Re: [Gimp-developer] Script-Fu - Batch Mode Problem

2002-12-20 Thread Jay Cox
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 18:34, Patrick McFarland wrote:
 On 20-Dec-2002, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 11:29:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That's what I thought as well...but the scaling with imagemagick was causing
   pixelation.
  
  Scaling up or down? With which filter? (You're sure you resampled and not did
  a simple quick rescale, right?)
 
 If your're scaling down in gimp, go into preferences, and change scaling mode
 to linear. Cubic sucks for scaling down, and Im not sure why Gimp even allows
 users to make a choice (bicubic and such are always used for scaling up,
 bilinear and such are always used for scaling down.)

Do you even use gimp?  When downsampling gimp will use bilinear
filtering even when bicubic is specified.  There are usefull techniques
that require the use of nearest neighbor or bilinear resampling.

I'm not sure why gimp would do a better job of downsampling than
imagemagick.  It doesnt do anything fancy, just a rectangular
area-sample.

-- 
Jay Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: alpha vs. transparency / translucency

2002-12-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-12-19 at 1208.55 +0100):
  the user shouldn't be confronted with the term RGBA at all. IIRC, this
  is the case unless she's writing a script or plug-in in which case she
  is not a user any longer but a developer.
 
 Then no confrontation with CMYK either, or with bit depth or DPI or
 moire or lots of other terms. Sorry, but all these are terms of the
 trade, dunno why should that be not under user control and view, at
 least if the app is not a basic paint app but something more advanced

I agree for CMYK, DPI as well as RGB, but I don't think that RGBA is
a commonly used term and it should thus not be used in the user
interface and AFAIK it isn't.


Salut, Sven
___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



Re: [Gimp-developer] Script-Fu - Batch Mode Problem

2002-12-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I had posted this earlier to the gimp-users listSomeone
 suggested that I may find an answer on this list.  I am looking for
 an suggestion you can provide.
 
 I am having an issue with a Script that I have written being called
 from the command line.

we will only be able to help you if you provide the script or
(preferably) a smaller test script that triggers the problem.


Salut, Sven
___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



Re: [Gimp-developer] List of changes for the future 1.2.4 release

2002-12-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Note that just checking write() or fwrite() return values may not be
  enough: some filesystems delay the error indictation until close() is
  called on the fd.  So this bug may well be influenced by the filesystem
  GIMP is writing to at the time.
 
 Yes, this is very important!  Checking only the return value of fwrite()
 and ignoring the return value of close() is a recipe for disaster.  You
 should also bear in mind that some filesystems (even the good old ext2)
 may behave differently if quotas are enabled.

please reopen the bug-report then.


Salut, Sven
___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



Re: [Gimp-developer] New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions

2002-12-20 Thread Stephen J Baker
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Michael J. Hammel wrote:

 Thus spoke David Necas (Yeti)
  IMHO novice mode (if ever implemented) should restrict the
  things user can do to some sane set (simplifying the
  interface), and not try to turn the Gimp into Eliza

 Most of the time that I've heard of problems like this it has been when the
 wrong layer has been selected or a layer with transparency is in use and
 the user doesn't understand why you can't draw in a transparent area.
 Novice mode might be as simple as forcing users to use a single layer that
 doesn't have transparency enabled by default, allowing them to learn the
 rest of the programs features without complicating their experience with layers.

In my experience, it's most frequently been when some kind of select/cut/paste
operation has created an un-anchored extra layer.  In that case, the
novice (who realises that layers are a complication - and is ignoring them
for now) has the implications of layers forced upon them.

 Just a thought.  I'm not convinced that a novice mode is worth it though,
 for all the same reasons mentioned already (like every novice will think
 something in novice mode is still to difficult to understand).

I dislike the idea of novice mode too.


Steve Baker  (817)619-2657 (Vox/Vox-Mail)
L3Com/Link Simulation  Training (817)619-2466 (Fax)
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.link.com
Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.sjbaker.org

___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Re: alpha vs. transparency / translucency

2002-12-20 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-12-20 at 1246.03 +0100):
 I agree for CMYK, DPI as well as RGB, but I don't think that RGBA is
 a commonly used term and it should thus not be used in the user
 interface and AFAIK it isn't.

You should then check GIMP's Compose operation, you can compose three
images as RGB, or four as RGBA. And when you inspect a PNG you can get
ones that are RGB and some others that are RGBA (file(1) reports all
this correctly), no coder voodoo, but plain user interests. For me and
the people I know around, RGBA is a perfectly normal term, at the same
level of the others.

GSR
 
___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



[Gimp-developer] A Free Software project of interest.

2002-12-20 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
I saw this program and thought it might be interesting to GIMP users and
developers.
http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/

Hopefully Gimp 2.0/GEGL/PUPUS will use some of the ideas there.

Rockwalrus



___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer



Re: [Gimp-developer] List of changes for the future 1.2.4 release

2002-12-20 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 20 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Hi,

 Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Note that just checking write() or fwrite() return values may not be
   enough: some filesystems delay the error indictation until close() is
   called on the fd.  So this bug may well be influenced by the filesystem
   GIMP is writing to at the time.
 
  Yes, this is very important!  Checking only the return value of fwrite()
  and ignoring the return value of close() is a recipe for disaster.  You
  should also bear in mind that some filesystems (even the good old ext2)
  may behave differently if quotas are enabled.

 please reopen the bug-report then.

No need; we check fclose()'s return value in both branches now.

Rockwalrus

___
Gimp-developer mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer