Re: [Gimp-user] Keyboard shortcuts

[Owen Cook]

> On 09/25/2016 04:58 PM, Owen Cook wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I love this list, have followed it for years, though most is way over my
> >> head, I'm a 73 year old female GIMP lover!
> >>
> >> I do a lot of photo editing, and like to change tools rapidly, and want
> >> to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Right now when I mouse over a tool in
> >> the tool box, the pop-up shortcut is white on gray and I can hardly read
> >> it. Is there a way to change this?
> >>
> >> Thanks from Judy in Belize!
> >
> >
> >
> > Probably the easiest thing to do is to go to 'Edit->Keyboard shortcuts' and 
> > write down the ones you think you will mostly use.
> >
> > You will get familiar with them very quickly



> > Owen
> 
> Hi Owen - That's a good suggestion, and I did that, but all there say 
> Diabled. What do I do? Or do I ask my geek husband? :-D  I did change 
> the Colors and I can see them now, white on black, and I could write 
> them down from there. Good idea. Thanks, Judy
> 



Hi Judy,

Start by going to  Edit->Preferences->Interface  and perhaps reset the 
shortcuts in case you have done something obscure with them.

Then go back to Edit->Keyboard shortcuts, and then look at the very left of the 
dialog and you will see a "+"

Click on that and see what is there. 


Owen
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[Gimp-user] Color mismatch between display and printer

[James Moe]

  This is a continuation of the topic "Color mismatch when an image is
printed."

opensuse 42.1
linux 4.1.31-30-default x86_64
gimp 2.8.16

  Display color profile: Adobe RGB (1998)
  I have a Epson PM225 inkjet color printer.

  Several months ago the printer output an image whose color was a very
close match to the displayed image. Currently, the printer's output has
a strong green tint, a poor match to the display.
  The previous topic had several discussions regarding color profiles. I
have tried a variety of them for the display. None of the profiles has
made the slightest difference in the output.
  In GIMP settings for Color Management, (Edit :: Preferences :: Color
Management), I have set the "Printer simulated profile" to US Sheetfed
Uncoated. It has made zero difference to the output.
  One of the suggestions was to create a color profile for the printer.
The docs make no mention of how to do this. Epson does not offer a ICC
profile for that printer.

1. How do I create a color profile for a printer?
2. Why has the output image changed color?
3. Why has changing the color profiles made no difference whatsoever?


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[Gimp-user] Keyboard shortcuts

[Owen Cook]

>
>
> I love this list, have followed it for years, though most is way over my 
> head, I'm a 73 year old female GIMP lover!
> 
> I do a lot of photo editing, and like to change tools rapidly, and want 
> to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Right now when I mouse over a tool in 
> the tool box, the pop-up shortcut is white on gray and I can hardly read 
> it. Is there a way to change this?
> 
> Thanks from Judy in Belize!



Probably the easiest thing to do is to go to 'Edit->Keyboard shortcuts' and 
write down the ones you think you will mostly use.

You will get familiar with them very quickly



Owen
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Re: [Gimp-user] Approach to do cmyk conversion (was: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 29)

[Klaus Gölker]

Hello, another suggestion to convert any rgb image to cmyk by open source:
use Krita. Until GIMP is fully capable of doing this, Krita can do right
now: https://krita.org
Anyway, you will encounter color deviations, espacially in the range of blue
and turquise color tones after converting. This is, because rgb and cmyk are
not totally equal - both differ in color tones and color range. I can report
that after conversion from rgb to cmyk, colors, especially blue and reddish
ones, are shiftet in luminosity and look somewhat dull. And bright cobalt
blue tones are shifted towards somewhat turquoise, prussian blue tones.
AFAIK In regular cmyk printing, this is not to be avoided. One reason the
Pantone color tables have been invented for is gaining back those "special"
colors. But this efforts special printing machines, which can print a fifth
or even sixth color.
You may try to correct colors as far as possible after conversion with
Krita, but don´t expect the impossible.
Regards

Klaus Goelker 


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   1. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Alexandre Prokoudine)
   2. Re:  Color mismatch when an image is printed (Rick Strong)
   3. Re:  Most current version of GIMP (Elle Stone)
   4. Re:  Most current version of GIMP (Joseph A Nagy Jr)
   5. Re:  Color mismatch when an image is printed (James Moe)
   6.  Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions (Judy Wilson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:05:00 +0300
From: Alexandre Prokoudine 
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files
Message-ID:

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24 . 2016 ?. 0:37  "Steve Kinney" ???:

> The GIMP includes a filter that converts the visible image to CMYK 
> layers, and the result can be exported as a CMYK TIFF file.

Only if one installs a 3rd party plugin called separate+.

Alex


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:12:29 -0400
From: "Rick Strong" 
To: "Pat David" , "James Moe"
, 
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed
Message-ID: <345BB4AB15174E6B93916BB3499106F2@RickPC>
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I wasn?t meaning a photograph printing store, I was referring to a printing
shop that prints posters, flyers, books, etc. on paper. Like with a printing
press. However, if what the man wants is photo prints printed by someone
else, then yes, sRGB is most likely what he needs to send. 

In any and all cases, ask what they want and send them that. After you have
calibrated your monitor, of course.

Rick S.

From: Pat David
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:37 PM
To: Rick Strong ; James Moe ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed

Don't send CMYK to a photo print shop unless they specifically ask for it.
The majority of high end US print shops want sRGB for photo prints (not
books or offset printing - in that case I'd let them do the conversion
unless you know what you're doing). 

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:35 PM Rick Strong  wrote:

  I would start by buying a monitor colour calibration device like a SPYDER
  regardless of who is doing the printing, yourself at home or a print shop.
  Google SPYDER. It's simple to use, fast and accurate. There are others.

  If you are sending files out to a print shop send CMYK images in North
  America. The preference in Europe I think is LAB. Check with your printer.
  Try the US Sheetfed/un-coated profile at home or anything that matches
your
  paper and gets you close to your calibrated monitor image.

  Rick S.

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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 

Re: [Gimp-user] Controlling the interface through scripts

[Ofnuts]

On 25/09/16 08:47, John Smith wrote:

Hello everybody,


I am considering moving from Photoshop to The Gimp entirely.

I found answers for most of my concerns but there is still one point that
worries me.


Am I able to write scripts doing something like below.

if (keypressed=f7)

{

if(layerpalette.isVisible){

layerpalette.hide

}else(layerpalette.show)

}

I mean can I access the interface and control it through scripts? The idea
of the “script” above is to build a toggle to hide and show the layer
palette by pressing the f7 key.


The script and plug-ins do not control the user interface (and IMHO this 
is a good thing). However you can assign a keyboard shortcut to show the 
Layers list (Ctrl-L by default) and the Tab key will hide all dialogs.


The script and plug-ins do not control the user interface (and IMHO this 
is a good thing).to write a script

Another example:

if(keypressed=f3){if(activelayer.layermask.exists){activelayer.layermask.select}else{activelayer.layermask.add}
}

If the f3 key is pressed, if there is a layer mask on the active layer it
should be activated and if not an empty layer mask should be added and
activated.


Is it possible to do things like that with the Gimp 2.8x?

Cordialement,

John


You can define a keyboard shortcut to elicit the Layer Mask creation 
dialog. If you want a mask with a specific initial value, you have to 
write a script (and assign it to a shortcut). You can also define a 
shortcut to toggle editing between mask and layer, but that will be a 
different key.


 As they say, the tough thing with Gimp is not learning Gimp, but 
unlearning Photoshop.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message

[Ross Martinek]

Okay, I see what happened. When John’s original message appeared in my inbox, I 
must have misread the subject, or read the subject line for an adjacent email, 
probably because I was wearing my trifocals instead of the wide-field bifocals 
I usually wear for computer work.

John, I’m sorry if I added to your confusion and apologize. The 
misunderstanding is entirely mine and my fault.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 25.09.2016 um 18:06 schrieb Ross Martinek:
> 
>> That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.
> 
> I was referring to John's message.
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 25.09.2016 um 18:06 schrieb Ross Martinek:

> That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.

I was referring to John's message.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message (was: Re: Controlling the interface through scripts)

[Ross Martinek]

That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 25.09.2016 um 17:17 schrieb Ross Martinek:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Please repost this as a separate post. I suggest the subject: “Scripting in 
>> GIMP," rather than as a reply to this thread.
> 
> Hi Ross,
> 
> I don't see any sign of this being a reply in John's message - i.e. no
> References: or In-Reply-To: headers.
> 
> It doesn't appear as a reply in any thread, but starts a new one.
> 
> 
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[Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message (was: Re: Controlling the interface through scripts)

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 25.09.2016 um 17:17 schrieb Ross Martinek:

> John,
> 
> Please repost this as a separate post. I suggest the subject: “Scripting in 
> GIMP," rather than as a reply to this thread.

Hi Ross,

I don't see any sign of this being a reply in John's message - i.e. no
References: or In-Reply-To: headers.

It doesn't appear as a reply in any thread, but starts a new one.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Controlling the interface through scripts

[Ross Martinek]

John,

Please repost this as a separate post. I suggest the subject: “Scripting in 
GIMP," rather than as a reply to this thread. You’ll get more and better 
responses

BTW: Posting a different topic question to an existing thread is called 
“thread-jacking” and considered bad form.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:47 AM, John Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> 
> I am considering moving from Photoshop to The Gimp entirely.
> 
> I found answers for most of my concerns but there is still one point that
> worries me.
> 
> 
> Am I able to write scripts doing something like below.
> 
> if (keypressed=f7)
> 
> {
> 
> if(layerpalette.isVisible){
> 
> layerpalette.hide
> 
> }else(layerpalette.show)
> 
> }
> 
> 
> I mean can I access the interface and control it through scripts? The idea
> of the “script” above is to build a toggle to hide and show the layer
> palette by pressing the f7 key.
> 
> 
> Another example:
> 
> if(keypressed=f3){if(activelayer.layermask.exists){activelayer.layermask.select}else{activelayer.layermask.add}
> }
> 
> If the f3 key is pressed, if there is a layer mask on the active layer it
> should be activated and if not an empty layer mask should be added and
> activated.
> 
> 
> Is it possible to do things like that with the Gimp 2.8x?
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> John
>  
> 
> http://johnsmithimages.net
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[Gimp-user] Controlling the interface through scripts

[John Smith]

Hello everybody,


I am considering moving from Photoshop to The Gimp entirely.

I found answers for most of my concerns but there is still one point that
worries me.


Am I able to write scripts doing something like below.

if (keypressed=f7)

{

if(layerpalette.isVisible){

layerpalette.hide

}else(layerpalette.show)

}


I mean can I access the interface and control it through scripts? The idea
of the “script” above is to build a toggle to hide and show the layer
palette by pressing the f7 key.


Another example:

if(keypressed=f3){if(activelayer.layermask.exists){activelayer.layermask.select}else{activelayer.layermask.add}
}

If the f3 key is pressed, if there is a layer mask on the active layer it
should be activated and if not an empty layer mask should be added and
activated.


Is it possible to do things like that with the Gimp 2.8x?

Cordialement,

John
 

http://johnsmithimages.net
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