Re: [Goanet] Alternatives to Mining: HERALD(Goa), May 8, 2009
sending a middle i once wrote, kind of related to article below. Different Minescapes The black, sooty, dreary landscape looked like something from another planet. Hundreds of trucks, endlessly raced and swayed over and across the muddy, curvy roads, up and down the slopes. Giant cranes cruelly devoured the mud, causing crates, landslides, in an organized way. It's difficult to believe that this area from where the state's big money came, lay on the fringe of one of India's greenest states, Goa. My request to visit a mine had been met with a perplexed Why? I had no answer except that I was curious. The pebbly earth that the cranes crunched was raised to a height, sieved through rattling, shaking, graded meshes. The enormous imported machines that yanked the transport belts looked, sounded and were a decade old. The men (no womenfolk here) paced leisurely up and down the line, monitoring the activity. The loaders on the trucks led a more hectic life. Had their supervisors carried whips, they might have resembled the Egyptians who built the pyramids. Not a thing pretty here. Not a bird, flower, no colour, no peace. The black, sooty ore, washed and graded, stored piled, open to the sky, was transported later by road to the closest quay from where it would be ferried to the main port. Thence to worldwide destinations. I expected the same ugliness when I went down a salt mine in Poland. What a contrast. At 135 metres, the deepest mine in the world gave me one of the most memorable experiences of my life. From Crakow to Wieliczka, the drive was smooth, with flat green fields on either side. Once the tickets were bought and we entered the cool (13 deg C) blackness, the stern guide took over. The crystalline walls, the floor, were gleaming, solid sodium chloride. Our guide explained how things had evolved over 400 years. There were full-sized statues of saints and kings carved out of the 'rock'. The humidity in our breaths could dissolve them, so we kept our distance. Seeping and dripping water could form streams that would dissolve an entire mine, and cause deaths: channels were made for the safety of the workers. Once horses were lowered into the shafts to work the wheels and levers, so large was the subterranean maze. Deeper, was a big cathedral with chandeliers whose crystals, too, were made of salt. On the walls were carved figurines, scenes from the Bible. The floor was made to give the appearance of tiles. Still in use, these mines have a museum, a cafetaria, even a post-office. We can't look after the Taj, leave aside converting a mine into a tourist attraction. (The Times of India, 17 Oct, 2003)
[Goanet] Alternatives to Mining: HERALD(Goa), May 8, 2009
Valmiki writes: Here's an impassioned, interesting and inspiring article that appeared in today's *Herald* (Goa) penned by Samir Kelekar. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=21357cid=14 ALTERNATIVES TO MINING By Samir Kelekar Thanks for your kind words Valmikibab. Appreciate them much. regards, Samir
[Goanet] jose rod sings for...
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[Goanet] Modus operandi of Mahanand. Deficiency in our social fabric
Modus operandi of Mahanand. Deficiency in our social fabric Mahanand identified unmarried women above 25 as his targets. All those women might have had social pressure “yede ghode vadala, kazarela’ . These women are look out for man with in own community. Just like a lonely hungry dog goes after man holding food, such women becomes affectionate to any man from her own community. Shrikant Vinayak Barve Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] Snake Rescue Volunteers Snakebite Treatment In Goa
Dear nettekars, This Snakesheet was distributed by Saligao's Green Crossers Griselda Nobay, Tarika Suhail Kiran at an awareness programme on identifying, handling and rescuing snakes, at a children's camp organised by the youth of Mae de Deus parish, Saligao, Goa: Snake Rescue Volunteers Snakebite Treatment In Goa Do not panic if you see a snake! As you know now, not all of them are venomous. If you cannot identify it, do not kill it. Instead, call one of the volunteers listed below. There are over 20 volunteers in Saligao and Bardez who will come immediately, catch the snake and release it back into the wild. Some of these volunteers will request for a small fee to cover fuel expenses. Name - Residence - Area of operation - NGO - Contact numbers (some may have changed) Saligao: Griselda Nobay, Donvaddo - GCR - 9823802842 / 2278567 Tarika Suhail, Donvaddo - GCR - 240 / 2278276 Bardez: Suneel Korajjkar, Mapusa, Bardez - GCR - 9822123042/ 2253715 Alfred D'Mello, Nagoa, Bardez - GCR - 9823053474 / 2278903 Sagar Kambli, Mapusa, Bardez - GCR - 9823937930 Sahil Warang, Camurlim, Bardez - GCR - 9823508765 Prasad Shirodkar, Mapusa - GCR - 9765451302 Lenin Nunes, Mapusa - GCR - 9850194061 Aaron Fernandes, Mapusa, Bardez - GCR - 9850560560 Mario Fernandes, Calangute - Bardez/Tiswadi - GCR - 9923667665 Rahul Alvares, Parra, Bardez - (Creepy Times) - 2278740 / 6510871 / 9881961071 Nitin Sawant, Porvorim, Bardez - WWF - 9822483535 / 9823915208 /2414278 Oldrin Pereira, Aldona - Bardez - NNC - 9850450120 Arnold Noronha, Bardez - VEAB - 9420685641 Ramesh Zamekar, Bardez - VEAB - 9923306455 Sharad Chari, Aldona - Bardez - NNC - 2293193 Mario Cavallari, Bardez - ARS - 9822166175 Aaron Lobo, Porvorim - 2412265 / 9822135019 Neil Alvares, Nerul - 2402957 / 3116183 / 9822158688 Sainath Shirodkar, Mapusa - Bardez/Tiswadi - GFD - 9422062880 / 2265772 Forest Dept, Campal, Panjim - North Goa - GFD - 2228772 / 2229701 All Goa: Sanket Naik, Pernem - VEA - 9421239791 Prasad Kassikar, Bambolim - GCR - 2459322 Amrut Singh, Bicholim - ARS - 9422062503 / 2363803 Anand Dalvi, Bicholim - ARS - 9923528080 Vivek Parodkar, Sattari, Bicholim - VEA - 9423600333 / 2369387 Deepak Gawas, Sattari, Bicholim - VEA - 9421248643 Kedar Kanekar, Satteri - Bicholim - ARS - 9324857453 Chandrakant Shinde - Sattari, Bicholim -VEA - 9420159497 Anand Melekar, Satteri - ARS - 9764681913 Rama Bagi, Valpoi - GCR - 2382163 Forest Dept., Margao - South Goa – GFD - 2750246 Venkatesh Sansgiri, Margao - 2550922 / 9822150355 - GCR Julio Quadros - South Goa - 9822152010 Amol Naik - South Goa - GCR - 2605672 / 9822158715 Sudan Naik, Mormugao – Salcete – ARS - 9822387347/ 2550898 Pankaj Lad - Salcete -VEA - 9372109987/ 2751308 Neelam Khomarpant, Margao - Salcete - GCR - 9822123868/ 9822123042 Philip Fernandes - Margao, Salcete - 9822986505 Clinton Vaz, Salcete - WLG - 9890936828 / 2736828 Forest Dept., Mollem - Sanguem GFD - 2612211 Satish Poinguinkar, Canacona - ARS - 9421244555/ 9823134465 / 2641510 Paresh Porob, Canacona - GFD – 9822157139 Forest Dept., Bondla - Ponda - GFD - 2610022 Surel Tilve, Ponda - ARS - 9422058590 / 2335078 Dilip Naik, Ponda - 9823229378 / 2316492 Kamlakant Parab, Ponda - PFA - 9822130598/ 3207920 Dilesh Hazare, Ponda - ARS - 9422453437 / 2340609 Girish Kelakar, Ponda - 2343826 (res), 2314435(off) GFD = Goa Forest Department; VEAB = Vivekananda Environmental Awareness Brigade; ARS = Animal Rescue Squad; GCR = Green Cross; PFA = People for Animals; WWF = World Wildlife Fund; NNC = Nisarga Nature Club: WLG = Wild Goa SNAKEBITE? Follow this treatment plan: a. Reassure the patient. b. If the bite is on the hand or the arm, put the arm in a triangular sling and get hospital treatment urgently c. If the bite is on the leg, put it in a splint to immobilise the bite. Again, get hospital treatment urgently. d. The patient should be encouraged to keep still and move as little as possible. e. Treat a venomous snakebite with ASV or Anti-Snake Venom (also called antivenom or antivenin) at a doctor's clinic or in hospital. Care should be taken to ensure that the patient is not allergic to antivenom. 20% of all people who are given ASV treatment develop some kind of allergic reaction. Do not: a.. Wash the wound; the act of washing leads to moving the venom around the body. b.. Cut or burn the wound. c. Attempt to suck the venom out of the wound. d.. Apply a tourniquet or pressure bandage (the only time a pressure bandage should be considered is if the snake concerned is definitely, 100% a Krait and the journey to hospital is going to take several hours. If the journey is only going to take up to a couple of hours the same treatment should be given as that for any other venomous bite) e.. Give anything by mouth except in the case of dehydration. f.. Self-administer antivenom. This is particularly dangerous without the ability to cope with any allergic reaction, which has the potential to kill far quicker than any snake
[Goanet] Christian strongly condemns interference by the Church in the Lok Sabha election
This is in response to message No: 8, dated: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:10:25 +0530, from: Marshall Mendonza on the subject as is mentioned above. Marshall writes: Barad, you need not get into a hop. R L Francis is an old disgruntled hand. He has no credibility and no following. He sole claim to fame is being propped up by the sangh parivar to embarrass the Church from time to time. My response: You are trying to stitch a Suit that fits Congress without any measurements!!! ...But you will be surprised to see what type of SUIT that is being designed by so called AAM Admi for our India N GOA. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Daily Grook #400
DAILY GROOK #400 __ NONE PUN __ by Francis Rodrigues da curry party wasn't any fun, 'stead of roti they had naan! _ puns word-play of all kinds, hey...read between the lines! _ _ One at a time or all at once? Get updates from your friends in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660827
[Goanet] Serial Killer so far confessed killing 7 ( 8 according to GT today)
Serial Killer so far confessed killing 7 ( 8 according to GT) for updates http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/3511375836/ Accused Mohanand Naik was first arrested on 21st April 2009 in connection with a Rape Case. During interrogations he confessed killings. The accused 40, Rickshaw Driver, allegedly commited FIRST murder when he was about 24 (1994). Main Motive: Greed for Gold Ornaments and money. Mode of killings: Strangulation using the victim's dupata. Mohanand is married with 18 months old child. He seems very quite and many find hard to believe in his alleged crimes. All the murdered victims are young females In 1995, Mohanand was first arrested in kidnapping case but the Police let him off without proper investigation. Now, he admits not only kidnapping but killing the girl too. Murder confessions (as per the Goa Police) as follows: 2 as on 25/04/09 Miss Darshan Naik 22 amp; Miss Yogita Naik 30 1 as on 03/05/09 Miss Vasanti Gaude19 1 as on 06/05/09 Miss Kesar Naik 33 1 as on 07/05/09 Miss Nayan Goancar 30 2 as on 08/05/09 Miss Sunita Gaoncar 31 amp; Miss Anjani Gaoncar 30 (3 as on 08/05/09 as per GT Miss Sunita, Mis Anjani amp; Miss Nirmala Ghadi, 28) Total: 7+1 = 8 as on 8/5/09 it could be even more (up to 10?) However, Police are investigating for possible links to 18 (now 15) missing girls during the period. Watch this space for updates http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/3511375836/ Source: Goan Dailies Some Questions: How come he got away each time? Why his wife never question the source of income? The Accused Mohanand was a part time Rickshaw driver (besides house, it was said they own 2-3 flats, wife works for Ela farm? Recently, the accused told his wife to leave her Job and that he will look after her and their baby) Who is the goldsmith whom he was selling the stollen gold to? joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Information Fr. Vincent Catao
For information of all those who studied with, or at least were boarders under him, that my brother, Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona after fracturing the hip bone following a fall. The funeral is set for the 10th. Info from the Provincial House, POONA. Marcos Gomes-Catao
[Goanet] Press note -Dalgado's Anniversary celebrated
*To, * *The Editor* ** * * *Sir, * *Kindly give publicity to the following news item in your esteemed daily. Also attached a photo.* *Thanking you,* * * *Jose Salvador Fernandes,* *Secretary, Dalgado Konknni Akademi* *Mob: 9881810832 * * * * * * * *Press Note* * * *The Official Language Act is a deliberate attempt to alienate nearly 5 lakh Goans who read and write Konknni in the Roman script, said Dr. Olivinho Gomes, fomer Vice-Chancellor of Goa University.* * * *Speaking at a function organized by Dalgado Konknni Akademi to commemorate the 154th birth anniversary of Mons. Sebastiao Rudolfo Dalgado, Dr. Gomes termed this attempt as a ‘cultural and political genocide’ and cited the example of Switzerland, home to 4 official languages, which respected the diversity of its people. He paid glowing tributes to Mons. Dalgado and dwelt at length on his life and his scholarly contribution to preserve the Konknni language.* * * *Dr. Pandurang Phaldesai, Member Secretary, Kala Akademi who graced the occasion as Guest of Honor, praised the monumental works of Mons. Dalgado and urged the young writers to be torch-bearers of the society.* * * *The Guests also lighted the traditional lamp to inaugurate the Workshop on Short Story and Novel Writing. Floral offerings and a minute’s silence was observed as a mark of respect to Mons. Dalgado.* * * *Resource persons for the day-long workshop were Damodar Mauzo, noted Konknni story writer and *Sahitya Akademy award winner, * and Pundalik Naik, well known Konknni writer and dramatist and former President of Goa Konknni Akademi. Tomazinho Cardozo, President of Tiatr Akademi was the moderator for both the sessions. Over 60 writers who attended the workshop were presented with certificates of participation.* * * *Earlier, Premanand Lotlikar, President of Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) welcomed and Jose Salvador Fernandes, Secretary of DKA, proposed the vote of thanks.* * * *Thomas Fernandes, Treasurer of DKA compered. * *Photo Caption: Dr. Olivinho Gomes, fomer Vice-Chancellor of Goa University seen lighting the lamp to inaugurate the day long workshop on Konknni Short story and Novel writing. Also seeen are Dr. Pandurang Phaldesai, member secretary of Kala Academy, DKA president Premanand A. Lotlikar and Secretary Jose Salvador Fernandes.* * * * *
[Goanet] Why can't Goa think beyond mining?
Samir, That was a very interesting and thought provoking article. May I add some of my own thoughts to your thought process? 1. Tourism: This is Goa’s usp. We do not need Five Star hotels which guzzle water, employ few locals, provide low-end jobs to locals( like cooks, butlers, room boys and housekeeping staff), fence off beaches, etc. Goans have fairly large houses. We need to encourage goans to set aside a couple of rooms, upgrade them to international standards with clean toilets and bath and provide bed and breakfast. This way, it will provide an income to many families and also bring in development at the village level, improve standards of living, maintain the houses and preserve the environment. This is fairly common in European countries like Spain,Germany, Austria and Switzerland. A directory of all such service providers can be compiled and maintained by the Tourism dept or made available on websites. Tourists will also get an opportunity to interact with goan families at a personal level and learn more about the language and culture of the local people. Initially, the government may help with low cost loans or one time grants to help the local population with the upgrading of their homes. 2. Education: Goa possesses excellent qualities to become an educational hub. Literacy is almost 100%. Goa should encourage or take the help of the Centre to set up IIM’s/IIT’s, Management institutes, Catering Colleges, Colleges for Nursing, Engineering Colleges, Medical Colleges, Polytechnics etc. Automatically, the aspirations of the local youth will be galvanized once they become aware of the job opportunities they will get if they get better qualified. This is environment friendly and barring for the staff, will have a floating population of high caliber individuals. We have many goans who have excelled in studies and in their professions but reside outside Goa or overseas. They could be co-opted as visiting faculty. 3. Music: Goans have a natural talent and ear for music. Goa has produced musicians of note and repute like the Mangeshkars, Amonkars, Remo and many many others. A School or College for music on the lines of Trinity College could be opened which would provide employment to hundreds of talented musicians besides enhancing the art and culture of Goa. A natural fallout of this would be Goa would attract people of culture rather than those who come only to exploit its resources. 4. Cottage Industries: Goa is blessed with an abundance of fruits, flowers, and natural resources. Goans are also excellent cooks. Cottage industries like jam making, pickle making, soft drink concentrates can be encouraged. I hope all this will lead to bigger debates and discussions and bear some fruits in the near future. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Identify this beautiful Church (with Prev. Answers)
The Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516199144/sizes/l/ Sat. Evening Mass going on - Today http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/sizes/l/ The 3 golden Altars http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516196928/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516196928/sizes/l/ the main http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515384599/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515384599/sizes/l/ Close-up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515386237/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515386237/sizes/l/ clues: It's in South Goa It's 1581 Church Click on any one link. Or click on Second link for bigger view == Previous Answers: Please identify these two Churches 1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3511954779/sizes/l/ 1565, Salvador do Mundo (Savior of the World) This was captured from a bus on the way to Olaulim 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3505743566/sizes/l/ 1595 St. Alex Church, Calangute This was captured same day as Saligao Church Feast On the way to Candolim/River Princess beach joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Yesterday, we had lunch at Marietta.
Yesterday, we had lunch at Marietta. I guess this restaurant is about 50 years old. I also understand it was named after one of the owner’s daughters. Many Ponnjekar will remember this restaurant. See pic. It’s near the Geeta Bakery. We just had simple xit-coddi (Fish curry Rice). Rs. 30 (see pics) This is the first time I ever been to this restaurant. Infact, I only saw it same day although I heard about it some years ago. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3512753810/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years
Dear Santoshbab, May I respectfully suggest to you that - the 'falta' at the Xri Pandurang Prejidential Library in Purtugez tempar was ferry boat is late, after that and also presently continuing, it was current failure creating confusao, and now the problem is that the words in the 'medical literature database' are too big. BTW: May I also respectfully suggest that you are pointedly incorrect wrt #2 (infra). For, he who does not read, is highly unlikely to be able to plagarize. sincerely jc == Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com 1: The President knows that all of Gilbert’s expansive knowledge comes from his own discoveries and from truths that have been revealed to him by Goan grandmothers, old ladies and other higher powers. 2: Therefore, Gilbert has never felt the need to read anything that is written by others on the internet or in printed books. 3: But now that Gilbert is being considered for the position of the Chief Librarian of the Pandurang Presidential Library, the President wants him to know that a library consists of books and papers written by other people, and it provides access to the world wide web because the web archives all the latest advances in electronic format. 4: If by any chance, however remote, Gilbert does not know something, the President wants him to access the internet to read what is written in, such things as the National Library of Medicine medical literature database and the data provided by professional organizations and institutes.
Re: [Goanet] Christian strongly condemns interference by the Church in the Lok Sabha election
The following contrasting views are interesting. Are Goa Suraj and Floriano also propped up by the Sangh Parivar? Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Barad, you need not get into a hop. R L Francis is an old disgruntled hand. He has no credibility and no following. He sole claim to fame is being propped up by the sangh parivar to embarrass the Church from time to time. Regards, Marshall --- On Thu, 5/7/09, goasuraj goasuraj...@sancharnet.in wrote: In view of the 'formative' policy of the Goa Su-Raj Party that 'Politics' must not mix with 'Religion', this party endorses the press release Issued by R.L. Francis, President, PCLM dalitchristian.org. However, the Church, as an institution, has the right to interact with political parties/governments to claim the rights for itself/subscribers which are guaranteed under the Constitution of a democratic and secular nation, India. Nothing more, nothing less. floriano lobo Gen. Secretary 9890470896
[Goanet] How to Save New Brain Cells: Scientific American
Goanetters, Saving your brain cells..heres proof. Con http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=saving-new-brain-cells
[Goanet] Fr. Vincent Catao
Our sincere condolences. Susan and Aires Barreto --Original Message-- From: Jean Marcos Catao Sender: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org To: goa...@goanet.org ReplyTo: cata...@yahoo.com ReplyTo: Goa's premiere mailing list,estb. 1994! Subject: [Goanet] Information Fr. Vincent Catao Sent: May 9, 2009 10:51 For information of all those who studied with, or at least were boarders under him, that my brother, Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona after fracturing the hip bone following a fall. The funeral is set for the 10th. Info from the Provincial House, POONA. Marcos Gomes-Catao Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
Re: [Goanet] Please identify these two Churches
1. Saviour of the World Church - Salvador do Mundo 2. St. Alex - Calangute On Sat, 09 May 2009 03:36:20 +0530 wrote Please identify these two Churches http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3511954779/sizes/l/
Re: [Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years
-- On Thu, 5/7/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone with half-a-brain would question the following post prior to posting it. Just this morning I ran into Shekar in Ponda, who is widely regarded as the Goan with the largest brain, measuring one-and-one-third brain. He would like to know what scale Gilbert uses to measures brains. He is concerned that Gilbert uses some cheating goldsmith's scale, where the actual is always less than stated. Hence, half-a-brain may actually be eight-tenth of a brain. Shekar's sister, Sonia, is curious if Gilbert is confused about hyphenated words like half-brain. Does Gilbert believe a cat-fish is a cat? Does he think a piggy-bank is a little pig? Does he think chicken-soup is a chicken or a soup? Go and celebrate. Take a whole month's vacation in Hawaii and then another month to Thailand and then another month in India,... Shekar's dad likes Gilbert's idea of go and celebrate especially in India but is worried about the global warming implication of flying to three locations. Would it not be better to rather spend 3 months in one location? Or at least three locations next to each other? He suggested a month in Ponda, a month in Valpoi and a month in Bicholim, not exactly next to each other but close enough for Frank, the nine-tenth of a brain motor-cycle taxi guy to take him around. George
[Goanet] Churchill and their maturing Band of Brothers
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Churchill and their maturing Band of Brothers Friday, 08. May 2009 - Sujay Sharma Patron Churchill Alemao of the newly crowned Indian football champions has definitely thrown the gauntlet to the pretenders to their perch, with the extension of contracts for next season too of virtually the whole team that was so successful and made history for the family-team from Varca. Odafe, Mangi, Felix, Kalu, Vashum, Robert, Paite, Naoba: all of these tremendously key players have been retained, despite the tough negotiations and attempts by clubs from Kolkata and Mumbai to prize them away. Reportedly Odafe has sacrificed 20 lakhs to stick it out for another season with the champions, than head to the desperate success starved record champions East Bengal Club. That is no small sum by any means, even in this day and age of inflated salaries for top footballers in India. Under no illusion can the family-backed Churchill be considered to have the phenomenal financial and otherwise backing of a Kolkata giant, but they did their best to cover their interests in convincing Odafe (for a possibly lower sum than alternatives) and the others (for deservedly enhanced packages) to remain. Maybe it's a good sign about the professionalization of the game that successful players are acting more maturely in their ways to ensure better more sustained success over the entirety of their career. Odafe might have taken into consideration the reverence he is held in by his Goan followers, and how well his family is settled. Kalu and Felix might have taken into consideration their personal comfort in playing in a settled environment with their good friend and captain. The many improved north-easterners might have taken into consideration their own development as footballers from their time of graduation at TFA and other small places, their regular opportunities to play day in day out to demonstrate their mettle. The fact these youngsters showed the maturity en-masse three years ago to shun the black-holes of promising talent that are the Kolkata big-two, meant that it was probably no surprise they were able to weigh up their priorities this time around too, when an enticing move could well be one wrong turn too many god forbid an injury or drop in form under the pressure cooker of expectations happened to see them dropped like stones and regress in their careers. Then there is the small matter of the Asian competition. For footballers of top quality, pitting themselves against better opposition is in itself a huge incentive to excel. It is a kind of positive motivation, where over-par performances are fulfilling. On the other hand, the Kolkata duo, perennially the subject of negative motivation in terms of their fear of failure and looking to somehow establish themselves in India first, have hardly made a dent in AFC Cups. Meanwhile, the two other teams to have taken part with some regularity, Mahindra and Dempo, have consistently shown themselves to raise the bar of their performances and results, when competing in Asia. That is probably what we should expect, unsurprisingly, from Churchill too in the upcoming season. For the Band of Brothers, in staying together, could help to build successfully on the strong foundations they themselves have helped to establish.
[Goanet] Emulate Gujarat's agricultural success
On 7 May 2009 (as appeared in Economic Times) ASHOK GULATI GANGA SHREEDHAR said - Emulate Gujarat's agricultural success! Read more on this by clicking the link provided here below: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Emulate-Gujarats-agricultural-su ccess/articleshow/4493375.cms After reading above article please do answer: Is there any agriculture land left unoccupied or captured by our Builders in connivance with our Congress MLAs? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Information Fr. Vincent Catao
My condolences to you Marcos. A life well lived and one to be celebrated. Roland. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Jean Marcos Catao cata...@yahoo.com wrote: For information of all those who studied with, or at least were boarders under him, that my brother, Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona after fracturing the hip bone following a fall. The funeral is set for the 10th. Info from the Provincial House, POONA. Marcos Gomes-Catao -- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
Re: [Goanet] Information Fr. Vincent Catao
Thanks Marcos, for the post, and my condolences on the death. Heard this from Fr Cecil in Sawantwadi too. Because Fr Catao was a strict disciplinarian -- and he came to our school in Mapusa soon after a series of 'popular' (or lenient, depending on your point of view) principals -- he was often misunderstood. If I recall right, he came sometime in 1977, and the SSC class of that year just freaked out. They just couldn't cope with his strictness. As manifested, for example, in a fiat of avoiding any hair covering their ears (considered very fashionable in those years) or having their bush-shirts (the term used in Goa) not tucked into their pants! The year later, 1978, Fr Catao worked on a quality- control experiment. He falled all but 25 boys, and this select band of two-dozen-plus-one managed to get 100% results when they sat the board exams. Yet, it left a bitter taste for many, I guess, going by the grumbling. Our batch was used to Fr Catao. As for myself, I understood that beyond his strict exterior, there was a kind and caring person. One day, he noticed me limping around school, with my toes all bruised. Granted leave for three days, he wrote on my calendar, without me even asking. A man of few words, I don't recall having any talk with him that lasted more than two minutes. But perhaps, in those times, we respected and feared our principals. In class though, he could make us laugh with a few of his jokes and pet phrases which we were all used to. This reads better than a novel, he would chide us, when he wanted to goad us into reading something. His civics class helped us understand the issues crystal clear, even if they didn't quite prepare us to cope with the real-life rough and tumble of the Indian political system! If I recall right, he taught us English grammar, and was a great fan of that time-tested old warhorse made of paper called the Wren Martin. By the time we had to leave school ourselves, I (and some others too, I guess) had come to respect the man. When we met up at a reunion a couple of years ago, we took a photo and captioned it 'Fr Catao's boys'. (Our French teacher, Madame Christine Pereira of Colvale, who since passed away, is also in the photo. So are Joseph Victoria, Gabru, Raymond, Reginald, Avinash Misquita). We felt shaped positively by him in our youth. Yes, there is place for strictness in our world too! FN 2009/5/9 Jean Marcos Catao cata...@yahoo.com: For information of all those who studied with, or at least were boarders under him, that my brother, Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona after fracturing the hip bone following a fall. The funeral is set for the 10th. Info from the Provincial House, POONA. Marcos Gomes-Catao -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com You can always tell a Texan, but not much. - Unknown
Re: [Goanet] Why can't Goa think beyond mining?
Dear Mr. Mendonza, I fully agree with your comments and hope this debate advances to evoke more ideas Regards Tony Fernandes Dubai On 5/9/09, Marshall Mendonza wrote: Samir, That was a very interesting and thought provoking article. May I add some of my own thoughts to your thought process?
[Goanet] Migrant Control in Goa is Critical
I strongly oppose views of critics opposing migrant controls in Goa. Of course, we know that migrations have taken place for centuries; not only in Goa but also around the world. But we also should know that today, despite these migrations, various countries (including Western Nations) and other Indian States are keen to keep their respective identities languages. Yes, most other countries and States like Goa, still have outside migrant inflow into their local populations but please let us appreciate some key facts (1) Most of these countries and other Indian states have large populations to withstand current influx of migrants and hence new migrants will NOT significantly affect their local identities/languages and in time will also start, in some measure, to integrate into their adopted countries/states (2) Many Western Nations agreeably need migrants but are putting more more policies in place, to localize immigrants. Surely critics will appreciate that Goa is different with respect to its size, population capacity i.e. the current rapid rate of uncontrolled migrant influx is too high be integrated into Goa; needless to say the strain it will put on Goa’s scarce resources and also increased traffic, pollution, contamination etc. Today about 40% of Goa’s population is Non-Goan. If un-checked, Goans will soon go into a minority. So looking at it practically, will it be Non-Goans being integrated into Goan Identity, Language Culture or will it actually be the other way around i.e. Goans forced to integrate into the multitude migrant identities/languages and which will of course mean, the Ultimate of Goa’s Identity, Culture Language!! If the latter is what the critics want then, then can they at least have the courage to declare Goa, as India’s first cosmopolitan state with no distinct local language/identity!! Arwin Mesquita (UAE) -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/therapeofgoa/therapeofgoa.html 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/therapeofgoa/therapeofgoa.html 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/therapeofgoa/therapeofgoa.html 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona
-- On Sat, 9/5/09, Jean Marcos Catao cata...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Jean Marcos Catao cata...@yahoo. com Subject: [ExStudents_ StPauls_StJoseph s_Belgaum] Information Fr. Vincent Catao To: belgaum students exstudents_stpauls_ stjosephs_ belg...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 8:17 PM For information of all those who studied with, or at least were boarders under him, that my brother, Fr. Vincent GOMES-CATAO expired to-day (9th May) in Poona after fracturing the hip bone following a fall. The funeral is set for the 10th. Info from the Provincial House, POONA. Marcos Gomes-Catao rene barreto; http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Identify this beautiful Church (with Prev. Answers)
I am impressed with the churches that JoeGoaUK has been showing us lately. All of them are freshly painted, well maintained and in excellent repair. This is in marked contrast to some of the churches in Bombay or compared to what these churches looked many years ago. Is this because of selling of church properties thereby generating funds that will one day be exhausted or is it that parishioners who are doing well for themselves have been very generous in their support to have a village church they can be proud of. Keen to know. Roland. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:38 PM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516199144/sizes/l/ Sat. Evening Mass going on - Today http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/sizes/l/
Re: [Goanet] Yesterday, we had lunch at Marietta.
Dear Joe, Glad to hear you had lunch at Marietta's. How was the food? Regards, Victor --- On Sat, 5/9/09, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Yesterday, we had lunch at Marietta. To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 4:08 PM Yesterday, we had lunch at Marietta. I guess this restaurant is about 50 years old. I also understand it was named after one of the owner’s daughters. Many Ponnjekar will remember this restaurant. See pic. It’s near the Geeta Bakery. We just had simple xit-coddi (Fish curry Rice). Rs. 30 (see pics) This is the first time I ever been to this restaurant. Infact, I only saw it same day although I heard about it some years ago. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3512753810/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Indian business students turn to Hitler for inspiration
Ref. exchange of notes between Mario Goveia and Marshal Mendonza In my personal opinion RSS wallahs and Shiv Sainiks who entertain the idea that they can cleanse India a la nazism of Adolf Hitler, are the most stupid people India has ever produced. During the Second World War, Jews and gypsies were a tiny minority in Continental Europe whereas Muslims, Christians, Outcastes, Untouchables and tribals consist of more than half the population of India. How can an influential minority of brahmins and banyas get rid of more than half population of India is beyond my comprehension. Let Good God forbid it is not the other way around. Antonio
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Aga Dhukra, Vittailem Muga
Aga Dhukra, Vittailem Muga Jevnachea mezar voilo-poilo zago tum muga dhukor, chukoinastana gheta.Tonddank udkam haddtole tujea ruchik masache jinos aslea viret porbechem mez sobhona, odik korun festankar Goykaranchem. Jivo astana tum bhurxo asta khoro, punn tuka marlea uprant, gostan tujem mas khatana tuji voddvik uloilea xivai konnachoch soromb sompona. Tujea masachim poramporik chevrisam, her zon’vorachea masak sor korunk zainant, hem tor sot ani sotuch thartolem. Dekhunuch, ak’khea sonvsarak tum famad. Ek Konknnilean opar asa. Dhukor posunkui vhellear roddta ani marunkui vhellear roddta. Punn hea disamni tum roddonastana, tujea koddsun ail’li swine-flu dovdiri pidda akh’kea sonvsarak roddoita muga. Lhan astana ami aikololem. Goyant aslole dhukor zatik May-Junh mhoineant ek pidda zatali mhunn. Ani ti pidda chodd korun kazum pikechea disamni kazu-pudde khavpak ganvantlim dhukram dongurlear vhetalim tednam tachem thaim ran’votti dhukram (boars), ghorchea dhukrim kodde som’bond zodddun piddeche zontu (virus)ditale khoim. Ani tech dhukrim kodde ghorche pelvont sologamni sombond zoddtoch tankam zontu lagtalo ani te menge koxe zatale. Magir ge!!! Dhukrancher duens ailam mhunn boball zatalo ani kaim disam uprant porot ganvchea festanchea nanvan, dukhranchim mornnam zatalim. Bhat-bhens vo anik kosolai kharanank lagon zhogddem-kestanv pettlem zalear, kaim lok ragachea vellar ‘tum dhukrachea kastacho’ oxem mhonnon aplo rag-kirodd kaddtale ani atam kitem kai mhollear ‘you bloody swine-flu’ mhonnon kestanvam choddoitat. Adim soireank, ixtt-mittrank jevnnank amontronn dilear ‘dhukrachem mas-sorpottel’ astolem kaim mhunn vichari punn atam ‘swine flu’ na zalear partek dilolem amontron, svikar kortat. Eka kallar gostan tujem mas khavpi lok, atam tujer sapuch bejarla ani vittela mhunn tuka ugddas korpak, tujem ruchin mas khatolea, mhojea osleank vaitt dista. Atanch nhoi, jednam survatek prithum ani prithumicher jiv rochtolea Rochnaran dhukrak rochlolo ten’na thavn xirap asa. Dusri Somurt-in (Deuteronomy) Adlo Kororan dhukrachem mas khavchem nhoi ani melolea modeak hat porian launcho nhoi mhunn xiddkaileat. Ani Novea Kororan mon’xancher bosul’le devchar bhair sorun dhukramni rigle ani dhoryan vorun buddoun marle, oxem amkam St. Lukas-a vorvim kollta. Yeo-yeo…!! Ge yeo..!, avaz dilear, xetantlo roilolo vepar chorun khatana to soddun, ulo martoleak pall divn dhanvun-dhanvun ghorantlem nigut dhonn ani uril’leo vostu khavunk beg-begim yetalo. Punn atam ganvbhor khochro (garbage) tuka melltolean ghorchea nigut khannachi fikir na. Ani te khochreant kuslolim ghann martolim khanna khavun tujea pottant aslole piddeche devchar challvolun Amerikent ani Europi desant poddlole ‘swine fly’ pidde toren Goyantui toslich pidda lagot mhunn bhirant asa. Ani tea pasot Amchea Goyant khubxea ganvamni dhukrank postat. Saxttintlean ani Bardesan chodd Kristi lok aslolea ganvamni dukhramchi zat chodduch dista vo asa. Chodd Hindu lok aslolea ganvamni thoddim Kristi ghoram asat ani bhov thoddea lokangher dhukrank postat. Adim thavn ani az meren amchem Hindu-Kristanvanchem natem bore chol’lam. Punn atam mhaka ek vhodd husko zala. Mhojem mon mhaka sotoita ani Goykarank ani Goychea sorkarak zagrut korunk vinonti korta. Hey Dukhra! Zori tor tuji swine-flu pidda Hindu vattarantleant suru zali ani ti zoddar poddli tor, Hindu bhav-bhoinnam Kristanvancher ragar zatolim, ani tuka lagon itlea vorsantlem amche borelem natem piddear zait zalear, khub vaitt zatolem. Dekhunuch, hanvem khor nichev korun ani soglle vichar mhojea mhorean dovorun xevottachea panvddear ailam. Ekuch urlam. Mhoji yevzonn sorkari Bholaike Khatem odhikaranchea nodrek ghalcheli. Havem toyar kel’li yevzonn mhollear, Goybhor dhukranchi sonsot asa ti natak korcheli ani devchari swine-flu pidde koddsun Goychem vattovoronn nigut samballpachem. Konnacho virodh asa? Lino B. Dourado
[Goanet] G’bye Goa: Asuras/Gawdas - HERALD (Goa), May 10, 2009
G’BYE GOA: ASURAS/GAWDAS By Valmiki Faleiro Next to arrive in Goa were the Asuras. They marked a change. While earlier settlers, Mhars and Gonvllis, came from South India, Asuras pioneered an influx from central India. They came from Chota Nagpur. Originally belonging to North-East India, some believe Goa’s Asuras migrated via South India. Asuras subjugated the older settlers. They tilled land and, by trial and error, developed Goa’s marvels called ‘khazans’ (reclaimed mud flats that can also take in tidal water.) They planted trees, made utensils of clay and stone, and produced salt. They pioneered paddy cultivation, sown by villagers in rotation, thus developing the village commune, or ‘Ganvkari’ system of collective ownership of village lands. They founded the institution of ‘Bara-zan,’ under which a cluster of 12 villages formed one administrative unit. Subjugated by Kols centuries later, Asuras dissipated into diverse occupations. Some became potters (‘Kumbhars,’ reckoned to be Goa’s oldest craftsmen), some turned into blacksmiths (‘Kamars’), a few took to trading and became Vanis, some continued to produce salt (‘Mitt Gawde,’ a term that in later usage covered people from other castes, including Brahmins, who owned vast salt pans.) The rest toiled as land labourers (the ‘Gawdas.’) There is much confusion between this tribe and the Kols/Kunnbis who followed them. Both are of the same racial stock, worship the same gods and bear near identical customs, but are different social groups. Gawdas will abhor being called Kunnbis, and vice versa. Some believe the difference between Kunnbis and Gawdas lies in their racial origin – while Kunnbis are of pure South Indian stock, Gawdas had their bloodlines mixed with Indo-Aryans! This was echoed in German anthropologist, Gustav Oppert’s postulation that ‘Gawda’ came from ‘Gau’ or ‘Go,’ the cow, which is closely linked to Indo-Aryan traditions, as in ’Panchagauda’/‘Gaud’ Saraswat Brahmins. Gawdas, they say, were cowherds. The Gawda-Kunnbi confusion gets confounded among Goan Catholics. The Portuguese began that confusion. Alien to local language and lore, their own inability to pronounce much of the local idiom, further limited by the Roman alphabet versus the versatile Devanagri, they recorded native words the best way they could. Often, in the process, murdering the original word or its nuance. As in “Curumbim/Curumbina” – an umbrella word that made Gawdas synonymous with Kunnbis. Portuguese-speaking locals continued the ‘Curumbim’ tradition. Some believe that Kunnbi is the Hindu version of the Catholic Gawda. Others think reverse: that a Gawda, on conversion to Christianity, became a Kunnbi. In parts of Salcete, Catholic Gawdas and Kunnbis are bracketed as ‘Kunnbis’ while Hindu counterparts are called ‘Kokon- Kunnbis.’ The Gawda-Kunnbi mix-up was also aided by other similarities between them. Like the near identical ‘kapod’ (coarse sari) their womenfolk wore, the subtle difference in colour and style of draping indiscernible to non-tribal eyes. Like their common chief deity: Mallikarjun, adapted from the Dhangar god they captured, Moko/Makhajan. Festivals of both were common, but with slight differences in the manner of their celebration, like the song-dance ‘Fugddi.’ And ‘Zagor’ (which became ‘Khell’ in the Portuguese era.) Gawdas consider themselves ‘superior’ to Kunnbis. They exist in large numbers in Karnataka and Orissa. Their tribe name is often invoked pejoratively in Goa. It is honorific elsewhere. One of them, Deve Gowda, was Prime Minister of India. Indo-Aryan Goans equated the Gawda with a ‘reddo’ (a water buffalo, unintelligent.) Salcete Catholics compared Gawdas of one village, Loutulim, to a land-tilling section of caste Brahmins of another village, Curtorim. Even if the village nickname (‘redde’) belonged to a third, neighbouring village, Chandor! Like Mhars, Asuras believed in the existence of spirits, via their encompassing deity, ‘Rouduro’ (absorbed as ‘Rudra’ by Indo-Aryans into their own ‘Trimurti’ in the Vedas, changed to ‘Shiva’ in latter-day Upanishads.) This was Goa’s first community to offer human sacrifice – later toned down to hanging men from wooden stakes, with iron hooks pierced into their backs. (More on this in ‘Kols’ next Sunday.) Animal sacrifice was common, particularly of he-goats and roosters – like Kols, in different colours for different divinities! After all, both lived in and came to Goa from the same geo location in central India. (ENDS.) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the May 10, 2009 edition of the Herald, Goa
[Goanet] Daily Grook #401
DAILY GROOK #401 SWEET MEET _ by Francis Rodrigues beachy barbecue fed us a treat, welcomed us to meat and grit! _ puns word-play of all kinds, hey...read between the lines! _ _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Identify this beautiful Church (with Prev. Answers)
Dear Joe. Thank you most heartilly for taking me along with you to the Church of the Saviour of the World in which generations of my progenitors, I, three of my four children hopefully my emerging grandchildren have been Christened. Maura, my eldest daughter Francesco Regalli, were also married therein a few years ago. Their children, Santiago, 4 Lilja, 3 the socond honourable daughter, Sanna's daughter, Sacha Luna, 2, still await induction... Have I guessed correctly??? Alfred Lotlecar... Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:38:45 + From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Identify this beautiful Church (with Prev. Answers) The Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516199144/sizes/l/ Sat. Evening Mass going on - Today http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516198194/sizes/l/ The 3 golden Altars http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516196928/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3516196928/sizes/l/ the main http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515384599/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515384599/sizes/l/ Close-up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515386237/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3515386237/sizes/l/ clues: It's in South Goa It's 1581 Church Click on any one link. Or click on Second link for bigger view == Previous Answers: Please identify these two Churches 1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3511954779/sizes/l/ 1565, Salvador do Mundo (Savior of the World) This was captured from a bus on the way to Olaulim 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3505743566/sizes/l/ 1595 St. Alex Church, Calangute This was captured same day as Saligao Church Feast On the way to Candolim/River Princess beach joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
[Goanet] LTTE looking to infiltrate from western coast: Indian Navy
LTTE looking to infiltrate from western coast: Indian Navy Text Panaji, May 9 (IANS) The Tamil Tigers, fighting for survival against the Sri Lankan army, may try to infiltrate into India through the western coast, a top naval officer said here Saturday. Southern naval command's Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief Vice Admiral S.K. Damle said: We have to make sure that our coastal borders are secure and allow no unauthorised elements to come into our country. The officer said that tight vigil along the Tamil Nadu coast has forced the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Ealem (LTTE) to look for other areas to infiltrate. He said that there have been reports of movement of LTTE boats off the western coast. LTTE is not a question of today. Earlier too we found that the moment the Indian Navy increased vigil along the Tamil Nadu coast, many unauthorised persons, including the LTTE, were coming in from the west coast, Damle said. Damle, who was in Goa to to attend a passing out parade of cadets at INS Mandovi, also said that there is no cooperation between the Indian and Sri Lankan navies. The Sri Lankan navy is acting on their own for their own security and there is no direct coordination between the southern naval command and the Sri Lankan navy, Damle told reporters. Commenting on the slow pace of development vis-a-vis reinforcing the coastal defence mechanism, Damle said that while state officials were doing their best, it was still not good enough. He also advocated better interaction with fishermen and other marine agencies for increased vigilance on India's coast.
[Goanet] Local / Dalit Christians demand their own bishops
Poor Christian Liberation Movement (PCLM) Office: 51 A, Sector – 4, B.S.Marg, New Delhi – 110 001 Co-Office:- IIIA/145, Rachana, Vashali – 201010 (NCR) India Telefax 0120, 4569131 Cell. 9810108046 Email:-francisp...@yahoo.com www.Dalitchristian.org Press Release Local / Dalit Christians demand their own bishops Electrd by local people, not by Vatican Bhopal , May 6, 2009 : Mr. R.L. Francis is the National President of the Dalit Christians organization known as ‘Poor Christian Liberation Movement’ (PCLM). On May 2, 2009, in Bhopal, Mr. R.L. Francis along with his companions, Rev. Fr. William Premdass Chaudhary and Mr. P.B. Lomeo (Editor of the Church Restoration, Bhopal, Monthly) toured to the Christians colonies in Bhopal and listened and discussed local / Dalit Christians’ problems. Mr. Francis says that the churches are responsible for the pathetic condition for Dalit Christians in India. Mr. Francis says that church authorities are spending cores of rupees in order to spread their kingdom through preaching. There are around two hundred (200) catholic dioceses, in India, which follow rules and regulation of Vatican and in the coming of fifty years (50) there will be more dioceses in India. Mr. Francis says that if Catholic Church spends more money for the development and enlistment rather than on preaching then the condition of Dalit Christians, who are wounded sheep of this fold, will improve their condition and they will have better opportunity in their lives. Mr. France says that the church authorities have best educational institutions in India. There are about four to five per cent Christian population in India but churches have hold on around twenty two per cent (22%) of educational institutions and thirty per cent (30%) of health care. Next to government, the churches are the biggest land owners in India. In spite of having enough facilities with the church yet Dalit Christians’ condition is deteriorating. There are fifteen per cent (15%) Dalit Christians in the cities and forty per cent (40%) Dalit Christians in the rural areas are illiterate in spite of having best convent schools in the church. Thousand of Tribal girls are forced to do the work as Aaya in the rich families. These girls are coming from Tribal areas where there are no job opportunities. These girls (Aayas) are physically molested and mentally tortured. Churches are not taking enough care of these girls. In Madhya Pradesh (M.P.) alone, in spite of less Christians population, catholic church have cores of rupees and enough means to provide better education and job to Dalit Christians. In Madhya Pradesh the church have more then one hundred and fifty (150) High schools and half of them are convent schools. In Bhopal alone catholic church have the property, movable and unmovable, worth of more than six hundred crores (600) yet Christians’ condition is not improved. The church property and money are being used by the authorities as they wish. The members of Poor Christian Liberation Movement, Rev. Fr. William Predass Chaudhary and Mr. P.B. Lomio explained to the local Christians about Mr, Anand Benard’s, who is the only member of minority commission of Madhay Pradesh government, suggestion to the M.P. government to form like a Waqf bord. If the M. P. government forms such kind of bord then we must welcome the government’s step and the Christians will have no loss at all. On August 27, 2004, Poor Christian Liberation Movement had given a memorandum to the Honorable Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohon Singh to form such kind of committee to control the properties of churches. Last year June 6, 2008, Poor Christian Liberation Movement had organized a National Convention at India Islamic Cultural Centre, 87-88 Lodi Road, New Delhi-110003. From all over India there were three hundred (300) representatives who repeated the demand to form committees to look after church properties. The National President of PCLM, Mr. R.L. Frances says that if the Waqf board has no credibility or the Muslim community bearing any loss then the Muslim community will not allow such king of board. But they are benefiting from Waqf board. If such kind of board / committee is formed to safeguard the properties of churches then Christian community should not oppose it. There may be such kind of people who may oppose for their own sake. Such kind of people astray the Christian community from the main issue. The properties and money are being misused by leaders of churches and rich people The educational institutions are being run by the upper caste rather than Dalit Christians who are deprived from all the facilities in the churches. Thus upper caste people are enjoying both properties and educational facilities. Poor Christian Liberation Movement regrets about the behavior of church authorities who are collecting money from national and international level in
[Goanet] Muslim Demographics
An undeniable trend, or skewed statistics designed by fundamentalist Christians to scare. Which is it? See the seven and a half minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU -- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
[Goanet] Muslim Demographics
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[Goanet] Christian strongly condemns interference by the Church in the Lok Sabha election
I would like to thank Marshall for bringing to my notice the article entitled Hindu Ayatollahs, the link that you privided being: http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2fodname=20090427fname=Co lumn+Neelabh+%28F%29sid=1 To my mind, the operative part of the article is: This is because Advani has written to over 1,000 religious leaders, most of them Vishwa Hindu Parishad-affiliated sadhus/sants, earnestly assuring them: It will be my endeavour (as prime minister) to seek on a regular basis the guidance of spiritual leaders of all denominations on major challenges and issues facing the nation. For this, we shall evolve a suitable consultative mechanism. Clearly the guidance that Advani is seeking is from spiritual leaders of ALL denominations, and not just Hindus. In the very nature of the situation in India, the majority of the spiritual leaders would be Hindus, and, perhaps, a majority of these would be affiliated with the VHP in some way or another. If a political leader in the USA, say, had sent a letter to the spiritual leaders in his country, the majority would have been Christian. So, I think, the heading of the article is a mischievous one. I also think that it is deliberate. However, I think that Advani had no business to send the letter at all. The spiritual leaders can make their own comments, as they deem fit. Just as social leaders do. But to form a consultative mechanism is fraught with danger. I, however, do not appreciate the comment made by Marshall on R L Francis whom you identified as follows: (He( is an old disgruntled hand. He has no credibility and no following. He sole claim to fame is being propped up by the sangh parivar to embarrass the Church from time to time. I think the appropriate comment is: Don't shoot the messenger! The issue here is whether the points raised by Francis (I really do not know who he is) are valid or not. I hope Marshall is not saying that because they are being stated by one who is 'propped by the sangh' they should be ignored. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] The New Face of Hinduism
The New Face of Hinduism Will Mayawati usher in the new face of Hinduism? Will Manu have to undergo serious surgery after a few millennium - are a couple of questions we could idle our time with as we wait for the results of the MP elections. Will the spirit of Dr. Ambedkar be rekindled, in his famous words - I was born a Hindu but will not die a Hindu - be the way forward for millions of underdogs of the caste system? If the BJP is the Mother India for the upper castes, will Mother Mayawati be the hope of Indians of lower castes? Whatever is your opinion on the subject, Indian society is at the crossroads, and the caste system which is at the very heart of Hinduism will have to be discussed at great length, from bottom to the top in the Indian subcontinent. Is the idea of caste scientific? You do something bad in your previous life and you are punished in this life or you do something bad in this life and you will be punished in the next? Is this scientific? It is said, if you put your hand in fire you will be burnt instantly. Is this true?
