Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 10:56:35 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > That's not correct. My HP laser AIO can scan to email, a network > > folder or a USB stick. > > > > > Just downloaded an AIO manual (3050 series). It says the functionality > is Windows only, and needs to be configured using a Windows program. > Okay, that's probably bullshit, but ... Maybe that's true of that model, but it's certainly not true of all HP AIO devices. > The Dell is programmed via its web interface, and will scan to any CIFS > share. As can my HP. > But as I say, I'm sure when I've investigated in the past, it's always > required software on the computer to do the scan or email - oh - the AIO > manual says they can scan TO AN EMAIL PROGRAM. They can't "scan to > email" as I understand it ... it sounds like it fires up Outlook or > whatever, and sticks the scan in as an attachment. It doesn't sound like > it will talk to an email server and send an email with the scan > attached. Then why does the configuration web interface ask for the mail server details? -- Neil Bothwick The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas! pgpVCdmtFiwQv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 10:18:34 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it > >> probably won't do it. My Dells have been the only printer/scanners > >> I've had that do it - HP's don't, Epsons don't ... > > > > That's not correct. My HP laser AIO can scan to email, a network > > folder or a USB stick. > > > I've seen printers advertised as scanning to email and network folders, > and it turns out you need to control it FROM THE COMPUTER. (I saw the > adverts, downloaded the manual, and there was no mention of doing from > the front panel, but copious explanation of how to use the computer > software.) Bear in mind that I am not using adverts as my source of information but the printer sitting next to my desk. > My Dell, you need the computer to configure it, but then everything is > controlled from the printer front panel. It's exactly the same with my HP. You don't even need a windows program to configure it, although they do supply one, as the printer has a built in web server for configuration. And if you plug in a USB stick it opens a menu that includes an option to scan to the stick. -- Neil Bothwick Help put the "fun" back in "dysfunctional" ! pgpf0sZDzhSgk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On 01/03/18 22:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:56:15 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money >>> to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document >>> or writes it to a network file server. >> >> Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it probably >> won't do it. My Dells have been the only printer/scanners I've had that >> do it - HP's don't, Epsons don't ... > > That's not correct. My HP laser AIO can scan to email, a network folder > or a USB stick. > > Just downloaded an AIO manual (3050 series). It says the functionality is Windows only, and needs to be configured using a Windows program. Okay, that's probably bullshit, but ... The Dell is programmed via its web interface, and will scan to any CIFS share. But as I say, I'm sure when I've investigated in the past, it's always required software on the computer to do the scan or email - oh - the AIO manual says they can scan TO AN EMAIL PROGRAM. They can't "scan to email" as I understand it ... it sounds like it fires up Outlook or whatever, and sticks the scan in as an attachment. It doesn't sound like it will talk to an email server and send an email with the scan attached. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On 01/03/18 22:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:56:15 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money >>> to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document >>> or writes it to a network file server. >> >> Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it probably >> won't do it. My Dells have been the only printer/scanners I've had that >> do it - HP's don't, Epsons don't ... > > That's not correct. My HP laser AIO can scan to email, a network folder > or a USB stick. > > I've seen printers advertised as scanning to email and network folders, and it turns out you need to control it FROM THE COMPUTER. (I saw the adverts, downloaded the manual, and there was no mention of doing from the front panel, but copious explanation of how to use the computer software.) My Dell, you need the computer to configure it, but then everything is controlled from the printer front panel. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
Happy with my OfficeJet Pro 8620.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:56:15 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money > > to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document > > or writes it to a network file server. > > Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it probably > won't do it. My Dells have been the only printer/scanners I've had that > do it - HP's don't, Epsons don't ... That's not correct. My HP laser AIO can scan to email, a network folder or a USB stick. -- Neil Bothwick Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective with who it's friends are. pgpvZiBo54_we.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On 01/03/18 15:43, Grant Edwards wrote: > If I cared about scanning, I'd be very tempted to spend enough money > to get a network-connected printer that just e-mails me a PDF document > or writes it to a network file server. Make sure you check the specs. Either it'll be expensive, or it probably won't do it. My Dells have been the only printer/scanners I've had that do it - HP's don't, Epsons don't ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On 01/03/18 17:41, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 1 March 2018 15:29:39 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction printer, copier. I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. >>> >>> I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. >> >> It's not. > > +1 I agree ... (but see below) > >>> I'd pick mono laser over any inkjet. > > I had an inkjet but I didn't use it much, so every time I came to use it the > jets were blocked. Eventually the condition was terminal. I now use only my > trusty old Kyocera FS-1020D mono laser. > I think modern ink-jets are rather better. The one we've got now seems okay - the very first one I've been any where near happy with. It's not perfect, but the photos are better than a laser, and my wife prints card which the laser printer chokes on. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On Thursday, 1 March 2018 15:29:39 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > > > printer, copier. > > > > > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > > > I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. > > It's not. +1 > > I'd pick mono laser over any inkjet. I had an inkjet but I didn't use it much, so every time I came to use it the jets were blocked. Eventually the condition was terminal. I now use only my trusty old Kyocera FS-1020D mono laser. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:10:58 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > For my birthday (!) my children want to offer me a multifunction > > printer, copier. > > > > I ask you for an idea which one they could buy. > > I despise all inkjets, but maybe that's just me. It's not. > I'd pick mono laser over any inkjet. That depends on your printing needs. I've now got an HP colour laser AIO device. It was expensive but it does everything I need with minimal fuss. The only point I'd make about HP AIO devices is that while the hplip package is free and open source, to use it with a scanner it downloads a non-free binary blob. Whether this matters depends on whether you are a pragmatist or zealot ;-) > Many years ago, I worked with a Brother mono laser multifunction > printer and the "print" part worked fine with Linux. I don't think I > ever tried to set it up the scanning. I had a similar device and it was a bitch to set up. -- Neil Bothwick Stupid user error. Terminate user (Y/n) ? pgpwzw2ALK0cA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins
James wrote: Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: So, how does one change the bottom margin to say 1/2 or even 3/4 inch or something? Is there a way? Use to be (decades ago) it was in lp or lpr filter files. Now (at least my experiences) is that each app (particularly if it is a gui based app) has it's own method. Some retain settings other do not; ymmv. For cups settings, I google for margin ideas for printers.conf. PS, copy out your config files in /etc/cups/ so when cups hammers them in the future, you have working backup copies sorry I could not help more... I'd be most curious to learn of a universal method nowadays, particularly one that works on ascii, text and such printed via lp. James I googled before posting this and I found pretty much what you are describing. I found some really old posts but given how much things have changed, I doubt those would still apply. The closest I found was to edit the ppd file itself. Given the age of that match, I'm worried even that may not work or only work in applications I'm not using anyway. I have no idea how much that may have changed especially given how much cups has changed the user interface. I'm hoping someone has a idea on this tho. It's annoying as heck to print something and not be able to read the parts that are needed. By the way, I'm wanting to do this in Seamonkey and Firefox. Well, so far anyway. I may end up printing them to a PDF file then printing them from that. Maybe that will give me some room at the bottom. Pain in the rear tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins
walt wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges. Now I want to do some printing. Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable. I've looked in Seamonkey settings, nothing. I've looked in Hplip, nothing there. I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense. I don't like the new cups interface. cups, bah! Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'. From painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to recreate them. By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting localhost:631 in a web browser. Is that the cups interface you're using? It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago. Thing is, cups or not, I can't find anything to adjust the margin. Nothing in cups, nothing in hplip either. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins
On 07/06/2015 06:40 PM, walt wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:41:07 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges. Now I want to do some printing. Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable. I've looked in Seamonkey settings, nothing. I've looked in Hplip, nothing there. I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense. I don't like the new cups interface. cups, bah! Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'. From painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to recreate them. By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting localhost:631 in a web browser. Is that the cups interface you're using? It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago. Dale, did you try it *this* time? If not, please try the same-ole-same-ole tired remedy just one more time. The price is right :) Have you tried lpadmin? I seem to recall my old printer I had this problem and was able to use: `lpadmin -o page-bottom-default=36 -o page-top-default=36` That set a system-wide default. IIRC it's set by dpi, but it's been a while. Might have to experiment to see if it still works. To see options you can use `lpoptions -l` My new printer uses foomatic drivers and it works properly without messing around with options to set the margins. If that doesn't help then I don't have a clue... There should be man pages for both lpadmin and lpoptions. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins
walt wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:41:07 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges. Now I want to do some printing. Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable. I've looked in Seamonkey settings, nothing. I've looked in Hplip, nothing there. I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense. I don't like the new cups interface. cups, bah! Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'. From painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to recreate them. By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting localhost:631 in a web browser. Is that the cups interface you're using? It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago. Dale, did you try it *this* time? If not, please try the same-ole-same-ole tired remedy just one more time. The price is right :) Yes I did. The printer works fine. It's just the margins that I need to change. There used to be a way to set the margins but that is gone. Anyway, before when I did a update, the printer wouldn't work at all. It would generally just sit there claiming it is going to print but never does. Deleting and adding it again would fix that. That was a long time ago. When I have printer problems, that it what I try first. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins
Daniel Frey wrote: Have you tried lpadmin? I seem to recall my old printer I had this problem and was able to use: `lpadmin -o page-bottom-default=36 -o page-top-default=36` That set a system-wide default. IIRC it's set by dpi, but it's been a while. Might have to experiment to see if it still works. To see options you can use `lpoptions -l` My new printer uses foomatic drivers and it works properly without messing around with options to set the margins. If that doesn't help then I don't have a clue... There should be man pages for both lpadmin and lpoptions. Dan What I did was edit the file like I found with google. I've only printed a couple pages so far but it seems to work. I changed the margin setting from 36 to 56. I'll likely have to print some more to see if it works OK for sure. I'm hoping. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
