Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Precision Conversion Dithering and Triangular wave gradient issues

2014-09-03 Thread Elle Stone

On 09/02/2014 07:00 PM, Michael Henning wrote:

I think I might have fixed the segfault. Could you pull and test again? Thanks.

   -- drawoc

commit 36d719c9862892ec64383699e7778264f06dd4be
Author: Michael Henning
Date:   Tue Sep 2 18:49:41 2014 -0400

 app: In GimpBlendTool, don't start the draw tool too early.

 Also simplify some related logic and rename related functions to
 be clearer.




That did fix the segfault. Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Precision Conversion Dithering and Triangular wave gradient issues

2014-09-03 Thread Elle Stone

On 09/03/2014 06:19 AM, Elle Stone wrote:

On 09/02/2014 07:00 PM, Michael Henning wrote:

I think I might have fixed the segfault. Could you pull and test
again? Thanks.

   -- drawoc

commit 36d719c9862892ec64383699e7778264f06dd4be
Author: Michael Henning
Date:   Tue Sep 2 18:49:41 2014 -0400

 app: In GimpBlendTool, don't start the draw tool too early.

 Also simplify some related logic and rename related functions to
 be clearer.




That did fix the segfault. Thanks!


Sorry! Sent to the wrong list!

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[Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread NoWhizzKid
Please, can anyone give me a really simple step by step to achieve smooth edges
on an image in GIMP? I've tried the tutorials I can find online, but I must be
missing something. I just don't understand how to make the edges of my image
smooth? This footprint is a prime example of something I want to smooth out
around the edges, but it just isn't working whenever I follow instruction I can
find online. Can anyone please help me? Thank you so much.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread Ofnuts

On 03/09/14 18:54, NoWhizzKid wrote:

Please, can anyone give me a really simple step by step to achieve smooth edges
on an image in GIMP? I've tried the tutorials I can find online, but I must be
missing something. I just don't understand how to make the edges of my image
smooth? This footprint is a prime example of something I want to smooth out
around the edges, but it just isn't working whenever I follow instruction I can
find online. Can anyone please help me? Thank you so much.

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* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/148/original/turquoisefoot.png



I think we have a question for you: how did you create that? Because 
it's likely more an error you do than a wrong technique.


If you want smooth outlines, you should create them using the path tool 
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-paths.html, then create a selection 
from the path (SelectFrom path) and then bucket-fill the selection. 
With the path tool, the smoother lines are those created with the least 
nodes, and where the tangent handles on each node are symmetrical.


A path done using you existing foot as a guide, then used for a 
selection and bucket-filled:


http://imgur.com/Phb0SHA
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[Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread NoWhizzKid
I think we have a question for you: how did you create that? Because 
it's likely more an error you do than a wrong technique.

If you want smooth outlines, you should create them using the path
tool
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-paths.html, then create a
selection
from the path (SelectFrom path) and then bucket-fill the selection. 
With the path tool, the smoother lines are those created with the
least
nodes, and where the tangent handles on each node are symmetrical.

A path done using you existing foot as a guide, then used for a 
selection and bucket-filled:

http://imgur.com/Phb0SHA

Oh lord, lol. I am so grateful for your reply, and the image that you have
attached is absolutely perfect - 100% what I am after. But I'm afraid I just
don't understand most of what you have explained to me with regards to tangent
handles, nodes etc. I am such an amateur!

I will experiment with the path tool, but is there any way you could explain
briefly how to start? The image I attached was originally a photograph of a
paint footprint. I used the alpha channel to remove the background, then
smoothed out the outline as best I could with the eraser and finally colourised
the image. I appreciate this isn't the right way of doing things as the image
doesn't look good! But I've taught myself how to use GIMP and it's still a
struggle as I am a real novice!

Thanks so much again for your reply :)

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[Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Oliver Dillenburger
Hello everybody,
 
I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
 
Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
states I need to open at least one layer to work.
The XCF is 400 MB.
 Gimp 2.8.10 and 2.8.14 both had the same problem.
 
Any help is appreciated,
 
Oliver
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Re: [Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread Ofnuts

On 03/09/14 19:38, NoWhizzKid wrote:

I think we have a question for you: how did you create that? Because
it's likely more an error you do than a wrong technique.

If you want smooth outlines, you should create them using the path
tool
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-paths.html, then create a
selection

from the path (SelectFrom path) and then bucket-fill the selection.

With the path tool, the smoother lines are those created with the
least
nodes, and where the tangent handles on each node are symmetrical.

A path done using you existing foot as a guide, then used for a
selection and bucket-filled:

http://imgur.com/Phb0SHA

Oh lord, lol. I am so grateful for your reply, and the image that you have
attached is absolutely perfect - 100% what I am after. But I'm afraid I just
don't understand most of what you have explained to me with regards to tangent
handles, nodes etc. I am such an amateur!

I will experiment with the path tool, but is there any way you could explain
briefly how to start? The image I attached was originally a photograph of a
paint footprint. I used the alpha channel to remove the background, then
smoothed out the outline as best I could with the eraser and finally colourised
the image. I appreciate this isn't the right way of doing things as the image
doesn't look good! But I've taught myself how to use GIMP and it's still a
struggle as I am a real novice!

Thanks so much again for your reply :)



OK, so now I start t understand what happened to you. To remove the 
background, I assume that you used the layer mask technique. This can 
work well if you use a soft brush (ie a round brush with fuzzy 
borders). There are a few in the standard brushes (called Hardness 
100 (very hard), Hardness 075 (medium hard), Hardness 050, 
Hardness 025). This produces smooth lines because the edge pixels of 
the foot print are partially transparent(*). And to colourize the image 
you applied a selection from the Fuzzy select (magic wand) or the Color 
select. Unfortunately these tools do an all-or-nothing job. Either the 
pixel is fully selected or it is not selected at all. So when you apply 
paint, the pixels that were subtly partially transparent become fully 
opaque, and there are no anti-aliasing pixels left and your outline 
becomes jaggy. Instead, you should have used the alpha lock to protect 
the partial transparency of these pixels.


In other words, your technique is OK if you are careful, and the Path 
tool isn't necessary in this case (even if in many cases, it can solve 
the problem in a totally different way, as seen in my first post).



(*) see 
http://gimpforums.com/thread-proper-subject-extraction-background-removal-and-background-painting







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[Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread NoWhizzKid
Thank you!!! I'm slowly getting the hang of it, though not very accurate with my
nodes at the minute!!! I'm struggling to fill the image though with an
alternative colour? I don't understand where 'bucket fill' is?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread Ofnuts

On 03/09/14 22:56, NoWhizzKid wrote:

Thank you!!! I'm slowly getting the hang of it, though not very accurate with my
nodes at the minute!!! I'm struggling to fill the image though with an
alternative colour? I don't understand where 'bucket fill' is?

The tilted bucket in the Toolbox palette, the by the menu ToolsPaint 
toolsBucket-fill, or with the Shift-B keyboard shortcut.

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[Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread NoWhizzKid
OK, this is my first attempt. It looks dreadful. I used the paths tool and
followed this tutorial...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bMJH6aQwsw

It's so bad though! Where am I going wrong?!

Thanks again for your help - I very much appreciate it :)

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http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/149/original/TurquoiseFootFromPath1.png

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Re: [Gimp-user] Strugglign with Smooth Edges

2014-09-03 Thread Ofnuts

On 03/09/14 23:35, NoWhizzKid wrote:

OK, this is my first attempt. It looks dreadful. I used the paths tool and
followed this tutorial...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bMJH6aQwsw

It's so bad though! Where am I going wrong?!

Thanks again for your help - I very much appreciate it :)

Attachments:
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/149/original/TurquoiseFootFromPath1.png



Why do you have the gray outline? Did you do the bucket fill on a clean 
layer?


The trick with the path tool is to use as few nodes as possible. The 
more nodes, the more contrived the curve looks. In my version there are 
16 nodes for the main print and 4 or 5 nodes for each toe.The path is 
also less contrived if the tangents on nodes are symmetrical (this is 
automatic if you depress the shift key while dragging the tangent handles).

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Oliver Dillenburger d-bur...@web.de wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
 I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.

 Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
 states I need to open at least one layer to work.

That reminds me something. Maybe someone on the list or in a bug
report had a similar issue, but I can't find. What is the exact
message error?

 The XCF is 400 MB.

Is it a file you can share publicly? Could you upload it somewhere so
that we can have a look?
If that's not a file you want/are allowed to share, could you still
upload it and send a private message with the link?
Thanks.

Jehan

  Gimp 2.8.10 and 2.8.14 both had the same problem.

 Any help is appreciated,

 Oliver
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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
 I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.

And this isn't going to help immediately, but once I've been working
on a file called my_cool_image_01.xcf for over an hour, I do a
File-Save As (CTRL-Shift-S), and name it 'my_cool_image_02.xcf.
This isn't just a GIMP thing - I do the same in all programs.  Disk
space is cheap; my time is not ;)

Going forward, if you use this strategy you'll likely only lose an
hour at most if things go sideways.  But to be fully honest I pair
that strategy with regular off-site backups :)

Chris
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