Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-gap: From Still-Images to an avi-file?
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:11:38PM +0200, Al Bogner wrote: I have a lot of stillimages from a digicam and want to make a movie like this: http://pinguin.uni.cc/jerking_flickering_xvid.avi The quality of this avi-file is not perfect, so I am searching for a way to do it better. If you look at the motion, it is not a quiet motion, it is jerking a little bit. If the file is encoded to a DVD with transcode it is flickering, probably an interlace-problem, although it is interlaced encoded. My question is: can something like this short test-avi be done with gimp-gap? I am not happy with image2raw and I think stills2dv is not my 1st choice too. I have installed gimp-gap on my Etch-Linux-system, but there are problems with my xanim-version http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/x/xanim/xanim_2.80.1-14_i386.deb (Ea, Ee, Eq not supported) So, if you tell me, that I can't do what I want with gimp-gap I don't have to spent time, why gimp-gap doesn't work, otherwise I would be happy to get a few hints how I would do this with gimp-gap. i will be honest, i did not look at the avi you showed here. gap can do most things to a stack of images that gimp can do with just a single image. what gap uses xanim for is for breaking the single video file into separate frame images. then, it might use xanim to put them back together -- it has been a while since i had gap and xanim installed together. the xanim that gap wants is seriously broken. when it creates single images from the one video file, it makes them without the blue channel. mplayer is another option to build gap against. it works better and correctly. once installed and gap recognizes it, you get more options in the Xtns menu where the fun with gap starts. when i first started to play with single images, there were so many picky little rules, like png cannot handle layers or offset. indexed images can not be jpegs -- stuff like this which today seeems easy. video manipulation has millions of these same sorts of picky rules. from the size of the frames to how to set the timing when you re-encode it. getting mplayer installed is only a small part of the bigger task. that being said, it sure was fun to play with gap. the same way it was fun to play with gimp the first time all those years ago. gap needs mplayer and disc space. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-gap: From Still-Images to an avi-file?
Am Samstag, 13. August 2005 19:34 schrieb Carol Spears: On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:11:38PM +0200, Al Bogner wrote: I have a lot of stillimages from a digicam and want to make a movie like this: http://pinguin.uni.cc/jerking_flickering_xvid.avi So, if you tell me, that I can't do what I want with gimp-gap I don't have to spent time, why gimp-gap doesn't work, otherwise I would be happy to get a few hints how I would do this with gimp-gap. i will be honest, i did not look at the avi you showed here. gap can do most things to a stack of images that gimp can do with just a single image. Hi Carol, first I want to say, your webpage helped me a lot, but I didn't find the answers I am looking for. My video lasts 14 sec (6.4 MB), so maybe you could have a look at it. It is a lot eaiser to talk about my wishes and problems. what gap uses xanim for is for breaking the single video file into separate frame images. I don't need xanim to split the video, because I have the stillimages already and with the ImageMagick-suite I can create a lot of formats. then, it might use xanim to put them back together -- it has been a while since i had gap and xanim installed together. That is the key-question. I need a tool which does perfect rendering, when transitions are created or the motion of the still images is rendered. mplayer is another option to build gap against. it works better and correctly. once installed and gap recognizes it, you get more options in the Xtns menu where the fun with gap starts. As mentioned, I use Debian and would like to use built deb-packages. Mplayer is installed, but it is not recognized by gimg-gap. There are so much troubles with dependencies of multimedia-packages. I stopped compiling it myself. One thing works then and the other doesn't anymore. I use the packages from Marilliat most times. when i first started to play with single images, there were so many picky little rules, like png cannot handle layers or offset. indexed images can not be jpegs -- stuff like this which today seeems easy. video manipulation has millions of these same sorts of picky rules. from the size of the frames to how to set the timing when you re-encode it. Which format do you recommend for still-images? getting mplayer installed is only a small part of the bigger task. Oh yes, and the mplayer-installation can make a lot of troubles. that being said, it sure was fun to play with gap. the same way it was fun to play with gimp the first time all those years ago. gap needs mplayer and disc space. Diskspace shouldn't be the problem. I can use transcode or/and the mjpegtools for encoding, but I need a good solution for rendering. So if you have suggestions with other tools than gimp, please let me know. Al ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-gap: From Still-Images to an avi-file?
On 8/13/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:11:38PM +0200, Al Bogner wrote: I have a lot of stillimages from a digicam and want to make a movie like this: My question is: can something like this short test-avi be done with gimp-gap? I am not happy with image2raw and I think stills2dv is not my 1st Yes, but only if configured properly. It may be easier to simply use a different program. I highly suggest you build MPlayer with support for the images you're reading, and then use mencoder to create the AVIs. Read the MPlayer man page for details. The example is near the bottom, it uses jpegs, but can be adapted to use pngs. BTW, ? wildcards (in addition to * wildcards) work with mencoder -- at least on my system they do. But I built my own mplayer, and downloaded every single dev package for still file formats I could find (libpng-dev, liblzo-dev, etc...). And I run Debian (unstable/testing). *shrugs* -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-gap: From Still-Images to an avi-file?
On Saturday 13 August 2005 20:35, Al Bogner wrote: That is the key-question. I need a tool which does perfect rendering, when transitions are created or the motion of the still images is rendered. have you seen cinelerra ? http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3, it's something i'm looking into but i need a differnt video card first. sammi ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-gap: From Still-Images to an avi-file?
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 06:51:13PM +0100, sam ende wrote: On Saturday 13 August 2005 18:34, Carol Spears wrote: gap can do most things to a stack of images that gimp can do with just a single image. but can it make .avi files ?, i think it can't but would be pleased to hear otherwise/differnt. yes it can make avi. in fact, once you have some of the supporting software installed, making avi is the default action of the encoder, for other formats, the encoding options need to be changed. what gap uses xanim for is for breaking the single video file into separate frame images. then, it might use xanim to put them back together -- it has been a while since i had gap and xanim installed together. you know i have a big problem with that as in cannot figure out how to load the movie files into gimp to break down, do you know how that is done ? Xtns --Split Video to Frames --Extract Videorange is the nicest gui. there have been a few occasions when this failed and Xtns --Split Video to Frames --MPlayer based extract worked. you show the dialog to the file and tell it where to start extracting and where to put the frames it makes. i have a web page about this some where carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] New to list--curious about progress of 'Resources'
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 04:39:09PM -0700, Michael Soibelman wrote: I've been watching the (Gimp)web site for some time. Is there some realistic date when we can expect to see the 'Resources' section updated?? It says: Soon, you will be able to download additional brushes, patterns, gradients and other useful files contributed by some GIMP users and developers. Please be patient while we organize this section of the site. I've been reading that for a long time now and am wondering when this might happen. Many new versions of Gimp have been introduced in the mean time. Though it most certainly is nice to have new improved core functionality, for persons using the Gimp, plug-ins and resources such as brushes, patterns and gradients are immediately usefull and utilized !! Thanks for any information regarding this and for those who are working on this I do appreciate all the work you are doing !! we have been talking about running another splash contest for the first two weeks in September. the problem with this is that the timing has more to do with birthdays than it does with an important release (like something more than a 2.3.version). after the splash, running some littler week long image collections -- not exactly contests i took a break from whatever i was doing and made a script that picks a resource from several different catagories every day. it would be nice if there could be a web page for each resource showing it in use. it might also help to clear some of the more useless of the resources out. here is the resource a day page my script makes: http://carol.gimp.org/blog.html it is ugly and stupid and was fun to put together. the pattern of the day is not viewable via internet explorer either, a design flaw. maybe it would be fun to put the contest back up to collect images that show the different resources in action and skip the splash 'test until it looks like a real release is inevitable or whatever they call it. carol /ramble ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
