Re: [Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 13:33 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
 Not clear these are bugs, I'll gladly file bugs for them if it
 will help.
 
 (1) filters-recently used has a list of recnetly used fiters;
 these menu items bringup dialogue boxes, so they should have
 ... after the names, and don't.

That code is a little tricky, but I have done some changes in trunk and
the labels are now correct at least for plug-ins that register their
menu entries using the gimp_plugin_menu_register() API.

 (2) am I the ony person bothered by having two entries for New in
 the file menu?  They should probably be combined.

So far no one came up with a good proposal on how this could be solved.

 (3) if I have an image open, and minimise/iconify it, I now have
 no way to create a new file, except by opening the image again.
 File-new from an image window copies the characteristics of
 that window, too, so I now find myself creating grayscale
 images all the time.

Ideally if you minimized the last open image, the toolbox and docks
would minimize with it. Unfortunately this only works if you enable
transient-docks and this setting has other issues.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-19 Thread peter sikking
Sven wrote:

 Liam wrote:

 (2) am I the ony person bothered by having two entries for New in
the file menu?  They should probably be combined.

 So far no one came up with a good proposal on how this could be  
 solved.


the structure is good: 'New...' _must_ remain a first level menu item,
the rest is OK to have in a sub-menu.

My solution is to rename the 'New' sub-menu to 'Create'

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[Gimp-developer] Script-Fu Command Priority

2008-09-19 Thread Samuel
Hi there,

the GIMP Script-Fu engine doesn't make a difference between registered
definitions and local ones.
This could be a problem, because if I write a script with a local
function, but another script has that function too, GIMP could use the
other function. With many scripts in the scripts folder it's hard to
find out, which script causes the problem.

It would be nice if GIMP could prefer local definitions to global ones
or if just registered definitions would go global.


Thx,
Samuel
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Re: [Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 12:46 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

 the structure is good: 'New...' _must_ remain a first level menu item,
 the rest is OK to have in a sub-menu.
 
 My solution is to rename the 'New' sub-menu to 'Create'

We have done that change in trunk.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 12:46 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

 the structure is good: 'New...' _must_ remain a first level menu item,
agreed with that part...

 the rest is OK to have in a sub-menu.
and with this...

 
 My solution is to rename the 'New' sub-menu to 'Create'
so I think this is a good idea.

Might be difficult to preserve the (artificial) distinction between New
and Create.  How about Get From or Make From?

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] some minor nits

2008-09-19 Thread SorinN
New Layer from Clipboard, New Layer from Screenshoot ( to be explicit and
correct and to be online with the Usability rules ), anyway AS IS NOW is
pretty OK.

2008/9/19 Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 12:46 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

  the structure is good: 'New...' _must_ remain a first level menu item,
 agreed with that part...

  the rest is OK to have in a sub-menu.
 and with this...

 
  My solution is to rename the 'New' sub-menu to 'Create'
 so I think this is a good idea.

 Might be difficult to preserve the (artificial) distinction between New
 and Create.  How about Get From or Make From?

 Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 72, Issue 15

2008-09-19 Thread Niels Giesen
 Hi there,

 the GIMP Script-Fu engine doesn't make a difference between registered
 definitions and local ones.
 This could be a problem, because if I write a script with a local
 function, but another script has that function too, GIMP could use the
 other function. With many scripts in the scripts folder it's hard to
 find out, which script causes the problem.

This is right; however, I think it is better to educate ourselves only
to define local functions in local scope, i.e. within a define form,
which is perfectly feasonable. Functions local to a script should be
truly local, but please consider the case of library functions.

 It would be nice if GIMP could prefer local definitions to global ones
 or if just registered definitions would go global.


 Thx,
 Samuel


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 Hi,

 On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 12:46 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

 the structure is good: 'New...' _must_ remain a first level menu item,
 the rest is OK to have in a sub-menu.

 My solution is to rename the 'New' sub-menu to 'Create'

 We have done that change in trunk.


 Sven




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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.5.4 development release

2008-09-19 Thread bgw
Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 GIMP 2.5.4 has been released yesterday.
I would love to help, esp. with documentation as I learn about GIMP. But 
I'm unable to install 2.5.4.

I got babl and gegl from svn repo
babl]$ ./autogen.sh says
I am going to run ./configure with the following arguments:

  --enable-maintainer-mode
  ...
  Now type 'make' to compile BABL.
  $ make
  -- completes with no further issues
  # make install
quote
--
Libraries have been installed in:
   /usr/local/lib
/quote
  -- completes w/o error or warning. Then
  # ldconfig  to reconfigure the libraries
  # ldconfig -p | grep babl
libbabl-0.0.so.0 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libbabl-0.0.so.0
libbabl-0.0.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libbabl-0.0.so
  # ls -l /usr/local/lib | grep babl
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root4096 2008-09-19 15:56 babl-0.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 819 2008-09-19 15:56 libbabl-0.0.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  21 2008-09-19 15:56 libbabl-0.0.so - 
libbabl-0.0.so.0.23.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  21 2008-09-19 15:56 libbabl-0.0.so.0 - 
libbabl-0.0.so.0.23.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  354691 2008-09-19 15:56 libbabl-0.0.so.0.23.0

gegl]$ ./autogen.sh balks at babl:
quote
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for BABL... configure: error: Package requirements (babl = 
0.0.22) were not met:

No package 'babl' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.
/quote

Given the standard library structure above, why doesn't gegl autogen 
find babl?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.5.4 development release

2008-09-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 20:09 -0700, bgw wrote:

 checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
 checking for BABL... configure: error: Package requirements (babl = 
 0.0.22) were not met:
 
 No package 'babl' found
 
 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
 installed software in a non-standard prefix.
 /quote
 
 Given the standard library structure above, why doesn't gegl autogen 
 find babl?

You need to do

export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/

You also need:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib

You will also need to do this when running your copy of gimp.
To remind me, I have a shell script, lgimp, that runs the local
gimp with:

#! /bin/sh

# export MALLOC_CHECK_=1 
GEGL_NO_NODE_CACHES=1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib BABL_ERROR=0.0
exec /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.5 $@

you probably don't need the GEGL_NO_NODE_CACHES or BABL_ERROR settings,
though, so you could use,

#! /bin/sh

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib exec /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.5 $@


A simpler alternative is to put gimp in a place like $HOME/gimp where
it won't conflict with any installed version of gimp.

Liam

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