Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Richard Gitschlag
On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes to 
reference the foreground or background color instead of using a fixed color 
(right click a node handle and select the Color Type), however something like 
the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than a FG/BG fade (it uses more 
than two colors) so no, you can't just change its color to something else - 
you'd have to apply a consistent change the hue across like five nodes.  It's 
certainly doable, it just isn't as simple as it looks. :(

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400
From: etter...@gmail.com
To: rc...@pcug.org.au
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection.  
But I like
the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red.   The sharp crisp color and the 
sense
of depth,  but not the red.   I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue 
w/o

loosing the sense of depth that it gives.
I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, 
but all those
ways cancel out the depth effect.  So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the 
colors

before using the gradient.


On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote:



 Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient  

 then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example,

 or Tube Red  --   Is there any way to choose the colors for

 those gradients?  To make them FG  BG Colors for

 example?







In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG





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Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Helen
I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting.  I don't seem to
have the Gradient Editor.  I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6.  But
even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level.
Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it.
Helen

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Richard Gitschlag 
strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes
 to reference the foreground or background color instead of using a
 fixed color (right click a node handle and select the Color Type),
 however something like the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than
 a FG/BG fade (it uses more than two colors) so no, you can't just change
 its color to something else - you'd have to apply a consistent change the
 hue across like five nodes.  It's certainly doable, it just isn't as simple
 as it looks. :(

 -- Stratadrake
 strata_ran...@hotmail.com
 
 Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.


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 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400
 From: etter...@gmail.com
 To: rc...@pcug.org.au
 CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

 Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire
 selection.  But I like
 the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red.   The sharp crisp color and
 the sense
 of depth,  but not the red.   I guess there's no way to turn it green and
 blue w/o
 loosing the sense of depth that it gives.
 I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used
 it, but all those
 ways cancel out the depth effect.  So I guess I'd have to be able to
 choose the colors
 before using the gradient.


 On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote:


  Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient  
  then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example,
  or Tube Red  --   Is there any way to choose the colors for
  those gradients?  To make them FG  BG Colors for
  example?



 In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG


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Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Richard Gitschlag
But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is just 
not loaded into the toolboxes by default.  Try double-clicking a gradient from 
the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name), this should bring up 
the Gradient Editor.

Advance warning:  You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common 
to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the Duplicate button on a 
desired gradient before you go into editing mode.  Otherwise the editor will be 
in read-only mode.

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
From: etter...@gmail.com
To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting.  I don't seem to 
have the Gradient Editor.  I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6.  But 
even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level.  

Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it.
Helen

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Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Kinney
On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

 Advance warning:  You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design
 flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the
 Duplicate button on a desired gradient before you go into editing
 mode.  Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode.

That's a feature, not a bug.  The default gradients live in a
directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on
copies that belong to your user account prevents accidental
sabotage of other users.  The same applies to brushes and other
shared resources.

Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it.

:o)

Steve



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Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Helen
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag 
strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:

 But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is
 just not loaded into the toolboxes by default.  Try double-clicking a
 gradient from the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name),
 this should bring up the Gradient Editor.



Nope.  Doesn't.  I had already tried that actually, and also tried the four
methods described on the web page (which I happily bookmarked ).  I don't
seem to have that edit feature. I did find that the Land and Sea gradient,
in conical shape, does something close to what I'm trying to do.
Helen
GIMP 2.6 on Suse Linux




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 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
 From: etter...@gmail.com
 To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com
 CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

 I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting.  I don't seem
 to have the Gradient Editor.  I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6.
 But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level.
 Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it.
 Helen

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 using Linux, suse11.4




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Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

2013-03-25 Thread Richard Gitschlag
I mean that the fact you can't make any edits (even unsaved edits) to things 
like gradients or brush dynamics is the flaw.  I know the reason for it, but 
the end-to-end result is just not very convenient on the user -- brush dynamics 
especially (I actually removed the default dynamics folder from my GIMP 
preferences entirely; when I want brush dynamics, I NEED the ability to make 
arbitrary edits to them!) and the way 2.8 made them an official resource type 
really shoved it into the spotlight.

Not to stray too far into that topic though -- been there, done that. 
(https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-May/msg00148.html)

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 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:15:59 -0400
 From: ad...@pilobilus.net
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
 
 On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
 
  Advance warning:  You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design
  flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the
  Duplicate button on a desired gradient before you go into editing
  mode.  Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode.
 
 That's a feature, not a bug.  The default gradients live in a
 directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on
 copies that belong to your user account prevents accidental
 sabotage of other users.  The same applies to brushes and other
 shared resources.
 
 Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it.
 
 :o)
 
 Steve
 
 
 
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