[Gimp-user] Two Questions...

2002-12-13 Thread Pat Suwalski
Hello,

I've been using GIMP for a while now, and I'm starting to liken to the 
1.3.x line.

I have two questions that people here may be capable of answering:

1) When will 1.3 be put into stable?
2) Has anyone ever considered making GIMP into a single-window interface 
with MDI and children windows? An annoyance of GIMP is how it takes so 
many windows and shows up in the task list when alt-tabbing.

Thanks in advance!

--Pat

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Re: [Gimp-user] Two Questions...

2002-12-13 Thread David Burren
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:11:26 CDT, Pat Suwalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) Has anyone ever considered making GIMP into a single-window interface 
 with MDI and children windows? An annoyance of GIMP is how it takes so 
 many windows and shows up in the task list when alt-tabbing.

This is where you'd get into religious bunfights if you took away the
current interface.  If a single-window interface was available, it
should be selectable.  The multi-window interface is one of the things I
love about the Gimp.  I already have a window manager running which can
take care of them, so why not use it?

I'm one of those people who use virtual workspaces (10 of them in fact).
I often have Gimp windows clustered in one workspace, but it's useful to
have Gimp windows pop up in other workspaces and in fact sometimes I
have Gimp windows appearing in multiple workspaces.

When you talk about each window show[ing] up in the task list when
alt-tabbing, that would be a function of your window manager (or are
you running under Windows?).  You may be able to configure your WM
to be more helpful (e.g. by dropping some window names from the list).

BTW, my comments are based on experience with 1.2.x - can't comment on 1.3.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Two Questions...

2002-12-13 Thread Pat Suwalski
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, David Burren wrote:
 This is where you'd get into religious bunfights if you took away the
 current interface.  If a single-window interface was available, it
 should be selectable.  The multi-window interface is one of the things I
 love about the Gimp.  I already have a window manager running which can
 take care of them, so why not use it?

Because it's cleaner and more uniform throughout (and from computer to
computer, window manager to window manager) to let he program handle it.
And yes, I can't imagine it would be hard to make selectable. But for a
PhotoPaint poweruser, who is used to a much better UI than even PhotoShop
because of the way it handles its MDI interface, it should be considered.
PhotoShop doesn't do MDI/toolbar usage justice. PhotoPaint does.

The other point regarding this is that desktop managers are becoming ever
more popular on UNIX. The icons seeping through between my dialogs is
quite distracting. A solid gray is preferable.

 I'm one of those people who use virtual workspaces (10 of them in fact).
 I often have Gimp windows clustered in one workspace, but it's useful to
 have Gimp windows pop up in other workspaces and in fact sometimes I
 have Gimp windows appearing in multiple workspaces.

This is just fine. I have used Gimp on its own desktop, and it was better.
Again, I don't like the fact that alt-tab would select the individual
windows (I know, wm); I think it would be great if it could be made so
that the GIMP mother-window would take care of its children for me. :)

 When you talk about each window show[ing] up in the task list when
 alt-tabbing, that would be a function of your window manager (or are
 you running under Windows?).  You may be able to configure your WM
 to be more helpful (e.g. by dropping some window names from the list).

No, no, this is Gnome2 with Metacity. As I was typing that last eMail, I
did consider that possibility of hiding windows. This would work great
with some wm's, but Metacity doesn't do that (to the best of my
knowledge). Again, going back to the uniform design concept, this would
ideally be controlled by the gimp, and not the window manager.

Note how both PhotoShop and PhotoPaint have their own dock design with
smaller title bars and custom roll-up buttons, not relying on Windows'
(lacking) window manager.

 BTW, my comments are based on experience with 1.2.x - can't comment on 1.3.

In terms of window handling, 1.3 is the same as 1.2. I was kind of hoping
this would change somewhere along the way.

--Pat

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