Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Choi, JiHui
Hi, Sven

Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

In my case, I'm used to GIMP UI, and I love GIMP. but I think I'll not
like and will not use GIMP 2.6.x, because of  just the font size. -_-;

so.. I hope you consider once more, please. :)



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GEGL making failed

2008-09-18 Thread Kevin Cozens
Cédric Gémy wrote:
 Does anyone know what pb could cause this error ?

The atop.c file isn't part of the GEGL source. It would help if you posted the 
source somewhere. You are probably missing some include file, missing a 
#define, or have a syntax error in the top part of the file.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Choi, JiHui wrote:
 Hi, Sven

 Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
 If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
 and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
 big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

Hi,

It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.

Makes me wonder what system you have.

P.S. By the way, there is no such thing as cleartype fonts ;-)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, David Gowers wrote:

 The appropriate solution to this may be to package a simple alternate
 theme which makes the offending fonts larger, and install this theme
 if the language might require it (eg Japanese, Chinese, Korean)

2008-09-18  Sven Neumann

* app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
configurable in gtkrc.

* themes/Default/gtkrc
* themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
property names to use the canonical names.

:-)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Choi, JiHui wrote:
 Hi, Sven

 Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
 If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
 and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
 big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

 Hi,

 It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
 mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.
Font antialiasing is not sane in some circumstances -- it simply blurs
the glyphs in these cases. For example, complex characters as shown in
Choi's screenshot. if there is SIGNIFICANT detail in antialiasing,
then the font is too small. if there is NOT significant detail in
antialiasing, the font should also look ok without antialiasing.

I would also argue that turning off antialiasing makes virtually
everything more readable, even when the glyphs are simple.

Anyway!

The appropriate solution to this may be to package a simple alternate
theme which makes the offending fonts larger, and install this theme
if the language might require it (eg Japanese, Chinese, Korean)

David
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Guillermo Espertino
 2008-09-18  Sven Neumann
 
 * app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
 configurable in gtkrc.
 
 * themes/Default/gtkrc
 * themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
 default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
 property names to use the canonical names.
 
 :-)
 
 Alexandre

We all love when grumpy Sven says NO! at first, but later he introduces
silently a patch.
:-)

Now seriously: That's a great option. Too big fonts were a problem for
us who use western characters, because they used a lot of screen space
and now the more compact dialogs look much better. But that seems to be
a problem for systems with eastern characters. So this patch will indeed
make everyone happy.
Thank you Sven!

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GEGL making failed

2008-09-18 Thread Cédric Gémy
Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008 à 09:36 -0400, Kevin Cozens a écrit :
 Cédric Gémy wrote:
  Does anyone know what pb could cause this error ?
 
 The atop.c file isn't part of the GEGL source. It would help if you posted 
 the 
 source somewhere. You are probably missing some include file, missing a 
 #define, or have a syntax error in the top part of the file.
 

make distclean and recheckout everything has been enough, thanks for you
help.

pygmee

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GEGL making failed

2008-09-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:00 +, Cédric Gémy wrote:
 Hello
 Does anyone know what pb could cause this error ?
 
 In file included from atop.c:21:
 ../../gegl/gegl-chant.h:26:2: error: #error GEGL_CHANT_C_FILE not
 defined

The problem is that some files in GEGL are autogenerated. And there are
no proper Makefile rules for this step. Instead they are generated when
you run autogen.sh. So, unlike in other projects, in GEGL you may have
to rerun autogen.sh after you updated your source tree. It would
certainly be nice if someone could fix this.


Sven


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[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.5.4 development release

2008-09-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

GIMP 2.5.4 has been released yesterday. The source code can be
downloaded from ftp.gimp.org or one of the many mirrors listed at
http://gimp.org/downloads/

This is expected to be the last release before the stable GIMP 2.6.0
release. We should be very careful now not to introduce new bugs. There
are only a handful of bugs left that need to be addressed before 2.6 and
I hope that we can push 2.6.0 out before the end of this month. There is
still a lot to do though. It would be nice if we could get the gimp.org
web-site prepared for 2.6. Martin is working on release notes as far as
I know. But I am sure he will appreciate your help. Some new screenshots
for http://gimp.org/screenshots/ would be nice as well. If you want to
help, please offer your help on this list or join #gimp on irc.gimp.org.

Translation updates would also be very much appreciated. If you want to
help, please contact your translation team at
http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/ Don't worry in case your translation does
not make it into 2.6.0. There are going to be regular 2.6 maintainance
releases.


Changes in GIMP 2.5.4
=

 - improved look and feel of the Navigation dialog and navigation popups
 - improved positioning of the image in the image window
 - by default turned off use of GEGL for color operations
 - moved the Use GEGL checkbox to the Debug menu
 - optimized the new scaling code
 - various fixes to the Python bindings
 - added Python bindings for most GIMP widgets to the gimpui module
 - merged GimpHRuler and GimpVRuler classes into GimpRuler
 - added Search entry to the Keyboard Shortcuts and Input Controller
   configuration dialogs
 - allow to drop images (in addition to URIs) on the empty image window
 - improved error handling in Script-Fu
 - merged upstream TinyScheme changes into Script-Fu interpreter
 - bug fixes and code cleanup
 

Contributors:

  Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer, Martin Nordholts, Tor Lillqvist,
  Lars-Peter Clausen, Michael Schumacher, Kevin Cozens,
  LightningIsMyName, David Gowers, Dennis Ranke


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[Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
Not clear these are bugs, I'll gladly file bugs for them if it
will help.

(1) filters-recently used has a list of recnetly used fiters;
these menu items bringup dialogue boxes, so they should have
... after the names, and don't.

(2) am I the ony person bothered by having two entries for New in
the file menu?  They should probably be combined.

(3) if I have an image open, and minimise/iconify it, I now have
no way to create a new file, except by opening the image again.
File-new from an image window copies the characteristics of
that window, too, so I now find myself creating grayscale
images all the time.

Please can we have the menus available from the right mouse button
at least, in the toolbox drop area?

Liam


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Choi, JiHui
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
 mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.
 Makes me wonder what system you have.

I use Windows XP pro SP2 korean version. and the default korean font of XP is
gulim. but this font doesn't support cleartype or antialiasing. so many korean
people(or some whose the problem which we have) can't be comfortable.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Guillermo Espertino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this patch will indeed
 make everyone happy.
 Thank you Sven!

Right. Thank you Sven!! :)


Regards,


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