Re: [Gimp-developer] Slow preview on highres images]

2003-06-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Damien Genet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why can't you launch a « Gimp Fund » through paypal, like the Blender
 foundation did ? I think that the Gimp has much more visibility than
 Blender did, and would have no problems raising money. Actually, it may
 even help to boost the development.

I'm not sure if it would boost development, it might as well hurt it.
The problem with money is that we would somehow have to decide how to
spend it. Paying developers from such a fund could cause quite some
disagreements. If others are paid for their contribution, why would
anyone want to contribute unless (s)he's paid as well?

I do believe however that a GIMP Foundation of some sort would make
sense. It would make it a lot easier to raise fundings for events like
developer conferences and would thus allow us to do them more
frequently. I hope that we can discuss (or maybe even found) such an
organization on the GIMP Developers Conference this summer.


Sven
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[Gimp-developer] The first official release of the new GimpPreviewwidget

2003-06-11 Thread Ernst Lippe
After an intolerable long wait, I just released the first official version
of the new GimpPreview plug-in widget. 
You can find it at http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview;.

It has changed considerably compared with the previous proposal. I
have completely eliminated the entire event-id business. In the new
version at most one instance of the rendering function can be active.
Also all names have been changed to start with GimpPreview.

For the time being, I have made this a separate distribution instead
of submitting it directly to the Gimp CVS. The main reason is that
this makes it easier for developers to test it. It contains several
example plug-ins (spread, pixelize and colorify) and a simple test
plug-in. The distribution also contains a tutorial, design document
and Gtk-doc documentation.

Although I can imagine that some persons would be highly reluctant to
make any comments, I would like to encourage everyone, especially all
plug-in developers, to examine it critically. At the moment there is
no installed user-base and it should be fairly easy to change things.

greetings,

Ernst Lippe
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The first official release of the newGimpPreview widget

2003-06-11 Thread Adam D. Moss
Ernst Lippe wrote:
After an intolerable long wait, I just released the first official version
of the new GimpPreview plug-in widget. 
You can find it at http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview;.
I've given it a cursory scan and it looks pretty good to me
(interface and functionalitywise, that is, since any cosmetic
details are a minor issue).
It's always good to see people writing docs as well as code!

I quite look forward to using this at some point.

I really suspect that if there are practical flaws in the design
then they're more likely to become apparent when authors try
to apply the widget to a wide variety of plugins, rather than
simply by reading the design docs.
Regards,
--Adam
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The first official release of the newGimpPreview widget

2003-06-11 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:45:20 +0100
Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ernst Lippe wrote:
  After an intolerable long wait, I just released the first official version
  of the new GimpPreview plug-in widget. 
  You can find it at http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview;.
 
 I've given it a cursory scan and it looks pretty good to me
 (interface and functionalitywise, that is, since any cosmetic
 details are a minor issue).
Thanks.

 It's always good to see people writing docs as well as code!
Lack of good documentation has always been one of my main frustrations
when using software.
On the other hand, writing documentation is hard work, I've
spent a lot more time on updating the documentation than I've
spent on updating the code.

 I quite look forward to using this at some point.
 
 I really suspect that if there are practical flaws in the design
 then they're more likely to become apparent when authors try
 to apply the widget to a wide variety of plugins, rather than
 simply by reading the design docs.
I think that you are right. But at least there are now a
few example plug-ins that the users can play with to see
if the user interface is OK.

BTW, I forgot to mention in my previous post that I am
of course highly interested in all experiences of developers
that have tried to use this widget.


greetings,

Ernst Lippe
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Slow preview on highres images]

2003-06-11 Thread Damien Genet
Hi,

Le mer 11/06/2003 à 11:45, Sven Neumann a écrit :
 I'm not sure if it would boost development, it might as well hurt it.
 The problem with money is that we would somehow have to decide how to
 spend it. Paying developers from such a fund could cause quite some
 disagreements. If others are paid for their contribution, why would
 anyone want to contribute unless (s)he's paid as well?

Yes, you are certainly right, but this money could also be used to
organize events, and pay travel expenses or buy some hardware if a main
developper needs it, like the AbiWord ppl does. That's really less
controversial, but could prove to be really usefull.

-- 
Dam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Slow preview on highres images]

2003-06-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,

Damien Genet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Why can't you launch a « Gimp Fund » through paypal, like the Blender
foundation did ? I think that the Gimp has much more visibility than
Blender did, and would have no problems raising money. Actually, it may
even help to boost the development.


I'm not sure if it would boost development, it might as well hurt it.
The problem with money is that we would somehow have to decide how to
spend it. Paying developers from such a fund could cause quite some
disagreements. If others are paid for their contribution, why would
anyone want to contribute unless (s)he's paid as well?
I do believe however that a GIMP Foundation of some sort would make
sense. It would make it a lot easier to raise fundings for events like
developer conferences and would thus allow us to do them more
frequently. I hope that we can discuss (or maybe even found) such an
organization on the GIMP Developers Conference this summer.
Sven
I am on it.  I'll have a presentation to give on the subject.

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Daniel
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