Re: [Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 09:06:12PM +0200, Fabian Fridirick wrote: IMHO, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the user needs and MEDIA growth.(Imagine there'll be _only_ DVD distro by 2002 or so). What's the problem if Gimp comes with some more useful scripts ? I think the point is that plug-ins are unnecessary to the GIMp, and therefore shouldn't be distributed with it as source, or for that matter in distributions. There is nothing stopping people who distribute the gimp from (say) having a gimp package and a gimp-plugins package, and installing both by default. But the plug-ins probably don't belong in the same CVS module as the core. For example, no-one would argue that binutils shouldn't be distributed with the linux kernel (in a distribution), but they're not stored in the same place in source. The linux kernel is all but useless without userland apps (in most environments), yet the userland apps aren't maintained in the same place. Similarly, the gnome core and the gnome games aren't stored in the same module, and are of interest to different developers. The only thing I'm worrying about in plugin supply is the _physical_ layering in menus.Who cares it's an executable or a Perl script which does the stuffAll has to be presented in a transparent way... And the standard APIs that exist for plug-in programming will continue to exist, and may even get easier. Regards, Fabian Cheers, Dave. -- .--. / David Neary, \ | E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \ Phone +353-1-872-0654 / `--' ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
Ok, the GalleryMaker plug-in (www.dtlord.com/gallery) has been full-reviewed. Many thanks to all who helped me. If you still find any bug, don't hesitate to contact me. btw, I saw a plug-in registry in Gimp Homepage ; is it mandatory to register my plugin in order to reach Gimp core application ? Regards, Fabian www.dtlord.com/linux -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
Hi, Fabian Frédérick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: btw, I saw a plug-in registry in Gimp Homepage ; is it mandatory to register my plugin in order to reach Gimp core application ? registering your plug-in is a very good idea indeed since it allows other users to find it. Regarding the question to include it with core Gimp: As already discussed here several times, the plan is to distribute less plug-ins with the Gimp core package instead of adding new ones. Unfortunately we have not yet managed to find a suitable system to distribute plug-ins outside the core package. I'd like to bring up this discussion again now since I would like the new system to be in place for the upcoming 1.3.0 developers release if possible. The best plan we have come up with so far is to include only very few basic plug-ins with the core Gimp and add a number of extra plug-in packages that bundle plug-ins for special purposes. A few extra-large plug-ins could even be distributed as stand-alone packages. However this has to be discussed further... Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
Regarding the question to include it with core Gimp: As already discussed here several times, the plan is to distribute less plug-ins with the Gimp core package instead of adding new ones. IMHO, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the user needs and MEDIA growth.(Imagine there'll be _only_ DVD distro by 2002 or so). What's the problem if Gimp comes with some more useful scripts ? .btw, I don't think a lot of user will give a lot of time to download both untested unofficial plug-ins they could find in a rock-solid core appl. If Gimp is said so powerful it's just because it comes with an interesting panel of _features_ others don't give. The only thing I'm worrying about in plugin supply is the _physical_ layering in menus.Who cares it's an executable or a Perl script which does the stuffAll has to be presented in a transparent way... The best plan we have come up with so far is to include only very few basic plug-ins with the core Gimp and add a number of extra plug-in packages that bundle plug-ins for special purposes. A few extra-large plug-ins could even be distributed as stand-alone packages. However this has to be discussed further... That direction requires Gimp to enhance its policy (e.g. don't crush when a plug-in goes to hell). Regards, Fabian -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
On 19 May 2001, at 16:29, Sven Neumann wrote: Regarding the question to include it with core Gimp: As already discussed here several times, the plan is to distribute less plug-ins with the Gimp core package instead of adding new ones. Have you got a link to some of these discussions? I could not find them in the archive. The only thing I could find was a mention of a plug-in page at Source Forge: http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01150.html http://gimp-plug-ins.sourceforge.net/ -- branko collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [PLUGIN] Gallery Maker full reviewed
Fabian Frédérick wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Regarding the question to include it with core Gimp: As already discussed here several times, the plan is to distribute less plug-ins with the Gimp core package instead of adding new ones. IMHO, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the user needs and MEDIA growth.(Imagine there'll be _only_ DVD distro by 2002 or so). What's the problem if Gimp comes with some more useful scripts ? snipped PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS was introduced into the distribution on Tuesday, January 04, 2000; in the five hundred and two days since that date, of the 162 core plugins cited in that file, 52 have maintainers. By this metric, only thirty-two percent of the core plug-ins are supported. Did someone suggest adding plug-ins to the core distribution? It appears that on this date, there are not sufficient numbers in the ranks of Gimp contributors to support the plug-ins that already distribute with the core; this alone, I think, lends necessary and sufficient weight to the idea that the number of plug-ins that fall in the arena of core support ought to be that minimum to make a functional, but not full-featured core package. This still begs the question of how the delta of plug-ins between the functional and full featured gimp are to be deployed, (and maintained!). There has not been a mailing-list discussion on this issue in almost a year; likely there are many newer readers who are not even aware of the problem of plug-in support and maintenance. Be good, be well Garry ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
