Re: [Gimp-user] Scan

2011-12-21 Thread Tom Cranston
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:27:22 -0500
Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> * Tom Cranston  [12-20-11
> 02:41]:
> > On earlier versions of Gimp, up to Ver 2.6.8 you can use
> > SCSI scanner. No fooling around getting drivers, etc.
> > 
> > I have been running Gimp on different versions of Linux.
> > That might be why I did not have too fool around hunting
> > down and installing drivers.
> > 
> > On 2.6.8, (Ubuntu 10.04)I can scan:
> > 
> > File - Create - XSane - Device dialog
> > 
> > On earlier Gimp versions it was:
> > 
> > File - Acquire - XSane - Device dialog
> > 
> > It might be a matter of semantics as to whether or not
> > Gimp does the scanning, but I have always been able to
> > start a scan w/SCSI from Gimps File Menu.
> 
> Not a matter of semantics but fact.  Gimp *can* interface
> with other programs to provide an interface for other
> functions, scanning.
> 
> But you have provided your *own* hint to the solution.
> Doesn't "XSane" in your examples give you a clue?
> Install xsane in your present distro and use the distro's
> setup application to setup your scanner.
> 
> Your lack of scanning ability probably stems from using a
> "LiveCD" which is space crippled/doesn't include xsane.
> 
> 
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Xsane is already installed in the distro, It can be
accessed via the command line:

sane-find-scanner 

Gimp 2.6.11 however does not list it under it's menu
options like it used to.

I was using the live CD because I wanted see if I liked the
distro. I did not want to go to the trouble of installing
it  only to find that I did not like it.

I was able to run the scanner from an older version of Gimp
on another live distro (Knoppix)

Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Cranston
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:06:22 -0500
Kevin Horkan  wrote:

> I've tried some research on this subject but have come up
> with little definitive information.  I'm new to gimp,
> have used photoshop some, and am new to the iMac and OSx
> operating system.  As a photographer moving from prosumer
> to professional (hopefully), I am wondering about the
> quality differences between gimp and photoshop,
> especially in the bit rate area.  If the bit rates make a
> difference to the quality of the finished product
> (especially prints), will gimp be going to higher bit
> rates, and will this include the mac version?  Thanks for
> the help.
> 
> 
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> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> >   1.  Gimp For Lion? (Jacob Gorneau)
> >   2. Re:  Gimp For Lion? (Michael Natterer)
> >   3. Re:  Splash Image (Alexandre Prokoudine)
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:22:14 -0500
> > From: Jacob Gorneau 
> > To: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org"
> >  Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp
> > For Lion? Message-ID:
> > <63f0e97b-91a1-4ec6-97f4-a5ee53ebd...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the OS
> > X Lion. I am interested in your GIMP program, and was
> > wondering if you were coming out with a GIMP for the
> > Lion. If not, can I still work with and export photos
> > from the Snow Leopard GIMP? Thanks, Jacob 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:24:30 +0100
> > From: Michael Natterer 
> > To: Jacob Gorneau 
> > Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org"
> >  Subject: Re: [Gimp-user]
> > Gimp For Lion? Message-ID:
> > <1324157070.32591.11.camel@localhost> Content-Type:
> > text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > 
> > On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:22 -0500, Jacob Gorneau wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the
> >> OS X Lion. I am interested in your GIMP program, and
> >> was wondering if you were coming out with a GIMP for
> >> the Lion. If not, can I still work with and export
> >> photos from the Snow Leopard GIMP? Thanks, Jacob 
> > 
> > If you get very latest pango, gtk+ and gimp
> > (preferrably git master of all of them), it works
> > really well on lion. We usually don't do installable
> > binaries, unless somebody steps forward and does it.
> > 
> > As a general note (not to you), I hope that whoever
> > decides to package gimp as an app bundle this time does
> > is in cooperation with the developers, and doesn't just
> > patch it up, dump the patches on some unrelated
> > sourceforge project, and provides a bundle to download.
> > 
> > The way the windows packages are done works without
> > *any* patches to the source, because the packager hangs
> > out on irc and is an upstream developer, whatever gimp
> > needs to be packaged on windows is simply in upstream
> > git.
> > 
> > I'm writing this here on gimp-user not to insult or
> > antagonize the people who have packaged gimp for mac in
> > the past, but only so that everybody can read it:
> > please, come to irc/mailing list/bugzilla and tell what
> > patches you need to make gimp properly relocatable,
> > bundleable, whatever, and we can work together to get
> > it upstreamed.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > --mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:42:24 +0400
> > From: Alexandre Prokoudine
> >  To:
> > gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user]
> > Splash Image Message-ID:
> >  > +rfkupwd5djguq...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type:
> > text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Madeleine Fisher wrote:
> >> I was just reading the list of tasks left on
> >> developing GIMP 2.8 and one of them was "Decide on a
> >> splash image." Is this open for submissions or are
> >> they just trying to pick one from the entries they
> >> already have?
> > 
> > Hi Madeleine,
> > 
> > Yes, we are interested to have a choice of potential
> > splash screens from. It's probably too late to have a
> > real contestof some sort, but the more variants we
> > have, the better choice we can make :)
> > 
> > Alexandre Prokoudine
> > http://libregraphicsworld.org
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > 

Re: [Gimp-user] Scan

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Cranston
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:55:06 +
R Kimber  wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:25:44 -0600
> Tom Cranston wrote:
> 
> > XSane, comes installed w/Xubuntu 11.10. The problem is
> > that Gimp 2.6.11 does not refer to it from it's menu as
> > it used to do. I found it has to be accessed via the
> > command line:
> > 
> > sane-find-scanner
> 
> I have Gimp 2.6.11 and Xubuntu 11.10 and Xsane is in the
> menu under File->Create
> 
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Does not appear on mine

Create ->
>From Clipboard
Screenshot
(Blank)
Buttons 
Logos
Patterns
Web Page Themes

Might be because as I already stated that I am running Live
CD. 

I am loath to install just to find it no workie.

Will look for a throw down HDD to install on for a test to
see if XSane appears under create. I suspect it will appear
in the blank space noted above.

Tom

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Re: [Gimp-user] Scan

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Cranston
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:55:03 +0100
rich  wrote:

> >Hi
> 
> >How do I get Gimp 2.6.11 to work w/my SCSI scanner? I am
> >presently running Xubuntu 11.10 Live CD. CentOS 5 s
> >installed on my HDD. It's version of Gimp runs my SCSI
> >scanner.
> 
> >Do I need to download XSANE?
> 
> FWIW: I do not think you will get it working from a live
> CD.
> 
> First stop is to check the sane database
> 
> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=&model=&bus=scsi&v=&p=
> 
> If your scanner is supported then you will need to
> install xsane from your distribution repo.
> 
> Next step, Gimp needs a  xsane-gimp plugin.  Seems to be
> one for CentOS, bound to be one for Ubuntu.
> 
>  
> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/8078537/com/xsane-gimp-0.991-5.el5.i386.rpm.html
> 
> All being well, there is a menu entry in Gimp: 'File' ->
> 'Create' -> 'Xsane' which calls xsane for scanning and
> passes the result back to Gimp.
> 
> 
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Hi

XSane, comes installed w/Xubuntu 11.10. The problem is that
Gimp 2.6.11 does not refer to it from it's menu as it used
to do. I found it has to be accessed via the command line:

sane-find-scanner

Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scan

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Cranston
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:54:47 -0500
Frank Gore  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Tom Cranston
>  wrote:
> > How do I get Gimp 2.6.11 to work w/my SCSI scanner? I am
> > presently running Xubuntu 11.10 Live CD. CentOS 5 s
> > installed on my HDD. It's version of Gimp runs my SCSI
> > scanner.
> 
> I'm pretty sure Gimp doesn't do any scanning. You need to
> use an external software to scan, then save as an image,
> and open that image with Gimp. Xsane works fine for this,
> I've used it many times. But first you need to get the
> scanner setup under Ubuntu (xsane doesn't load scanner
> drivers for you). Good luck finding the proper driver for
> a SCSI scanner. But that discussion is way outside the
> scope of Gimp.
> 
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On earlier versions of Gimp, up to Ver 2.6.8 you can use
SCSI scanner. No fooling around getting drivers, etc.

I have been running Gimp on different versions of Linux.
That might be why I did not have too fool around hunting
down and installing drivers.

On 2.6.8, (Ubuntu 10.04)I can scan:

File - Create - XSane - Device dialog

On earlier Gimp versions it was:

File - Acquire - XSane - Device dialog

It might be a matter of semantics as to whether or not Gimp
does the scanning, but I have always been able to start a
scan w/SCSI from Gimps File Menu.

Tom
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[Gimp-user] Scan

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Cranston
Hi

How do I get Gimp 2.6.11 to work w/my SCSI scanner? I am
presently running Xubuntu 11.10 Live CD. CentOS 5 s
installed on my HDD. It's version of Gimp runs my SCSI
scanner.

Do I need to download XSANE?
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