Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:00:51 +0100, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So far there are 5 propositions in various stages of development,
 each of which has some + points and some - points.
 1) GUADEC
 2) Lyon
 3) London
 4) Dublin
 5) Chemnitz
 
 Are there others? We need volunteers. 

I could also mention FOSDEM (Free  Open Source Software Developers'
European Meeting) in Brussels.  The 4th edition will take place on the
21st and 22nd of February 2004.  Some GIMP people have been there in
the previous years, such as jimmac giving some great demos (as usual)
and he will do it again for the 2004 edition.

Plus:
- Brussels is easy to access by train or plane.  FOSDEM is organized
  on the university campus, which is well served by bus, subway, etc.
- It should not be too difficult to reserve a room for the GIMP
  developers.  Network access and other facilities will be available.
- Although we would have to organize the accomodations, the FOSDEM
  site lists several decent youth hostels that should be suitable.

Minus:
- Not much time between now and the end of February.  And I don't
  think that they would shift FOSDEM to June only for us.  ;-)
- Only two days (Saturday and Sunday).  It may be difficult to extend
  our meeting before or after that week-end because most of the rooms
  will be booked for courses.  Although from my point of view, two
  days for gimpcon2004 would be enough so I wouldn't have to take
  days off of work (except for recovering, maybe).
- May be a bit crowded.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi,

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 12:00, David Neary wrote:
 I want to start a new thread to get this discussion (which I
 consider important) back on track.

Good idea.

 LOCATION
 
 So far there are 5 propositions in various stages of development,
 each of which has some + points and some - points.
 1) GUADEC
 2) Lyon
 3) London
 4) Dublin
 5) Chemnitz
 
 Are there others? We need volunteers. 

Personally I think it would be best to piggy-back on an existing event
given that the organizers wouldn't mind, of course. This would give us
the benefit of an existing infrastructure.

 FACILITIES
 
 What facilities do we need? I've been working (in my head) with
 figures of 20-30 people, needing fairly liberal access to
 conference facilities and computer network, preferably staying
 with LUGgers, but perhaps in a hotel.

20-30 people sounds right to me. We need a conference room or similar
(the GimpTent at GIMPCon 2003 wasn't exactly a conference room, but it
filled our need perfectly) and access to the internet. Of course we need
a place/places to sleep as well, but anything from a tent to a hotel
would fit this need.

 MONEY
 
 Who will manage the money side of things? We need someone who is
 good with numbers, to organise a few people to do fundraising.

It would be ideal if The GIMP Foundation was a reality when we start the
fund-raising. We could then use the conference to evaluate the steps
taken to raise funds - and perhaps improve the process. 

 DATE
 
 When is the earliest we could meet? When's the latest reasonable
 date? I like late June, I think June/July/August is our target
 area. Any comments?

I agree. I would say late June, July or early August.

Sincerely,
./Brix
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread David Neary
Hi Henrik, 

thanks for the feedback.

Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
  LOCATION
 
 Personally I think it would be best to piggy-back on an existing event
 given that the organizers wouldn't mind, of course. This would give us
 the benefit of an existing infrastructure.

In this case, what IT events do people know of in the timescale
we're looking at? GUADEC obviously fits, the Chemnitz event is a
little early for my tastes, but is certainly an option. What
other events are there that people know about?

  MONEY
  
  Who will manage the money side of things? We need someone who is
  good with numbers, to organise a few people to do fundraising.
 
 It would be ideal if The GIMP Foundation was a reality when we start the
 fund-raising. We could then use the conference to evaluate the steps
 taken to raise funds - and perhaps improve the process. 

I don't think we can rely on the foundation existing in time. And
even if we did, the foundation would need a treasurer to be the
person In Charge. In either case, we need someone to say they'll
take responsibility for money. It might well be reasonable that
that person then become the treasurer of the foundation.

Are there any candidates? Personally I think it would be a good
idea to separate the organisation of physical structures from
fundraising - they're 2 very different jobs, and teach represents
a considerable workload. If one person does both, he's likely to
be overloaded with work.

Cheers,
Dave.

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   Lyon, France
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread Branko Collin
On 21 Nov 2003, at 12:00, David Neary wrote:

 I want to start a new thread to get this discussion (which I
 consider important) back on track.
 
 LOCATION
 
 So far there are 5 propositions in various stages of development, each
 of which has some + points and some - points. 1) GUADEC 2) Lyon 3)
 London 4) Dublin 5) Chemnitz
 
 Are there others? We need volunteers. 

Sven suggested (IIRC), Hacking Extreme http://www.hex2005.org, the 
follow-up event to Hackers At Large in 2001, but that is of course 
still more than one and a half year away. The advantage, from what I 
understood, and IIRC, was that it tied into a networked camping 
event.
 
 FACILITIES
 
 What facilities do we need? I've been working (in my head) with
 figures of 20-30 people, needing fairly liberal access to
 conference facilities and computer network, preferably staying
 with LUGgers, but perhaps in a hotel.

I did not mind the camping thing, which is an option as long as it's 
not too cold.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In this case, what IT events do people know of in the timescale
 we're looking at? GUADEC obviously fits, the Chemnitz event is a
 little early for my tastes, but is certainly an option. What other
 events are there that people know about?

Well, there will probably be LinuxTag again (www.linuxtag.org). It
usually takes place in Juli but it's more of a trade fair and thus
probably not that well suited. I also think that it would be boring to
have the conference in Germany again.

I expect that 2004 will see another Hackmeeting but the webpage
doesn't mention a date nor a place yet:
http://www.hackmeeting.org/2003/history_en
Perhaps someone knows more about the plans for 2004. I heard a lot of
good things about past Hackmeetings and it would probably fit well.

Then, there seems to be a vague plan for a HackSchiff in 2004:
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9900470/cngwiki/wiki.cgi?HackSchiff2004EN
The planned route would probably take a few weeks so that would give
us enough time for some decent hacking and chatting ;)


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon 2004 (follow-up)

2003-11-21 Thread David Neary
Hi,

Sven Neumann wrote:
 I expect that 2004 will see another Hackmeeting but the webpage
 doesn't mention a date nor a place yet:
 http://www.hackmeeting.org/2003/history_en
 Perhaps someone knows more about the plans for 2004. I heard a lot of
 good things about past Hackmeetings and it would probably fit well.

Sounds like a definite possibility.

 Then, there seems to be a vague plan for a HackSchiff in 2004:
 http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9900470/cngwiki/wiki.cgi?HackSchiff2004EN
 The planned route would probably take a few weeks so that would give
 us enough time for some decent hacking and chatting ;)

I can't speak for others, but there would be no chance of me
taking 3 weeks on a ship this year. Add the cost, and the time to
get to Hamburg and from Italy, and I'm voting against this :)

Nice idea, though... wish I were still young  happygolucky.

Cheers,
Dave.

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   Lyon, France
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