Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
This thread makes me want to draw Wilber in spandex and some cuffs and pehaps Gegl with a whip ;)... too bad it would be going too far to make something like that a dev splash. --Alexia ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
In case the no name change policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for the new name: Perfect Image Manipulation Program It should fix all the problems :) On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, John B johnb...@gmail.com wrote: IMO this would be a valid reason for a name change. Has that ever been considered? Search the archives - this has been discussed to death... and there will be no name change. Chris ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- Jakub Friedl * Cygnis Insignis ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jakub Friedl kyk...@gmail.com wrote: In case the no name change policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for the new name: Perfect Image Manipulation Program It should fix all the problems :) Indeed! Lets make it one better. HomeOffice Perfect Image Manipulation Progam -- --Alexia ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:59:28AM +1030, David Gowers wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, vabijou2 vabi...@yahoo.com wrote: So just because some old farts in Scotland may have good associations with the word, you think that renders the rest of the English-speaking world's interpretation silly? %-| Personally, I think the question you just asks renders you silly (and arrogant) for presuming to speak for 'the rest of the English-speaking world'. This is an issue on which opinions *are* divided within 'the English-speaking world'. I personally have never seen the movie 'Pulp Fiction' on which the interpretation of GIMP as offensive seems to come, and while I agree that 'Pulp Fiction' is fairly famous, I believe it's rather America-centric to assume every English speaker holds that association. Yeah, for the rest of the world, GIMP is just an acronim (I'm italian) and a perfect one. please don't worry about the name... -- Marco Ciampa ++ | Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:22 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: This thread makes me want to draw Wilber in spandex and some cuffs and pehaps Gegl with a whip ;)... too bad it would be going too far to make something like that a dev splash. Why would that go too far? Please go ahead! regards, --mitch ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote: In case the no name change policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for the new name: Perfect Image Manipulation Program It should fix all the problems :) Can't wait for the next day comments after this name change, when some English-speaking peoples will request a new name change because PIMP will be offending for their part of the world, etc. :) (1. Perfect program ? I don't believe there is such thing.) (2. Being a non-English speaking person and with no need to consult the English wiktionary, for me GIMP is only a (fine) name like any other name.) (3. Weird thing happens when people have nothing to do.) Cristi -- Cristian Secară http://www.secarica.ro/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
Have you looked at the meanings of the word pimp? If no, you will really be surprised. On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote: In case the no name change policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for the new name: Perfect Image Manipulation Program It should fix all the problems :) With respect, Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
You've somehow missed the emoticon at the end of my post... But your reaction makes me want to officialy announce this name change exactly 154 days from now... :D 2009/10/29 Cristian Secară or...@secarica.ro On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote: In case the no name change policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for the new name: Perfect Image Manipulation Program It should fix all the problems :) Can't wait for the next day comments after this name change, when some English-speaking peoples will request a new name change because PIMP will be offending for their part of the world, etc. :) (1. Perfect program ? I don't believe there is such thing.) (2. Being a non-English speaking person and with no need to consult the English wiktionary, for me GIMP is only a (fine) name like any other name.) (3. Weird thing happens when people have nothing to do.) Cristi -- Cristian Secară http://www.secarica.ro/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- Jakub Friedl * Cygnis Insignis ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal
An idea (especially for when GIMP moves to GEGL). Apologies if this has been suggested/shot down before. I think that the following terminology would be fairly clear to users: Save IMAGE (basically, export to a non-xcf format) Save PROJECT (save the xcf/gegl tree) Save WORKSPACE (save the current configuration of GIMP, not the xcf/gegl tree or the image: visible tools, visible non image windows etc) IMHO, this 3-pronged save option makes it pretty clear what this is about. I suggested earlier that Save workspace (like nip2) should be the non-export quick save, but eventually realized that a workspace suggests a set of easily accessible tools organized to fit a specific TYPE of project. On the other hand, Save project' suggests that all the components of the intended final image should be kept around. Save image really suggests that what you are saving is the final product, in a common image format, that is, it corresponds to exporting. Nicolas Robidoux Universite Laurentienne ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Stephen Griffiths wrote: If the argument for keeping the name is seriously that the project branding is valuable, why don't we write that in the FAQ? Purely coincidentally it's been in the FAQ for years. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
2009/10/29 Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Have you looked at the meanings of the word pimp? If no, you will really be surprised. Just in case, irony has very little to do with iron and metals :) Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
Stephen Griffiths wrote: ... elision by Patrick The name GIMP is not so invaluable that it cannot be changed, also there is a massive number of outsiders who find the name truly unappealing, I do not hear the raw of the people saying they love the name. You can hear my raw here. I love the name. It appeals to me as a geek (I'm sure that you really hate THAT word, so much more fraught with ill-meaning than gimp), as an artist, and as an open source advocate. All of those things make me a bit of an outsider in the world, but an insider here. I think that the gimp is made for people like me, and we like the name. Inside any of those communities, the work GIMP means a hell of a good open source image editing program, and there ARE no negative connotations. It's just the way that we geeks find it amusing that there's another meaning of geek that would have us do strange to chickens. We know what we mean, and if outsiders don't get it, they'll either remain outsiders, or eventually become cool and THEN they'll get it. GIMP has panache. (N.B. I don't mean the meaning of panache that signifies a bunch of feathers or a plume on a helmet. I know some people get caught up in the idea that any possible definition of a word must be considered when communicating, but that's way too much trouble, and as someone earlier correctly suggested that I meant to say, silly.) Patrick ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:27 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote: Stephen Griffiths wrote: ... elision by Patrick The name GIMP is not so invaluable that it cannot be changed, also there is a massive number of outsiders who find the name truly unappealing, I do not hear the raw of the people saying they love the name. You can hear my raw here. I love the name. It appeals to me as a geek (I'm sure that you really hate THAT word, so much more fraught with ill-meaning than gimp) You are not making noise without being prompted. I didn't say I hated it (but there are those who do hate it), I just stated that it was not clever. Wordplay has for many years been considered the highest form of humour, it has only become less accepted as such in recent history. I still accept wordplay to be high humour, in this case I think GIMP is not very clever. there ARE no negative connotations. gimp and GIMP. UPPERCASE and lowercase. I doubt you needed that explained to you, but you did seem to play dumb there. We know what we mean Is it wrong that a language be used for communication between more than a small number of people? or eventually become cool Is that what people think when they look this way those guys are cool. 'Cool' is a social system only relevant in high-school. GIMP has panache. (N.B. I don't mean the meaning of panache that signifies a bunch of feathers or a plume on a helmet. I know some people get caught up in the idea that any possible definition of a word must be considered when communicating, but that's way too much trouble, and as someone earlier correctly suggested that I meant to say, silly.) I am glad you found some really sick definition of a word to make your point. My question is why didn't you just choose a simpler and more descriptive word, a word that would not require 4 lines of explanation to avoid confusion. You should attempt to communicate in a simpler manner, because it looks to me like this could have been said as You have a point of view, boo, that is stupid. well, till next time, Stephen. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp
I really mistook the what Patrick was saying here (of which he was kind enough to make me aware of privately), I apologise for reacting so quickly. I think I have already said what I meant to say in the first two posts and will take the time to bow out from any further participation. regards, Stephen. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
