Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
On Friday 22 June 2007 03:19, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Thanks; you are right. I eventually found it too. I now see where I got into trouble. I didn't set the snmp use flag and hence hplip didn't bring in net-analyzer/net-snmp. Is this a bug? That is, should hplip unconditionally depend on net-snmp? hplip includes hp-check, which complained that I needed libnetsnmp-devel. I do not think that this is a bug. If you need information from networked printers, e.g. amount of ink left in the cartridge, or what not, then you enable the snmp flag and all 4.9M of net-analyzer/net-snmp and 5.9M of its dependencies will be downloaded and installed. Now, hplip-check is somewhat drastic in its remarks: == Checking for dependency libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library development files... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP. == Does this mean that ALL flags must be enabled for hplip to function properly? Hmm, not sure on this one. I still have not been able to install my network-attached hp officejet 7310 using hp-setup (it install fine via cups). The trouble is that scanning doesn't work and various network posts suggest that installing via hp-setup is needed for most of the hp tool and for full functionality of the device. Sure, but since your device is networked and you want the full functionality this will definitely require the snmp flag AND the scanner flag. Hope this helps. -- Regards, Mick pgpF10fAGDwXv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
At Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:56:12 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but since your device is networked and you want the full functionality this will definitely require the snmp flag AND the scanner flag. Hope this helps. Indeed the comments on this group and the hplip list have been quite helpful. The snmp use flag is required for a network printer (the wiki had this but I somehow missed it). The only problem on the gentoo end is that the ppd files are not put where hp-setup wants them. * For the printer not so bad, since hp-setup offers a manual specification ability. * For the fax, no manual specification is offer (I commented on this to the hplip list) so adding a symlink is necessary Thanks for your help. At this point I have printing (always did, but now the printer is using hplip) and scanning, the latter was the goal of the project. The fax is recognized by hp-setup, but a complaint is given and I am not a heavy fax user so I am please with the output. I am following up the fax issue on the hplip list. Question: Do you think the fact that the ppd files are not put in the right place for hplip is a bug I should file? thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
On Friday 22 June 2007 14:46, Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:56:12 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but since your device is networked and you want the full functionality this will definitely require the snmp flag AND the scanner flag. Hope this helps. Indeed the comments on this group and the hplip list have been quite helpful. The snmp use flag is required for a network printer (the wiki had this but I somehow missed it). The only problem on the gentoo end is that the ppd files are not put where hp-setup wants them. I've noticed this too and it's rather annoying. * For the printer not so bad, since hp-setup offers a manual specification ability. * For the fax, no manual specification is offer (I commented on this to the hplip list) so adding a symlink is necessary Thanks for your help. At this point I have printing (always did, but now the printer is using hplip) and scanning, the latter was the goal of the project. The fax is recognized by hp-setup, but a complaint is given and I am not a heavy fax user so I am please with the output. I am following up the fax issue on the hplip list. Would you perhaps write a wiki article once you've squared all the circles? Question: Do you think the fact that the ppd files are not put in the right place for hplip is a bug I should file? Yes, I would think so. Ideally, the ebuild should cater for copying/symlinking appropriate files, or at least popping up a message at emerge time to tell you to do so manually. Although I have emerged hplip I am not using it. I print through cups using hpjis. Is there a benefit to using hplip and its tools? -- Regards, Mick pgp7TUAL4aC6Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
At Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:19:25 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 22 June 2007 14:46, Allan Gottlieb wrote: The only problem on the gentoo end is that the ppd files are not put where hp-setup wants them. I've noticed this too and it's rather annoying. At this point I have printing (always did, but now the printer is using hplip) and scanning, the latter was the goal of the project. The fax is recognized by hp-setup, but a complaint is given and I am not a heavy fax user so I am please with the output. Would you perhaps write a wiki article once you've squared all the circles? Sure. Perhaps an update to the one that is there. Question: Do you think the fact that the ppd files are not put in the right place for hplip is a bug I should file? Yes, I would think so. Ideally, the ebuild should cater for copying/symlinking appropriate files, or at least popping up a message at emerge time to tell you to do so manually. Right. Although I have emerged hplip I am not using it. I print through cups using hpjis. Is there a benefit to using hplip and its tools? I believe hplip gives access to all the features, e.g., ink level, but I haven't tried anything like that. The reason I went into this exercise was to get scanning and that was successful. It is possible that I will get computer control of faxing as well (the main question is how much effort I would be willing to put in considering that I don't fax much at all). allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
On Thursday 21 June 2007 19:40:23 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Which package contains libnetsnmp-devel? $eix -c snmp [...] [I] net-analyzer/net-snmp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/28/2006): Software for generating and retrieving SNMP data [...] Probably that one, but that's just a guess. Gentoo doesn't separate packages into -devel versions -- you get all the development stuff as part of the base package (since it's usually required to compile, as Gentoo does, pacakges that depend on it). There isn't a libnetsnmp package in gentoo, nor a netsnmp package in any of the *-libs categories. Naming something netsnmp seems a bit redundant to me anyway, I'm fairly sure the N of sNmp stands for network, so I just searched for snmp. 14 hits. 1 is in a *-libs category, but the short description says it's specifically for KDE, not what you are looking for I think. 1 (other) has lib in the name of the package, but it's specifically for ruby, again, I was fairly sure that wasn't what you were looking for. Also, other distros generally but ruby in the package name of ruby libraries. Down to 12 packages. I threw out packages in dev-perl and perl-python, again, because of other distros naming practices. 1 package was in sec-policy which is definitely not the place for a lib. 1 package was a plugin for something else, so I decided that was also probably not what you want. Down to 4 packages. At that point, I decided the most likely package was net-snmp because of the name. bsnmp says it's a library (whereas net-snmp doesn't) so that would probably be a good second choice. snmpmon (a tool) and snmptt could also ship that library, but that's probably a stretch. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
At Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:54:06 -0500 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 21 June 2007 19:40:23 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Which package contains libnetsnmp-devel? $eix -c snmp [...] [I] net-analyzer/net-snmp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/28/2006): Software for generating and retrieving SNMP data [...] Probably that one, but that's just a guess. Thanks; you are right. I eventually found it too. I now see where I got into trouble. I didn't set the snmp use flag and hence hplip didn't bring in net-analyzer/net-snmp. Is this a bug? That is, should hplip unconditionally depend on net-snmp? hplip includes hp-check, which complained that I needed libnetsnmp-devel. I still have not been able to install my network-attached hp officejet 7310 using hp-setup (it install fine via cups). The trouble is that scanning doesn't work and various network posts suggest that installing via hp-setup is needed for most of the hp tool and for full functionality of the device. When/if I (with help from the hplip list) resolve my scanning problem, I will check if net-snmp is really needed. If so, I am inclined to file a bug. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
