Re: [Gimp-user] gbr viewer

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Kinney
On 05/30/2015 08:56 PM, mgroothuis wrote:
>> Having gone nuts with my brush collection I not wish to cull it but
>> have no easy way of viewing the brushes. Is there a piece of software
>> like the abr viewer for GIMP brushes?
> 
> *not=now

This is a long standing annoyance.  In the past I have done this:

1) Copy all the brushes from the GIMP's system wide 'brushes'
directory into the user account 'brushes' directory.

2) Move or rename the system wide 'brushes' directory to make it
invisible to the GIMP without risk of losing it.

3) In the GIMP's dockable dialog for brushes, with a blank white
image canvas open and the brush tool active, work through the brush
collection checking for and deleting unwanted ones.

An easy way would be to convert all those .gbr files to jpg or png
with the same names and review those in any image viewer.  But alas...

I was very surprised to find that Imagemagick does not have a
decoder to read .gbr files, which makes the e-z way to convert all
those brushes to PNG or other files for more convenient review a
non-starter.  The GIMP can do this, but I have never waded through
the details and actually done it because Imagemagick is usually the
right tool for the job of batch image conversion.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5794640/how-to-convert-xcf-to-png-using-gimp-from-the-command-line

:o/

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Re: [Gimp-user] What causes random (in error) image color-inverting of TIFFs, over time? Is it correctable?

2015-05-31 Thread Daniel Smith
when you say youre seeing thison a web page,
can i ask what type of system yure serving the pages with?
wordpress etc? or is it an image generation with php or something?
thanks
dan

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Jay Smith  wrote:

> Greetings fellow Gimp Users,
>
> I make images using Gimp, but I assume that this question is not really
> Gimp specific.
>
> I have tens of thousands of images (postage stamps) on my site.  Every now
> and then when I am looking at a page I discover that the image (a JPEG) has
> had is colors "sort of inverted".  The JPEGs were created in large batches
> by a script from UNcompressed TIFF images.  When I go back and look at the
> the original TIFF, I discover that its colors are "sort of inverted" --
> thus the JPEG is a correct rendition of the appearance of its TIFF source.
>
> Thus the problem is in the TIFF.  But, the problem happens now and then,
> over the course of years.  The TIFFs are _not_ being intentionally
> manipulated in that time.  The images was originally okay, now its not.  It
> seems to be completely random, just one image here and there.
>
> Somehow the TIFF is getting corrupted.  I am assuming by a memory error or
> a disk/RAID controller error, or such.  The images are still openable in
> Gimp.
>
> This is only happening to one out perhaps one out of five thousand images,
> every five years.  (I am just *guessing* at the error rate because I only
> find out about them by randomly coming across them.) But, if I have 40,000
> images, that is eight images destroyed every five years.  (And often I am
> not able to replace the image because I no longer have the item.)
>
> This example image was originally created in 2006.  I suspect (mostly
> guessing) that it was corrupted sometime since 2010.  There is no reason
> that it would have been edited since that time and file modification
> information shows nothing since 2006.
>
> On Ubuntu Linux, using "identify -verbose filename.tif" I can read the
> header information.  The only odd thing (to my eye) is that the create date
> is 2011 and the modification date is 2006:
>
> Properties:
> date:create: 2011-09-13T11:30:24-04:00
> date:modify: 2006-12-21T00:53:03-05:00
>
> I am guessing that means the corruption may have happened in 2011, even
> though the filesystems own file datestamp is 2006 and the lsattr command
> shows nothing unusual.
>
>
> Here is example of a) the resulting JPEG (just to illustrate the nature of
> the corruption); b) a similar JPEG to show generally what it is supposed to
> look like; c) the corrupted TIFF.
>
> Corrupted:
>
> http://jsa.viewimage.net/jsa/web/Lists/Denmark/AdPairs/Spec/re02-pair_used-vf-b_136468_r_l.jpg
>
> Correct image of a similar, but different item:
>
> http://jsa.viewimage.net/jsa/web/Lists/Denmark/AdPairs/Spec/re02-pair_used-vf-a_136467_r_l.jpg
>
> This is the TIFF file (corrupted, but viewable in Gimp; colors are
> sort-of-inverted)  Size 496 KB:
> http://jsa.viewimage.net/temp/gimp/re02-pair_used-vf-b_136468.tif
>
> My primary question is whether there is a "particular bit that is getting
> flipped" that could be "unflipped" by some sort of non-visual editing of
> the source TIFF file?
>
> My secondary question is whether or not other people have seen this type
> of problem crop up in large image libraries and what the causes have been?
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
>
> Jay
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Re: [Gimp-user] What causes random (in error) image color-inverting of TIFFs, over time? Is it correctable?

2015-05-31 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 17:25 -0400, Jay Smith wrote:

> My primary question is whether there is a "particular bit that is 
getting flipped" that could be "unflipped" by some sort of non-visual 
editing of the source TIFF file?

> My secondary question is whether or not other people have seen this 
type of problem crop up in large image libraries and what the causes 
have been?

The nearest I have seen to this that i can remember involves software 
changes - e.g. a different version of libtiff or whatever. For 
example, recently some images on  http://www.fromoldbooks.org/appeared 
to break, and it turned out to be a version of the jpeg library that 
had stopped supporting arithmetic encoding (for software patent 
reasons).

TIFF is one of the more complex graphics formats in widespread use; 
for my own part I prefer to use PNG because at least the core image 
part is relatively simple and well-specified and widely supported.

If by any chance you have both an "uncorrupted" and a "corrupted" TIFF 
file, and you know for sure what programs were used to create them and 
on what platform (e.g. Linux on SPARC, Linux on Intel-64, 32-bit 
Windows on Intel, etc) I'm willing to take a look, althogh I don't 
think I have TIFF debugging stuff around any more.

It seems unlikely that the same single-bit error would happen on 
multiple images because of a hard drive problem, especially if a RAID 3
or higher storage system didn't detect it. Not impossible - an 
infinite number of monkeys typing for all eternity might all type 
nothing except page 54 of the January 1936 Great Western Railway 
timetable through Crewe - but I'd look for more likely causes first, 
the most likely of which might be a software change.

Liam


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The barefoot typographer


http://www.fromoldbooks.org/ - words & pictures from old books
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[Gimp-user] What causes random (in error) image color-inverting of TIFFs, over time? Is it correctable?

2015-05-31 Thread Jay Smith

Greetings fellow Gimp Users,

I make images using Gimp, but I assume that this question is not really 
Gimp specific.


I have tens of thousands of images (postage stamps) on my site.  Every 
now and then when I am looking at a page I discover that the image (a 
JPEG) has had is colors "sort of inverted".  The JPEGs were created in 
large batches by a script from UNcompressed TIFF images.  When I go back 
and look at the the original TIFF, I discover that its colors are "sort 
of inverted" -- thus the JPEG is a correct rendition of the appearance 
of its TIFF source.


Thus the problem is in the TIFF.  But, the problem happens now and then, 
over the course of years.  The TIFFs are _not_ being intentionally 
manipulated in that time.  The images was originally okay, now its not. 
 It seems to be completely random, just one image here and there.


Somehow the TIFF is getting corrupted.  I am assuming by a memory error 
or a disk/RAID controller error, or such.  The images are still openable 
in Gimp.


This is only happening to one out perhaps one out of five thousand 
images, every five years.  (I am just *guessing* at the error rate 
because I only find out about them by randomly coming across them.) 
But, if I have 40,000 images, that is eight images destroyed every five 
years.  (And often I am not able to replace the image because I no 
longer have the item.)


This example image was originally created in 2006.  I suspect (mostly 
guessing) that it was corrupted sometime since 2010.  There is no reason 
that it would have been edited since that time and file modification 
information shows nothing since 2006.


On Ubuntu Linux, using "identify -verbose filename.tif" I can read the 
header information.  The only odd thing (to my eye) is that the create 
date is 2011 and the modification date is 2006:


Properties:
date:create: 2011-09-13T11:30:24-04:00
date:modify: 2006-12-21T00:53:03-05:00

I am guessing that means the corruption may have happened in 2011, even 
though the filesystems own file datestamp is 2006 and the lsattr command 
shows nothing unusual.



Here is example of a) the resulting JPEG (just to illustrate the nature 
of the corruption); b) a similar JPEG to show generally what it is 
supposed to look like; c) the corrupted TIFF.


Corrupted:
http://jsa.viewimage.net/jsa/web/Lists/Denmark/AdPairs/Spec/re02-pair_used-vf-b_136468_r_l.jpg

Correct image of a similar, but different item:
http://jsa.viewimage.net/jsa/web/Lists/Denmark/AdPairs/Spec/re02-pair_used-vf-a_136467_r_l.jpg

This is the TIFF file (corrupted, but viewable in Gimp; colors are 
sort-of-inverted)  Size 496 KB:

http://jsa.viewimage.net/temp/gimp/re02-pair_used-vf-b_136468.tif

My primary question is whether there is a "particular bit that is 
getting flipped" that could be "unflipped" by some sort of non-visual 
editing of the source TIFF file?


My secondary question is whether or not other people have seen this type 
of problem crop up in large image libraries and what the causes have been?


Any thoughts appreciated.

Jay
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[Gimp-user] GIMP project's official statement on SourceForge's actions

2015-05-31 Thread Michael Schumacher
This is the GIMP project's official statement on SourceForge's
actions[1] in regard to "abandoned" projects on their service.

We are fully aware that since their launch in 1999, SourceForge had been
providing a valuable service to the Free Software community and that
this service may still be relevant to some Free and Open Source Software
projects today.

The GIMP project did benefit from this service: SourceForge was the
place to download the Windows installer for GIMP for many years and we
appreciate it as an important part of GIMP history.

When it comes to distributing GIMP, our goal is to make it as easy as
possible for users to install GIMP.
We do not want our users having to dodge any "offers" or to worry about
possibly installing malware in the process.

With our shared history, it was painful to watch the invasion of the big
green "Download" button ads appearing on the SourceForge site.  Our
decision to move the Windows installers away from SourceForge in 2013
was a direct result of how its service degraded in this respect.

The situation became worse recently when SourceForge started to wrap its
downloader/installer around the GIMP project binaries. That SourceForge
installer put other software apart from GIMP on our users' systems. This
was done without our knowledge and permission, and we would never have
permitted it. It was done in spite of the following promise made by
SourceForge in November 2013 [2]:


"we want to reassure you that we will NEVER bundle offers with any
project without the developers consent." (emphasis in original)


To us, this firmly places SourceForge among the dodgy crowd of download
sites.
SourceForge are abusing the trust that we and our users had put into
their service in the past.

We don't believe that this is a fixable situation.
Even if they promise to adhere to the set of guidelines outlined below,
these promises are likely to become worthless with any upcoming
management change at SourceForge.

However, if SourceForge's current management are willing to collaborate
with us on these matters, then there might be a reduction in the damage
and feeling of betrayal among the Free and Open Source Software communities.

An acceptable approach would be to provide a method for *any* project to
cease hosting at any SourceForge site if desired, including the ability to:


* completely remove the project and URLs permanently, and not allow any
  other projects to take its place

* remove any hosted files from the service, and not maintain mirrors
  serving installers or files differing from those provided by the
  project or wrap those in any way

* provide permanent HTTP redirects (301) to any other location as
  desired by the project


This is not unreasonable to expect from a service that purports to
support the free software community.



[1]
http://web.archive.org/web/20150529094757/https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/

[2]
http://web.archive.org/web/20131115022447/http://sourceforge.net/blog/advertising-bundling-community-and-criticism/

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Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image transformation batch processing

2015-05-31 Thread JLuc

Thanks for this inspiring piece of code.

JLuc

Le 29/05/2015 18:32, Saul Goode a écrit :


On 28/05/15 19:44, JLuc wrote:


What is that for a lisp-like code ?


The difficulty that arises when recursing into subdirectories is that Script-fu 
does not provide a means of creating subdirectories (yet[1]). If I were to 
place all of the processed files in the same output directory, identically 
named files in subdirectories would overwrite each other, and I am too lazy to 
devise some renaming scheme that takes such duplicates into account.


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725626
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[Gimp-user] gbr viewer

2015-05-31 Thread mgroothuis
Having gone nuts with my brush collection I not wish to cull it but have no easy
way of viewing the brushes. Is there a piece of software like the abr viewer for
GIMP brushes?

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[Gimp-user] gbr viewer

2015-05-31 Thread mgroothuis
>Having gone nuts with my brush collection I not wish to cull it but
>have no easy way of viewing the brushes. Is there a piece of software
>like the abr viewer for GIMP brushes?

*not=now

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