Re: MyOwnBear Newsletter #18

2000-08-11 Thread Alan Buxey

hi,

 Is there a Bondage Bear? 

old news, already done ;-)

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/kcci1/bondidog.html

alan




The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune

Hi Fellow Gimpers...

My goal is to be able to install GIMP v1.1.24 with the perl plug-ins. I have
still not been able to do so after 3 to 4 weeks.

Just to recap, I have been trying two things 

(1) I compiled the source, downloaded from the GIMP's FTP site. Here is a
run-down of the error I am getting when running ./configure (after
successfully untarring the package) :

[root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
must specify one

I have make, automake and autoconf installed. As well as this, I have perl
5.005, gtk 1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8 installed (I did an rpm -Uvh --force to
upgrade these, so that may have adversely affected the results).

To help resolve this, I was advised to run uname -a, and here are the
results :

[root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.2.14-15mdkfb #1 Tue Jan 4 21:59:43 CET 2000
i586 unknown

(2) I located an RPM for v1.1.24 with perl included. When I had installed it
and ran GIMP, nothing happenednot even an error message not
helpful...

So, can anyone advise me further on this ?

thanks,
Andrew




Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread James Smaby

./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux
or
./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu

I need to specify this for quite a few things on my alpha (well,
with the obvious change).  Do a "./configure --help" if you want
to see all the options.



Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune

Thanks, James.

This got me a bit further. I am also getting an apparently non-fatal message
"makeinfo... missing" during the configure, but it keeps chugging along.

It eventually falls over with an error "C compiler cannot create
executables". I have gcc v2.95 installed - I thought this was enough ?

Any more ideas ?

regards,
Andrew

- Original Message -
From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.


 ./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux
 or
 ./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu

 I need to specify this for quite a few things on my alpha (well,
 with the obvious change).  Do a "./configure --help" if you want
 to see all the options.




Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread James Smaby

Boy, you're sure having a tough time.  It seems your compiler
is configured wrong (do you never compile things?).  I've had 
similar problems on my SGI (I've actually given up on it).  I
suggest reinstalling the compiler if it doesn't work for other
source as well (if it normall works, I don't know).  Make sure
that the compiler is for your architecture; i686 will not work 
on a normal pentium or K6II.  Given that uname gives out i586,
this could be your problem.  Perhaps somebody else will have a
better idea.



Recomposing color separated files

2000-08-11 Thread Vespierre, Eric

Hello,

Do you know if GIMP can help on the following?

I have 4 eps (or TIFF) files corresponding to 4 CMYK color separated files.
I'm looking for a way to combine them back into one color file, on a solaris
platform.

Thanks

Eric Vespierre
Unisys Publishing Solution




Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune

Thanks, James -- and Alan  -- for your persistent help with this problem.
James - in answer to your question (do you never compile things ?), I am a
very inexperienced compiler - at least in the Linux world.

Believe it or not, I have made some progress - although it is still falling
over during the ./configure stage.

I have done the following :

- Re-installed Mandrake Linux from scratch, and chose the 'Developer' option
(I thought that I had done this before, but obviously it didn't recognize my
compiler).
- Executed "rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps gtk+-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm" to upgrade GTK+
from the 1.2.6 version that was installed.
- Did likewise for glib.
- Executed "rpm -q" for both of these packages to ensure that the latest
version (i.e. 1.2.8) was indeed installed. It was.
- Ensured the version of Perl was up-to-date (v5.00503 I think).
- Copied gimp-1.1.24.tar.gz across to a sub-directory of /root.
- Successfully untarred, i.e. "tar zxvf gimp-1.1.24.tar.gz".
- Ran "./configure --host=i586-pc-linux-gnu".

It successfully got past my previous error. It went much further thru' the
configure, but fell over, as follows :

checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config
checking for GTK - version = 1.2.8...
*** An old version of GTK+ (1.2.6) was found.
*** You need a version of GTK+ newer than 1.2.8. The latest version of
*** GTK+ is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org.
***
*** If you have already installed a sufficiently new version, this error
*** probably means that the wrong copy of the gtk-config shell script is
*** being found. The easiest way to fix this is to remove the old version
*** of GTK+, but you can also set the GTK_CONFIG environment to point to the
*** correct copy of gtk-config. (In this case, you will have to
*** modify your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf
*** so that the correct libraries are found at run-time))
configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
[root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]#

Seeing as I had installed GTK+-1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8, apparently successfully
(see above) - I don't understand why it still says that 1.2.6 is still
installed ?? It must be that some artifacts have been left behind in one of
the config files ?

I looked at the gtk-config file, but was confronted with a very daunting
script. I also enquired on the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, by
keying in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH at the prompt. It returned nothing. Finally, I
had a look at /etc/ld.so.conf, and the contents are as follows, but seem
irrelevant to this problem :

/usr/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib
/usr/lib

Thanks in advance

regards,
Andrew



- Original Message -
From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.


 Boy, you're sure having a tough time.  It seems your compiler
 is configured wrong (do you never compile things?).  I've had
 similar problems on my SGI (I've actually given up on it).  I
 suggest reinstalling the compiler if it doesn't work for other
 source as well (if it normall works, I don't know).  Make sure
 that the compiler is for your architecture; i686 will not work
 on a normal pentium or K6II.  Given that uname gives out i586,
 this could be your problem.  Perhaps somebody else will have a
 better idea.





Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread James Smaby

Well, you're original gtk was the mdk version, right?  If this
is the case, then your `upgrade' using the redhat binary didnt
uninstall the mandrake version first.  I suggest doing this by
hand, then installing the redhat rpm.  I thought both of these
distributions put gtk in /usr, but you may want to see if your
newer gtk-config script is in '/usr/local/bin'  If this is the
case, then you can probably just delete the old file, and hope
things get found okay (that's how my system is set up, with an
old version in /usr/lib, but I don't like it that way).



Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew J Fortune

Thanks again, James.

I did this, but it got in a big knot. Probably something to do with the fact
that I had already attempted to install GTK v1.2.8

So I rebuilt the developers' version of Mandrake Linux (yet again!!). One of
the first things that I did after that was to remove GTK using the command
'rpm -ev --nodeps gtk+'. I did likewise with glib. This was to, in theory at
least, remove the old mdk version as you suggested.

Then I installed the 1.8 versions of GTK and glib (e.g. for GTK, I said
'rpm - ivh gtk+-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm').

I then went thru' the hoops of untarring and then attempting to configure as
before, but this error message still came up.

(I was in a sub-directory of /root when I did all of this)

Do you know what I can do from here ? (please don't say 'give up' :)).

regards,
Andrew

P.S. what is this 'gtk_config' file for anyway ?

- Original Message -
From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.


 Well, you're original gtk was the mdk version, right?  If this
 is the case, then your `upgrade' using the redhat binary didnt
 uninstall the mandrake version first.  I suggest doing this by
 hand, then installing the redhat rpm.  I thought both of these
 distributions put gtk in /usr, but you may want to see if your
 newer gtk-config script is in '/usr/local/bin'  If this is the
 case, then you can probably just delete the old file, and hope
 things get found okay (that's how my system is set up, with an
 old version in /usr/lib, but I don't like it that way).





Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....

2000-08-11 Thread Alan Buxey

hi,


 checking for working makeinfo... missing
 checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
 must specify one
 
 I have make, automake and autoconf installed. As well as this, I have perl
 5.005, gtk 1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8 installed (I did an rpm -Uvh --force to
 upgrade these, so that may have adversely affected the results).

this has already been answered twice last week.  something on your machine
is not installed - or running. possibly an identd??

you need to add  --host i686-pc-linux-gnu

after your ./configure  command

(thats if you've got a PentiumPro/II or III system )

other environments are:

ac_cv_host=${ac_cv_host='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_alias=${ac_cv_host_alias='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_cpu=${ac_cv_host_cpu='i686'}
ac_cv_host_os=${ac_cv_host_os='linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_vendor=${ac_cv_host_vendor='pc'}



best wishes!

alan