Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Saturday 12 June 2004 02:17 am, Michael Schumacher wrote: Greg Rundlett wrote: With other platforms or distros, you're potentially going to run into blockers. These are issues that GIMP developers/testers/volunteers might want to address in a) an install script (if that is even possible) or b) an install guide. I expect the more 'polished' software to have installers that take care of the complexities. OpenOffice.org does a good job of hiding the complexities, and Mozilla has been more recently successful in this area as well. I think GIMP, and GTK are essential parts of the Free Software desktop, so I hope that any ordinary user can take advantage of them. All I am reporting is that it can be difficult to install GIMP. If I were capable of making it easier to install, I would. Well, it is hardly GIMP's job to care for all the requirements of the platform you're using... maybe you should complain on a Fedora mailing list instead? I disagree. We, as free software authors, benefit by making our software easy to install. By doing so, we encourage looky-lous to try out our software, and some day become users, then developers who further enhance our software. This is the way we grow. When we developers use a tool or library to make our work easier, it's our job to make it easy for the user to install that tool or library. Most Gimp users want to spend their brainpower on making new and interesting images -- not on getting the software installed. If Gimp relies on tools provided by the operating system or the gcc libraries, Gimp should find ways to make installation easy in environments of widely differing versions of these tools. SteveT Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What was used to create this graphic?
On Monday 10 May 2004 07:45 pm, everyman outsourced wrote: I am a graphics newbe. I have to modify the text in the attached. Looks like a gradient was used but the text is reversed down to the pixel level in terms of color. All I need are the right tools in GIMP to edit the text. Thanks in advance -John Hi John, Because this graphic was a .gif, it has no layers, so you'll need to physically erase the letters. I just did it as follows: Copy a square to the left of the top row of letters. Continually paste that square over the letters, to extend the gradiant over the letters. Then copy a square to the left of the bottom row of letters, and do the same thing. Next, create a new layer for your text, and put the text on the new layer and save as an .xcf file. Now if you ever need to remodify the text, you can do so without all the drama. Attached is the xcf file, suitably blanked out. SteveT Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org attachment: btn1_off_tweaked_by_stevelitt.xcf___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What was used to create this graphic?
On Monday 10 May 2004 07:45 pm, everyman outsourced wrote: I am a graphics newbe. I have to modify the text in the attached. Looks like a gradient was used but the text is reversed down to the pixel level in terms of color. All I need are the right tools in GIMP to edit the text. Thanks in advance -John __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org attachment: btn1_off_tweaked_by_stevelitt.xcf___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: What was used to create this graphic?
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 09:39 am, GSR - FR wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-05-11 at 0924.31 -0400): Copy a square to the left of the top row of letters. Continually paste that square over the letters, to extend the gradiant over the letters. Then copy a There is a simpler way: select a one pixel column in the left, just near the text then scale it horizontaly. Faster than pasting. :] Sounds great! How do you stretch it? Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changing house colour
On Sunday 25 April 2004 03:02 am, Ken Walker wrote: I was asked the other day if I could change the dark brown trim on our house including down spouts and eavestroughs but not the roof as shown in http://qblaw.ca/house.jpg Ken -- I use the dxm theme for IceWM. It's primarily dark green with subdued greens and yellows. Your house photo makes the ideal background for this theme. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changing house colour
On Sunday 25 April 2004 03:02 am, Ken Walker wrote: I was asked the other day if I could change the dark brown trim on our house including down spouts and eavestroughs but not the roof as shown in http://qblaw.ca/house.jpg from dark brown to Montana Tan as shown in http://qblaw.ca/paint.jpg Doors would be Autumn haze. I thought this would be a great exercise in learning to use The Gimp but I have become lost in selection modes, layers, channels and the like reading Grokking the Gimp and the regular docs. I have tried to use google to find something appropriate to help me with this, but can't come up with the magic search words to get me there. Could someone point me to some resource that will walk me through this task and/or give me a bit of an outline of which tools I should use to get where I want to go. And while you are looking at these images, what do you think of the colour choice? They aren't my choices and I have no idea about these things. Hi Ken, While you're waiting for an authoritative answer I'll give you what I know. I'd use the bezier selection tool to select the trim, eavesdrops and spouts, but not the roof, trees, etc. Then I'd Rightclick-select-bycolor, click the intersection radio button, use a threshold somewhere in the 10-25 area, and click a portion of the drawing, inside the selections, that has one of the lighter parts of dark brown. This will select all sorts of stuff. Then I'd make the foreground color a lighter shade of montana tan, and Rightclick-Edit-fillWithForegroundColor. I'd repeat the same thing for a slightly darker part of dark brown, replacing with a slightly darker montana tan, and so on til all the dark brown on eaves, spouts and trim are replaced by montana tan. My method will eliminate quite a bit of texture. I'm sure some of the other people on the list will come up with ways to replace all the brown at once, texture and all, and I'll anxiously await that information. But if worst comes to worst, you can do what I just said -- I've done it often. By the way -- I use select by color a lot when I scan yellow receipts. I use select by color to turn the yellow to white, then save it as grayscale and save mucho megabytes. SteveT Steve Litt Founder and acting president: GoLUG http://www.golug.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to parse an .xcf file?
On Monday 19 April 2004 03:01 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I do read it as XCF is to hackish, and only The GIMP can read it. We need to speed-up a new GIMP native format, with a XML Header.; Meanwhile use other image formats, please Well, yes, but I wrote that in an earlier reply already. What about starting work on this for 2.2, even if it is not going to completly replace .XCF by the time 2.2 is out? We could have an extensible file format that would hold most GIMP image information, and still not be the default file format, if that would be so hard to achieve. I do not recall seeing a new file format in the 2.2 plans Sven wrote up a couple of weeks ago. The plan wasn't a plan but a request for comments. The new file format we outlined will be strongly dependent on GEGL and it will require decoders to either use GEGL or to implement functionality similar to GEGL. In case you didn't notice, OEyvind Kolaas is working on this and he already came up with a nice subset of what could be the final file format. I'm just one user of millions, but I hope any new native file format is not binary. Being able to easily manipulate your data with Vim is a very nice plan B, in case it gets in a state Gimp can't handle, or in case one wants to run a script on it. I do this with LyX all the time, including a VimOutliner to LyX conversion script. Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to parse an .xcf file?
On Monday 19 April 2004 02:37 pm, David Neary wrote: Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xcf is a pure-binary format. It is documented in several places - 1) in devel-docs/xcf.txt in the GIMP's CVS 2) in app/xcf/*.[ch] - notably xcf.c/xcf.h which describe the file format and xcf-load and -save which do the reading/writing. 3) in ImageMagick's xcf filter (this will flatten your image and the floating selection, I believe) 4) On Cinepaint's website http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net in the docs section. Sorry, wrong answer. The right answer is: You don't parse it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. you don't parse it doesn't exactly tally with being an open source program. Dave. I think what Sven probably meant is it's very difficult to parse, having to basically rip out the load and save functions, and get all the data definitions right. David -- thanks for the tips, because in my case it's worth the aggravation to be able to parse the data. I've been reviewing xcf.h and xcf.c and it's pretty interesting. It looks to me like an image is basically a list of properties, layers, channels, floating selection, and selections. I'm not sure what a property is, or how it relates to a pixel. I just began to study XcfImage *read_xcf_image( FILE *fp ), and after I fully understand it, I should be able to be able to parse a .xcf file into an outline or something similar, and then pack the outline back into a .xcf file. Thanks Steve Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to parse an .xcf file?
On Monday 19 April 2004 04:31 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: I also explicitely meant to discourage you and anyone else from attempting to load XCF files. If you need to read them, let GIMP read them for you. The GIMP PDB gives you everything you need to access the data contained in the XCF file. What is the Gimp PDB? Steve Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] How to parse an .xcf file?
Hi all, I've created a .xcf file in which you cannot turn off the selection. If you want to see it, it's: http://www.stevelitt.com/images/page2.xcf What I'd like to do is go into the actual data with an editor, and manually remove the selection. I'm assuming here that a .xcf file is some sort of compressed markup language, but in fact I can't convert it to text with zless, unzip or gunzip. What is the format for a .xcf file, and how do I parse it? I'm using Gimp version 1.2.5 on Mandrake 9.2. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
