around and look in Google too, in
 case you find it.  There's alternative tests to memtest involving
 running some script (if I remember right). As I said, whichever
 test you run you need to make sure that it exercises your whole
 memory system (modules, controllers, swap).

 Good luck.  :)

 PS.  My box would also crash in M$Windoze if the page file was
 being used (e.g. manipulating large sections of text or pictures),
 but not at the frequency of it crashing under Gentoo with a heavy
 emerge and updatedb taking place.

Thanks it helps to know that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo box hangs

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:24, Mick wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 October 2006 21:01, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  To eliminate KDE problem I tried to run fluxbox with Firefox 
  xterm - same results - hard freeze.
 
  Did anybody see something similar or at least some educated
  guesses are welcome.

 Last time I experienced something like this was on a desktop which
 had incompatible memory modules fitted.  Trial and error resulted
 in me removing all but one module and the crashes miraculously
 stopped!  Knoppix alone would not cause any crashes whatsoever, but
 as soon as updatedb and an emerge were to take place
 simultaneously, the system would crash.  In particular, it would
 usually crash when the memory of the modules was about to be
 exhausted and the system was going to start writing on the swap
 partition.  It wouldn't happen every single time, but towards the
 end it was happening every time I booted the darn thing up.

thanks for sharing. One question I have - did you run memtest86 or 
something similar at the time? The reason I'm asking - I ran 
memtest86 on this machine and it showed nothing. I'm not entirely 
sure how much I can trust memtest.
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[gentoo-user] gentoo box hangs

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

I've got a problem that makes me think it's a HW problem but I'm 
trying to cover all bases. 

Here's what happened:
Last monday I did my regular emerge --sync  emerge -uDN world all 
nice and dandy. After that, according to my log files anyway, I did 
not install a thing. I never rebooted my machine since, except that I 
think on Thursday it hung up on me so I rebooted it - that's when it 
started to freeze up on me randomly every now and then.

At first given all the facts I thought it was HW problem. Right now 
I'm running Knoppix off the same machine and it didn't freeze up on 
me even once. That makes me thing it's an OS issue. 

To eliminate OS I did emerge -e system yet still system freezes up. I 
can do emerge -e world but I doubt it's going to help.

To eliminate KDE problem I tried to run fluxbox with Firefox  
xterm - same results - hard freeze.

Did anybody see something similar or at least some educated guesses 
are welcome.

Oh, by the way - it's a laptop - IBM X31, the rest is: 


Portage 2.1.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop, gcc-4.1.1, 
glibc-2.4-r3, 2.6.17 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.17 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.5
Last Sync: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:30:01 +
distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 
3632) [disabled]
app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present]
dev-java/java-config: 1.2.11-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r3, 2.4.3-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]
dev-util/confcache:  [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -msse 
-msse2
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config 
/usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ 
/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ 
/usr/share/texmf/xdvi/
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash 
/etc/terminfo
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -msse 
-msse2
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig buildpkg collision-protect distlocks 
metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict userpriv usersandbox
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://gentoo.gg3.net/ 
http://ftp.gentoo.or.kr/ http://mymirror.asiaosc.org/gentoo/ 
http://gentoo.channelx.biz/ http://gentoo.kems.net;
LANG=C
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
LINGUAS=en
MAKEOPTS=-j1
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 
--exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 X Xaw3d acpi acpi4linux alsa arts artworkextra audiofile 
authdaemond avantgo ba-completion bcmath berkdb bindist bitmap-fonts 
bluetooth bootsplash cairo caps cdparanoia cdr chroot cli codecs 
crypt css cups dbus divx4linux djvu dlloader dnd doc dri dv dvb dvd 
dvdr dvdread elibc_glibc emboss encode esd exif fam fbcon fbdev 
ffmpeg firefox flac font-server fortran gamma gdbm gif gimp gimpprint 
glep glgd gpm graphviz gs gstreamer gtk hal iconv icq idea ieee1394 
imagekits imagemagick imap imlib2 innodb input_devices_evdev 
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 irda irmc isdnlog 
j2ee jabber jpeg jpeg2k kde kernel_linux koffice-plugin ldap libg++ 
libgd linguas_en live lynxkeymap lzo lzw lzw-tiff mad madwifi mikmod 
mime mimencode ming mmx mmx2 mng monkey mozcalendar mozdevelop 
mozsha1 mozsvg mozxmlterm mp3 mpeg mplayer msn ncurses netbeans nls 
nojython nptl nptlonly oci8 ogg opengl opens oracle7 orathreads oscar 
oss pam pcmcia pcre pda pdf pdfkit perl png pnp postgresql ppds pppd 
python qt3 qt4 quicktime radeon readline reflection samba sdl serial 
session skey smartcard smime sndfile snmp speedo speex spell spl sse 
sse2 ssl tcpd tga threads tidy transcode truetype truetype-fonts 
type1 type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vcd video_cards_radeon 
video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga videos vidix vim vim-with-x vorbis 
webdav win32codecs xanim xinerama xml xml2 xmlrpc xorg xosd xpm 
xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc yahoo zeo zlib
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, 
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

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[gentoo-user] xorg and freetype/type1

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Did anybody find xorg destabilize after enabling freetype/type1 
modules ? 

My machine freezes up randomly after I activate those two.

My config:

Pentium M 1.6
IBM ThinkPad X31
gcc (GCC) 3.4.6 (Gentoo 3.4.6-r1, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuild video drivers after kernel compile?

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Thursday 07 September 2006 08:34, A. R. wrote:
  With modular Xorg, do you still need to re-build your video
  drivers after every time you re-compile a kernel?

 You have to rebuild those drivers that have been obtained outside
 the standard kernel source tree. This applies to all types of
 drivers, not only video drivers, for example:

 ati-drivers   (video)
 nvidia-drivers (video)
 ipw2100 (wireless)
 ivtv (pvr card)


 This is is independent from modular X.

better yet - get a habbit of using module-rebuild every time after 
you run genkernel ;)

References:

sys-kernel/module-rebuild
sys-kernel/genkernel

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[gentoo-user] problem with upgrading Xorg from 6.8.2 up to 7.0

[Dmitry]

Hi,

I'm trying to upgrde Xorg from 6.8.2 up to 7.0 following this instruction 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
I unemerged Xoorg 6.8.2 and now trying to emerge 7.0.
emerge told me there are about 180 dependes must be installed, it installed 
about 40 of them and has failed at cairo emerging:


below is the tail:
---cut---
/var/tmp/portage/cairo-1.2.2/work/cairo-1.2.2/config.log
appending configuration tag CXX to libtool
checking for ld used by i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++... /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ linker 
(/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ static flag -static works... yes
checking if i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ linker 
(/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
appending configuration tag F77 to libtool
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking for vasnprintf... no
checking for cos in -lm... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-pkg-config... no
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for X... no
checking for cairo's Xlib backend...
checking whether cairo's Xlib backend could be enabled... no (requires Xlib)
configure: error: requested Xlib backend could not be enabled

!!! Please attach the following file when filing a report to bugs.gentoo.org:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/cairo-1.2.2/work/cairo-1.2.2/config.log


!!! ERROR: x11-libs/cairo-1.2.2 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1543:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 938:   Called src_compile
  cairo-1.2.2.ebuild, line 49:   Called econf '--enable-xlib' 
'--disable-gtk-doc' '--disable-directfb' '--enable-png' '--disable-svg'
'--disable-pdf' '--disable-glitz' '--enable-freetype' '--enable-ps'
  ebuild.sh, line 539:   Called die

!!! econf failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if 
relevant.

---end of cut---



does anybody know how to fix that ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Gentoo WinXP dualboot setup

[Dmitry Mashkovskiy]

Hi again! I'm late a little :)


I believe the problem is that Windows expect to be installed on the 
first disk

and when it is not it fail to start.

Try adding this before the rootnoverify line:

map hd0 hd1
map hd1 hd0

This will make the bios change the order of the disks and Windows will
hopefully be happy again.

/Andreas


Thanks a lot, Andreas, it works.
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[gentoo-user] Issues with Gentoo WinXP dualboot setup

[Dmitry Mashkovskiy]

Hello,

I've successfully set up Gentoo on the machine with ABIT IS7 motherboard 
and two SATA disks (integrated controller on ICH5 chipset, I guess). The 
first one is Seagate (Ch2 M. (master?) in BIOS) with WinXP, the second 
is Maxtor (Ch3 M. in BIOS) with Gentoo and GRUB in MBR. One problem is 
that I cannot boot in Windows while booting with GRUB. Here is my grub.conf:

-
default 0
timeout 10

title=Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-r6
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/sdb3 irqpoll
-
I get only

Booting 'Windows XP'
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

and then machine hangs. So I have to set Seagate drive as a boot device 
in BIOS in order to boot Windows. How can I work it out? Should I 
install GRUB in the MBR of Windows disk?
Another problem is that sometimes machine freezes or falls in kernel 
panic while booting Gentoo (usually on probing ATA devices). I suppose 
it may be due to buggy/broken hardware but it would be nice to find some 
solution or workaround.



Thanks in advance,
D.
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[gentoo-user] USB weirdness

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

Is it my problem or is it a generic problem:

My install of Gentoo (2006.0 profile with latest versions of 
gentoo-kernel etc.) doesn't recognize events happening on USB bus. 
i.e.: in order to use my multicard reader it has to be plugged in 
upon boot - otherwise it's not recognized. Furthermore - if I unplug 
it and plug it back in - can't get to device at all. 

I checked to have coldplug and hotplug to be activated/deactivated on 
boot etc. and all combination I've tried didn't help. I also tried to 
enable USB debugging checking if there is any data comming from USB 
and it seems like nothing is comming in. Same CardReader works fine 
with Offtopic OS just fine it seems.

Actually same happened to my PDA (Sony Clie) - after I unplug 
cardreader - Gentoo wouldn't recognize my PDA being plugged in on 
same USB. At some point (I think it was before switching to 2.6 
kernel) it all worked just fine.

In case if this is of any relevance - my MB is Tyan Tiger MP 2460, my 
card reader is Lacie 6-in-1. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] QT 4

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:11, James wrote:
 Hello,

 Has anyone any experiences with developing software with QT4?

 checking whats available, with 'emerge -pv qt', I see:
 x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8

 Nothing else... If I add x11-libs/qt to the package.keywords
 file, I get
 x11-libs/qt-4.1.1

 after editing the package.keyword file, If I run emerge -uDp world,
 it want to upgrade qt:
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r9 [3.3.4-r8]

since packages you use (I assume KDE etc.) are not using qt4 (i.e. 
require specifically qt3 branch) portage doesn't find any reasons to 
bump version of qt. AFAIR Qt is a slotted package and you can safely 
go ahead and do 
emerge =x11-libs/qt-4.1.1 
but you packages wouldn't use it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: QT 4

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Thursday 16 March 2006 15:03, James wrote:
 Dmitry S. Makovey dmitry at athabascau.ca writes:
  since packages you use (I assume KDE etc.) are not using qt4
  (i.e. require specifically qt3 branch) portage doesn't find any
  reasons to bump version of qt. AFAIR Qt is a slotted package and
  you can safely go ahead and do
  emerge =x11-libs/qt-4.1.1
  but you packages wouldn't use it.

 Ok this kinda makes sense. But what exactly is a 'slotted package',
 how do I determine when a packages is slotted, and where do I read
 more about 'slotted'? I see this term used ofen, but, really have
 no clue exactly what slotted means or if it has various meanings
 based on the context of it's (verbiage) usage.

in /usr/portage/x11-libs/qt/qt-4.1.1.ebuild check the line SLOT=4 
and compare it to /usr/portage/x11-libs/qt/qt-3.3.5.ebuild:
SLOT=3

which indicates that those installed in different slots (in basic 
terms - those could be installed side by side without affecting 
existing applications unless they explicitly dependant on specific Qt 
version).

there are quite a few slotted packages in portage so you might bump 
into this every now and then (KDE is slotted AFAIR).

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[gentoo-user] iptables question

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

somewhat offtopic, but since I need any help I can get:

how do I redirect trafic from outward facing interface 
(192.168.1.114:80) to loopback device (127.0.0.1:80) ?

my most obvious trick:
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.114 --dport 80 \
-j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:80
and 
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
didn't help. Machine which is opening connection is hanging there 
indefinitely...

what did I miss?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables question

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Friday 20 January 2006 13:41, James wrote:
 #for unlimited traffic on the loopback interface
 iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT

since I've done my flushing all my rules are nice and permissive ;)

dimon2 ~ # iptables -t filter -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
dimon2 ~ # iptables -t nat -L
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

So I doubt I need specific rules for lo or any other device except 
for NAT rules to redirect my traffic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On Friday 20 January 2006 13:49, Trenton Adams wrote:
 Under the *nat rule,

 -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to
 192.168.7.1:443

 Under the *filter rules.

 -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp
 --dport 443 -j ACCEPT

I tried similar combination as well to no avail. :(

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[gentoo-user] Trouble after recompiling the kernel

[Dmitry Comoda]

I don't remeber exactly what I did to the kernel, but I remember that I have
compiled modules unloading, modules forced unloading and orinoco drivers.
Now I have this while booting and I only can pass that hitting Ctrl+c, otherwise
system won't boot. When I try to reboot the system, I also get stuck, however
at this time when pcmcia package unloaded. In this case, I use the same Ctrl+C,
followed by explicit shutdown now command, otherwise system won't shutdown.
I'd appreciate some ideas how this can be fixed. Thanks in advance.

Dmitry.


Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 245c89dd
 printing eip:
c020fc7e
*pde = 
Oops:  [#1]
PREEMPT 
Modules linked in: ltserial ltmodem pl2303 dm_mod
CPU:0
EIP:0060:[c020fc7e]Tainted: PF VLI
EFLAGS: 00010297   (2.6.13-ck7) 
EIP is at vsnprintf+0x35e/0x4f0
eax: 245c89dd   ebx: 000a   ecx: 245c89dd   edx: fffe
esi: cfa3c010   edi:    ebp: cfa3cfff   esp: cf869ea4
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process cut (pid: 4856, threadinfo=cf868000 task=cfd2e5f0)
Stack: cfa3c00e cfa3cfff   000a    
     cf69f660 d1151620 cf69f660 d1151520 c0181897 cfa3c010 
   0ff0 c043a022 cf869f04 d11eb6d0 c01352db cf69f660 c043a021 245c89dd 
Call Trace:
 [c0181897] seq_printf+0x37/0x60
 [d11eb6d0]1Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 
4b87ad8c
 printing eip:
c0137566
*pde = 
Oops:  [#2]
PREEMPT 
Modules linked in: ltserial ltmodem pl2303 dm_mod
CPU:0
EIP:0060:[c0137566]Tainted: PF VLI
EFLAGS: 00010097   (2.6.13-ck7) 
EIP is at get_ksymbol+0x66/0x1f0
eax: 0784   ebx: d124dde0   ecx: 4b87ad6e   edx: 0010
esi: cf869ef4   edi: d11eb6d0   ebp: 0001   esp: cf869b24
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process cut (pid: 4856, threadinfo=cf868000 task=cfd2e5f0)
Stack:  007f 0001 00ff d121bb75  d11eb6d0 cf869ef4 
   c050d450 0001 c01381fb d124dde0 d11eb6d0 cf869b8c cf869b90 d11eb6d0 
   cf869ef4 cf868000 0001 c0138269 d11eb6d0 cf869b8c cf869b90 cf869b94 
Call Trace:
 [d11eb6d0]1Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 
4b87ad8c
 printing eip:
c0137566
*pde = 
Recursive die() failure, output suppressed

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On October 21, 2005 02:30 pm, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 sorry by the way I put it Jeff I got to angry when All my
 services stop working after an ( what should be simple ) update
 .

Allan ,don't get me wrong - Im not trying to pin you, I just want 
to point out that computers and software tend to fail, so whenever 
you're updating/upgrading one or the other you *have to* have backup 
plan. In most scenarios having production machine means that you 
*have to* have development machine working in parallel (ideally 
identical to production machine in all respects) - any changes to 
production machine should be tried/tested on development machine 
first. Being sysadmin for about 7 years now I know that things do 
happen and you have to be ready/prepeared for everything. 

Another point is to go with the lowest resistance path - update only 
GLSA's and do full-blown upgrades only when you plan them carefully 
and test'em out on development box.

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[gentoo-user] Ltmodem won't autoload?

[Dmitry Comoda]

Hi everybody,

I have recently emerged ltmodem,but it won't autoload. Previously
I have never had any troubles to use it, but now.. When I modprobe
ltmodem and ltserial, it works and probably I will be able to add
them to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 , but I doubt it's the right
way and there are lt_autoload binaries in /sbin. Is that udev? Any
ideas and files to check? Thanks much.

Dmitry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

[Dmitry Lukashin]

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:00:46 +0200
Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 | 1. Which dynamic DNS provider do you prefer and why (I would prefer
 | a free one)?
 
 www.zoneedit.com
 
 I won't say I prefer it, I only tried this one and never felt the
 need to change; it is free
 

I have negative emotions about them. They have limitation only to five
domain names. I was tried to add my five domain names there. Four
domains appeared in them servers in more than week. I'm still waiting
for appearing 5th domain (more than month :)

Of course I didn't contact them support, just changed DNS provider...

btw, I think its not the best service for dynamic DNS :-)

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[gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp 
I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week 
it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does 
anybody know what might trigger this behavior?

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Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 18, 2005 09:34 am, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge
  -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is
  one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to
  another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior?

 This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD
 it will be upgraded.

 You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;)

looks like it's the case here except that I like my -uDNp as 
system became bit more stable since I started using D and every 
time I upgrade it picks up everything I need and I didn't have to ask 
it twice :) Oh well, maybe -D is a minor drawback and I can survive 
occasional rebuild of libgsf :) 

Thanks a lot for the tip.. it all makes sense now. At least I know now 
what's going on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 18, 2005 11:23 am, Tero Grundström wrote:
  This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a
  -uD it will be upgraded.
 
  You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;)

 I wouldn't throw away -uDNp just because of this.

 On my system there are only two packages that depend on libgsf:

 gnumeric =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.10*
 librsvg  =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.6

 So librsvg can survive with an libgsf version as old as 1.6.

 My solution has been adding these lines to
 /etc/portage/package.mask: =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0
 =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1

I would lean towards abovementioned solution as it is 1) gentoo-way :) 
2) is not destructive and if something requires higher version of 
libgsf it'll complain about masked package and I can deal with it 
then. 

Thanks for usefull tip... Live and learn as they say :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 18, 2005 12:21 pm, Zac Medico wrote:
 mkdir /etc/portage
 echo gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0  /etc/portage/package.mask

that would actually produce negative effects on gnumeric so I'd rather 
do as other post (by Tero) suggests: mask higher version as no 
package is requiring it anyway. But thanks for stepping in the 
discussion :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

For archiving purposes:

I've finally fixed my machine up with as follows:

1. chosen kernel was 2.6.12-r5 as it fixes ugly bug with iptables 
which takes ages for applications to load.

2. configured grub without using initrd

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda11 
video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose

After doing all that system became usable again and boots with no 
glitch. Thanks everybody for help.

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[gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual

genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all

produced unbootable system :(
Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's 
what I have in grub.conf:

title  Gentoo linux (updated)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 
real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount
 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n


I've tried to follow those:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ

But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too 
far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet?

Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't 
think it's exact output):

-install: applet not found
/init: 41: ln: not found
/init: 45: cat: not found
...
 Loading modules
/init: 172: touch: not found
/init: 172: cat: not found
/init: 172: sed: not found
...
 Activating udev
/init: 178: mkdir: not found
/sbin/udevstart: not found
-=*something about not being able to mount root partition*=-
(boot)::

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual
 
  genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all

 Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using
 genkernel)?

Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel 
does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for 
devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).



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 Aj.

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote:
 Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
 initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line
 from grub if you want to eliminate it.

So if I understand correctly something like:

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose

should produce desired results (i.e. bootable system)?
If yes - I've got quite a few error messages about missing symbols in 
kernel modules on boot :( But I've tries so many combinations already 
that it could've been attributed to other changes I've made. So I'll 
try it again and come back if problem persists (or if you'll tell me 
my assumptions are wrong).

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote:
  Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
  initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line
  from grub if you want to eliminate it.

 So if I understand correctly something like:

 title  Gentoo linux (update)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11
 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose

finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination:

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 
video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose


But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after 
login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it 
happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms 
like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got 
so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going 
on I should be aware of?


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Re: [gentoo-user] (Was:KDE 3.4.1 released) Removing arts

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On June 2, 2005 01:04 pm, Andreas Karlsson wrote:
 I dont want to start a flamewar here but I dont see the reason
 why KDE insists on using arts. Why not just route all sounds
 through alsa? Or has it to do with some cards limitations for
 harwaremixing?

because there are more platforms than just linux and not all the 
platforms have ALSA. There are more reasons than that but this is the 
most obvious. Arts was single gateway to whatever soundsystem your OS 
provides for entire KDE in contrast to each application being smart 
enough to recognize what and how to use with each OS.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub prblems...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On May 25, 2005 06:36 pm, James Hiscock wrote:
  After recent update of the system my GRUB became partially
  broken. Namely: default saved/savedefault statements stopped
  working. Is it me or it's a common problem and how do I fix it. I
  attach my grub.conf for those who might be interested...

 Once you've managed to boot your system, run grub-set-default.
 It'll create /boot/grub/default, and then the savedefault stuff
 will work properly.

 ...at least, that's what fixed it for me...

Hmm. I ran grub-set-default and is still complains... maybe something 
in my config is wrong? Would you care to share your config?


 Seems to apply to sys-boot/grub-0.96-r1...

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[gentoo-user] grub prblems...

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

After recent update of the system my GRUB became partially broken. 
Namely: default saved/savedefault statements stopped working. Is 
it me or it's a common problem and how do I fix it. I attach my 
grub.conf for those who might be interested...

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timeout 30

default saved
fallback 1
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title  Gentoo linux
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose
 initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r6
 savedefault fallback
 
title  Gentoo linux (previous)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc vga=0F01 
 initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r5
 savedefault fallback
 
title  Gentoo linux (resume)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-2.6.7-gentoo-r11 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc vga=0x317 splash=verbose resume=/dev/hda10
 initrd /initrd-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
 savedefault fallback

title  Gentoo linux (generic)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-2.6.7-gentoo-r11.generic root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc vga=0x317 splash=verbose
 initrd /initrd-2.6.7-gentoo-r11.generic
 savedefault fallback
 



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