Re: [Gimp-developer] Usage of icons from GIMP

2006-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a potential problem coming up, though. I might not release the
 source code of this program. As I understand it, for the icons
 borrowed from GTK+ this poses no problem, because of its LGPL
 licensing. GIMP, however, is licensed under the GPL.

The stock icons are in libgimpwidgets which is released as LGPL. But
you are wrong to assume that being part of a library that is released
under the terms of the LGPL would allow you include the icons in your
closed-source software. The LGPL allows you to link your application
against the library, it doesn't give you the right to reuse parts of
the library. So I am afraid to tell you that you may not use any of
these icons unless you do so by linking to the respective libraries
and allowing your customers to relink the application to other
versions of gtk+ and libgimpwidgets.


Sven
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[Gimp-developer] Usage of icons from GIMP

2006-02-18 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
Hello,

I'm writing a painting program in Java for digital artists with
network functionality and I'm borrowing icons from GTK+ and GIMP in my
GUI. It's looking great! :-) Here's a screenshot:

http://thor.artgrounds.com/home.php?action=viewid=4157

I have a potential problem coming up, though. I might not release the
source code of this program. As I understand it, for the icons
borrowed from GTK+ this poses no problem, because of its LGPL
licensing. GIMP, however, is licensed under the GPL.

I'd like to know if the icons in GIMP are under the same license
restrictions as the rest of the software. There's no such thing as
source code for images. How can GPL be applied to the visual theme of
a GUI?

To make a long story short: Can I use your icons?
--
Thor
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Usage of icons from GIMP

2006-02-18 Thread Stephane Chauveau
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:25:07 +0100
Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm writing a painting program in Java for digital artists with
 network functionality and I'm borrowing icons from GTK+ and GIMP in my
 GUI. It's looking great! :-) Here's a screenshot:
 
 http://thor.artgrounds.com/home.php?action=viewid=4157
 
 I have a potential problem coming up, though. I might not release the
 source code of this program. As I understand it, for the icons
 borrowed from GTK+ this poses no problem, because of its LGPL
 licensing. GIMP, however, is licensed under the GPL.
 
 I'd like to know if the icons in GIMP are under the same license
 restrictions as the rest of the software. There's no such thing as
 source code for images. How can GPL be applied to the visual theme of
 a GUI?

I am not an expert in licences but here is how the GPL 
defines 'source code':

   The source code for a work means the preferred form of the 
   work for making modifications to it.

That has nothing to be with being a text file so my understanding 
is that images are also 'source code'. 

For images coming from a LGPL project, the solution is simple.
You project should be able to use them as long as they are not 
statically linked in the program. 
Do not forget that you should NOT REMOVE THE LGPL licence.
The safest way to do it is to distribute your program and 
the LGPL icons in 2 different packages.  
  
The situation is more complex for the GPL because GPLed codes 
cannot be mixed with  non-GPL codes even if their are not 
statically linked together.
The only escape I can see is that the non-GPL/GPL clause is not 
applicable to the data used by the application so that would be 
ok to reuse icons if they are considered as input data for you 
application. 
But once again, you would have to distribute the icons under the GPL. 

 
ps: I am not an official member of the GIMP team so the opinions
expressed in that email are not official.
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