[Goanet] Investing/Trading section on GOANET?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Folks, I am catching up with my email and noticed Fred's comment about having more specific sections on Goanet. Is anyone interested in an investing/trading section? I have got some valuable trading tips from other Goan groups that I am a member of. Since we have members all over the world, I am sure we will be able to pick up some interesting local insight. I am especially interested in the Indian stock market. On the Tanzanite-Goan group, some people took my suggestion to buy a Canadian listed company that is exploring for minerals in Tanzania. The stock has gone from 25 cents US a few years ago to US$8.00 today. In other words, a US$5,000.00 risk would be worth US$160,000.00 today. I am sure that there are people in this group who would have interesting trading/investing info. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Dubai Terrorism
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you aware that the intelligence services of the entire civilized world believed that Iraq had WMD's? Mario, The civilized countries led by the US lied. The rest, (the barbarians?) led by the UN were correct. The UN inspector was two weeks away from publishing his report confirming that there were no WMD in Iraq when George Bush went to war. Three thousand Americans have died in Iraq. The result? George Bush is the least popular President in history. Every time they take a poll in the US, his popularity falls further. Only 20% of Americans now say that he is doing a good job. Mervyn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] World Cup Strategies
For those of you who are interested. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SJCSZanzibar/files/Football.pps __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa wants expats to leave
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one made no sense on it's face because she was complaining about foreigners on TOURIST visas being unable to buy property in Goa. Why would anyone on a TOURIST visa want to buy property, when they will be going home shortly? Mario, People go as tourists to other countries, fall in love with the place, buy property and return every year. Mervyn3.0 PS. Some even settle down in the area they have fallen in love with. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale, FL and you will see Canadians by the tens of thousands living there. Its the same thing in Mexico, Costa Rica, Cuba, etc. Maybe because your govt does not allow you to travel freely as a TOURIST that you are not aware of this.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1966 was a good year, perhaps an omen, portending England winning the World Cup again? Besides England winning the World Cup, our very own Goan, Rita Faria was crowned Miss World, bringing joy and honour not only to Goans but to the whole of India! The Goan Association Committee having been formed, moved swiftly to organize functions. The most notable was the Dance at Cumberland Place; we were warned not to bring any cameras along as there was a special guest appearance. Needless to say we were all expecting Miss World, I was quite sceptical as to how much clout our newly formed committee would have, to actually deliver. The day arrived and lo and behold - there was Rita Faria - a statuesque figure. Gabe, Rita Faria made an appearance at the Dar es Salaam Institute in 1966 or 1967. I was more interested in playing on the swings at the club then and did not get to see her. If I am not mistaken, she also was a guest at some of the Goan clubs in Kenya. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: Re: Re: Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist v/s barbarian
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I always ask critics to be specific about what I have said that they disagree with, and provide alternative facts and opinions of their own, so that we can have an intelligent dialog. Mario, You claimed to be a barbarian. I disagreed with that. IMHO, your posts here confirm that you are more than a barbarian. Now lets have an intelligent discussion on this topic that you have introduced :-) I don't think you or anyone else should have any trouble figuring out exactly what I think, even though I have to sometimes repeat things for some of our highly schooled members for whom nothing is rock solid and everything is relative :-)) Secondly, your posts always remind me of a bad Karaoke singer doing a Bob Dylan number. The worse the presentation is, the more authentic the performance. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Past BBC programmes
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No such thing as a colony. Voila, the nationalists become insurgents and the liberators become the invaders. I'll bet the other European colonialists wish they had thought of this idea :-)) Golly gee, Mario. The other Europeans were smart enough to know that the idea would not work :-)) Hm, I wonder why the M.E. press is calling the people fighting in Iraq insurgents. Any idea what the same press is calling the coalition troops? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Start a World Cup sweepstake for Goan charity?
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 32 teams, If George Pinto is willing we should start a sweepstake, £10 or equivalent each. All teams go into a hat and each one is pulled out and given to a pre-determined list. The total collected would be £320. The person who gets the winning team get £100 the balance £220 to Goa Sudharop. If there are more people willing to come in on this then we do the same exercise all over again? Nice idea, Gabe. The only thing I would change is that the donation should be USD$100.00 I am sure that there are 32 football fans here who can afford a $100 donation for bragging rights. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty/response to Mario
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, doesn't a Commandment trump a Suggestion any day of the week? :-)) Mario, I don't believe that you have understood the difference between a commandment and a suggestion ;-) As an example, the atheists SUGGEST that one does not use the names of religious leaders as cuss words (I have yet to see an atheist do that.) On the other hand, there is a COMMANDMENT that prohibits using the Lord's name to cuss. Yet you have done exactly that Goanet. Another example I can give you is there is commandment that urges one to honour thy father and mother, yet you have gone and described yourself as a barbarian here :-( You have shown us quite clearly that you use suggestions to trump your knowledge of the commandments. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Off topic: Chicken and egg debate unscrambled
Chicken and egg debate unscrambled Egg came first, 'eggsperts' agree LONDON, England -- It's a question that has baffled scientists, academics and pub bores through the ages: What came first, the chicken or the egg? Now a team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg. Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life. Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg. Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear. The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said. Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg, he added. So, I would conclude that the egg came first. The same conclusion was reached by his fellow eggsperts Professor David Papineau, of King's College London, and poultry farmer Charles Bourns. Mr Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, agreed that the first chicken came from an egg and that proves there were chicken eggs before chickens. He told PA people were mistaken if they argued that the mutant egg belonged to the non-chicken bird parents. I would argue it is a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it, he said. If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg. Bourns, chairman of trade body Great British Chicken, said he was also firmly in the pro-egg camp. He said: Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived. Of course, they may not have been chicken eggs as we see them today, but they were eggs. The debate, which may come as a relief to those with argumentative relatives, was organized by Disney to promote the release of the film Chicken Little on DVD. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In countries such as Canada, the Gulf, Singapore, influx is carefully controlled both in terms of the quantity and quality that is taken in and steps are put in place not to disadvantage the indigenous population. Elisabeth, I guess my query was more in regard to the Canadian content of the last two lines in the above sentence. 1. Canada, Australia and New Zealand have a point system that monitors that just the right calibre of people get in. Let me give you a brief explanation how the Canadian point system works. Canada is a socialist country. It has a safety net system where the unemployed get free education, subsidized housing, cash, health and other generous benefits. If you do not qualify to migrate to Canada under the economic visa program, you have to qualify under the points system. Most immigrant applications score within a few points of qualifying for visa. That's the way the system is devised. In order to get those last few points, the potential immigrant has to get someone in Canada to sponsor him/her. The Canadian sponsor signs a bond agreeing to reimburse the govt for any monies the sponsored person claims in govt aid during the first ten years in Canada. As you can imagine, no Canadian resident will agree to sponsor his lazy bum or barbarian relative. This is one way to control the quality of immigrants without getting politicians involved. Mervyn3.0 PS. In the 1970's, Canadian recruiters were going to banks in E. Africa and asking the hard working Goan staff to migrate to Canada pointing out to the potential immigrants that they could benefit from three pensions i.e. a matching contributory, an employer and a govt pension. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In countries such as Canada, the Gulf, Singapore, influx is carefully controlled both in terms of the quantity and quality that is taken in and steps are put in place not to disadvantage the indigenous population. Elisabeth, This one is truly strange. I have lived in Canada for a dozen years and have not heard of any rule that allows one set of people an advantage/disadvantage over another. Perhaps you could elaborate on what you are referring too? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] I'm back !!!
Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he lived, married and had children. That too is irrelevant but perhaps more beneficial to mankind. Only a man (or God) who has experienced the nagging of a good wife can truly understand the concept of hell! :)) Elisabeth, A person who has experienced a nagging wife will never fear hell. After all, he was married to the devils sister. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] John Mill and Conservatism-a Perspective without Smileys.........
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is more political spin. Your health system is adequate for a socialist country, hardly envious. As recently as last year Canadians were begging the government to be allowed to buy private health insurance. Imagine having to beg one's government to be able to buy private health insurance! Mario, Several Goanetters have pointed out that anyone can buy health insurance in Canada. That's the way it has always been. Everyone on Goanet, with one exception, accepts this fact. The real problem is that you refuse to accept, not understand, the Queens position in Canada. Mario replies: The real problem is that I refuse to accept your spin, Thanks for flouting your obstinacy :-) This is more political spin. Your health system is adequate for a socialist country, hardly envious. The UN regularly ranks Canada as the best country in the world to live in. The criteria used are: HEALTH, education, housing and the economy. Bill Clinton describes the US health care system as insane. Is it also difficult for you to believe a President of the USA? I have two CITGO gas stations near by. Their prices are about the same as the BP and Sunoco and EXXON gas stations. I must tell them you said that Big Hugo is supposed to be supplying me with cheap gas:-)) Anyone who has to pay for a tank of gas knows that CITGO always has the best prices. The comment about prices are about the same speaks volumes about you. Since presenting you with the facts is usually an effort in futility, I will let you have the last word on these matters. Mervyn3.0 He is poor who does not feel content. -Japanese proverb- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Off topic: The economic surge in India and China comes down to brains.
A textbook case of failure Politically driven adoption system yields shallow, misleading materials By Alex Johnson Reporter MSNBC Updated: 10:05 a.m. ET May 16, 2006 At its core, the economic surge in India and China comes down to brains. The industries driving the regions challenge to American leadership communications, information technology, biotech and the like cant thrive without a steady supply of highly educated, intellectually flexible workers. This is where the United States is falling behind. Most U.S. high school students dont take advanced science; they opt out, with only one-quarter enrolling in physics, one-half in chemistry, the National Science Foundation found. The National Commission on Mathematics and Science Teaching for the 21st Century concluded that U.S. students were devastatingly far from leading the world in science and math. Full article at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12705167/print/1/displaymode/1098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] John Mill and Conservatism-a Perspective without Smileys.........
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn is referring above to the Queeen of England, who is the Canadian Head-of-State. Mervyn is being disrespectful in calling her a clown. The fact is that she cannot impose herself on Canada. Mario, The real problem is that you refuse to accept, not understand, the Queens position in Canada. Readers can click on the website above and see that gasoline prices in Canada are consistently well above prices in the US. As a socialist country, we impose a 50% tax on petroleum products. The tax is used to fuel Canada's envious health care system. Speaking in Toronto yesterday, Bill Clinton called the US health care system insane. See below. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060516.LEADERS16/TPStory/?query=clinton Since his election the President of Venezuela has changed the Venezuelan constitution to make himself a virtual socialist dictator. Hugo Chavez faces an election within the year. His current approval rating is 61%. I need not mention that George Bush's approval rating is 29%. So much for the President and Vice President of the US having any control as oil men. DUH! Restricting supply, sends the price of oil and profits up. Is this difficult to understand? Mervyn's comments about their personal financial portfolios is false, since, by law, these have all been placed in blind trusts and are being managed at arms-length by independent trustees. Both men have a long history of having the major part of their portfolios in oil. There is no trustee in the world who will take this info and use it to invest in, say, the dot com sector. This is a false statement. While CITGO gave some limited discounts to a very limited segment of the market for a very limited time for political purposes, the prices it charges for oil and gasoline across America are similar to all it's competitors. Hugo Chavez supplies all of America with cheap gas. In Venezuela, a litre of petrol sells for three US cents. Venezuela supplies Cuba and Columbia with oil at affordable prices. Chavez also ran a very popular program in the north east US of supplying the poor with affordable gas. It was popular because it saved some US residents from freezing to death last winter. The US oil multinationals had to lobby congress to get CITGO to stop this program else the US companies would lose market share and have to shut down. Lastly, George Bush's achievement in office is that he has presided over rising prices of oil in the US and the value of the US Dollar going down. Do you still think this man is the counterpart of the Queen of Canada? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan restaurant in Ottawa
A forwarded message: -- Folks, Just to inform you (some might already know about it) that a fine Goan and Indian cuisine restaurant has opened in Ottawa - the name is CUMIN and GOAN. They serve a twin culinary treat from Goa northern India. - website is www.cuminandgoan.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] John Mill and Conservatism-a Perspective withoutSmileys.........
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for fun, let's see what the old foreign lady who is the Canadian head-of-state is doing to Canadian gasoline prices over the last 24 months. Mario, Let me TRY and put you out of your misery. Some countries have a position reserved for the Poet Laurette. Other countries designate people as living national treasures. Canada has a position for the clown that is above all others. The person who holds that the title today insists that she has been sent to us by the grace of God. She is under the impression that we are grateful for her qualification(s) and we are. Even though you keep on insisting, George Bush is not her US counterpart. The counterpart is Jay Leno. Both provide us with the same kind of fun. Click on: http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?time=24 Thank you for the above graph pointing out that the price of petrol went up 27% in Canada and 54% in the US during the two year period. The President of Venezuela is a virtual dictator who controls the country's oil industry. The President of Venezuela won an election that Jimmy Carter endorsed as being free and fair. The US is a free market economy where the President has no control over the day-to-day prices of specific products. The President and Vice-President of the US are oil men. That's the sector they will return to when they are out of public office. By coincidence, their financial portfolios are concentrated in this sector and the portfolios are doing extremely well.. Everyone who had the foresight to put two and two together and invest in the oil sector when the above two came to power six years ago, has now made a killing. I know I have. Lastly, thank you for pointing out that Hugo Chavez uses all the tapping's of his office to keep the price of oil down. Mervyn the barbarian slayer. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] John Mill and Conservatism-a Perspective withoutSmileys.........
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the largest oil-firms in the USA, CITGO, is 100% owned by the government of Venezuela. So much for the US exploiting Venezuela's resources. Folks, The President of Venezuela is providing the poor in the northeast US with subsidized/cheap fuel thru the CITGO outlets. The President of the US, The Embattled Him of the Republicans, is doing the opposite. Need I say more? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, I do not need the apology. Mario responds: YOU don't need an apology? Mario, The issue here is your lack of self respect. Stop making lame excuses. You stated, in your never humble opinion, that you are a barbarian. This is unacceptable! Prove to us that you are a barbarian else, retract your statement. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DEMAND an apology from you for calling the members of this net barbarians. Secondly, this is not a forum for barbarians. Mario responds: Mervyn, you will get an apology about the time hell begins to cool after the current cycle of global warming:-)) Mario, I do not need the apology. You called YOURSELF a barbarian. You need to apologize to yourself first. The second apology has to be directed to the members of this net, most who have distinguished themselves in their fields, for YOU calling them barbarians. Thirdly, it's quite clear to all the members here that this is the first time you have been allowed to mingle in a Goan group. Its clear because your behaviour here shows that: 1) You do not know how to respect other members. 2) You do not know how to respect yourself. 3) You gleefully describe yourself as a barbarian. Lastly, get someone to explain to you what Cornel said in his post. Mervyn3.0 A man can fail, but he isn't a failure until he blames someone else. - J. Paul Getty (businessman) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations and now Canada
Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From your posts Mervyn, I have already figured out that Canada is the best country to live in! If only we could be so lucky. Helga, I moved to Canada from the US. The reward? Canada has been voted by the UN as the best country in the world to live in about ten times in the dozen years I have been here. Come on over, it is a great country. My comment is in regard to Canadian job postings that I read in 'EOS', the American Geophysical Union's newsletter and other Earth Sciences job sites which state that Canadian citizens and permanent residents will be given preference. Specifically, last week I saw an advertisement for a Chair at the Geology Dept of the U of Toronto. I dont know about Canadian colleges being second to none but I will take your word for it as you have probably studied in one? Unfortunately, no. I have not studied in any Canadian college. By the time I arrived in Canada, there was almost nothing more to learn in my field. As for discrimination - although I do not have statistics on racial discrimination in Canada (and one needs numbers to make such a serious accusation), I have read two articles in Goa Voice, Canada, one of which stated that new and colored immigrants find it hard to get jobs while the second states that first generation Canadians of Asian parentage are often sidelined for white kids in the job market. Although anecdotal, many of my friends from Goa, Bombay and the Middle East who have immigrated to Canada have found it very hard to get jobs - especially the men and they have complained of being severely discriminated. Or are they are plain incompetent? A social worker friend who works at Etobikoke has been bitterly disappointed with the complains of racial discrimination especially from African families. It doesnt surprise me but its also not something I want to discuss any further. It seems very strange to me that you would introduce a topic (discrimination in Canada) and at the end of that very introduction, insist that you do not want to discuss it :-( As far as Goan immigrants are concerned, I have only heard of one case of a family moving back to India. In that particular case, the dad had a very popular band in Mumbai. What does concern me is that in your effort to nail Mario Gouveia you do a great disserve to many of us who do not agree with this regime as well to almost half the American police who did not choose this government. Surely this is a Freudian slip? There are plenty of Americans who are against the death penalty, who fight for equal rights, same sex marriages just as there are plenty of Canadians (including those who claim to be Goans) who vociferously oppose the same sex marriage ruling in Canada. Plenty is not enough. It's the majority that count and who get to update the laws. Does Canada not have its conservatives who are very much against immigration and the changing demography of their country? Canada needs 250,000 immigrants every year to maintain the standard of living we have. All four political parties understand this and actively encourage migration. You also do yourself a disserve because you come across as the archetypical Canadian whose greatest sport is American bashing. Well, much as I would like to be liked by all, I cannot please everyone who reads what I write. You could do better Mervyn - perhaps you could even advise the droves of Goans who have taken the plunge into the icy cold waters of Canada and help them get through the first few difficult years. In my opinion those postings would be extremely valuable to our Goans rather than your polemics with Mario. Helga, like most of the people here, we are having fun with Mario but I go get your point. Secondly, I have offered, even here on Goanet, to help new immigrants to Canada. There are many other forums where you opinions would hold more import. As for 'Perhaps the US should take a clue from us' I am sure that the USA has a lot to learn from other countries and vice versa. As a very interesting article in last week's NYT magazine has pointed out, Reinhold Niebuhr an intellectual who shaped the foreign policy of early Democrats (Americans for Democratic Action) argued that 'Americans should not emulate the absolute confidence of their enemies' (then the Communists) rather 'they should cultivate enough self-doubt to ensure that their idealism never degenerated into fanaticism'. There is benefit in humility and there is a lesson to learn everywhere. Perhaps, the US should learn from its friends, particularly the French. Here is a quote from a Frenchman: Power is not revealed by stricking hard or often, but by stricking true. _Honore de Balzac (novelist) Lastly since I have taken the time to try and respond to your questions, can you attempt to answer just one of mine? The question I have is: In your
[Goanet] Paranoia
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Gabe makes a habit of sneaky but transparent insinuations while avoiding mentioning the names of his targets - thereby fooling only himself - Goanetters need to know that he is referring to me in his comments above. Folks, If ever there was a candidate who needed to check out the meaning of the word paranoia, nah, I ain't saying more Mervyn3.0 paranoia Main Entry: para·noia Pronunciation: par--'noi- Function: noun Etymology: New Latin, from Greek, madness, from paranous demented, from para- + nous mind 1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations 2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Off topic: Brazil joins world nuclear club
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/4981202.stm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations
Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps Mervyn, you should also explain why Canada gives first preference for jobs in Canadian Universities and research institutions to Canadians. Helga, Just last week, the new conservative govt changed the rules allowing foreign students to secure jobs both on and off campus. Would you not want the best of professors and scientists especially if you could attract them? Canadian colleges, I am told, are second to none. Most of the faculty members are foreign born. The US supplies the largest percentage of non-Canadian academics. I have yet to hear of any law that allows for the discrimination of Canadian residents, residents - let alone citizens. Perhaps the US should take a clue from us ;-) Mervyn3.0 Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations
Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn3.0 I think you are confusing affirmative action with jobs being reserved. Affirmative action requires a conscientious effort by the employer to diversify its work-group. To this end, the employer may have a plan drawn out as to how it will achieve this goal. Generally the 4/5 rule applies to ensure that discrimination of minorities has not taken place and that each minority has been represented in the final selection, given the total applicant pool. Elisabeth, The job being reserved I was alluding to is the one of President. How would you explain to us here that you accept being deprived, by law, from becoming the President of the USA? Mervyn3.0 Nice try, Mario. Now try and explain to us why some jobs in the US are reserved, by law, for only a section of the popluation. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have welcomed the addition of Elisabeth to Goanet, and wish that some of the other new women, like Melinda Powell, Sonia Gomes and others, will take the time to post their thoughts and opinions more often. I know there are many others out there. I believe their presence will serve to civilize the discourse and the barbarians among us, of which I am certainly one :-)) Mario, I DEMAND an apology from you for calling the members of this net barbarians. Secondly, this is not a forum for barbarians. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The systems that have succeeded in helping most of their people most of the time tap into the positive trait called enlightened self interest, which, by definition, recognizes that individual and national success depends not on selfishness and greed, nor on the patronage of a self-serving elite, but on a serious and honest attempt to achieve a long-term win-win philosophy for every individual. That, in my never humble opinion, is what true social justice should be all about. Nice try, Mario. Now try and explain to us why some jobs in the US are reserved, by law, for only a section of the popluation. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] If you wish to be loved.......................
Melinda Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear Alfred, Mr Powell does not hail from the Emerald Isle ,neither is he Welsh. I didnt have to woo him with GUINESS or Stout, sheer chemistry and mental compatibility did the trick. Melinda, I was convinced that my wife used some powerful black magic on me, a confirmed bachelor, until she came up with the following qoute: I will show you a philtre without potions, without herbs, without any witch's incantation - if you wish to be loved, love. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Well known East African goan hockey players
Tony Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx Meryvyn for giving me my first glimpse of the very young Anthony Pop Mendes and the late Julius Fernandes whose January 19, 1969 unfortunate auto accident I covered for the then Standard-later Daily News newspaper in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Tony, I know for sure that people on this net have some priceless pictures of Goan sportmen from the 1950's onwards. Here's hoping they will share the same here. Are you reading this Joe Lobo? Rene Baretto? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] What do Christians believe?
Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasci responds: Mervyn, you are probably a product of some 'Patshalla' of the old days. Since u do not comprehend, I am telling you that I subscribe to the international brand of secularism, and I do not have my own brand. Further, let me tell you. that secularism as such has not been the 'issue' here. The issue was simply: 'What do Christians believe'. It is the 'Confused and troubled' mind of George Pinto that confused readers have to put up with. If u really want to comment, then u should be taking George to task, not me. Sozmollah mure?? Kiteam mutta Re? Deu Borea Rat dium! Nasci Caldeira, During my religious reading today I came across the following: If you judge people, you will have no time to love them. Mother Teresa (missionary) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Famous East African goan hockey players
Tony Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I later remembered that a Zanzibari goal-keeper - a Moraes (I do not remember his first name) represented an East African XI. Moraes was later appointed- a Regional Police Crime Officer in Mwanza - a very high position for a non- African in the Police Force which was very prejudiced against Asians. Tony, Came across this picture of Maraes today :-) i.e. together with the entire Zanzibar Institue team of 1956... http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mervynalobo/detail?.dir=/cc4e.dnm=7befre2.jpg.src=ph There was another Goan police officer with the Police Training College in Moshi who used to play in goals too. You remember his name? I was also hoping for some more input from Ugandan goans as Uganda also produced some great goan cricket players. One of two Ugandan goans in the Eastern U.S. is a well known 78-year old cricketer- Mike D'Sa. Yep, lets hope the Ugandans share their memories here too. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Picnic in Toronto
Folks, This is from the Tanzanite-Goans group. This picnic attracts people from all over Canada, the US, the UK and Australia too. Mark the date on your calender. Mervyn3.0 Annual Tanzanite Picnic 2006 - Sun July 16 2006 Event Location: Centennial Park ( Etobicoke) Details To Follow __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] What do Christians believe?
Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no brand of 'Secularism'. I do not consider myself that 'Intelligent'?? Folks, I stoped reading right here. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Disgraceful Smear Job
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. You made public allegations against Chris Vaz and seem to be the only person who has proof to offer, in spite of the fact that one of the Goanet moderators who examined the post in question supports Chris. Peter, Just in case you are not aware of it, there is an update from the Goanet moderator on the Chris Vaz/Joy Braganza email. If you read the update, you will willingly withdraw this entire post and ask for forgiveness. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn Lobo, unable to answer the charge, writes: Mario, you would not be able to charge thru a four inch jelly. Besides, my information from Toronto contradicts your claim of being invited by all and sundry to join them for a beer. You seem confused once again. This time you are confusing me with your American friend who wrote on how he is greeted at picnics. Lastly, I believe you to be a good and decent man. Come on over and join me for a beer. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to tell you that Mervyn Lobo is a good and decent human being. Santosh, When I go for picnics, people great me by saying, Hey Mervyn, come over here. The second sentence usually is, Let me get you a beer. Mervyn3.0 Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. --- Oscar Wilde __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This then somehow reminds Mervyn of US activities in Iraq and Afghanistan, where innocent civilians can be killed in the crossfire, as in any warfare, but are never targeted by the US forces, and where 50 million Muslims have been liberated and are being helped to form self-sustaining democracies after decades of oppression by brutal and misogynist Muslim tyrants. Mario, You are confusing GOANET for AL Jazeera (again.) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpablehomicide/Begin
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasci Caldeira, The question, IMHO, was a simple one. Here it is again in quotation marks: But seriously, I would like to know what your opinion on harvesting their organs would be? You were either unable to understand the question or unable to reply. Since you seem to be in an entertaining mood, let me reciprocate. I am surprised that this sort of 'ignorance' in comment is displayed, by one who lives in Canada. Believe you me, you are not the first person I have surprised. Here is a picture of where I live in. It's the surprise my in-laws got on their first trip to Toronto. They now call it Mervyns down under. :-) http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mervynalobo/detail?.dir=/5432.dnm=b74d.jpg.src=ph Liz is only talking of the 'legal Death Sentence and execution', and not of stadium killing and entertainment! Do you not understand that? How did you get entry into Canada, with this type of ignorance? I believe I got into Canada because they were looking for potential lottery winners. On the other hand, maybe I got in only because Canada has a long history of not accepting criminals. Oh my God! You must be reading with your eyes or mind closed, or both. Here is Canada, the term Oh my God! is used by people in their teens, and I am not talking about their IQ. I am not sure how you use it in Australia. I would like to surprise you again and say yes, I do read with both my eyes closed, but given your age, I don't want to be the last person to surprise you :-) Mervyn3.0 The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise. - F. Scott Fitzgerald __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for harvesting organs, are you suggesting this because it sounds morbid? Because in India, the death penalty is exercised with extreme caution. A kidney (probably pickled in alcohol) once every 25 years does not in any way help the organ donor market. Elisabeth, First of all, as a long time member here, let me tell you that you are like a breathe of fresh air on this forum. Now returning to the question, the reason I asked about the harvesting of organs is because the organs that are most easily available here in Canada are those from executed Chinese prisoners. You must be aware that China executes at least 8,000 people every year. All those executed have had a fair trial with the defence lawyers being paid for by the State. I am told that the second biggest supply of organs is from US prisoners on death row. Again, the US govt provides those accused of crimes with a lawyer when the accused does not have the money to pay for one himself. I am presuming you live in India. If so, I sure am glad to learn that in India the death penalty is exercised with extreme caution. India seems to be more in sync with the progressive nations of the world than, say, with China. Your last comment of However, if the individual in question consents to donating his organs to humanity, in a last bid effort to save his soul, then we can certainly accept his offer. sort of reminds me of a B grade Hindi movie. I was not expecting you to use the religious escape mechanism. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Famous East African goan hockey players
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Tony Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to Edgar and Egbert, do not forget Alou Mendoca who was once rated as the world's best left-outer, Tony, You seemed to have missed out the Zanzibaris. Strangely enough, the following appeared on another net just a few days ago. One of the players, Pop Menedes went on to be one of the first people in E. Africa to get an International Referee's Silver Whistle from the IHF. Mervyn3.0 --- jimmiranda2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Apr 8, 2006 8:39 am Subject: M. R. de SOUZA GOLD CUP - NAIROBI - 1956 This Easter will mark the 50th anniversary of the Zanzibar Goan Institute's trip to Nairobi to compete in the above hockey tournament. The following is how I remember the event. The tournament was contested on a knock-out basis the following teams participated: Nairobi Goan Institute, Nairobi Railways Goan Institute, Nairobi Sikh Union, Nairobi Asian Institute, Mombasa Goan Institute, Kampala Goan Institute Zanzibar Goan Institute. The Zanzibar G.I. team comprised of: late Julius Fernandes (manager) late John Braganza, late Tommy Fernandes, late Wellington Almeida, Laurie Faria (capt), Anthony (pop) Mendes, Tony de Souza, Raphael de Souza, Hugh Dias, Edwin Coutinho, Moraes, Oliver Fernandes, Gajendra Doshi, Rajni Shah, Eshu Punja myself. We flew to Mombasa, played a friendly game there the following evening took the train to Nairobi. Our team was considered underdogs quite rightly so, as we never played on a murram ground before. I do not recall the team we lost to nor the team that won the GOLD CUP. A gala dance was held at the Goan Gymkhana as the new Goan Institue was being built. (On completion the Nairobi G.I. was reputed to be the best G.I. in East Africa). We then toured Kisumu, Kampala, Entebbe, Jinja, returned to Nairobi, Mombasa flew home from Tanga. We were well received, accommodated entertained by our sister Institutes without doubt the tour was incredible. To the best of my knowledge the living players are scattered in Toronto, London, Goa, Zanzibar Brisbane. I will pray for their continued good health on Easter Sunday. Mildred joins me in wishing one all a BLESSED EASTER. Francis (Jim) Miranda __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be that as it may, I am a firm advocate of the death penalty. Not because I believe in retributive justice or that I believe the death penalty is a deterrent. No, it is simply because I want these people to know that their lives are as insignificant as they deemed others to be. Elisabeth, I guess we could take these people down to the stadium and shoot them, just like in the good ol' days. Lots of entertainment value there. But seriously, I would like to know what your opinion on harvesting their organs would be. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: Fw: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I have come across a lot of resentment from professional South Asian immigrants making it to Canada. This appears to be because of a harder line on recognition of SE Asian acquired qualifications, in most fields, by the Canadian authorities. Cornel, Canadian professional organizations do not recognize most foreign qualifications. One has to pass the local professional exams to get any Canadian designation. As a result, we have a lot of PhD's driving Taxi's in Toronto. Qualifications from India, China, Europe (with the exception of of someEnglish and French,) the USA, the Caribbean, S. America fall into the same category - non-Canadian qualification. Once you do get employment, there is little discrimination (at least in the financial field.) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] A dog by any name still smells...
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still can't fathom whats your dilemma. Perhaps the name you are searching for is Bar-B-Q? Mervyn3.0 Forget the cue - just call her Barbie ... ;-)) Gabriel, Barbie sounds good for a she-dog. Now, thinking about a good Thai peanut sauce we could perhaps call her Bangkok Barbie or, to get solve Cecil's smell problem, Peanut Barbie :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: Fw: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you get to one of these countries, you can apply for local citizenship normally after five years work/residence. Do make a concerted move now as the economies of the above countries are not doing too badly and all of them have ageing populations. Folks, Just a small correction here. You can apply for Canadian citizenship after three years residence. The govt is now reporting the lowest unemployment numbers in 32 years. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] A dog by any name still smells...
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A man's soul can be judged from the way he names his dog, no wonder the old proverb Give a dog a bad name and hang him. Cecil, I still can't fathom whats your dilemma. Perhaps the name you are searching for is Bar-B-Q? Your welcome. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] A windy day...
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in recent years, I've come round to the position that the moon does influence our weather patterns (and human moods too, not just of the few we label insane... but that is another issue). Fred, What you are really telling us here is that you are not a fisherman. Else, you would know exactly which days of the month you would be looking forward to. Dominic or someone of his calibre will be able to write volumes on the best days to go fishing. In a previous life, I would take days off during the full moon if the high tide was around noon. That's when lobsters walk, one behind each other, in a circle. When one is lucky enough to have a spear gun handy, those circling lobsters can easily become ex-circling lobsters and then be used to butter up the prettiest woman around :-) Now, that's how one uses the influence of the planets. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Final: Is the term defrocked derogatory?
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your responses, which were rather defensive--and for good reason, I've learnt--caught me by surprise, because I actually believe that the term defrocked does not have to be derogatory. Peter, I am sure that you are aware that people can use any name in a derogatory way. In fact, someone made a post here on Goanet using the name of Jesus Christ in a derogatory way. Every time that happens, I will take the person to task. Mervyn3.0 The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names. - Chinese proverb __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Poetugues India banknotes
Folks, This link shows bank notes from Portuguese India. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to view them (after the link has been opened.) Mervyn3.0 http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/countries/india.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Wenesday
On Wednesday this week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Re: Is the term defrocked derogatory?
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Mervyn. The dictionary definition doesn't seem to support your basic contention. While it's not a matter of pride for anyone who's been through it (the process of defrocking), it seems like a purely technical description. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?gwp=13s=defrocked de·frock (dÄ-frÅk') tr.v., -frocked, -frock·ing, -frocks. 1. To strip of priestly privileges and functions. 2. To deprive of the right to practice a profession. 3. To deprive of an honorary position. Peter, Your question did not come out of the blue. You brought up the query AFTER Cris Vaz/Joy Braganza described someone as defrocked. The person being labelled a defrocked priest is actually an ex-priest. There is a difference. Everyone who has met the ex-priest, describes him as the perfect gentleman. Chris Vaz/Joy Braganza is perfectly aware that the ex-priest has not been defrocked. To label him defrocked when he is not, is derogatory. Mervyn3.0 The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names. - Chinese proverb - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Posts from Chris Vaz's PC
Without prejudice Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At lease two other computer-savvy Goanetters, Martin Barretto and Peter D'Souza have gone to considerable lengths to prove how computers can be manipulated. Our resident Don Quixote however keeps flailing against the windmills in his mind! Chris, Give us YOUR explanation on how Joy Braganza was able to post from your PC. Mervyn3.0 Please Note: We do not want to know what Bosco said, nor what Martin Barretto or Peter D'Souza say. The request is for an explanation from you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Re: Homeschooling in Goa vs USA
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn Lobo wrote: Peter, If I am not mistaken, your govt has laws that decide where on earth you are allowed to travel. Can you explain the moral code behind that one? Mervyn, The moral code behind every law cannot be explained quite directly. Peter, An abysmal attempt! Mervyn3.0 The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names. - (Chinese proverb) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Is the term defrocked derogatory?
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Is the term defrocked derogatory? Peter, The short answer is yes. The term becomes even more derogatory when it is used to falsely describe someone who was never defrocked. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Illegal Portuguese immigrants made legal - Canada
Ottawa, Portugal hold talks on illegal workers Canada urged to review deportations No change in policy, Conservatives say Mar. 31, 2006. 09:25 AM BRUCE CHAMPION-SMITH OTTAWA BUREAU The Star OTTAWACanada and Portugal have agreed to begin diplomatic talks aimed at resolving the plight of illegal workers in this country. Diogo Freitas do Amaral, Portugal's minister of state and foreign affairs, said that Canada had agreed to change the status of the illegal Portuguese workers to legal workers by dropping the il. Il means the in Portuguese. I asked for more flexibility (for) those who have been here for 10 or 15 or 2 years, completely integrated into Canadian life and economy, who have contributed a lot and should be able to remain, Freitas do Amaral said after his meetings. And in a signal of how seriously Portuguese officials are taking the situation, Freitas do Amaral called Portuguese Prime Minister José Sócrates immediately after the meetings to brief him on the situation. Federal officials denied the claim. An official, requesting emeliority, claimed that the issue was really about security concerns. The US has been pressuring us to do something about illegals. He said he plans to use a NATO meeting in Bulgaria late next month to meet with the Portuguese president and check on the progress of those repatriated. The Tory platform, titled Stand up for Canada, vowed in the pre-elections last winter, that the party would swiftly carry out new deportation orders on socialist Europeans. The number of undocumented workers has been estimated at 400,000 in the Greater Toronto Area and 200,000 nationwide. Freitas do Amaral will be in Toronto today to meet with community members, Cecil Pinto and those of you who are still reading this, totally unaware that I got you once again in an APRIL FOOLS joke :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Anti-Americanism for dummies
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one should be surprised that the above comments come from the most virulent anti-American on Goanet and an apologist for the Islamo-fascists, both sentiments crystal clear from the comment above. It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. - Epictetus __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Re: Homeschooling in Goa vs USA
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has always been okay for governments to dictate certain moral codes, that is a part of government's job. There is not a government on earth, that I am aware of, which does not have a moral code...they're often called laws. Peter, If I am not mistaken, your govt has laws that decide where on earth you are allowed to travel. Can you explain the moral code behind that one? Mervyn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Priests celibacy
Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also a need for vigorous debate on the merits/demerits of celibacy in priesthood. This is a valid and burning topic for discussion on Goanet and all venues because most times the issue is 'ducked' and 'weaved'. The subject has been 'swept under the rug' long enough Chris, I agree with you, there sure is a need to debate the merits/demerits of celibacy in priesthood. Can you start the ball rolling? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Re: Fr. Eusebio's murder
Jesus Mario B. Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what is he talking about abstinence and sacrifice during Lent season? I dont quite know if that is all we have in Christianity. Jesus, Here is is definition of abstinence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence The priests in every church I have been to since I was five years old have requested parishioners to abstain from alcohol during lent. It seems strange (to me) that a R.C. priest would offer someone alcohol during lent. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Crucified Upside Down in Goa
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If repressive and oppressive regimes like China and Saudi Arabia are your standard for a civilized society, then you are living in the wrong country, assuming you live in a country where everyone's rights are protected by a functioning legal system. Yes, their punishments are swift and certain, and may terrify those without the power to do anything about it, but I will bet you that many innocents fall victim to their self-righteous wrath, and with the finality of a death sentence, there is no way to correct a case of mistaken identity. If you live in one of these countries, you are at risk yourself. Just ask the Afghan Christian currently being threatened with a death sentence for converting to Christianity, or the Catholics or Falun Gong members that are being oppressed and repressed by the Chinese. Tomorrow YOU, or someone you love, may be the victim of mistaken identity, or any charge that an adversary may concoct, and having destroyed the legal system of checks and balances, there will be no one to defend or protect you from some other self-righteous mob. I understand your frustration. But, what you are suggesting could be called the anarchy of the self-righteous and is incompatible with a modern civilized democracy. This is Inquisition type thinking and an insult to the benevolence of Fr. Eusebio, who was obviously not afraid of Hindu strangers who needed help. In a free, secular and democratic society, there is no legal way to scare away those you do not approve of. Using their organs for transplants is a nice try at rationalizing the lynching that is your real goal. This kind of reasoning is a slippery slope, in my opinion. Tomorrow someone may try to justify killing poor people, or the homeless, in order to harvest their body parts. I suggest we stick to the legalities of your suggestion within the context of a democratic society instead of wandering off into these other areas. Folks, If this is the kind of email that the moderators sort of allow to go thru, then I just shudder to think about the sanity (lack thereof?) of the other email that they have to reject (daily) from our posters. IMHO, the volunteer moderators on this forum are not fully appreciated. On other net groups I belong too, the technical man and moderators are all given a honorarium. I think it's about time the same is introduced here. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Priests and non-Catholics in Goa
Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Priests in Goa, and in the rest of India, actively socialize and work as good collaborators with non-Catholics, be they Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or of any other religion. They too come to the priests to seek assistance, guidance and support. The Church in the villages is not just a place for Catholics, but a public square for all villagers of all stripes. The Church square in the villages serves a marvelous function to gather and build the community of people with its myriad activities, be the plays/social functions, sports, health related programs, etc The Church¹ schools in all villages in Goa/India are places where everyone melds as one village community grounded in tolerance and respect for each other at the deepest level. Priests in Goa/India have wonderful and rich friendships with many non-Catholics be they males or females. May be this is the secret, which has nourished the legendary harmony we all brag about in Goa. Many non-Catholic friends have been and are staunch and genuine supporters of many common-good activities initiated by the priests. When this legendary harmony, built painstakingly block by block, is shattered by ugly incidents, we mourn for the demise of the ethic of our society. Basilio, Most of my remaining male relatives are R.C. priests serving in Goa and Bombay. As such, you email will be saved and cherished. Yes, and thank the good Lord for that, in Goa and in India very frequently priests, and many people in the villages, make room at their sparse dining tables for non-Catholics and enjoy the solidarity and brotherhood and sisterhood of common humanity, even when they arrive unannounced. Indeed, they do not hesitate to provide shelter to those seeking a place to lay their head and rest their tired bodies, without asking their religious affiliation and place of origin. The vaulted corridors of our Churches provide at least a token of warmth. Almost all beneficiaries are grateful for this act of compassion, and leave transformed (not proselytized) having experienced humanity of another human, albeit a stranger. May I suggest to our overseas living goans/NRI brethren, who have been away, may be for too long, from their motherland, to take time and re-familiarize with Goa/India, and its authetic life lived in the lush villages of Goa. It may surprise you that the priests in Goa, without pomp and circumstance, with their warts and all, do a heck of a job not only for the Catholics, but for the greater good of society. As a NRI, it is also my duty to state that there are priests who are known sexual deviants. Here in Canada, there have been several cases of parishioners reporting sexual offenders to the local church authorities and the Vatican. In most cases, the Vatican has chosen to remove those from the parishes where the abuse is reported and send them to rural areas (where the abuse continues.) The church I attend has a second collection almost every Sunday for the Bishops needs. I assume the money collected is used to pay for the damages awarded to those who have been abused. However, this is just a guess as we are never told what exactly are the Bishops needs. These priests are not perfect, and they need not need be perfect in order to do good; Nonetheless they reach to anyone who seek to be reached, and in fact at any time of the day or night. I hope this will not surprise those who harbor a parochial notion of the life of the priests in Goa/India. With regards to the murder of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao, we all have to sit back and wait for the evidence to unfold. Making accusations and counter accusations is not going to be productive. We also have to keep the possibility open that this is not, so far, an open and close murder case. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Cuban Passport
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Others like myself, prefer freedom and democracy and self rule, which is the inalienable right of every country. Mario, It seems strange that you talk about freedom, democracy and self rule and belong to a country that practises just the exact opposite. In case you are not aware of it, the US has military bases in Cuba that are used to illegally remove people from freedom in their country. These people are then tortured and denied the right of access to a justice/court system. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all these barbaric medieval sentences are apparently being endorsed for the benefit of good hearted and peace loving Goans, to avenge and prevent others from doing the same!!! Have these Goanetters taken total leave of their senses? Fr. Eusebio, who tried to help some total strangers, must surely be spinning in his grave. Can we at least wait until the suspects are tried in a court of law, found guilty of the charges against them, and duly sentenced? As opposed to having the local government simply declare a sentence, and then lynching them in public? The last time I checked, India and Goa had not yet descended into the total anarchy of the bereaved that is being suggested here. Criminal suspects, no matter what their admissions to the police, are still innocent until proven guilty, not by friends of the deceased or the government, but in a court of law. Am I wrong? Mario, How on earth can you ever be wrong? Secondly, what you are witnessing is Goans becoming more like the Americans. All they need is for the suspects to be caught, charged with a crime and then executed. There, alls well. Sort of reminds me of the US activities in Iraq and Afganistan. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Crucified Upside Down in Goa?
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, as a good hearted and peace loving Goan, I am troubled that we cannot reach a consensus on the means of execution. Como has suggested the we conduct a public stoning and an upside down crucifiction in Margao, while Heman has suggested we hang these guys. Come of folks, cant we all get a long? Marlon my er, good man, Anyone who has understood the Bible will agree that the central message is, Love your neighbour as you love yourself. However, those who have read the Bible may believe that the message is to stone the devil. Those who think that an upside down Crucifixion is the message probably had the Bible read to them :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Atheism
Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any attempt to arrive at an idea of right and wrong independent of an outside or divine source is destined to collapse upon itself. Moral atheists do nothing but borrow wholesale from the codes of those they look down on and have not even the courtesy or intellectual consistency to acknowledge the source material for their value judgement. Jerry Fernandes, Can you give me your answer after reading the following scenario? Mervyn3.0 Three people who were working for you died in a car crash. All three had insured themselves thru the company with life insurance and a pension plan. The first person was married for two weeks and designated his new wife as the beneficiary of the plan. The second person was living for ten years with a common law spouse. He could not get married to his current partner as his former spouse refused to sign the divorce papers. The third person was living with a same sex spouse for the past twenty years. The question I have is: To which of the above spouses would you pay the insurance and pension benefits? Mervyn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Strange quote
Folks, I got this quote as I opened my PC this morning: Getting people to like you is merely the other side of liking them. -Norman Vincent Pearle (clergyman/writer) Mervyn3.0 PS. Is the opposite why some posters are disliked? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Homeschooling in Goa
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My posting concerning homeschooling was a very simple query about the homeschooling movement-- I wanted to know if there was one in Goa and/or India. Peter, The short answer is No. There is no homeschooling movement in Goa or in India. I hope this helps. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Organized religious chauvinism
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point that has been made by me is that organized religions provide their followers with some universal moral compass. Disorganized atheists have to devise moral compasses of their own which can be whatever they want it to be. I have repeatedly said that these can be better or not than those provided by organized religions. I have also said that having a moral compass is no guarantee of anything. Know this when you read his comments above, which are plainly false in the proper context. Folks, Here is an article I found on the Tanzanite-Goans list. Before you read it let me warn you that the article can drastically change your perception of morality. Mervyn3.0 -- The immorality of the Ten Commandments. by Christopher Hitchens http://slate.msn.com/id/2087621/ The row over the boulder-sized version of the so-called Ten Commandments, and as to whether they should be exhibited in such massive shape on public property, misses the opportunity to consider these top-10 divine ordinances and their relationship to original intent. Judge Roy Moore is clearly, as well as a fool and a publicity-hound, a man who identifies the Mount Sinai orders to Moses with a certain interpretation of Protestantism. But we may ask ourselves why any sect, however primitive, would want to base itself on such vague pre-Christian desert morality (assuming Moses to be pre-Christian). The first four of the commandments have little to do with either law or morality, and the first three suggest a terrific insecurity on the part of the person supposedly issuing them. I am the lord thy god and thou shalt have no other ... no graven images... no taking of my name in vain: surely these could have been compressed into a more general injunction to show respect. The ensuing order to set aside a holy day is scarcely a moral or ethical one, unless you assume that other days are somehow profane. (The Rev. Ian Paisley, I remember, used to refuse interviewers for Sunday newspapers even after it was pointed out to him that it's the Monday edition that is prepared on Sunday.) Whereas a day of rest, as prefigured in the opening passages of Genesis, is no more than organized labor might have demanded, perhaps during the arduous days of unpaid pyramid erection. Read the rest of this article at: http://slate.msn.com/id/2087621/
[Goanet] Bush plays great game well in India
Bush plays great game well in India President has managed high-stakes chess game involving India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and China so deftly that New Delhi is firmly in the American camp Mar. 2, 2006 HAROON SIDDIQUI THE TORONTO STAR George W. Bush loves Indian food. He likes it flavoured but not too spicy, greasy or oily. Chicken and lamb are his favourites and he loves kebobs. That's the word from the head chef at the hotel in New Delhi where the president checked in last night on his first trip to India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The last time a U.S. president was in the region was Bill Clinton in 2000, and he made more news with his appetite than his policies. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1call_pageid=971358637177c=Articlecid=1141253415465 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] RE: Savika Gomes' Excuse me in Red ...final
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Goanet moderators routinely return my posts for adjustments, sometimes for the most picayune reasons, often for using the same phrases as posted by some of their friends. They rejected one post because I inadvertantly submitted it in HTML. Another because I had not truncated the previous post. Another for simply calling a poster who is routinely irritable and abusive this guy. Rather than waste my time arguing with them, I just changed this guy to Mr. and then they posted it. Mario, I would assume that anyone who had twenty seven messages rejected in one day would re-assess the situation and decide whether to make more posts or less especially since there is no prize on Goanet for the most posts/rejects in a day. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Understanding Konkani
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This being GoaNet, I think the appropriate konkani term is 'theist-kith-eh?' Doc, As a non-resident Goan I too used get mixed signals when people in Goa tried to converse with me. Every time I am Goa, my Aunt calls the entire vadoo for rosary at her place (I guess her prayers alone are not going to work?) After rosary, everyone gets a round of boiled grams. Then they set off some fire-crackers. At this point, all those who are satisfied that the spirits have been expelled leave and those who are not, hang around. Not to disappoint these more interesting people, I conjure up some spirits of my own. This is no easy task as in my aunt's house, the bottle of Holy Water and spirits are kept in the same cupboard :-) The communication problem I have with Goans from Goa is that they often say one thing but mean the opposite. For example, when I offer them more spirits they will went thru this little pantomime of holding their palms over their glass and saying, Poo-row, P-row and nah-ray, naaah-ray. At first, I used to get confused. Was the guy saying, No, I've had enough? When I looked closely at the persons hand, there was a big enough gap between the fingers to pour another shot. Now I know better. One has to combine both expressions to understand what is being said. The combined expression is, pour-ray. The large gap between the fingers allows you pour all you want of whats being offered :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] RE: Jose Christo ...on taking the cake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently eaten the fruit of the Forbidden Tree of Knowledge and have been cast out of the Garden of Eden. But the view on this side of the hill is breathtaking. I can't describe how exhilarating it is to be free of dogma without a hint of fanaticism. So, rather than classify myself as an A-theist (ie. against theism) I prefer the term Non-theist' (ie. for me, there is no such creature). However, Humanist more aptly describes my life philosophy today. Kevin Saldanha, The proper Canadian word is not A-theist (as you properly point out.) The Canadian word you are looking for is, theist-eh! Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Thank you and sorry
Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soon after the WW2 when Goans landed in East Africa, the first white official to meet in the harbour was the Immigration Officer. Antonio, Goans have been in E. Africa long before the white folks. In fact, when the Europeans did take over the administration, they messed up everything before they got booted out. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Ahteism does not provide a moral compass?
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christianity is no longer guilt ridden, though it does provide a moral compass, which atheism does not provide, preferring whatever is convenient at any given time, of course within the legal system. Mario, Canada is now a post-Christian society. The majority of people go to the places of worship only for ceremonial services. Laws are made by secular law makers and no longer encompass Christian thought. In fact, it is atheist thought that influences the laws of the land. For example, same sex marriage is legal. I believe the atheist influence on the law making process to be a good one and a counter point to those who blindly follow religious leaders. We DO NOT, for example, have religious leaders who advocate the taking out of Presidents of other countries. Such a person would be classified as a morally disturbed, here in Canada. Mervyn3.0 The reliability of the person giving you the facts is as important as the facts themselves. Keep in mind that facts are seldom facts, but what people think are facts, heavily tinged with assumptions. - Harold Geneen __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Bill Clinton arrives
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Clinton has arrived - hide the women. Mario, Goan women have the capacity to decide for themselves if they want to meet Clinton or not. On the other hand, I am glad that your women depend on you for their movements (or lack thereof.) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Migrating er, relocating to Canada?
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please to not be intimidated but some of the politico posts - you can start your own interest issues and I am sure that once started it will go well! Ok Folks, I think I can start this ball rolling. I am willing to provide anyone info on what to do/how to get around when you first arrive in Canada. All you need to do is drop me a note. Mervyn3.0 Please note: I have no info on how to migrate to Canada. My offer is for those who have already got their Canadian immigration papers. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Post-Valentines Day thoughts
Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more innovative among us fabricated romantic Valentine cards out of old wedding invitations and hand made Valentine gifts out of whatever was readily available - paper, cloth and bamboo being popular long before thermacol had a stranglehold on amateur fabrication and the wedding décor cottage industry. Mr Pinto, Hand made Valentines cards will always do the job. Always. Why on earth would I send my wife a Valentines Day card? Because she married you i.e. the most interesting person in the pool available to her. What waters would I be testing? For heaven's sake we've been married nearly a decade and have school going children! Why do I have to acknowledge our ongoing romance? Isn't it evident in our interaction every day? What further lustful intentions can I hope to find fulfilled? Now that I think of it, there is one... And yes that other intimate activity I read about (read saw!) on a rather 'mature' website the other day. M... yes. Yes!! I wonder if those genius card designers have thought of a very expensive huge graphic and mature Belated Valentines Day Card? The other thing that works well is giving her flowers :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Goa on the front page of The Toronto Star
CANDOLIM, GOA Like many other retired Torontonians, Rita and Vishnu Mathur went seeking the sun this winter, but instead of trekking off to a condo in Florida, they've found their version of an oceanside paradise here on India's southwest coast. They're among a growing number of foreign citizens Europeans, Indian expats from Britain, and a few intrepid Canadians, even some with no roots in India drawn to Goa by a fine climate, low cost of living, and cosmopolitan culture, advantages that for many outweigh the potential drawbacks of retiring in India. -see below- http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1call_pageid=971358637177c=Articlecid=1139786107890 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] GOA PLANS FOR A380, VEGAS STEERS CLEAR
Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I first thought this was a natural American Not invented here reaction. But on reading further, I came to understand the logistics of loading/unloading some 500-800 passengers (depending on configuration of the aircraft), can be mind-boggling. Catering and baggage-handling also come to mind, besides the required toilet and refuelling facilities mentioned in the article. Gabriel de Figueiedo, The Las Vegas strip or the Casino Hotels are parallel to the airport and now even run adjacent to it. The noise pollution is what, IMHO, will stop the Vegas authorities from allowing the bigger air planes to land there. MErvyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Canadian elections
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I salute and commend Troy DeSouza for sticking his neck out on behalf of his adopted country. I hope he sticks with it and runs again in future. Folks, In Canada people do not vote for a candidate based of where the candidate has come from or where he was born. People vote for candidates based on the candidates plans for the future. Aound fifteen percent of the MP's in the previous Parliament were born outside Canada. When you add the other MP's who were born to immigrant parents, the MP's who represent the immigrant experience rises to around 40%. That is also the percentage of Canadians (living) who have gone thru the immigrant experience. I do not know of any other country where an immigrant faces less restrictions in running for political office. Neither have I heard of any another country where immigrants are better represented in Parliament. The MP for my district is a Yasmin Ratansi. Yasmin is from Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania. Lastly, immigrants can run for all political offices. All. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Which airlines?
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was pretty impressed by the network which the Ethiopian (the national carrier of Ethiopia) has been building up, particularly for routes in Africa. It seems to be having an international perspective, with thrice and four-times-each-week flights even to cities like Mumbai and Delhi. They have an impressive (very functional, well designed, not a block of concrete, and apparently inexpensively built) airport called Bole, at Addis. And though I faced longish delays on both legs (once due to the fog in Cairo, where the incoming plane came from; the other time due to apparent technical trouble with the plane), it was quite an experience encountering this face of Africa. A Third World country which seems to be getting things right... at least as far as its airlines goes. FN, Ethiopian Airlines is and has always been the best airline operating from Africa. Even when the Marxist ruled Ethiopia, they left the management of the state owned airline to operate without interference. The air hostess are extra ordinary caring and will really make you feel welcome. For the longest time, Ethiopian Airlines was the only link between Tanzania and India. Lastly, the Ethiopian Airlines management in Dar would regularly visit the Dar Institute. Needless to say, there always were Goans working for Ethiopian Airlines in Dar. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Re: Two great men not
Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Halliburton is not the only company whose stock has appreciated since 2001 (after 9/11). Here are other companies in similar industries (oilfield and engineering services) whose stock has risen to similar levels OR ABOVE during the same period (2001 to the present): Schlumberger Limited $35 - 115.00 Murphy Exploration 15 - 60.00 Questar Corp. 20 - 84.00 Nabors Industries 19 - 80.00 Joy, You are comparing oranges with apples. You have chosen to compare Halliburton with a seismic company, with a trader of electricity and hydrocarbons, and with a pipeline company. I can cite several others with similar equivalents. The reason that the price of such stocks has gone up is due to the fact that there is shortage of oil and there is feverish exploration activity with resultant demand for such services... I took a quick look at Halliburton's financials. It's reported sales in Iraq are as below: 2002 1 Million 2003 2.4 BILLION 2004 5.3 BILLION You may be aware that most of Halliburton's contracts in Iraq have not been won by any tender. Everytime a pipeline gets blown up, Halliburton gets another contract. H! The impression sought to be given is that Halliburton is making money hand over fist which goes directly into the pockets of Bush/Cheney. The facts are: Halliburton lost money in the last three years to the extent of $979 (million) in 2004, $820 (million) in 2003 and $998 (million) in 2002. These are cold irrefutable facts. What is irrefutable is that you do not know to read a financial statement. Halliburton did not lose money. Between 2003 and 2004, its cash balance increased by one BILLION dollars. Its assets increased by 2 BILLION dollars. In 2004, it took a tax write off for 1.5 BILLION dollars thus turning the results from operations into a tax loss. It will now turn around and ask the US govt for a hand out because it needs money to search for oil in difficult places. In this regard, it's no better than all the other US firm who are seeking the same govt handouts (despite all the oil firms making obscene profits last year.) Yes indeed! this company does know how to operate and it reflects in its share price. I would be investing in it too if I could somehow convince myself that the 3,000 Americans who died, are not the cost of investment. One more thing, Halliburton's stock price had fallen from $50 to $10 in the year preceding the invasion of Iraq. If we as Goans continue with closed minds without educating ourselves into reality trying to bring others down as it appears to be our tradition, we shall continue to remain at the bottom of the heap! I would like to congratulate the person who gave you that piece of advise (even though you have not understood the same :-) It is a crying shame that some of the posters on this forum are so blinded in their hate for Pesident Bush and Mr. Cheney, they would like to obfuscate statistics to bring these honorable people down to their level--if it is possible to drag anyone into the sewer with them... Joy, Bush(43) and Cheney are NOT honourable people. They are war mongers. Lastly talking about sewer people, do you remember one picnic in New York where GOA mothers were screaming at Joy Braganza not to shout obscenities in front of their children? Here is what Joy Braganza's reported on Goanet, in case you have forgotten. The New York Goans put on quite a spectacle in full public view to the bemusement of other picnickers. The Whitestone crowd was in full form with choice abuses and physical threats ala Tony Soprano against Hercules of New Jersey and his partner. The Budd Lake Padre was also inebriated and rose to the occasion by rushing towards Hercules and using abuse freely. A Nun kept praying and finally the Padre was unanimously elected and proceeded to imbibe more Feni. Why go to Goa? We have free Tiatr here. Not to be left behind, the former first lady went ballistic and unleashed a torrent of swear words which would make Tony Soprano look mild. And a newcomer sighed-we are after all Goans! God Bless our Goa and Viva!! Joy -- Joy too.
[Goanet] Video clips of Goa's liberation/invasion
are available at this site. The clips are grainy but, hey! it's better than nothing. There also are clips for Tanzania and most other countries too. Just use the search feature. http://www.britishpathe.com/product_display.php?searchword=goa Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Re: Two great men not
Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same Heilburton guy who raped Iraq economically in cahoots with his buddy the incompetent warmonger Bush and who is now sucking the Kuwaitis and Saudis dry of their precious Oil so that these Arabs will soon be in the poorhouse? Joy, Halliburton, run by Dick Cheney, was trading at USD$20 at the start of the Iraq war. It's now trading at USD$72. Any trader who believed that the US were invading Iraq for oil (instead of to promote democracy) went out and bought oil stocks. After all, both Cheney and President Bush (43) were oil men before accepting govt positions and will return to trading oil when their terms are over. It helps the two when, coincidentally, their blind trusts are loaded with oil stocks. Could Valenzuela and Cuba be far behind in the nefarious Cheney schemes to rob those countries of their Oil? Actually, both countries are a step ahead of Cheney. Venezuela already owns the Citgo chain in the US and has announced that it will supply cheap gas to the American poor. Cuba is willing to do the same too. Joy3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Why What's Good for India Is Good for the US
--- | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by Charles Wheelan, Ph.D. Do you remember the crap that Detroit produced before Honda and Toyota became serious players in the American market? (True, Detroit still produces a shocking amount of crap, but now we don't have to buy it, as GM shareholders and bondholders have learned.) The first is energy. On the fossil fuel front, the whole world is locked in a zero-sum game. Every newly prosperous high-tech worker in Bangalore (or Beijing or Bangkok) wants a car or at least a two wheeler. Folks, Looking at this from the view point of an investor, I would long oil stocks and short GM. Then again, that's what the smart people have been doing for the past two years. Also, as Indians get more dollars, dollars that are depreciating in value, they will use the method they traditionally use to store value i.e. they will invest in gold. Someone correct me if I am wrong but when you sell US dollars and buy gold, that cannot be good for the US economy. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] Two great men
--- | New on Goanet's website's Aamp;E section - http://www.goanet.org | | Book in Review: A Kind of Absence - Joao da Veiga Coutinho| | POEM: SUSEGAAD - Cynthia Gomes James| | http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadamp;name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=216 | --- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us also remember and honor Abe Lincoln, also known as the Great Emancipator who freed negroes from slavery and the Republicans in Congress who helped tip the 1964 Civil Rights Act even when Democrats such as Algore Sr and the Robt Byrd Klaneagle opposed it. Oh Joy! Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] re: conservative candidate in canada
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On another point, more than 30 candidates of Indian origin are fighting the elections. Of the 10 MPs of Indian origin, only one MP -- Gurmant Grewal, is not contesting. Grewal was probably told to step down after doctoring a taped interview with Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh. Grewal's wife, Narinder (Nina), also an MP, both creating a record as a husband and wife team for the first time in parliament, is contesting. Both are Conservatives. She is likely to face a tougher battle this time against the Liberal candidate, Brenda Locke. Folks, One more tid bit ;-) about the Grewal couple. They made the journey from refugees to MP's in five years. Such are the opportunities in Canada. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Re: How should the world deal with Iran?
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is going on in Iraq can only be considered a fiasco by someone who is a) completely ignorant about what is going on there, Mario, I am glad that you are somewhat aware of the situation you are in. and b) someone who takes the Islamo-fascist point of view, because their inability to deny the Iraqis the spread of freedom and democracy is truly a fiasco for them. Just in case the US press has not reported it, gunmen burst into the puppet mayor of Baghdad's office and told him to leave the country. They then put their own man into place. Is this the freedom and democracy the US is installing in Iraq? The only reason the other elected puppet leaders have not been removed in a similar fashion is because they are protected (from the Iraqis) by being allowed to reside in the American green zone. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Joy Braganza Discussion
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The attempt by Santosh you have described above to smear Chris with a false allegation is beneath contempt. Mario, Rest assured that Santosh will never make a post with out meticulously researching the subject first. You on the other hand, are quite the opposite. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Goa; Why South India is jihadi target
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jan/04raman.htm And yet, one morning in January 1993, Mir Aimal Kansi, a Pakistani national, drove to the headquarters of the CIA, waited in his car -- without being questioned by the security guards -- till the staff started arriving for their morning shift. He got out of his car with a modern rifle and fired indiscriminately, killing two officers and injuring some others, got back into his car, drove to the airport, left for Pakistan and disappeared in the remote tribal areas of Pakistan. FWIW, Kansi did not drive up to the headquarters of the CIA. All he did was stop his car at a traffic light on the road leading to the CIA's HQ, and started firing indiscriminately. I know this because I had driven past the spot of the shooting about 20 minutes before the incident ;-) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Re:How should the world deal with Iran?
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The govts of Afghanistan and Iraq were installed by the Americans. The Americans carefully vetted who would be allowed to hold govt positions. Mario responds: The above assertion is completely false as one can expect from Mervyn, who has always been a staunch supporter of the Islamo-fascist oppression in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mario, It's fascinating to watch how your mind does not work. Anyone reading the above would think that your Americans stood by and winked as terrorists, insurgents and Dorito lovers ran for positions in the Iraqi elections/govt. Please confirm if this is the case or not ;-) Secondly, your posts here are starting to give me coulrophobia. (1) In the meantime the Islamo-fascists that Mervyn and his left wing cohorts clearly support, are in their death throes, reduced to targeting and killing innocent civilians in their desperate attempts to deny them freedom and democracy. Mario, Just in case the US press is not reporting it, dead soldiers are being returned to the US at the rate of 12 per day. I am going to ASSume that these US soldiers were killed by the insurgents in Iraq. The only other assumption is that the Americans are killing themselves in Iraq. Then again, there is the possibility that these soldiers just died of fright. Mervyn3.0 (1) The term coulrophobia, the fear of clowns, is a recent coining in response to a surprisingly large amount of interest in the condition, particularly on the Internet. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Confusion about insults
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it would be helpful, in an act of penance to disclose the sewer rat who told you I was 'Joy Braganza'. I know who it is. But the participants in this forum have a right to know because you have disparaged one of them. In the meantime don't insult anybody's intelligence by diverting the discussion towards Tarik. Chris, I have been on Goanet for twelve years. Your post on Tarik and his ilk was the most disgusting one I have read here. That says a lot about you. If you had any self respect, you would have apologized to everyone for making that post. In the meantime the $50,000 is still on the table if you wish to take the challenge... Now, whats this $50,000 challenge about? Please let us know. This is going to be the easiest $50,000 I will make. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] List of gratuitous lies continues
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that Santosh has nothing to say about the issue. While desperately, even comically, advocating for questionable enviromental speculation of what is going to happen far into the future and demanding that everyone except India and China reconfigure their entire economies RIGHT NOW, Santosh, who is a medical scientist, ignores an actual medical tragedy caused purely by junk science on DDT which has caused the needless deaths of millions in mostly poor and tropical countries, including India. Mario, Santosh has never demanded that everyone except India and China reconfigure their entire economies RIGHT NOW, You are a liar! I challenge you to: 1) prove your contention else 2) apologize to him. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Re: List of gratuitous lies
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand Santosh has branded President Bush a liar without any substantiation--presumably because no WMDs were found even though the whole world , including former president Clinton and the U.N. believed he had them and that he had, in the past, used them very deliberately on his own countrymen! Chris, The only people who believed the Bush adm's lies were those who had no access to news other than that from the western press. France and China served the US with notice that they would veto any UN resolution to invade Iraq. So the US came up with new lies and a coalition of weak leaders (i.e. those who could be easily arm twisted) to justify thier invasion of Iraq. Here are some lies from the American leaders: Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. Dick Cheney Speech to VFW National Convention August 26, 2002 Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons. George W. Bush Speech to UN General Assembly September 12, 2002 If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world. Ari Fleischer Press Briefing December 2, 2002 We know for a fact that there are weapons there. Ari Fleischer Press Briefing January 9, 2003 Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. George W. Bush State of the Union Address January 28, 2003 We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more. Colin Powell Remarks to UN Security Council February 5, 2003 Mervyn3.0 What a Tangled Web We Weave . . . . . . when first we practice to deceive! __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Re:How should the world deal with Iran?
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were it not for the sacrifice of these countries, 50 million Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq would still be under the sadistic and brutal heel of Muslim tyrants, Mario, The govts of Afghanistan and Iraq were installed by the Americans. The Americans carefully vetted who would be allowed to hold govt positions. These elected puppets do not have any control over their respective countries. In both countries, the leader of the govt is nothing more than the mayor of the capital, depending on American forces (both public and mercenaries) for his survival. In Iraq, the puppet leader does not have control over the road from his residence to the airport. In Afghanistan, opium production and export is up ten fold since the Americans took over. In Iraq, oil production and export is down. To most of us, the people of those two countries are under the sadistic and brutal heel of AMERICAN tyrants. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] The Top 10 Junk Science Claims of 2005
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh writes: I submit to you that the above poster will not able to name any actual scientist who has obtained a research grant in the manner described by him above. He will also not be able to name a single scientist who has been co-opted by the socialists as he frivolously claims. Mario responds: This request to name people engaged in such behavior is absurd and a desperate attempt to divert attention -snip- blah, blah, blah -snip- that 0.036% of the earth's atmosphere is a significant amount, that we can control greenhouse gases by exempting India and China, that ... Are Goanetters getting the point here? I hope so. Mario, We are getting the point loud and clear. The point is: You could not come up with the name of a single scientist. You also gotta admit that you posted a history of the world instead :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] RE: Fear of flying
-- || |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || |The Riviera Opposite Hotel Mandovi, Panjim (near Ferry Jetty/Riverfront)| | Attending...drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is appalling is that that those 'watching the radar screen' have this awful blindspot --- about military control of a big chunk of Indian aviation. Twenty five to thirty percent of Indian airports are civil enclaves at military airports. No one knows the extent of traffic accounted for by these civil enclaves. At minimum (i.e. excluding Mumbai and Delhi whom some believe, wrongly in my opinion, are miltary controlled) they must be a significant percentage of the total. Philip Thomas, Tiny Cuba has ten international airports, India has sixteen. All but one of the Cuban airports were built as air force bases. It seems that Cuba has seen the light while India has not. Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Playing God in running shoes
Folks, This is a snip from The Globe and Mail of 17th Decemeber, 2005. Mervyn3.0 --- Playing God in running shoes. Welcome to the age of synthesized life, built from scratch. Soon, it may be so cheap and simple a teen hacker could do it. Or a terrorist. CAROLYN ABRAHAM reports By CAROLYN ABRAHAM Saturday, December 17, 2005 Page F1 It's 8 o'clock on a Wednesday night at the University of Toronto's medical sciences building, and Emanuel Nazareth holds a Petri dish up to the light. He squints at the clear, tiny bubbles dotting its amber surface, as though staring at it will make it grow. It's three days till show time and their project looks like spit on a plate. He pops it back in the incubator without saying a word. Assistant engineering professor Stephen Davies trudges past, both hands buried deep in the pockets of his khakis, and sighs. He knows the score. With less than 48 hours of growing time left, it's going to take a miracle to make this project fly. But Matt Scott, a 30-year-old mathematician pitching in from the University of Waterloo, is beaming. It's his first night. Never before has he dirtied his hands in a wet lab, shifting from the cold world of manipulating numbers to manipulating life: It's just really neat, he says, fiddling with genetic components to get a certain behaviour. Fiddling, indeed. Here in this fourth-floor lab, where a poster in a stairwell advertises a lecture titled Does God exist?, these young minds are at serious play in the Lord's proverbial fields, transforming living things into toys of their choice. E. coli, the common intestinal bug and scourge of undercooked hamburger, is being remade into a living Etch A Sketch that could say, Hi Mom. Another batch is being reprogrammed to change colour, like a mood ring, at different temperatures. And, ready or not, their efforts have earned them an invite to one of the more ambitious science fairs ever held. There will be no papier-mâché volcanoes, robots or homemade clocks at this competition. It's being held at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the planet's mecca of innovation. The exhibits will be lab-made life forms modified with genetic parts that were dreamed up, designed and constructed with computers and DNA. If you think designing life is the sacred business of a divine executive, think again. In the 21st century, this godlike power is shared by people who schlep backpacks and study for mid-terms, such as Mr. Nazareth, a 22-year-old, fourth-year engineering undergrad. In reading DNA, science isn't much beyond the See Dick run stage. Yet a growing scientific movement is already afoot to rewrite it. The goal is audacious -- to make living things that behave like invented gadgets. This emerging science is called synthetic biology, a term that confirms the profound, if eerie, fact that creating DNA -- the building block of life -- is no longer the sole domain of nature. New and relatively cheap computing technology is allowing students and even non-scientists to assemble the chemical chains that encode genetic functions, making it possible to design and construct genes, and soon perhaps life itself, from scratch. At this very moment, in a lab outside Washington, D.C., scientist Craig Venter, famous for mapping a private version of the human genome in 2000, is leading efforts to create the world's first human-designed species. Driving the field is a twin-engine philosophy: First is the idea that the best way truly to understand life is to build it. Second is the hope that these life forms could be harnessed to do human bidding. The genetic codes of organisms could be rewritten to produce hard-to-make drugs, gobble up pollution, pump out clean energy, kill cancer cells or simply grow flowers that bloom on your birthday. There is nothing mystical or spiritual about this. I don't have to invoke the gods, says Toronto researcher Andrew Hessel, raising his arms to the heavens one stormy morning. DNA is the only language used to program life on this planet. . . . To change the organism, you change the instructions in the DNA program. In the 19th century, chemists learned to synthesize organic compounds they once thought only nature could make. From there, they went on to invent a raft of things, from plastics to polyester, that nature never imagined. -snip- Emanuel Nazareth began programming computers at the age of 10, not long after he and his family emigrated from Kenya to the Toronto suburb of Mississauga. First, it was text-based, in BASIC. Then colour came along. For fun, he modelled worlds with Sim City. He would make games, animate the characters he created and compete with friends over e-mail in building fantasy lands. Too much! his mother would say of his computer time. Go out and play sports! After graduating from high school with a 93 per cent average, he secured a spot in biomedical engineering at U of T, one of the more competitive undergrad programs in
[Goanet] Goan cooking on Canadian TV
Folks, I picked this from another net. In a few days you should be able to view the show from home. Mervyn3.0 --- You would need to go to this website and would have to have www.realplayer.com installed on your computer http://www.cbc.ca/canadanowbc/food_goa.html The spread was sannas, sorpotel,vindaloo,turkey (instead of pigling) bibic, fish curry, red pumkin, prawns, ...we were telling the crowd that the best Bibic we have ever, ever tasted was the one done by your Mom. They have not yet placed the Goan clipp Ok, they had three sessions aired ..Mexico, Ethopian and last nite was Goa till now only the first two we can view, but the last one being Goan, maybe the site is not updated ...but once you can view it, you will enjoy the konkani singing ... __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
Re: [Goanet] Mumbai architect Charles Correa designs MIT neuroscience centre
-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | -- Mumbai architect Charles Correa designs MIT neuroscience centre NEW YORK: Mumbai-based architect Charles Correa has designed what is the world's largest complex dedicated to neuroscience research at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) at Boston, USA. Folks, Charles Correa is also in charge of the Aga Khan Centre, a large project, here is Toronto. There are some excellent articles about him and the project in The Toronto Star but, unfortunately, they are all articles are pay to view. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/828338411.html?did=828338411FMT=ABSFMTS=FTdate=Apr+28%2C+2005author=Haroon+Siddiquipub=Toronto+Stardesc=Selling+a+Canadian+idea+to+the+world Mervyn3.0 The new facility, inaugurated last weekend, has state-of-the-art facilities and is built around a soaring five-storey atrium, include wet and dry labs for molecular, cognitive and systems neuroscience, the imaging center with fMRIs, classrooms, offices, seminar rooms and a large auditorium. The new 4.11 lakh square-foot complex is the latest building to open as part of MIT's extensive new building programme. It will house three primary occupants: the Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, the McGovern Institute for Brain Research and the Picower Institute for Learning and Memory, as well as the Athinoula A Martinos Imaging Center. The complex is designed to bring scientists from disparate backgrounds together, and to encourage chance encounters and conversations that may lead to new ideas. Proximity and buildings matter a great deal in science said Mriganka Sur, the Indian American head of the Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences. We expect it will expand the imagination of our students and researchers by allowing them easy access to other ways and levels and scales of thinking. We believe Charles Correa's design, with its soaring spaces and light, will allow imaginations to soar as well. Every place has its own soil, its own culture, said Correa at the inauguration. And the culture of MIT is that of science; that is to say, the gravitas of science. This is the crucial territory that I knew this project must reclaim. Correa is a major figure in contemporary architecture. He studied architecture at the University of Michigan and at MIT. In private practice in Mumbai since 1958, his work covers a wide range, from the Mahatma Gandhi Memorial at the Sabarmati Ashram, to the Jawahar Kala Kendra in Jaipur, and the state assembly for Madhya Pradesh. (DNA - Evolutions - Mumbai) --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ --- __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2005 Christmas Package - Flowers, Bubbles and Layers of Love. http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ ---
