Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-03 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Probably I found the problem:
 # setxkbmap -layout de -option compose:menu,lv3:ralt_switch
 Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property

Googling for that line shows these threads:

http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2006-June/003552.html
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-05/msg00041.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-September/008855.html

The first one says that it is some error in Xorg itself, fixed in 
more recent versions.

The second one suggests that you may have a mistaken symlink 
somewhere as a result of downgrading.

The last one found this as a workaround:
setxkbmap -keycodes xfree86 -types default -symbols en_US(pc105)+de 
-geometry pc(pc102)

 What does it means? I generated the default config file with the
 new xorgconfig... It must write already the right rules...

Please post the relevant section of your xorg.conf again, plus the 
output of 'setxkbmap -print'.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-03 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Alle 22:20, lunedì 3 luglio 2006, Benno Schulenberg ha scritto:
 Luigi Pinna wrote:
  Probably I found the problem:
  # setxkbmap -layout de -option compose:menu,lv3:ralt_switch
  Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property

 Googling for that line shows these threads:

 http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2006-June/003552.html
 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-05/msg00041.html
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-September/0088
55.html

 The first one says that it is some error in Xorg itself, fixed in
 more recent versions.

 The second one suggests that you may have a mistaken symlink
 somewhere as a result of downgrading.

 The last one found this as a workaround:
 setxkbmap -keycodes xfree86 -types default -symbols
 en_US(pc105)+de -geometry pc(pc102)

I tried it:
setxkbmap -keycodes xfree86 -types default -symbols en_US(pc105)+de 
-geometry pc(pc102)
Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
Error loading new keyboard description



  What does it means? I generated the default config file with the
  new xorgconfig... It must write already the right rules...

 Please post the relevant section of your xorg.conf again, plus the
 output of 'setxkbmap -print'.

 Benno

- From my xorg.conf:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard1
Driver  kbd
Option AutoRepeat 500 30
Option XkbRules   xorg
Option XkbModel   pc105
Option XkbLayout  de
Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys
EndSection

setxkbmap -v 9 de
Setting verbose level to 9
locale is C
Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard layout
 Using command line, ignoring X server
Applied rules from xorg:
model:  pc101
layout: de
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   xfree86+aliases(qwertz)
types:  complete
compat: complete
symbols:pc(pc101)+de
geometry:   pc(pc101)
Error loading new keyboard description

and:

setxkbmap -print
Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty)   };
xkb_types { include complete  };
xkb_compat{ include complete  };
xkb_symbols   { include pc(pc101)+us  };
xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc101) };
};

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[gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Hi!
I upgrade to new xorg 7.0 and I lost my keyboard configuration: my 
layout is german (base version with deadkeys).
Now I can't do more all accent vocals (like è) and some symbols (likes @ 
and all ceated with control+ or alt+). 
What's it happened from 6.8 to 7.0? How must I set it?
My xorg.conf is by xorgconfig generated, and I have:
Section InputDevice

Identifier  Keyboard1
Driver  kbd

   Option Protocol  Xqueue

Option AutoRepeat 500 30

Option XkbRules   xorg
Option XkbModel   pc105
Option XkbLayout  de

EndSection

Thanks, Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:10, Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Hi!
 I upgrade to new xorg 7.0 and I lost my keyboard configuration: my
 layout is german (base version with deadkeys).
 Now I can't do more all accent vocals (like č) and some symbols (likes @
 and all ceated with control+ or alt+).
 What's it happened from 6.8 to 7.0? How must I set it?
 My xorg.conf is by xorgconfig generated, and I have:
 Section InputDevice

 Identifier  Keyboard1
 Driver  kbd

Option Protocol  Xqueue

 Option AutoRepeat 500 30

 Option XkbRules   xorg
 Option XkbModel   pc105
 Option XkbLayout  de

 EndSection

 Thanks, Luigi
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i dont remember where it is documented, however my xorg.conf has this line:
Option XkbOptions altwin:menu,compose:ralt


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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Option XkbRules   xorg
 Option XkbModel   pc105
 Option XkbLayout  de

Try this, for the Right Alt key to get you into the level 3 stuff (á, ë,
etc)

Option  XkbOptionslv3:ralt_switch

If you want the various keys that can be put there instead of
ralt_switch, run this:

grep xkb_sym /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/level3

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Alle 21:26, domenica 2 luglio 2006, Donnie Berkholz ha scritto:
 Luigi Pinna wrote:
  Option XkbRules   xorg
  Option XkbModel   pc105
  Option XkbLayout  de

 Try this, for the Right Alt key to get you into the level 3 stuff (á,
 ë, etc)

 Option  XkbOptionslv3:ralt_switch

I tried it... I don't understand my layout! Now I have but it's in the 
ü! I had now [] not in the 7 and 8 but on ö and  ä.
I'm a little bit confused...
Luigi

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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Alle 21:26, domenica 2 luglio 2006, Donnie Berkholz ha scritto:
 Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Option XkbRules   xorg
 Option XkbModel   pc105
 Option XkbLayout  de
 Try this, for the Right Alt key to get you into the level 3 stuff (á,
 ë, etc)

 Option  XkbOptionslv3:ralt_switch
 
 I tried it... I don't understand my layout! Now I have but it's in the 
 ü! I had now [] not in the 7 and 8 but on ö and  ä.
 I'm a little bit confused...

So the lv3 stuff works something like this:

alt+; then letter gives right accented letter
alt+[ then letter gives umlauted letter
alt+] then letter gives tilded letter
alt+' then letter gives hatted letter

There's a different set called compose rather than lv3 that will give
you composed things, compose+letter then ' gives accented letter, etc.
It's sort of a more logical model. Look in
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/compose for xkb_symbols instead for its
possible buttons.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Alle 23:33, domenica 2 luglio 2006, Donnie Berkholz ha scritto:

 So the lv3 stuff works something like this:

 alt+; then letter gives right accented letter
 alt+[ then letter gives umlauted letter
 alt+] then letter gives tilded letter
 alt+' then letter gives hatted letter

It doesn't work!


 There's a different set called compose rather than lv3 that will give
 you composed things, compose+letter then ' gives accented letter,
 etc. It's sort of a more logical model. Look in
 /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/compose for xkb_symbols instead for its
 possible buttons.

 Thanks,
 Donnie

I don't understand, why if it's worked today (with xorg 6.8) now doens't 
work more? How can I set like before?
It must be a file that overwrite the xorg.conf configuration...
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Alle 23:33, domenica 2 luglio 2006, Donnie Berkholz ha scritto:
 
 So the lv3 stuff works something like this:

 alt+; then letter gives right accented letter
 alt+[ then letter gives umlauted letter
 alt+] then letter gives tilded letter
 alt+' then letter gives hatted letter
 
 It doesn't work!

You restarted X after adding the lv3 thing to xorg.conf?

You can try this to avoid restarting X:

setxkbmap -layout de -option compose:menu,lv3:ralt_switch

That will set up things so composing uses the menu (windows) key, and
level3 uses right alt.

 I don't understand, why if it's worked today (with xorg 6.8) now doens't 
 work more? How can I set like before?
 It must be a file that overwrite the xorg.conf configuration...

The XKB setup changed significantly between 6.8 and 7.0 -- lots of
things that used to work no longer do. You need to figure out the new
way to do whatever you used to do.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Luigi Pinna
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Alle 00:23, lunedì 3 luglio 2006, Donnie Berkholz ha scritto:
[...]
 You restarted X after adding the lv3 thing to xorg.conf?

Yes I did, I tried all your config files... Nothing works...

 You can try this to avoid restarting X:

 setxkbmap -layout de -option compose:menu,lv3:ralt_switch

 That will set up things so composing uses the menu (windows) key, and
 level3 uses right alt.

Probably I found the problem:
# setxkbmap -layout de -option compose:menu,lv3:ralt_switch
Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
Error loading new keyboard description

What does it means? I generated the default config file with the new 
xorgconfig... It must write already the right rules...

 The XKB setup changed significantly between 6.8 and 7.0 -- lots of
 things that used to work no longer do. You need to figure out the new
 way to do whatever you used to do.

Mmh, if it is worst as before, I propose to come back to old system :-)

 Thanks,
 Donnie

Thanks to you!
Luigi

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