Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread James Broadhead
Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have
root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x.

I have more written, but I'm travellong atm.

Use app-pda/ideviceinstaller -l to get AppIds  then use ifuse --appid to
mount Apps 'Documents' folders (to pass them music/videos/ebooks).

I needed ifuse  libimobiledevice from git for my updated ipad1.
On Nov 13, 2011 5:06 a.m., Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:14 PM, James Broadhead
 jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
  As for native support, it looks as though Apple have updated their
  protocol, so if you've a new i*, or have updated recently, then the
  in-portage versions of ifuse and libimobiledevice won't work - I've
  just gotten my updated iPad working with current git versions of both
  however.
 
  I've also been working on:
  http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_ipod,_ipad,_iphone
 
  Please feel free to add to it. :)
 
  J

 Hi James,
   Sitting here this evening I remembered you had posted this so I
 thought I'd give it a try. While there's a lot of life I still don't
 have a connection. Here's what I see following along with your
 commands:

 1) idevice_id just prints a help list. However

 idevice_id -l

 does give me a serial number.

 2) ideviceinfo prints lots of information from the ipod.

 3) idevicepair pair  idevicepair validate report success. Great so far.

 5) ifuse /mnt/ipod does mount the ipod. I can cd to /mnt/ipod and see
 directories, etc.

 k2 ipod # ls -la
 total 4
 drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  204 Dec 31  1969 .
 drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov  4 17:50 ..
 drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  102 Dec 31  1969 DCIM
 drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  102 Dec 31  1969 Downloads
 -rw-r--r-- 0 root root0 Dec 31  1969 com.apple.itunes.lock_sync
 drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  204 Dec 31  1969 iTunes_Control
 k2 ipod #

 At this point I start gtkpod but cannot find the ipod. I'm wondering
 what root might need to do to make /mnt/ipod visible to my user
 account? Should I be adding my id to some groups possibly? Something
 else?

 Thanks for the write-up.

 - Mark




Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread James Broadhead
On 16 November 2011 08:42, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have
 root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x.

Oh, and run ifuse as the user, not as root :)



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:21 AM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16 November 2011 08:42, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your user should be in plugdev, with the mountpoiny rwx by plugdev. I have
 root:plugdev rwxrwxr-x.

 Oh, and run ifuse as the user, not as root :)



I'll look into both of those. Thanks.

I got the Kindle Fire yesterday (2 days earlier than they originally
told me.) As far as I'm concerned the device is almost brilliant. At
least 4.5 stars. It's Android based, pure USB and very accessible.
Just hooked it up to my Gentoo box, mounted it, found the Video
directory, downloaded some movies ripped in Handbrake and started
enjoying it. Took about 20 minutes from opening the box until it was
playing a movie.

Storage is a little small. 8GB internal, about 6.3GB available to me,
but for $199 I have to say that having a portable reader/movie player
that also gives you free video if you're an Amazon Prime member and
has apps for playing NetFlix Instant Watch and Hulu+ is really nice.
Personally I like the 7 screen format but the device does feel a
little heavy. Batteries lasted all day and through the evening.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:14 PM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
 As for native support, it looks as though Apple have updated their
 protocol, so if you've a new i*, or have updated recently, then the
 in-portage versions of ifuse and libimobiledevice won't work - I've
 just gotten my updated iPad working with current git versions of both
 however.

 I've also been working on:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_ipod,_ipad,_iphone

 Please feel free to add to it. :)

 J

Hi James,
   Sitting here this evening I remembered you had posted this so I
thought I'd give it a try. While there's a lot of life I still don't
have a connection. Here's what I see following along with your
commands:

1) idevice_id just prints a help list. However

idevice_id -l

does give me a serial number.

2) ideviceinfo prints lots of information from the ipod.

3) idevicepair pair  idevicepair validate report success. Great so far.

5) ifuse /mnt/ipod does mount the ipod. I can cd to /mnt/ipod and see
directories, etc.

k2 ipod # ls -la
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  204 Dec 31  1969 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov  4 17:50 ..
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  102 Dec 31  1969 DCIM
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  102 Dec 31  1969 Downloads
-rw-r--r-- 0 root root0 Dec 31  1969 com.apple.itunes.lock_sync
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root  204 Dec 31  1969 iTunes_Control
k2 ipod #

At this point I start gtkpod but cannot find the ipod. I'm wondering
what root might need to do to make /mnt/ipod visible to my user
account? Should I be adding my id to some groups possibly? Something
else?

Thanks for the write-up.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 07 November 2011, 10:28:41 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
 On Sun, November 6, 2011 6:49 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
  Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high
  performance.
  
  Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it
  
  virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.
 
 Broken in what way?
 I am happily using it without any issues.

the worst way:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw

-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Montag 07 November 2011, 10:28:41 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
 On Sun, November 6, 2011 6:49 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
  Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high
  performance.
 
      Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it
 
  virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.

 Broken in what way?
 I am happily using it without any issues.

 the worst way:
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw


Yeah, it was sort of fun to watch that thread as it occurred on LKML.

Personally I felt the Phoronix article was a bit of a troll as the
best he could do personally was say that he had problems a year ago,
but I believe the kernel devs are telling the truth as best they know
it about the number of bug reports they get. Let's remember however
that they probably don't here much from those of us who use it
successfully.

What I'm not clear about Volker is whether _you_ are a user of
Virtualbox and have had problems with recent versions yourself or just
down on the application because of what you read?

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch 09 November 2011, 10:22:42 schrieb Mark Knecht:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Am Montag 07 November 2011, 10:28:41 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
  On Sun, November 6, 2011 6:49 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
   Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high
   performance.
   
   Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it
   
   virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.
  
  Broken in what way?
  I am happily using it without any issues.
  
  the worst way:
  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw
 
 Yeah, it was sort of fun to watch that thread as it occurred on LKML.
 
 Personally I felt the Phoronix article was a bit of a troll as the
 best he could do personally was say that he had problems a year ago,
 but I believe the kernel devs are telling the truth as best they know
 it about the number of bug reports they get. Let's remember however
 that they probably don't here much from those of us who use it
 successfully.
 
 What I'm not clear about Volker is whether _you_ are a user of
 Virtualbox and have had problems with recent versions yourself or just
 down on the application because of what you read?
 
 - Mark

except random crahes here and there and two instances of a virtual machine 
deconstructing itself, no, no problems here.

-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 09 November 2011, 10:22:42 schrieb Mark Knecht:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann

 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Am Montag 07 November 2011, 10:28:41 schrieb J. Roeleveld:
  On Sun, November 6, 2011 6:49 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
   Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high
   performance.
  
   Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it
  
   virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.
 
  Broken in what way?
  I am happily using it without any issues.
 
  the worst way:
  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw

 Yeah, it was sort of fun to watch that thread as it occurred on LKML.

 Personally I felt the Phoronix article was a bit of a troll as the
 best he could do personally was say that he had problems a year ago,
 but I believe the kernel devs are telling the truth as best they know
 it about the number of bug reports they get. Let's remember however
 that they probably don't here much from those of us who use it
 successfully.

 What I'm not clear about Volker is whether _you_ are a user of
 Virtualbox and have had problems with recent versions yourself or just
 down on the application because of what you read?

 - Mark

 except random crahes here and there and two instances of a virtual machine
 deconstructing itself, no, no problems here.


OK, good information, although I'm sorry you had the problems.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-09 Thread James Broadhead
As for native support, it looks as though Apple have updated their
protocol, so if you've a new i*, or have updated recently, then the
in-portage versions of ifuse and libimobiledevice won't work - I've
just gotten my updated iPad working with current git versions of both
however.

I've also been working on:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_ipod,_ipad,_iphone

Please feel free to add to it. :)

J



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, November 6, 2011 6:49 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:

 Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high
 performance.
 Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it

 virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.

Broken in what way?
I am happily using it without any issues.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:

 On Nov 5, 2011 6:51 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I do that a lot because my
 blood is pretty unique.)

 (sorry for the offtopicness, but I really am curious)

 AB+ ?

 Rgds,

Yeah, off topic, and a good first guess. I'm AB+ which makes my plasma
universal donor, but I'm also but also CMV- which makes it appropriate
for people who have suppressed immune systems. (Newborn babies, AIDS
patients, etc.) I've been donating for about 10 years now (since 9/11)
and in fact donated both platelets and plasma yesterday afternoon. I'm
told that in the U.S. the AB+/CMV- combination makes my type way below
1% in my age group. As a whole blood donor my AB+ can only be used by
other AB+ people, but my plasma can be used by anyone. Plasma can be
frozen and keeps for up to a year so I'm pretty much assured that
everything I donate is used somewhere.

I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider
donating. Even donating once a year is a big help. It's not painful
and whole blood donations are easy. I do apheresis which takes longer
as it draws my blood, separates the contents, keeps the plasma 
platelets and then returns the rest of my blood back to my body.
(Spooky!) ;-)

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread James Broadhead
On 5 November 2011 19:45, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Saturday, November 05, 2011 04:48:54 AM Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
  On Friday, November 04, 2011 06:03:55 PM Mark Knecht wrote:
  2011/11/4 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
   Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice
   (dependency
   of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.
  
 
  Hi Jorge,
     Thanks for the ifuse idea. ifuse /mnt/ipod does seem to get the
  device mounted. However just poking around in the /mnt/ipod directory
  isn't very clear by itself about how music (and one day hopefully
  videos) are stored. Maybe I can find some info somewhere to help with
  that if necessary.
 
     Even with the device mounted it doesn't seem to be visible to
  gtkpod, and there aren't any new USB disk messages in dmesg. Just a
  single ifuse message is all that's added.
 
     Well, at least I can sort of communicate with the ipod even if I
  cannot do anything interesting yet
 
  I haven't played with my iPod touch yet, but the older models all
  worked with gtkpod.
  You might need to tell gtkpod to open the ipod by pointing it where it
  is mounted

I have the same problem, with an iPad, but effectively the same. iPods
work on the local Ubuntu machine, and I believe that usbmuxd is the
problem in this case. It's supposed to pick up the ipod announce in
dmesg and take over. I can't test atm, but it looks like a good place
to start.

Take a look here:
http://marcansoft.com/blog/2009/10/iphone-syncing-on-linux-part-2/

which is a little old, but  has piles of info. I'm thinking of
updating the HFS+ page on gentoo-wiki - if we figure this out, maybe
we can write up a good guide for Apple i* devices.



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Dale

Mark Knecht wrote:
I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider 
donating. Even donating once a year is a big help. It's not painful 
and whole blood donations are easy. I do apheresis which takes longer 
as it draws my blood, separates the contents, keeps the plasma  
platelets and then returns the rest of my blood back to my body. 
(Spooky!) ;-) Cheers, Mark 


I would draw the line at it coming back.  If something wasn't cleaned 
right, they will find it when they test the blood later.  Thing is, if 
something wasn't cleaned right, you get it back.  I'd just drink a glass 
of orange juice.  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

 I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider donating.
 Even donating once a year is a big help. It's not painful and whole blood
 donations are easy. I do apheresis which takes longer as it draws my blood,
 separates the contents, keeps the plasma  platelets and then returns the
 rest of my blood back to my body. (Spooky!) ;-) Cheers, Mark

 I would draw the line at it coming back.  If something wasn't cleaned right,
 they will find it when they test the blood later.  Thing is, if something
 wasn't cleaned right, you get it back.  I'd just drink a glass of orange
 juice.  lol

 Dale

Yeah, that was my concern before I started doing the process it but
it's a very interesting engineering solution to building a closed
system where everything is put in brand new for each donation. It's
this huge package of plastic tubes and hoses which are sealed until
moments before the blood draw so I'm not overly worried, but it's
really easy to understand why others would be, and for those folks
they should just do whole blood donations which only take blood out
and nothing returns. With those it's only a matter of a clean needle.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:16:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider
 donating.

I used to9, but I'm no longer allowed to. In the UK, anyone who received
a transfusion before 1981 is no longer able to donate, I received blood
in December 1980.

It's something to do with CJD/Mad Cow disease, no jokes about the wife
please... she may read this and prove them right!


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Excuse for the day: daemons did it


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Dale

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:

Mark Knecht wrote:

I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider donating.
Even donating once a year is a big help. It's not painful and whole blood
donations are easy. I do apheresis which takes longer as it draws my blood,
separates the contents, keeps the plasma  platelets and then returns the
rest of my blood back to my body. (Spooky!) ;-) Cheers, Mark

I would draw the line at it coming back.  If something wasn't cleaned right,
they will find it when they test the blood later.  Thing is, if something
wasn't cleaned right, you get it back.  I'd just drink a glass of orange
juice.  lol

Dale

Yeah, that was my concern before I started doing the process it but
it's a very interesting engineering solution to building a closed
system where everything is put in brand new for each donation. It's
this huge package of plastic tubes and hoses which are sealed until
moments before the blood draw so I'm not overly worried, but it's
really easy to understand why others would be, and for those folks
they should just do whole blood donations which only take blood out
and nothing returns. With those it's only a matter of a clean needle.

- Mark




Well, if they do all that, then I could see how that isn't a problem.  I 
still sort of like the one clean needle thing tho.  I got enough health 
issues so I don't need some microscopic critter hitching a ride and 
making more problems for me.  So, be careful.  Keep a eye on them. 
Wouldn't want to lose a Gentoo user.  ^_^


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:16:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I hope anyone reading who doesn't donate will at least consider
 donating.

 I used to9, but I'm no longer allowed to. In the UK, anyone who received
 a transfusion before 1981 is no longer able to donate, I received blood
 in December 1980.

 It's something to do with CJD/Mad Cow disease, no jokes about the wife
 please... she may read this and prove them right!


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Excuse for the day: daemons did it


We have the same limitations here and it is about Mad Cow. (Not 'THE
Mad Cow' you crazy Brit!) ;-)



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag 05 November 2011, 20:45:15 schrieb Joost Roeleveld:

 Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high performance.
 Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it

virtualbox is also pretty broken at the moment.


-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-05 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday, November 04, 2011 06:03:55 PM Mark Knecht wrote:
 2011/11/4 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
  Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice (dependency
  of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.
  
  Greetings,
  
  --
  Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net
Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com
 
 Hi Jorge,
Thanks for the ifuse idea. ifuse /mnt/ipod does seem to get the
 device mounted. However just poking around in the /mnt/ipod directory
 isn't very clear by itself about how music (and one day hopefully
 videos) are stored. Maybe I can find some info somewhere to help with
 that if necessary.
 
Even with the device mounted it doesn't seem to be visible to
 gtkpod, and there aren't any new USB disk messages in dmesg. Just a
 single ifuse message is all that's added.
 
Well, at least I can sort of communicate with the ipod even if I
 cannot do anything interesting yet.
 
Thanks!
 
 - Mark

Mark,

I haven't played with my iPod touch yet, but the older models all worked 
with gtkpod.
You might need to tell gtkpod to open the ipod by pointing it where it is 
mounted.

Menu: Edit - Repository/iPod Options
Then click on Add new repository/iPod and fill in the details for your iPod. 
(The backup-file is in my home-dir on my desktop for mine)

Any files you manually copy to the iPod will NOT be picked up as a database 
file needs to be updated as well.

Apple also has this annoying tendency to change the DB-structure for every 
version and gtkpod needs to have specific support for your model for it to 
work.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
 On Friday, November 04, 2011 06:03:55 PM Mark Knecht wrote:
 2011/11/4 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
  Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice (dependency
  of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.
 
  Greetings,
 
  --
  Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net
        Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com

 Hi Jorge,
    Thanks for the ifuse idea. ifuse /mnt/ipod does seem to get the
 device mounted. However just poking around in the /mnt/ipod directory
 isn't very clear by itself about how music (and one day hopefully
 videos) are stored. Maybe I can find some info somewhere to help with
 that if necessary.

    Even with the device mounted it doesn't seem to be visible to
 gtkpod, and there aren't any new USB disk messages in dmesg. Just a
 single ifuse message is all that's added.

    Well, at least I can sort of communicate with the ipod even if I
 cannot do anything interesting yet.

    Thanks!

 - Mark

 Mark,

 I haven't played with my iPod touch yet, but the older models all worked
 with gtkpod.
 You might need to tell gtkpod to open the ipod by pointing it where it is
 mounted.

 Menu: Edit - Repository/iPod Options
 Then click on Add new repository/iPod and fill in the details for your iPod.
 (The backup-file is in my home-dir on my desktop for mine)

 Any files you manually copy to the iPod will NOT be picked up as a database
 file needs to be updated as well.

 Apple also has this annoying tendency to change the DB-structure for every
 version and gtkpod needs to have specific support for your model for it to
 work.

 --
 Joost

Hi Joost,
   Ah...insomnia...a great excuse for playing with computers and
answering emails... ;-)

   I had the same idea about telling gtkpod to use this specific iPod
when I started with this, but as best I can tell so far gtkpod won't
see the iPod unless it shows up in dmesg as a USB disk drive. I
believe I read that on their Wiki and was going to try and find the
link at www.gtkpod.org to verify that but the web site isn't
responding right now. I'll double check that later.

   The iPod she has is a First Generation version. It won't run iOS
more recent that 3.x so she cannot get any of the newer features with
iOS5 like NetFlix movies. (At least as far as I can tell so far. I
haven't checked that out very much yet.)

   My real need here is pretty small. I was trying to find something
nice for my wife 'cause she's been doing nice things for me, but
there's no rush on this. My personal interest was really because I've
got a Kindle Fire coming in a couple of weeks which I want to use to
watch movies when I'm donating blood. (I do that a lot because my
blood is pretty unique.) Anyway, I figured out Handbrake for ripping
my DVD collection and was going to use the iPod to test the video
playback. Anyway, I can probably do that from a Windows VM, or worst
case boot my laptop into Windows and do it native if required.

   Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-05 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Saturday, November 05, 2011 04:48:54 AM Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
  On Friday, November 04, 2011 06:03:55 PM Mark Knecht wrote:
  2011/11/4 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
   Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice
   (dependency
   of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.
   
   Greetings,
   
   --
   Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net
 Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com
  
  Hi Jorge,
 Thanks for the ifuse idea. ifuse /mnt/ipod does seem to get the
  device mounted. However just poking around in the /mnt/ipod directory
  isn't very clear by itself about how music (and one day hopefully
  videos) are stored. Maybe I can find some info somewhere to help with
  that if necessary.
  
 Even with the device mounted it doesn't seem to be visible to
  gtkpod, and there aren't any new USB disk messages in dmesg. Just a
  single ifuse message is all that's added.
  
 Well, at least I can sort of communicate with the ipod even if I
  cannot do anything interesting yet.
  
 Thanks!
  
  - Mark
  
  Mark,
  
  I haven't played with my iPod touch yet, but the older models all
  worked with gtkpod.
  You might need to tell gtkpod to open the ipod by pointing it where it
  is mounted.
  
  Menu: Edit - Repository/iPod Options
  Then click on Add new repository/iPod and fill in the details for your
  iPod. (The backup-file is in my home-dir on my desktop for mine)
  
  Any files you manually copy to the iPod will NOT be picked up as a
  database file needs to be updated as well.
  
  Apple also has this annoying tendency to change the DB-structure for
  every version and gtkpod needs to have specific support for your model
  for it to work.
  
  --
  Joost
 
 Hi Joost,
Ah...insomnia...a great excuse for playing with computers and
 answering emails... ;-)
 
I had the same idea about telling gtkpod to use this specific iPod
 when I started with this, but as best I can tell so far gtkpod won't
 see the iPod unless it shows up in dmesg as a USB disk drive. I
 believe I read that on their Wiki and was going to try and find the
 link at www.gtkpod.org to verify that but the web site isn't
 responding right now. I'll double check that later.

Maybe for auto-detection, but the first time I played with gtkpod, I had 
problems auto-mounting usb-devices and always did the mounting as root.

Telling gtkpod where the iPod was mounted was sufficient.

The iPod she has is a First Generation version. It won't run iOS
 more recent that 3.x so she cannot get any of the newer features with
 iOS5 like NetFlix movies. (At least as far as I can tell so far. I
 haven't checked that out very much yet.)

I never did, my previous employer had a tendency to give out new iPods each 
year. Not sure if they still do, I would have preferred something more 
usefull, like an eReader.

My real need here is pretty small. I was trying to find something
 nice for my wife 'cause she's been doing nice things for me, but
 there's no rush on this. My personal interest was really because I've
 got a Kindle Fire coming in a couple of weeks which I want to use to
 watch movies when I'm donating blood. (I do that a lot because my
 blood is pretty unique.) Anyway, I figured out Handbrake for ripping
 my DVD collection and was going to use the iPod to test the video
 playback. Anyway, I can probably do that from a Windows VM, or worst
 case boot my laptop into Windows and do it native if required.

Virtualbox has decent USB-pass-through support. Even quite high performance.

Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.





Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-05 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 5, 2011 6:51 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I do that a lot because my
 blood is pretty unique.)

(sorry for the offtopicness, but I really am curious)

AB+ ?

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-04 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice (dependency
of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.

Greetings,

-- 
Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net
      Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Knecht
2011/11/4 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
 Did you install app-pda/ifuse and app-pda/libimobiledevice (dependency
 of ifuse and gtkpod)?. I do not recall touching any udev rule.

 Greetings,

 --
 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net
       Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com



Hi Jorge,
   Thanks for the ifuse idea. ifuse /mnt/ipod does seem to get the
device mounted. However just poking around in the /mnt/ipod directory
isn't very clear by itself about how music (and one day hopefully
videos) are stored. Maybe I can find some info somewhere to help with
that if necessary.

   Even with the device mounted it doesn't seem to be visible to
gtkpod, and there aren't any new USB disk messages in dmesg. Just a
single ifuse message is all that's added.

   Well, at least I can sort of communicate with the ipod even if I
cannot do anything interesting yet.

   Thanks!

- Mark



[gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?

2011-11-03 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I was looking at an app called gtkpod which looks like something my
wife might use to sync her iPod Touch. The gtkpod manual suggests that
when the system is setup correctly if I plug in her iPod I should see
it show up in dmesg as a USB disk. Currently I do not:

[  163.164161] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd
[  163.280726] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291
[  163.280731] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[  163.280734] usb 2-4: Product: iPod
[  163.280737] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[  163.280739] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: REMOVED-BY-MARK

   The manual also talks about making some udev rules, an example shown here:

#80GB IPOD
SUBSYSTEMS==usb, ATTRS{serial}==000A2700, KERNEL==sd?2, \
NAME=80gbipod, MODE=0664, OPTIONS=last_rule

#4GB IPOD NANO
SUBSYSTEMS==usb, ATTRS{serial}==000A2700, KERNEL==sd?2, \
NAME=4gbnano, MODE=0664, OPTIONS=last_rule

   Unfortunately it does not say what file to put these rules in so
from some other web pages I used /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ipod.rules.

c2stable ~ # ls -al /etc/udev/rules.d/
total 28
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov  3 14:21 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 23 15:09 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jun 23 15:07 .keep_sys-fs_udev-0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  166 Nov  3 12:08 60-ipod.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  126 Nov  3 14:18 60-vmware.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  790 Apr 13  2010 70-persistent-cd.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  627 Jun 23 15:09 70-persistent-net.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   28 Jan 21  2011 99-fuse.rules
c2stable ~ #

I've removed the serial number for the sake of this thread but the
udev file number and the number I see in dmesg to match:

c2stable ~ # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ipod.rules
#8GB IPOD Touch
SUBSYSTEMS==usb, ATTRS{serial}==SERIAL-NUMBER, KERNEL==sd?2, \
NAME=8gbipodtouch, MODE=0664, OPTIONS=last_rule
c2stable ~ #

   I've rebuilt my kernel to include everything Apple oriented, as
well as USB oriented, that's discussed on this page:

http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Apple_iPod

   Still, when I plug the iPod in it shows up but not as a disk:

[   79.115529] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd
[   79.233277] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291
[   79.233282] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[   79.233285] usb 2-4: Product: iPod
[   79.233288] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[   79.233291] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: SERIAL-NUMBER


   Does anyone here have this working? Can you see what I might be doing wrong?

   One possibly clue is that when I plug the iPod in KDE is popping up
a message about a new camera being attached. I assume KDE is behind
udev rules in terms of priority, but if not then possibly KDE is
somehow blocking it showing up as a USB device? If I remove it from
the KDE Camera Settings it just gets created the next time I plug it
in.

Thanks,
Mark