Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP icon stolen by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store

2011-01-20 Thread gg
On 01/19/11 23:15, Ilgaz Öcal wrote:
 Hello,

 After spending some time on IRC, I decided this is the best way to
 report it. I noticed Nokia Ovi Store (an app store) carries a software
 named SnapMe which is clearly not GPL using GIMP application icon. You
 should be able to see when you click on following link:
 http://store.ovi.com/search?q=SnapMe

 I did my best to report (c) violation to Nokia but from what I hear,
 their staff is way overloaded. Actual way to report it is at article 7
 of following document which requires you to be the actual copyright
 owner of the image.
 http://store.ovi.com/legal/terms
 7. Allegations of Copyright Infringement

 You may notify Nokia of copyright infringement on the Service by
 providing notice (a) by email with “Copyright Notification” in the
 subject line to copyright.noti...@nokia.com, (b) by a document titled
 “Copyright Notification” mailed to Nokia, Attn: Copyright Agent, 102
 Corporate Park Drive, White Plains, NY 10604, USA or (c) via the online
 form, if available. Your notice must:

 (1) identify the original copyrighted work you claim is infringed;
 (2) identify the content on the Service that you claim is infringing the
 copyrighted work. Please provide enough detail for Nokia to locate the
 allegedly infringing content on the Service;
 (3) provide your contact information, including your full name, mailing
 address, telephone number, and email address, if available;
 (4) provide a statement that you have a good faith belief that the use
 of the content in the manner complained of is not authorized by the
 copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
 (5) provide this statement: I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the
 information in this notification and complaint is accurate and that I am
 the copyright owner, or am authorized to act on behalf of the copyright
 owner of an exclusive right that is infringed.; and
 (6) provide your signature, as applicable.

What a joke! It is not for Nokia to impose stringent conditions on those 
who wish to notify them of possible illegal content in their products. 
It is their responsibility to ensure they are not breaking the law.

You do not need to be the copyright holder to inform them you believe 
they are breaking the law.

If you want to act on this , just send them a written letter by a signed 
for mail service to one of there corporate offices.

I would strongly advise against any sworn statement and suggest you 
couch everything in conditional disclaimers like it appears that , I 
believe that etc. so that they can't accuse you of anything.

BTW the logo has not been stolen , gimp.org is still in possession of 
it and still using it. Theft implies dispossessing someone of a physical 
object. Making a copy does not deprive the rightful owner of possession. 
Copyright infringement is a civil offence not to be assimilated with 
theft which is a criminal act.

The logo has not been stolen , neither were the climategate emails 
stolen. That just stupid tabloid newpaper language.

/gg



 So as I know copyright issues should be taken serious, especially by GPL
 software, I thought I better report it this way.

 Sorry for off topic message, if it is...

 Ilgaz Ocal
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Possible Future of ScriptFu/TinyFu with R6RS/Racket

2011-01-20 Thread Michael Natterer
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 19:59 -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 22:39 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 [...]
  Martin wants to change the Undo system using the Command Pattern (see
  comment 43 of the above report, and
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_Pattern for an explanation of this
  pattern).
 
 It's a good architecture - I've used a scheme-scriptable editor once
 before that had this pattern (before they were called patterns) along
 with MVC, and along with scheme access to the menus, keypress events
 etc., and it turned out to be very powerful.
 
 (when I brought it up in IRC some time ago there didn't seem to be much
 support, though, so I am not sure there's agreement on it yet)

I discussed this with Martin, and the outcome was to have a command
layer around the core, and not make it a 1:1 match of undo operations,
because undos are very atomic operation, whereas commands rather
correspond to undo groups of arbitrary complexity.

So there will be a connection between the two, but they can't
be merged the way Michael's last mail suggests.

ciao,
--Mitch


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[Gimp-developer] GEGL 0.1.4 and babl 0.1.4

2011-01-20 Thread Øyvind Kolås
GEGL (Generic Graphics Library) is a graph based image processing framework.

GEGL provides a graph based API and framework to do demand driven, cached, non
destructive image editing of larger than RAM images. Through babl it provides
support for a wide range of color models and pixel storage formats for input
and output.

To build gegl-0.1.4 you will also need babl-0.1.4

Changes in this release:

 • Operations:
 save (chooses delegate save op automatically)
 rgbe load/save
 jpeg200 load/save
 ppm load/save
 map-absolute (GIMP cage tool gsoc helper op)
 whirl and pinch
 mirrors
 grid render
 fixed imagemagick fallback load op
 fixed pipe based dcraw wrapper
 GSoC 2010 ops: exp-combine, reinhard05, fattal02, mantiuk06, matting-levin
 • Various source and build improvements.
 • improvements towards threaded rendering
 • Buffer:
 refactored away some constant overhead
 made GeglBufferIterator API public

This release of GEGL was made possible by contributions from:

Michael Natterer, Øyvind Kolås, Vincent Untz, Kaja Liiv, Nils
Philippsen, Étienne Bersac, Martin Nordholts, Debarshi Ray, Danny
Robson, Stuart Axon, Kao, Mukund Sivaraman, Ruben Vermeersch, Barak
Itkin, Michael Muré, Mikael Magnusson, Patrick Horgan and Andy Gill.


Where to get GEGL:

The latest versions of GEGL and it's hard dependencies babl and glib can be
fetched from:

ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/babl/0.1/babl-0.1.4.tar.bz2
ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gegl/0.1/gegl-0.1.4.tar.bz2
ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/2.20/glib-2.20.5.tar.bz2

The integrity of the tarballs can be verified with:

sha1sum *.bz2
1abe98b11e67737b6f74d6993d45046eec93bcda  babl-0.1.4.tar.bz2
dcb437205850e598a48e314add68b13cd26f542c  gegl-0.1.4.tar.bz2
19e2b2684d7bc35a73ff94eb7fd15fc70cc6f292  glib-2.20.5.tar.bz2

Where to get more information about GEGL

More information about GEGL can be found at the GEGL website, or by
joining #gegl or #gimp on the irc network GIMPnet.

/Øyvind Kolås
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Possible Future of ScriptFu/TinyFu with R6RS/Racket

2011-01-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 15:10 +0100, Michael Natterer wrote:
 I discussed this with Martin, and the outcome was to have a command
 layer around the core, and not make it a 1:1 match of undo operations,
 because undos are very atomic operation, whereas commands rather
 correspond to undo groups of arbitrary complexity.

In Author/Editor we had command groups, so that one command might have a
whole sequence of sub-commands but make a single entry in the undo/redo
history. The handler chain got to see the outer command as well as the
sequence of inner commands, of course.

Liam


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP icon quot; stolenquot; by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store

2011-01-20 Thread Ilgaz Ocal
 gg at catking.net writes:

   On 01/19/11 23:15, Ilgaz Öcal wrote:   Hello, After
 spending some time on IRC, I decided this is the best way to   report
 it. I noticed Nokia Ovi Store (an app store) carries a software  
 named SnapMe which is clearly not GPL using GIMP application icon.
 You   should be able to see when you click on following link:  
 http://store.ovi.com/search?q=SnapMe I did my best to report
 (c) violation to Nokia but from what I hear,   their staff is way
 overloaded. Actual way to report it is at article 7   of following
 document which requires you to be the actual copyright   owner of the
 image. snip   What a joke! It is not for Nokia to impose stringent
 conditions on those  who wish to notify them of possible illegal
 content in their products.  It is their responsibility to ensure they
 are not breaking the law.

 You can ask 300 million Symbian users and ex-Symbian users about their
 jokes but it doesn't change they stupidly created that policy
 preventing me from reporting it in an official way that will be
 archived on their systems and legally bind them.

   You do not need to be the copyright holder to inform them you
 believe  they are breaking the law.   If you want to act on this ,
 just send them a written letter by a signed  for mail service to one
 of there corporate offices.   I would strongly advise against any
 sworn statement and suggest you  couch everything in conditional
 disclaimers like it appears that , I  believe that etc. so that
 they can't accuse you of anything.   BTW the logo has not been
 stolen , gimp.org is still in possession of  it and still using it.
 Theft implies dispossessing someone of a physical  object. Making a
 copy does not deprive the rightful owner of possession.  Copyright
 infringement is a civil offence not to be assimilated with  theft
 which is a criminal act. Yes, I couldn't find correct word for it and
 my purpose of posting that message to developer list of an application
 which I can't even build (because of arch issues) to send an heads up
 to GIMP project developers, who really owns it. So, that is why I
 used the  sign.

   The logo has not been stolen , neither were the climategate emails
  stolen. That just stupid tabloid newpaper language.

 While posting the message, I had a feeling that it is slightly off
 topic. What gave me the reason is actually GIMP doesn't have (or I
 couldn't find) a dedicated page to report license issues like Mozilla
 folks have. On the other hand, as you see I am posting with my real
 name, not /IO, I am not a native english speaker. It is persons like
 you who really manages to make people afraid of sending any feedback,
 positive or negative. This is not a copyright matters forum or English
 lecture class. I have no reason to debate whether I am posting in the
 right terms or if I, as a foreigner who speaks english as a second
 language uses Tabloid language.

 Message purpose to reach GIMP developers about this very shameful act
 by a developer who sure knows what GIMP is (Symbian isn't a toy to
 code) and let them contact Nokia as our feedback would likely be lost
 in thousands of my app is bwoken kind of messages.

 I was expecting some kind of off topic flame but not this. It is
 really interesting that only absolute offtopic message with flaming the
 messenger for the choice of words happens on this particular open
 source projects mailing list.

 I got my lesson second time for attempting to help an open source
 project in a positive manner.

   /ggSo as I know copyright issues should be taken serious,
 especially by GPL   software, I thought I better report it this way.
 Sorry for off topic message, if it is...


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP icon quot; stolenquot; by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store

2011-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/21/2011 06:37 AM, Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
   I got my lesson second time for attempting to help an open source
   project in a positive manner.

Hi Ilgaz

Don't take one unfriendly reply from an arbitrary person as a 
representative reply from everyone. There are many of us that appreciate 
that you want to help us out. Thank you for that.

Regards,
Martin


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