Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp development
Von: Matt Gushee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:11:59PM -0500, Paul Bloch wrote: I'm an occasional Gimp user and prefessional graphic designer. I was wondering where and how do I get involved with user-interface development. Have you seen the GIMP project on OpenUsability.org? That might be a good place to start. The URL is: http://openusability.org/projects/gimp Make sure that your read the past discussion there - some are good examples of how not to start a discussion there. The current thread about the tabbed interface is taking a nice and IMO correct direction, though. HTH, Michael -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! Feel free mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop
Brendan wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 05:46, Manish Singh wrote: Gimpshop slaps the people who know the code of gimp in the face, and then expects gimp.org to take up the slack because they don't know how to properly support a community. I don't see why the animosity is so surprising. Because Gimshop has generated more excitement than the Gimp ever has and certain people might be a little ruffled? Who are you kidding? Why don't you simply take your trolling elsewhere. I've been using gimp for years now, never had an interest in using it in a windows environment, never will. I'm not interested in seeing GIMP emulate Photoshop. Perhaps because Gimpshop fulfills a need that has been ignored for a long time? Artists get used to a tool and they don't want to learn a new one. Photoshop is usually that tool, Then let them stay with Photoshop if their issue is such. They want their cake and eat it too. They want GIMP price, but they don't want to learn a better interface. fortunately or unfortunately. It's a shame that Gimpshop as a project isn't really much in the way of structure, but why not rip it off and inspire them to get better? Make fun of them until they change? Write a guide for people to make Gimpshop proper for inclusion, and heck, even I might give it a shot. You can not fix the way it was created. That is the issue at hand. As other's have noted, the creator of GIMPSHOP has created confusion by not following the accepted protocol for forking an application. He/she should have made reasonable attempts to work with the existing developers. As it is, it's a poor and confusing hack. -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Re: [Gimp-user] How to High light a gif text image]
ajmal sherif wrote: Hi Folks I recently downloaded GIMP and I am new to it. Please advise how you would attempt this: I have a gif image of some text eg This is my Goldfish. I wish to now highlight it as follows: This is my Goldfish Hi Ajmal, Since nobody else has responded, here are my suggestions - open to correction from more expert people (I'm using GIMP 2.2.4 under Mandrake Linux): the gif image will be opened in Gimp in b/w or indexed, and you won't be able to colour anything. So, (1) open the gif file. (2) save it as a Gimp file, i.e. right click on the image= File= Save as. Click on Save File Type (By Extension). Click on GIMP XCF Image= Save. The name along the title bar at the top of the image should then be changed from xxx.gif to xxx.xcf. (3) Right Click on the image= Image =Mode = RGB to convert to RGB. The name on the image title bar should be changed to xxx.xcf (RGB, 1 layer) I think the first step would be to create a rectangle around the word using Select Rectang Regions. (4) OK But then how do i select the colour (5) Look at the main GIMP panel - the bottom left corner has a couple of overlapping oblongs, one white, one black, with a small bent double-headed arrow at their upper right corners. The front oblong selects your foreground colour, the back oblong your background; you can swap them over by clicking on the little bent arrow. To select red foreground, click on the front oblong - this brings up a coloured panel and coloured strip at its side. Clicking in the strip changes the spectrum shown in the panel; clicking in the panel selects the colour chosen. Find your red= OK. (6) On the main GIMP panel, click on the Paint Pot icon. (7) Back on the Image. Click in the Rectangle Selected area. Wait briefly; and the area will be coloured red. (8) Rectangle Select your next word. Then repeat (5), (6), (7) for that colour. (9) etc and how do i make sure i can still read the background text (in another programme i think they called this Transparency) For black text and the colours you chose for an example, that shouldn't be a problem Also I might need to increase the font size. (10) The gif image you would be importing into Gimp would be a picture, not text, so you could only increase the image size, not the font size. There's a Scaling Tool on the main Gimp panel (two rectangles joined by an arrow, a tiny and a larger) to do this. As far as I know you can't import text as text into Gimp. Then to save for use in a word document (11) Right click on the image.=File = Save as= Select File type. Probably JPEG image is your easiest option. (It will probably say you have to flatten the image first) La stly, I then want to be able to copy the whole into a word document. (12) I'm no longer up to date with Word; but IIRC in Word '97: Insert= Picture= From File = Files of Type = JPEG Interchange File Format should do it. I would be most grateful if anyone can advise me the steps in doing all of this - and please tell me names/location of the various buttons. snip However, I do recommend you do some reading on the Gimp. Try Grokking the Gimp http://gimp-savvy.com/ and the Gimp User Manual http://docs.gimp.org/en/ HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] arrow heads on lines
Hi, I would like to be able to draw lines with arrow heads on the end of them, and for this to work with latest Gimp 2.2.10 on both linux and windows - what is the best solution ? Thanks dave -- David Herring --- NetFM Ltd T: 01344 769068 M: 07973 673027 --- http://www.journey2share.co.uk/ The number 1 trusted car share solution ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] arrow heads on lines
David Herring wrote: I would like to be able to draw lines with arrow heads on the end of them, and for this to work with latest Gimp 2.2.10 on both linux and windows - what is the best solution ? Are you restricted to using the GIMP? The GIMP is primarily not a drawing tool. To do the task you just described, another program, Inkscape[1], fits the bill perfectly. It is compiled to work on GNU/Linux and MS Windows. Harish [1] http://www.inkscape.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp development
Paul Bloch wrote: Hello, I'm an occasional Gimp user and prefessional graphic designer. I was wondering where and how do I get involved with user-interface development. I have several ideas that I think would better the experience. I'm planning on writing a longer article about usability for osnews.com http://osnews.com and part of that is talking about Gimp. However I didn't want any criticism I make to suggest I have any hostility torwards the community or the project. And considering people's sentiment's torwards Gimpshop, I think it'd be best if I go about this the right way, by speaking to the development team and community first. Thanks, Paul openartist.net http://openartist.net Well, I think a good start could be to try 1.0, 1.2, 2.2 and 2.3 in order to see the evolution of the interface. Some things have clearly improved and many critics are usually based on a bad experience 4-5 years ago with 1.0 and 1.2 versions. As an example, the introduction of the editable docks and the option for transient windows have removed most of the validity of the most repeated critic about the gimp interface: absence of WiW mode (à la Windows Photoshop/PaintShopPro). What was already possible 5 years ago with good window managers (Enlightenement supported grouping windows) is now possible with common window managers (e.g. Metacity/KWin) and WiW becomes absolutely pointless. Also, previewing fr plugins was quite a good interface improvement. As the fact that some windows do not pop up where you do not want them to. On the other hand, the new GTK open/save dialogue has been subject to many critics, in Gnome and in Gimp. Gimp developers have tried to implement fixes for most of the annoyances. But the dialogue is still quite bothering. However, the blame is to be put on the gnome HIG, not on Gimp developers. Just my 0.02 euro cents, as a user. Regards, Olivier ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog
On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 12:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the new GTK open/save dialogue has been subject to many critics, in Gnome and in Gimp. Gimp developers have tried to implement fixes for most of the annoyances. But the dialogue is still quite bothering. However, the blame is to be put on the gnome HIG, not on Gimp developers. Just my 0.02 euro cents, as a user. I love the open/save dialogue. What specifically are people having trouble with? Having the places tied into these dialogs is great and I can add remove these bookmarks as I like. Is it the functionality or the UI? PS: This is just curiosity I'm not trying to start a war. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Ross Brown wrote: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 02:45:28 + From: Ross Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GIMPUser Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop Sorry for jumping in half-way through a conversation that I haven't been entirely privy to - but I just wanted to make a suggestion/point that is (I hope) relevant. relevancy never stopped anyone on the internet Perhaps all that's really needed is the PS menu-GIMP menu mapping document in a proposal as a cheat sheet. When Adobe launched InDesign, it was taking on a dominant market leader in Quark XPress. People like me who had used XPress for years were used to a certain way of working and innately knew a load of keyboard shortcuts etc for doing our jobs. What Adobe did was inspired: yes, you could, out of the box, use InDesign as Adobe intended or, with the flick of a preference button, InDesign was set- up to recognise and use the XPress shortcuts that people were used to. psmenurc is a file which contains Photoshop style keyboards shortcuts, and if you use it to replace the standard menurc you get something similar to what you suggest, although but not the easy at the ~flick of switch part~. - Alan H. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] arrow heads on lines
And you can import some SVG (which Inkscape produces) back in to the gimp as a path. Not sure if the arrowheads will make it, but it's worth a try. Harish Narayanan wrote: David Herring wrote: I would like to be able to draw lines with arrow heads on the end of them, and for this to work with latest Gimp 2.2.10 on both linux and windows - what is the best solution ? Are you restricted to using the GIMP? The GIMP is primarily not a drawing tool. To do the task you just described, another program, Inkscape[1], fits the bill perfectly. It is compiled to work on GNU/Linux and MS Windows. Harish [1] http://www.inkscape.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog
Specifically I don't like the ctrl-L thing to type a path in - I frequently use a file browser or shell that I can copy a path from and paste into the open dialog of most applications I use. Until last month I didn't even know about the ctrl-L option. In a more philosophical sense I don't like that it's different from the rest of the file open/save dialogs on the OSes that I use. I use KDE and Windows and I love that I can get the Gimp in both. I don't like that in both of those environments I have this application that acts differently to do the same job. It's not just the Gimp, I have the same complaint about the File Open/Save in Blender3d and all those Windows apps that think Open/Save needs to be redone. PS: It seems hard to discuss this kind of issue without starting a war, but please read all my statements in the friendliest (but not, of course, sarcastic) voice that you can imagine ;-) George Farris wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 12:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the new GTK open/save dialogue has been subject to many critics, in Gnome and in Gimp. Gimp developers have tried to implement fixes for most of the annoyances. But the dialogue is still quite bothering. However, the blame is to be put on the gnome HIG, not on Gimp developers. Just my 0.02 euro cents, as a user. I love the open/save dialogue. What specifically are people having trouble with? Having the places tied into these dialogs is great and I can add remove these "bookmarks" as I like. Is it the functionality or the UI? PS: This is just curiosity I'm not trying to start a war. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Rob Russell http://rr.latenightpc.com/wp/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
