Re: [Gimp-docs] Open Help Conference
Hi Shaun, On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:34:38PM -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: I'm organizing the Open Help Conference this June. It's a gathering of documentation and support people from various open source and community projects. There are already participants who contribute to projects like Firefox, GNOME, and Ubuntu. [...] I think we'd all be interested in hearing about how you manage all the help that comes with the GIMP, and how you handle help for plugins and such. Would any GIMP docs people be able to make it? Cheers for the invitation. I would like to go, but need the few holidays I can get. I'm currently in Australia and won't be able to make it. I hope someone else would be able to go? Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] wrong commit comment
Hi Ulf, On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 06:39:35PM +0100, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: Vitaly Lomov (Saturday, 19. March 2011) Hi, Is it possible to change the commit comment after 'git push'? I had it right, but noticed that my username was wrong, did 'git commit --amend', but it didn't do what I expected, so I committed with the wrong comment. Vitaly It looks like it's possible, see Rewriting a single commit in the Git User’s Manual: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user- manual.html#rewriting-one-commit Make sure that you have an excellent excuse if you mess up the repository... ;-) Are you sure that this works on a pushed commit? All I can see in this instruction is that you work on your local checkout, without having pushed your commits. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] wrong commit comment
Hi Vitaly, On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 06:25:14AM -0700, Vitaly Lomov wrote: Is it possible to change the commit comment after 'git push'? Not that I know of. I had it right, but noticed that my username was wrong, did 'git commit --amend', but it didn't do what I expected, so I committed with the wrong comment. IMHO you can also change the username and e-mail, but not with git commit --amend. See: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/750172/how-do-i-change-the-author-of-a-commit-in-git Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] Starting help for gimp-2.8
Hi Julien, On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 07:07:00AM +0100, Julien Hardelin wrote: For that, we need: - a separated git module for gimp-help-2.8, containing a copy of the present gimp-help-2 at first. - a gimp-doc-wiki(like the old we had) with the list of features that must be updated, and the possibility of knowing who works on what. Perhaps for this, the developers wouldn't mind if the documentation team could use the wiki as well? I could perhaps ask on the developer mailing list for this opportunity... Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] nightly updates on docs.gimp.org
Hi Marco, On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:47:19PM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 09:07:58PM +1000, Roman Joost wrote: Any suggestions welcome! Please provide a timestamp or two (one for build one for the sync process) somewhere on the site, just to check the correct updating process of the buildbot ... I could touch a small file, write the date and perhaps processing time into it and sync it too. Would that do? Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] some docs fixes
Hi Jan, On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 01:59:07AM +0100, Miroslav Šulc wrote: Hi Roman, Does the GIMP documentation project have a style guide such as the excellent GNOME Documentation Style Guide? http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/2.32/index.html.en well, maybe gimp documentation team should use that guide instead of creating its own :-) Yes. Afaik - we don't have one on our own, but use the guide lines from the GNOME documentation project like the one you've found. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] some docs fixes
Hi Marco, On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 02:10:12PM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:12:35PM +0100, Miroslav Šulc wrote: Dne 18.12.2010 08:22, Roman Joost napsal(a): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization http://jon.henshaw.me/rules-for-capitalization-in-a-title/ Cheers for clarifying. I never bothered to look around actually. Cheers -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] some docs fixes
Hi Ulf, On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:14:57PM +0100, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: BTW: What do the official rules say? As far as I know: Starting with uppercase, continuing with lowercase - as usual. Although I have to admit, that I'm not 100% sure about that. The English native speakers I've talked to weren't that sure either. Perhaps it's about consistancy ... Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective
Hi Ulf, On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:51:03PM +0100, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: (1) Compact layout. This is mostly a matter of the chosen style(sheet): We (you?) could create an alternate stylesheet , e.g. compact.css (starting with a copy of gimp-help-screen.css) and change text layout etc. according to your suggestions. (And we can make it the default stylesheet at any time.) BTW, the HTML pages read gimp-help-custom.css if this stylesheet exists (by default it does not), so that's a good place to apply and test your changes in the real world. Just keep in mind with those changes, that the GIMP Help browser uses almost the same stylesheets. Perhaps it is not the desirable goal to have a compact layout for the user who downloaded the manual or uses the help browser to browse the manual. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] Revamp of docs.gimp.org
Hi Byung-Hee, On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:58:37AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: I have two service machines, which are running FreeBSD. Well i have no skills in operating for gimp docs services. Though i would be offer one of them for gimp project after discussions. Any comments? Thanks for the offer. Sounds good to get our release published temporary until the docs services moved from the current machine to the new server. How we go from here? In first, by the way, i think you(we) should contact docs.gimp.org[graft.xcf.berkeley.edu]'s maintainer. Then, discuss. As far as i know, the man is Manish Singh man...@xcf.berkeley.edu. Yosh is already on it to get docs.gimp.org back to work as far as I know. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] I want to be a member to translate Gimp-docs
Hi 严晶涛 On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:40:59PM +0800, 严晶涛 wrote: I want to translate Gimp-docs to Chinese,maybe my English is bad,I'll do my best to translate it;and I'll get help with my classmate. How can I do? Welcome to the list! Have you had a look at the source code yet? Have you had any experience translating or internationalising software perhaps? If not - don't worry. You'll have to learn a few things to get started. A good start is to get a copy of the repository: git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp-help-2 Cheers -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] GIMP's manual in arabic
Hi Alexander, On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:46:14AM +0100, Alexander Zack Malcolmson wrote: All that is required is to add the following attributes to the main html tag during the build process: xml:lang=ar lang=ar dir=rtl which basically provoke arabic language support in html rendering engines. Because the HTML is transformed by using the XSL stylesheets, we probably have to have a look at DocBook to set a parameter/option which finally results in an HTML file with this information. I haven't had a look at DocBook so far, but I bet the change is easy. Cheers -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] GIMP's manual in arabic
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:44:09AM +0100, Alexander Zack Malcolmson wrote: Sorry forgot to ask about the gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU mailing list: Is it better if I copy in (cc) all my email concerning this issue to the mailing list? I think in general this discussion should happen on the mailing list :) Cheers -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] where are the pdf snapshots?
Hi Ulf, On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:52:58PM +0200, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: Roman Joost (Wednesday, 02. June 2010) As far as I know, the PDF creation is b0rked after we moved to gettext support. We have to fix that first in order to create PDFs again. But I could be possibly wrong and Ulf knows more about this issue. It seems that building a Russian PDF is broken (I think it's a dblatex problem and has nothing to do with gettext). But making a German PDF worked fine. Yes indeed as Marco already pointed out too. Awesome!!! So maybe you should just try to build PDFs for some languages and see what happens... I've now prepared PDFs, but there is not enough hard disk space left on wilber :( I've to talk to Sven what to do. Alternatively do we still need to provide the PDFs for GIMP 2.2? Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] where are the pdf snapshots?
Hi Marco, On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:50:12PM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: Thanks to the Ulf wonderful work, now the entire bulding process work flawlessly (as far as I can see) and I'll try even to automate it. I would have loved to install a buildbot on wilber, which creates nightly builds of the user manual (and other formats). Unfortunately wilber doesn't provide enough resources to do that :( If you need a hand to do the same on the reference site, I'll be glad to help. Thanks!!! Another idea is that it could be nice if the docs site could be internationalized... that will be wonderfull and, obviously, I am here to help for the italian translation. I thought we started that. The website is in the gimp-help-2 module under web. Translating it shouldn't be difficult. We already have all the stuff needed to translate the XML. See my reply to Ulf about the update of PDFs. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
[Gimp-docs] Most annoying thing
Hi, I've just browsed a bit in the archives and remembered, that I was asking what the most annoying thing while editing the manual was for every author: https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-docs/2008-February/001091.html Almost everyone thought the languages mixed up in one XML were very annoying. This has now changed with a big effort (thanks for Ulf for his time investing in supporting programs). Now two years later: What is now the most annoying thing? The most annoying thing for me is, that I can't spend as much time on the project as I would like to spend. I haven't made any contributions to the manual for a while, also due to the fact that I'm just lost in the current editing process. The wiki is down and doesn't seem to return anymore. Maybe a better space to invite potential contributors would be to open a space on the GNOME wiki. I'm also watching the development of Mallard closely: http://projectmallard.org/ maybe something which we could benefit from. Anyways. I'm still following the mailing list and try to help as much as I can! Thanks for the good work! Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs