subject:"\[gentoo\-user\] Eterm not emerging"

Dale schrieb:
> Qian Qiao wrote:

>>Progress, :) Trimming will make it even clearer, and reader friendly.
>>  
>>
> 
> What is trimming?

Get out a word book. You'll find the definition there.

>  Now I am middle posting.

Bad as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

Nicholas Hockey schrieb:
> LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE
> 
> I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure
> back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to
> download all that extra crap.

So it is nowadays. Where's the GAIN in using HTML? If people
use HTML to do some (senseful) markup, I wouldn't object. But
have a look at

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:19:54 -0600
From: Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The text/plain part is only about 600 bytes. The text/html
part is about 1500 bytes. 1500 bytes for nothing at all.
So the mail was 2100 bytes in size, while 600 would have
been sufficient. That's just EXTREMELY bad behaviour.

> But adding a few extra kb doesn’t mean
> much now,

That's not the point. It adds few extra kb for nothing at all.

> Could you try not to send HTML messages to the list? A big portion of
> 
> us read our emails under command line, and people like me don't have a
> 
> brain that can parse the HTML and make sense of it before my finger
> 
> hits the "delete" button.
> 
>  
> 
> Also please try to avoid top posting.

What's that? Why are you writing this? This contradicts
all you've written at the top that mail. Strange.

But here you're completely right in those last few lines.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging





Well, I'm on 26K dial-up which ain't a whole lot better.  You should
see me downloading Open Office.  It takes three nights to get it all.  

Oh, we don't have anything else where I live.  There is no cable modem
or DSL here and likely won't be for a long time either I'm sorry to say.

I top posted for you though.  LOL

I'm going to bed.  It's after 9:00AM and I've been up all night.

Later

Dale


Qian Qiao wrote:

  Owned, lmao.

On 10/30/05, Nicholas Hockey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  

LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE

I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure
back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to
download all that extra crap. But adding a few extra kb doesn't mean much
now, get over yourself, and just FYI I rarely ever top post, and I never use
HTML e-mail. I did this in hopes that you would have a coronary and die.
You're just one of those people that do nothing all day, but find fault with
everything. How 'bout for once you actually help somebody, instead of
feeding your own superiority complex. "Look at me I'm perfect, I type
plaintext, I don't top post AND I know how to use a console to read my
e-mail! I am so much better than you. Yield to my superiority!!" You are not
special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same
decaying organic matter as everything else. Now you want to know a waste of
bandwidth, look you quoted this whole e-mail just to say stop wasting a few
kb. Oh and by the way most console based e-mail clients can parse HTML,
learn to configure your client instead of making everyone comply with your
every whim. That's all I wanted to say… as for the Eterm problem, looks like
imlib should be re-emerged, then Eterm should link fine. Have a nice day.


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

Owned, lmao.

On 10/30/05, Nicholas Hockey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE
>
> I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure
> back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to
> download all that extra crap. But adding a few extra kb doesn't mean much
> now, get over yourself, and just FYI I rarely ever top post, and I never use
> HTML e-mail. I did this in hopes that you would have a coronary and die.
> You're just one of those people that do nothing all day, but find fault with
> everything. How 'bout for once you actually help somebody, instead of
> feeding your own superiority complex. "Look at me I'm perfect, I type
> plaintext, I don't top post AND I know how to use a console to read my
> e-mail! I am so much better than you. Yield to my superiority!!" You are not
> special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same
> decaying organic matter as everything else. Now you want to know a waste of
> bandwidth, look you quoted this whole e-mail just to say stop wasting a few
> kb. Oh and by the way most console based e-mail clients can parse HTML,
> learn to configure your client instead of making everyone comply with your
> every whim. That's all I wanted to say… as for the Eterm problem, looks like
> imlib should be re-emerged, then Eterm should link fine. Have a nice day.
>
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RE: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Nicholas Hockey









LOOK I'M TOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS, OMG YOU MIGHT DIE

I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML? Sure
back when we were all on an old external hays 9600 it was irritating to
download all that extra crap. But adding a few extra kb doesn’t mean much
now, get over yourself, and just FYI I rarely ever top post, and I never use
HTML e-mail. I did this in hopes that you would have a coronary and die. You’re
just one of those people that do nothing all day, but find fault with
everything. How ‘bout for once you actually help somebody, instead of
feeding your own superiority complex. “Look at me I’m perfect, I type
plaintext, I don’t top post AND I know how to use a console to read my
e-mail! I am so much better than you. Yield to my superiority!!” You are
not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same
decaying organic matter as everything else. Now you want to know a waste of bandwidth,
look you quoted this whole e-mail just to say stop wasting a few kb. Oh and by
the way most console based e-mail clients can parse HTML, learn to configure
your client instead of making everyone comply with your every whim. That’s
all I wanted to say… as for the Eterm problem, looks like imlib should be
re-emerged, then Eterm should link fine. Have a nice day.

 

Could you try not to send HTML messages to the list? A
big portion of

us read our emails under command line, and people like
me don't have a

brain that can parse the HTML and make sense of it
before my finger

hits the "delete" button.

 

Also please try to avoid top posting.

 

-- Joe

 

--

There are 3 kinds of people in the world:

Those who can count, and those who can't.

 

Money can't buy everything.

Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Qian Qiao wrote:
> On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is trimming?  Now I am middle posting.

Deleting the bits that are out of context, to keep the message
relatively smaller in size.

Dial-up users benefit from trimming and not using HTML, :)

When we trim, especially on mailing lists, we trim other's signatures,
just to keep things neat.

-- Joe

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Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging







Qian Qiao wrote:

  On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
I did see a forum once that lets you put the posts in reverse order, most
recent at the top.  I would sort of like that.  I'm on a very slow dial-up
and I can likely read the new post before the rest of the page can even load
up.

  
  
That wasn't the default setting, was it? :) It's for people with special needs.

Another thing, plain text message might save you precious bandwidth,
:) especially for dial-up users.

  
  
I'm not a rocket scientist but I can usually remember what's going on in a
thread or list like this one.  If I don't remember it, then I wasn't
following it anyway.

  
  
So you don't pick up threads half way? Nor do you search list archives? Hmmm

  
  
How you like this on the bottom?  LOL

  
  
Progress, :) Trimming will make it even clearer, and reader friendly.
  


What is trimming?  Now I am middle posting.

  
-- Joe

--
There are 3 kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

  


My reply is up a little bit below your Progress meter.  LOL  Crap I
need broadband.  :(

Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging





Scroll to the bottom OK.  LOL

Qian Qiao wrote:

  On 10/30/05, Ryan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord.

  
  
I was replying Dale's message, :)

  
  
Um did you not read my previous message? Obviously not, mate... I
agree with you on the HTML, gmail enabled it by default. I disabled it
after you pointed it out, so thank you.

  
  
I did, and as said before, I was replying Dale's message.

  
  
Quite honestly top, middle or bottom posting all seems indifferent to
me. Correct me if I am wrong here but I thought the information was
the important part of the message not whether it is located at the top
or at the bottom? Hmmm guess I was wrong, I now be more considerate
and concern myself with the layout of my messages rather then helping
people.

In the interests of keeping you happy and god forbid all other people
who are more concerned with layout happy I will cease my evil ways of
top posting.

  
  
You see, you've just shown an example of the problem top posting
could've caused, you weren't even aware that I was replying Dale's
message.

Let me put things this way:
1. Starting a flame wasn't what was intended, I was merely trying to
tell you that it is considered by most people, not just me, that HTML
and top-posting should be avoided.
2. I do help people if I can, whether they top-post and HTML or not.
3. The information is important, so don't let how it's presentated ruin it.

As I've said earlier, many people still use command line for their
emails, when you ask for help or propose a wonderful idea through a
HTML message, it just make us feel isolated, :P, simply because our
client can't parse HTML.

Furthermore, HTML messages could cause security issuses.

Personally, i think it is natural, for others who want to know a
thread is about to starting from the OP, then go down to see the
replies, isn't it? And top-posting will force them to start from the
bottom. Eeew, bottom, :P

I don't know where you get the idea that being considerate in a list
will stop you from helping people or getting helps. :) It does just
the opposite.

-- Joe

--
There are 3 kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

  



It was there but I get so much mail that it is hard to keep up with,
plus I'm doing several other things too.  I'm not just talking about
spam either.  I'm on about 20 forums, several lists etc etc etc.  Add
in that my Mozilla is doing some strange stuff with the order in my
box.  I'm not sure what is going on.  Sometimes I get mail that is old
compared to what I already have.  Maybe it's my ISP's mailserver or
something.  < shrugs >

You have a point but I'm not the only one that top posts.  Like I said
earlier we need one way that everybody has to use so everybody knows
what to expect.  Imagine getting in a car and having the brake and gas
pedal switched.  I can get used to either way myself.

We are NOT flaming.  I find it funny in a way.  Others may flame, I'm
not.  I state my views and carry on.  My girlfriend likes that too. 
She knows she can tell me anything and I'm OK as long as she is not
hurt or threatened, then someone else has a problem, about 160 lbs of
kick butt I might add.  I'm super protective when it comes to her.  She
only weighs about 95 lbs.  O_O  She's eats good though.  Her daughter
is slender too.  

Hope you don't think I'm mad.  I'm to busy laughing.  LOL  Hope you
aren't either.

Dale

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Dale schrieb:
> I agree with your reasons 

I don't. Totally wrong. In every aspect.

> but some of the others have reasons too.  I do
> like my reason better though.  LOL  I put LOL for those who read text
> only and not HTML.  LOL, again.

Don't send out HTML, please. Especially, if you don't make
use of HTML features, as it then only wastes bandwidth
with nothing useful being added.

> I do wish someone would pick a way and let it be the only way though. 

Yep. And it should NOT be your way. Full quotes don't make sense.

> It gets confusing when some top post and some bottom post.

Yep. Then don't do it.

>  That really
> wears out my mouse wheel.  Go down, read a bit, then go up and read a
> bit, then back down again, repeat, repeat.  That is when it gets confusing.

Yep. That's why bullshit like this shouldn't be done. Quotes should
be done in the way I do it. Not because I do it (that's no reason),
but because that's the way it's been done for a long time and (more)
importantly, because it's been proven to be good.

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Quoting styles (was: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging)

Ted Kaczmarek schrieb:

> Than why did you top post?

More importantly: Why do you full quote?

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Ryan Viljoen schrieb:
> Ok if he is getting anal about whether I reply on the top or on the
> bottom then tough luck. It makes more sense to me that it is on the
> top since:
> a) you dont need to scroll

You don't need to anyway. And if you're full quoting, you can
as well quote NOTHING at all. Makes just as much sense and shows
how wrong that quoting style is...

> b) if you have been following the thread then you know whats been said
> already

Yep. But with normal quoting style (ie. what I'm doing here),
there's less need for reudundancy.

> c) the only time i will do it in reverse is when quoting what has been said.

Exactly. And since you should (close to) never do full quotes,
you'll never do full quotes.

> 
> END!
> 
> On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My reply being on top of what you wrote.  Some people like it on the
>> bottom.  I guess someone will be upset no matter which way you do it.  I
>> just like the top so that I don't have to scroll down.  My mouse wheel
>> leaves a little to be desired.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> Ryan Viljoen wrote:
>>
>> >Is that better? And while we are on the matter what is top posting?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Don't quote signatures, please.

>>
>>
> 
> 
> --
> "When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just
> stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for
> free". - Linus Torvalds, 1995

Wrong signature delimiter. It is "-- \n", and nothing else.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

Dale schrieb:
> My reply being on top of what you wrote. 

Yep.

> Some people like it on the
> bottom.

Not really. Full quotes are - at least on mailinglist - very
bad. It's easy to go back to the original post to see what's
been written there.

>  I guess someone will be upset no matter which way you do it.  I
> just like the top so that I don't have to scroll down.

You don't have to scroll.


>  My mouse wheel
> leaves a little to be desired.

What wheel?

>>Is that better? And while we are on the matter what is top posting?

Why did you quote that in full?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally, If I think I'm helping someone, I don't care if they top or
> bottom post or post like you did below, middle posting I guess.  I certainly
> won't care if someone is helping me.

If you were asking for help, you might as well ask for it nicely. :)

> The one thing that confuses me is keeping up with who is who.  I'm awful at
> names.  I have to work at it to get my girlfriends name right.  I actually
> have it plastered on my monitor to remind me.  Just to be safe, I call her
> Sweety.  Don't get me wrong though, I love her dearly but I suck at names.
> I'm good at remembering faces though.  I may not know their name but I know
> I know them.  Confusing huh?

Bottom posting will help. :) As least it will help keeping everything
in context, you'll know exactly which paragraph I am answering.

> If someone wants me to reply on the bottom, say so, I'll scroll down and
> type away.  I'm not sweating this at all.  I find it sort of funny really.
> All this over where to type.  LOL, for those text users.  :-D  for those
> HTML users.

Yeah, mankind also had talks on where to pee, where to smoke, where to
have sex and stuff. Keep laughing mate.

-- Joe

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Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did see a forum once that lets you put the posts in reverse order, most
> recent at the top.  I would sort of like that.  I'm on a very slow dial-up
> and I can likely read the new post before the rest of the page can even load
> up.

That wasn't the default setting, was it? :) It's for people with special needs.

Another thing, plain text message might save you precious bandwidth,
:) especially for dial-up users.

> I'm not a rocket scientist but I can usually remember what's going on in a
> thread or list like this one.  If I don't remember it, then I wasn't
> following it anyway.

So you don't pick up threads half way? Nor do you search list archives? Hmmm

> How you like this on the bottom?  LOL

Progress, :) Trimming will make it even clearer, and reader friendly.

-- Joe

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There are 3 kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

On 10/30/05, Ryan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord.

I was replying Dale's message, :)

> Um did you not read my previous message? Obviously not, mate... I
> agree with you on the HTML, gmail enabled it by default. I disabled it
> after you pointed it out, so thank you.

I did, and as said before, I was replying Dale's message.

> Quite honestly top, middle or bottom posting all seems indifferent to
> me. Correct me if I am wrong here but I thought the information was
> the important part of the message not whether it is located at the top
> or at the bottom? Hmmm guess I was wrong, I now be more considerate
> and concern myself with the layout of my messages rather then helping
> people.
>
> In the interests of keeping you happy and god forbid all other people
> who are more concerned with layout happy I will cease my evil ways of
> top posting.

You see, you've just shown an example of the problem top posting
could've caused, you weren't even aware that I was replying Dale's
message.

Let me put things this way:
1. Starting a flame wasn't what was intended, I was merely trying to
tell you that it is considered by most people, not just me, that HTML
and top-posting should be avoided.
2. I do help people if I can, whether they top-post and HTML or not.
3. The information is important, so don't let how it's presentated ruin it.

As I've said earlier, many people still use command line for their
emails, when you ask for help or propose a wonderful idea through a
HTML message, it just make us feel isolated, :P, simply because our
client can't parse HTML.

Furthermore, HTML messages could cause security issuses.

Personally, i think it is natural, for others who want to know a
thread is about to starting from the OP, then go down to see the
replies, isn't it? And top-posting will force them to start from the
bottom. Eeew, bottom, :P

I don't know where you get the idea that being considerate in a list
will stop you from helping people or getting helps. :) It does just
the opposite.

-- Joe

--
There are 3 kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

Personally, If I think I'm helping someone, I don't care if they top or
bottom post or post like you did below, middle posting I guess. I
certainly won't care if someone is helping me.

The one thing that confuses me is keeping up with who is who. I'm
awful at names. I have to work at it to get my girlfriends name
right. I actually have it plastered on my monitor to remind me. Just
to be safe, I call her Sweety. Don't get me wrong though, I love her
dearly but I suck at names. I'm good at remembering faces though. I
may not know their name but I know I know them. Confusing huh?

If someone wants me to reply on the bottom, say so, I'll scroll down
and type away. I'm not sweating this at all. I find it sort of funny
really. All this over where to type. LOL, for those text users. :-D for those HTML users.

Dale
ROTFLMAO!!!

Ryan Viljoen wrote:

On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok, i top post, just for you, :)

You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord.

Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this
thread:
1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message.
2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message
3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read mine.

I can hardly say it is *logical* to read a thread backwards. Another
example: try to name one forum/BBS system that displays the newest reply on
the top when viewing a thread.

BTW, how did you like my HTML? I bet you enjoyed it.

Um did you not read my previous message? Obviously not, mate... I
agree with you on the HTML, gmail enabled it by default. I disabled it
after you pointed it out, so thank you.

You just don't understand that most people dislike top-posting and HTML
messages for a reason. You've got every right to use whatever you wish in
your personal mails, but this is a public list, try to be considerate mate.

Quite honestly top, middle or bottom posting all seems indifferent to
me. Correct me if I am wrong here but I thought the information was
the important part of the message not whether it is located at the top
or at the bottom? Hmmm guess I was wrong, I now be more considerate
and concern myself with the layout of my messages rather then helping
people.

In the interests of keeping you happy and god forbid all other people
who are more concerned with layout happy I will cease my evil ways of
top posting.

Rav

--
"When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just
stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for
free". - Linus Torvalds, 1995

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

Qian Qiao wrote:

  Ok, i top post, just for you, :)

Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up
this thread:
1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message.
2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message

3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read mine.

I can hardly say it is *logical* to read a thread backwards. Another
example: try to name one forum/BBS system that displays the newest
reply on the top when viewing a thread.

  BTW, how
did you like my HTML? I bet you enjoyed it.

  You just don't understand that most people dislike top-posting
and HTML messages for a reason. You've got every right to use whatever
you wish in your personal mails, but this is a public list, try to be
considerate mate.

  -- Joe

On 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I post mine on top so I assume that is top posting.  Correct?  Now
you will
> see what I mean by mixing the two.   LOL

> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> Ted Kaczmarek wrote: 
> On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote:

> I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too.
I
do like
> my reason better though. LOL I put LOL for those who read
text only and not
> HTML. LOL, again.

I don't think anybody is getting anal about it. I always
> look at it
this way, if someone doesn't want to help me with something, I

> don't
want their help anyway. I help because I like it not because
> someone
has a gun to my head, or top posts. If someone bottom posts,
> I'll
scroll down and see if I can help.

I do wish someone would pick a way

> and let it be the only way though.
It gets confusing when some top post and
> some bottom post. That
really wears out my mouse wheel. Go down, read a bit,
> then go up and
read a bit, then back down again, repeat, repeat. That is

> when it
gets confusing.

Dale
:-)

> Than why did you top post?

Ted

> 

-- 
There are 3 kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.

Money can't buy everything.
Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

I did see a forum once that lets you put the posts in reverse order,
most recent at the top.  I would sort of like that.  I'm on a very slow
dial-up and I can likely read the new post before the rest of the page
can even load up.

I'm not a rocket scientist but I can usually remember what's going on
in a thread or list like this one.  If I don't remember it, then I
wasn't following it anyway.

How you like this on the bottom?  LOL

Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ryan Viljoen

On 10/30/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, i top post, just for you, :)

You can post how you like. Please dont change your ways on my accord.

>
> Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this
> thread:
> 1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message.
> 2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message
> 3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read mine.
>
> I can hardly say it is *logical* to read a thread backwards. Another
> example: try to name one forum/BBS system that displays the newest reply on
> the top when viewing a thread.
>
> BTW, how did you like my HTML? I bet you enjoyed it.

Um did you not read my previous message? Obviously not, mate... I
agree with you on the HTML, gmail enabled it by default. I disabled it
after you pointed it out, so thank you.

> You just don't understand that most people dislike top-posting and HTML
> messages for a reason. You've got every right to use whatever you wish in
> your personal mails, but this is a public list, try to be considerate mate.

Quite honestly top, middle or bottom posting all seems indifferent to
me. Correct me if I am wrong here but I thought the information was
the important part of the message not whether it is located at the top
or at the bottom? Hmmm guess I was wrong, I now be more considerate
and concern myself with the layout of my messages rather then helping
people.

In the interests of keeping you happy and god forbid all other people
who are more concerned with layout happy I will cease my evil ways of
top posting.

Rav

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Ok, i top post, just for you, :)Imagine someone who wasn't following the thread need to do to pick up this thread:1. Scroll all the way to the bottom, read Ted's message.2. Scroll a bit upwards, to read you message
3. Then scroll all the way to the top, to read mine.I can hardly say it is *logical* to read a thread backwards. Another example: try to name one forum/BBS system that displays the newest reply on the top when viewing a thread.

BTW, how did you like my HTML? I bet you enjoyed it.

You just don't understand that most people dislike top-posting and HTML messages for a reason. You've got every right to use whatever you wish in your personal mails, but this is a public list, try to be considerate mate.

-- JoeOn 10/30/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I post mine on top so I assume that is top posting.  Correct?  Now you will> see what I mean by mixing the two.   LOL
> > Dale> > > Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote:> I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too. Ido like
> my reason better though. LOL I put LOL for those who readtext only and not> HTML. LOL, again.I don't think anybody is getting anal about it. I always> look at itthis way, if someone doesn't want to help me with something, I
> don'twant their help anyway. I help because I like it not because> someonehas a gun to my head, or top posts. If someone bottom posts,> I'llscroll down and see if I can help.I do wish someone would pick a way
> and let it be the only way though.It gets confusing when some top post and> some bottom post. Thatreally wears out my mouse wheel. Go down, read a bit,> then go up andread a bit, then back down again, repeat, repeat. That is
> when itgets confusing.Dale:-)> Than why did you top post?Ted> -- There are 3 kinds of people in the world:Those who can count, and those who can't.
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I post mine on top so I assume that is top posting.  Correct?  Now you
will see what I mean by mixing the two.   LOL

Dale


Ted Kaczmarek wrote:

  On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote:
  
  
I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too.  I
do like my reason better though.  LOL  I put LOL for those who read
text only and not HTML.  LOL, again.

I don't think anybody is getting anal about it.  I always look at it
this way, if someone doesn't want to help me with something, I don't
want their help anyway.   I help because I like it not because someone
has a gun to my head, or top posts.  If someone bottom posts, I'll
scroll down and see if I can help.

I do wish someone would pick a way and let it be the only way though.
It gets confusing when some top post and some bottom post.  That
really wears out my mouse wheel.  Go down, read a bit, then go up and
read a bit, then back down again, repeat, repeat.  That is when it
gets confusing.

Dale
:-)

  
  Than why did you top post?

Ted

Re: [gentoo-user] Eterm not emerging

2005-10-30 Thread Ted Kaczmarek

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 03:31 -0600, Dale wrote:
> I agree with your reasons but some of the others have reasons too.  I
> do like my reason better though.  LOL  I put LOL for those who read
> text only and not HTML.  LOL, again.
> 
> I don't think anybody is getting anal about it.  I always look at it
> this way, if someone doesn't want to help me with something, I don't
> want their help anyway.   I help because I like it not because someone
> has a gun to my head, or top posts.  If someone bottom posts, I'll
> scroll down and see if I can help.
> 
> I do wish someone would pick a way and let it be the only way though.
> It gets confusing when some top post and some bottom post.  That
> really wears out my mouse wheel.  Go down, read a bit, then go up and
> read a bit, then back down again, repeat, repeat.  That is when it
> gets confusing.
> 
> Dale
> :-)
Than why did you top post?

Ted


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My reply being on top of what you wrote.  Some people like it on the
bottom.  I guess someone will be upset no matter which way you do it.  I
just like the top so that I don't have to scroll down.  My mouse wheel
leaves a little to be desired.

Dale

Ryan Viljoen wrote:

>Is that better? And while we are on the matter what is top posting?
>
>  
>
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