[Goanet] Migrant influx changes Goa's demographics
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Migrant influx changes Goa's demographics PANJIM, JULY 28 While the natural growth of population in Goa is on the downslide, the decadal growth is attributed much to the in-migration even as the median age of marriage in Goa is 24 among women and 29-31 among men - considered as one of the highest in the country. The natural growth of population - that is birth rate less death rate - has progressively declined from 1.2 per cent in 1991 to 0.8 per cent in 2001, says the Economic Survey 2008-09 presented in the Goa assembly. The average natural growth is 1.06 per cent per annum. Goa is one of the seven States in the country where fertility is below replacement level, the National Family Health Survey had found out. To make matters worse for Goa there is out-migration. And as such the population increase, though marginal, is also attributed to in-migration. Of the total population estimated at 13.5 lakh as per 2001 census figures, 2.64 lakh are migrants from other States. This comes to around one-fifth of the total population of the State. As of now, analysts feel this in real terms will be much higher. The latest Economic Survey report says the highest decadal growth was between 1960-71, that is the first 10 years after Goa's Liberation in 1961. The decadal growth was a whopping 34.77 per cent showing the sudden influx of people from other States mainly neighbouring States mostly for government jobs and others. The trend continued for another 10 years when 26.74 per cent was the decadal growth as the population reached 10 lakh in 1981. From 1981-91, the growth was 16.08 per cent followed by 15.21 per cent in the next decade. Religion-wise: In four decades, the Hindu population went up from 3.53 lakh in 1960 to 8.86 lakh in 2001 while that of Christian rose very slowly from 2.24 lakh since 1960 to 3.59 lakh in 2001. The Muslim population was 11,505 in 1960 and it reached 92,210 over 40 years in 2001. But strongly supported by politically-motivated forces, an impression is created that the Muslim population has grown manifold as if it has overtaken other religions. Some deliberately show the growth rate in percentages to create hatred against certain religious groups. Practically, the decadal growth of Hindu population was by more than a lakh. In the first decade after Liberation, the increase in Hindu population was nearly 1.4 lakh, probably a significant percentage from outside Goa. The decadal growth from 1971- 1981 was by more than 1.5 lakh. In the following two decades, the growth was by 1.1 lakh and 1.3 lakh till 2001. As for Christians, the decadal growth from 1960 to 1971 was around 46,000 followed by 45,000-odd in the next decade. The downslide began in the 80s when the decadal growth was only by 34,000-odd and it took the lowest ebb in the last decade. The Christian population rose only by around 10,000 in 10 years ending 2001. The Muslim population went up by around 15,000 each in the first two decades after Liberation. In 1991, it had increased by 20,000 and in 2001 by 30,000 in 10 years which obviously was mainly due to in-migration. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=25176cid=2
[Goanet] Does your doctor judge you based on your color? - CNN.com
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Goanetters, Here's food for thought. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/23/doctors.attitude.race.weight/index.html Have a super day. Rubygoes (WOMAN OF COLOUR!)
[Goanet] Goa a world state in 5 years?
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Sure, some of the salient points of this world state are going to be: 1) Salcete, Bardez, Tiswadi will all come under mining cover. 2) There will be at least 100 more Mahanands. 3) Goa will be the sex tourism capital of the world. 4) Goa will also be the mafia capital of the world. 5) There will be only construction all around; there won't be any fields left. regards, Samir
[Goanet] 'A law should govern church properties'
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html 'A law should govern church properties' TNN 29 July 2009, 01:21am IST PANAJI: Church properties should have a law governing them, but the law should be created in consultation with the church. That was what speakers at a seminar on Should there be a law to protect church property?', held on Tuesday had to say. There is only one possible answer -- Yes. The reason is, any activity ungoverned by law is lawlessness and would lead to arbitrariness, said retired Supreme Court judge justice K T Thomas, the key note speaker at the seminar. Article 26 of the Constitution guarantees religious denominations the right to establish and maintain institutions and to own and acquire properties. This is a very crucial right. You may own and acquire properties, you may maintain your institutions, but in the matter of administration of your properties you have to abide by the law, said Thomas. Pointing to the objections to such a law, Thomas said there are two objections, one that some churches (Episcopal) have their own rules and regulations and second that the laws passed may appropriate the properties. According to me, both objections are without any force. The mere fact that some denominations have their own internal regulations is not sufficient to say that they are governed by the law envisaged in Article 26 of the Constitution. The second objection is a misplaced apprehension. No such law can be passed by which properties of any religious denomination can be appropriated, said Thomas. Commissioner for NRI affairs, Eduardo Faleiro said the present law regulating relations between the church and the state as well as administration of church properties was created by a concordatta or treaty signed between the Vatican and the Portuguese government in 1940. The law has been repealed in Portugal as it was deemed unconstitutional after Portugal gained democracy in 1974. Faleiro said the existing law in Goa should be modified to the extent it was modified in Portugal. The legislative assembly is competent to enact a new law as this is within the legislative powers granted to it by the concurrent list in the seventh schedule of the Constitution, said Faleiro. It will be a mistake to bring in a law and make the church adhere to it. There should be consultations between the state and the church before drafting the law, Faleiro said. The seminar was organized by the All Indian Catholic Union (Goa state) and the Goa Cultural and Social Centre. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Goa/A-law-should-govern-church-properties/articleshow/4831876.cms
[Goanet] Vasco Saptah - Video clip
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html In this Video.. The Church, Hiralal, Swantra Path, temple in and out, The fair, my favourite jelebies (making), Vasco Municipal Park, La paz Gardens, amusement park- giant wheel etc The famous 7 day Vasco Saptah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v12PlqM0o9Q pics were posted earlier today joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY - UAE
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html == O Goemkars ! For the 1st Time in the Middle East. UAE to host WORLD GOA DAY on the 7th of August, 2009 http://www.cynthiafernandes.com/flyer.html http://www.cynthiafernandes.com/goadaydubai.html http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/ If you are a Goan and Proud to be , you too can join us in these Global Goan celebrations - Just DO IT ! rene barreto === WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 A day set aside to CELEBRATE our Goan Cultural Heritage, a day to promise to help the less fortunate in our Goan community: === O
[Goanet] Sex determination (Was: Church vs State)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html * * Because the Y chromosome has a gene that determines the formation of testes. It is called the SRY gene and it codes for a protein called TDF (testis determining factor).Cheers,Santosh - Reply: In that case I have to agree with Fr Ivo and the Catholic Church that Homosexuality and Transgenderism is an 'Activity'. Thanks. Caj.
[Goanet] Goa a world state in 5 years? - Comments
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html In support of: Message: 12 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:06:31 -0400 From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa a world state in 5 years? - Comments Bull's eye Floriano !! Goa a world state in five years ? Fantasying could be a sin but certainly not a crime, on the other hand the ulterior motives behind the fantasy could very well be. zor rodtha pejek is the most common idiom that can be very well related to the fantasy of Digu Ali Baba and his chalis chor. All the talk about development is nothing else but a passage to the booty, Our ministers are overworking, when it comes to looking for means to lay their hand on as much loot as they can and that's where the big projects come in, the bigger the project, the bigger the loot, and Goa a world state in 5 years could be a project that could be the ultimate shrlimar for the present regime to retire on the moon, so like you said it's obvious that their salivary glands and their testosterones must gone into over drive in anticipation of the windfall to come. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Croton
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Some of the popular/common ‘croton’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3717600863/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3718416894/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3718418278/ During Saibinn or *Sant Anton etc we used to make vazes of the the branches by inserting each in a short bottle filled with water. It never needed watering, always remained fresh. Some weeks later, we found the end pat part of the stem full of while white roots. So, we dug a hole and plant them. And that's how we saw many crotons around the houses. Croton grows even by it branches - just break and pierce into the ground ideally during monsoon. * Like Saibinn, there was also a traditon where some people used to bring home an image of St. Anthony (the statue was at least 100-200 years old), Milagrose Saibinn traditon is for 1 day stay where as Sant Anton for 13 days. It needed booking well in advance sometimes 6-12 months. The miraculous St. Anton was from our place, Utorda. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Francis Rodrigues: Launch of Greatest Konkani Song Hits, Vol. 1
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Courtesy : Goan Voice Uk http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ Francis Rodrigues: Launch of Greatest Konkani Song Hits, Vol. 1 The Greatest Konkani Song Hits, Vol. 1 a revolutionary musical volume by Canadian-Goan Francis Rodrigues, launches on World Goa Day, 20 August. The work features original transcriptions of popular Konkani music of the past 50 years. Launch dates: Goa (Kala Academy) -9 Aug. U.K. (Staines) 15 Aug. - for details click here. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QKPfld9QLHU/Smil330ZdbI/EV4/4NWBC7sp-74/s1600-h/STAINES%2BTODAY%2B%2BFINALS.png Canada - 20 Aug and U.S. (San Francisco) - 30 Aug. For free extracts, click here. http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ For video clips click here. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videossearch_query=%22KONKANI%2BSONG%2BBOOK%22search_sort=video_view_count WORLD GOA DAY 2009 - events : http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/ TOGETHER we have MADE IT HAPPEN ! rene barreto === WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 A day set aside to CELEBRATE our Goan Cultural Heritage, a day to promise to help the less fortunate in our Goan community: ===
Re: [Goanet] To US sponsor a Goa priest.
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html My maternal uncle a priest in Toronto for 30 years now retired, had similar experiences. Goa priests from Salcete who came recommended through his Rachol seminary colleagues would contact him for filling some vacations in Portuguese speaking Toronto parishes. Inevitably these Goa priests would either leave at the end of their term with some financial scandal behind them in the parish they assisted, or would extend their stay without either my uncle knowing about it or the local Bishop's permission. This would leave my uncle in an embarrassing position, he being a person who throughout his life would always dot his i's and cross his t's. One of these priests left with collections from 6 Sundays and another would make enough money on the basis of his pleas to help indigent parishioners in Goa to allow him to gamble almost daily at the Panjim Caravella with big stakes for the rest of the year back home. Talk to him about helping priests from Goa wanting to come to Toronto and my uncle will disappear from the room faster then if someone yells earthquake. Roland. A long tradition, Goa priests spent eight weeks in US parishes, filling in for natives on vaction. Short term visas were easily arranged. That situation has changed on account of falling revenues, and parishes now cope without the extra help. A priest in Goa asked me for a letter of guarantee, and that should have raised a yellow signal : It turns out he did not have a job offer, and prospects of landing one are dim. He now informs me that a full subsidy of his travel costs and visa fees would greatly extend an old friendship. Buyer beware, I suppose. eric.
Re: [Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Dear George, I had resolved not to answer your questions till you have responded to mine. Moreover, you had indicated that you would do so. Now you are playing dirty politics by raking up old unrelated issues to attempt to drive a wedge in the support base I have! Are you morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any ethical scruples? You write: I wonder who posted that Goa is a toilet? he published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago. To my list of questions could you also let us know 1. Who posted that Goa is a toilet? 2. Who published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago? I am more than happy to respond to these questions after you have answered the original questions. Please do so if you do not want to lose all credibility. Thanking you, Eddie Fernandes === George Pinto wrote: I wonder who posted that Goa is a toilet? he published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago.
[Goanet] British buying property in Goa.
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html If any Britishers have purchased property in Goa illegally, knowing how things happen in Goa, I am convinced that they were mis-led by realtors and lawyers in Goa. They came to Goa, fell in love with the place and wanted to live here in retirement. Naturally, one would seek out a professional to guide them through the property buying process. I feel that they must have been taken for a ride by unscrupulous individuals and are the victims. I dont mind having Britishers or Germans or whatever as my neighbors here in Goa. In every instance I have seen, they have purchased a diapidated home, renovated it and planted a beautiful garden and have become good neighbors, providing work opportunity to Goans. I have seen one beautiful home in Vaddem, Socorro where the house had been razed to the ground. The Britisher who purchased the property took the pains to find out what the old house that stood on the property looked like and reconstructed it as faithfully as possible, with modern materials including a modern version of the old ghaunti or spanish tiles, and has planted a beautiful garden. Dont mind having neighbors like this. Lets catch the real culprits, rather than the victims of these scam artists.
[Goanet] DNA variations linked to brain tumours - News
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html DNA variations linked to brain tumours. Con http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/news.asp?artid=13861title=DNA-variations-linked-to-brain-tumoursodr=page=1
Re: [Goanet] Does your doctor judge you based on your color? - CNN.com
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html 2009/7/29 Ruby Goes rubyg...@bigpond.com Goanetters, Here's food for thought. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/23/doctors.attitude.race.weight/index.html Have a super day. Rubygoes (WOMAN OF COLOUR!) RESPONSE: and we are continually being told that the USA has moved forward; does that mean that a Goan living in the rust belt would be treated differently from one say residing in San Diego or New York? In turn would they be treated better than a Black person and would a White person be treated better than them? Many of our Doctors and Nurses in the U.K. are non white, in fact the leading heart specialist is non white. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
Re: [Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html George Pinto 1: If the transaction is legal, no govt. or agency should intimidate legal parties. No govt. or agency should retrospectively change the law, or reverse a LEGAL transaction. I have been saying as much ALL ALONG.. jc 1: Grateful if GEORGE would please direct me (at least) to his posts in which he has 'been saying as much all along'. -- George Pinto 2: Yet Eddie .. writes this smear and Jose repeats it. JC 2: Grateful IF George would please identify the smear. -- George Pinto 3: Yet Eddie . his amazing claim that 100% of British national real estate transactions are legal with the caveat. JC 3: I do understand that some of us may have been 'liberated' by the Goviean logic of recent times, BUT Is George Pinto suggesting that it is AMAZING to state that a transaction is legal unless proved otherwise? Really! ? That is indeed amazing. -- George Pinto then takes a swipe at Eddie ...which I believe he is entitled to. A man is allowed to use all the monkey wrenches at his disposal in order to extricate himself from the the Mugabesque corner. George writes drawing attn to Eddie's 'Goa is a toilet' postings or repostings: George Pinto 4: May be the shortfall in tourism has to do with people posting Goa is a toilet some months back. Gee, I wonder who posted that Goa is a toilet? JC 4: No relationship to the perceived official illegality in the land transaction situation being discussed here ...BUT will say this: Beautiful Brochures attract a first, second 100th set of people. What they actually find there (toilet, corrupt cops, or coniving lawyers etc) will determine IF they will return. Word of mouth and blogs take care of that. (Please note the 'hot story' presently doing rounds about the scam at Thailand's new airport.) BTW: Especially when finances are tough, 'toilets' are not great spots to spend vacations unless one eats the pani puri from those 'ghati' road-side stalls. -- In another unrelated monkey wrench attack on Eddie by George Pinto, George Pinto 5: I wonder if Eddie asked himself about the fair and equitable thing to do as Jose writes above, when he published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago. JC 5: First of all, let's describe the piece correctly. It was a hit-and run piece. Now publishing that per se, cannot be classified as being 'unfair or inequitable' UNLESS Eddie failed to post any direct response to that article from the 'Toronto couple'. BTW: I am glad that George brought this up even by way of monkey 'wrenchedness'. Has the Goan community, even on this list, actually analysed WHO or WHAT was behind that horrible attack - not only on the Toronto couple, BUT also on the couple's young daughter? Has George Pinto asked any questions on the matter? Has he followed it up? IF NOT, why is he bring it up in the midst of this topic? Is he trying to ambush Eddie? If so, it appears that Fixed Nooj and the Goveians have had more effect on Goans than I hitherto believed they would. jc Até amanha
[Goanet] Adhering to healthy lifestyle habits associated with reduced lifetime risk of heart failure - News
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Reduce your chances of Heart failure. Con http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/news.asp?artid=13924
[Goanet] Robert Fisk: Why does life in the Middle East remain rooted in the Middle Ages? - Robert Fisk, Commentators - The Independent
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Why life in the Middle East ( where many of our compatriots work live) remain rooted in the middle ages. Reasons here. Con http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-does-life-in-the-middle-east-remain-rooted-in-the-middle-ages-1763252.html
Re: [Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Eddie Fernandes ed...@fernandes.u-net.com wrote: Dear George, I had resolved not to answer your questions till you have responded to mine. Please make whatever resolutions you wish. I have resolved not to answer any questions with someone who is pretending to bury his head in the sand and tries to convince us that 100% of the real estate transactions in Goa were legal by British nationals. It is like arguing with someone who insists that Santa Claus is real. If we do not agree on the core issue, forget it. I have already wasted enough time on an issue that not really concern me. And I apologize if I have wasted your time. Now you are playing dirty politics by raking up old unrelated issues to attempt to drive a wedge in the support base I have! Are you morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any ethical scruples? I see you are trying to further hang yourself by your own rope. From the smear (Mugabe), to the insult yesterday, to personalizing the issue now, I can see you are devoid of any arguments to extricate yourself. What can we expect tomorrow? You write: I wonder who posted that Goa is a toilet? he published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago. To my list of questions could you also let us know 1. Who posted that Goa is a toilet? 2. Who published a hit piece by a so-called journalist on a Toronto couple a year ago? You are a fine researcher. Do your own homework and don't worry about my credibility. I care two hoots (may be three) what people think of me. Regards, George
[Goanet] 'Illegal conversion of land should be dealt with severely
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:28:43 -0400 From: Goanet News Service n...@goanet.org 'Illegal conversion of land should be dealt with severely' TNN 29 July 2009, 02:05am IST PANAJI: Revenue laws need to be ammended to provide for harsh penalties such as filing of first information report (FIR) and registering the offence as cognizable, including seizure of construction material, if more stringent action is to be taken to serve as a deterrent for persons carrying out illegal conversions in Goa. Revenue minister Jose Philip D'Souza was replying to a calling attention motion moved by Priol MLA Pandurang Deepak Dhavalikar in the house on Tuesday. Dhavalikar stated that there was fear and anxiety in the minds of the people over cases of illegal conversion of agricultural land in Goa and the non-implementation of provisions of the Act/rules and laws made thereunder and the inaction of the government to tackle the issue effectively. In his reply, D'Souza said, I deny that there is fear and anxiety in the minds of the people for inaction or cases of illegal conversion of agricultural land. [end of excerpt] Mario observes: Memo to Carmen and Ana Maria Dear Ladies, I suggest you put Revenue minister Jose Philip D'Souza high on your list of people to talk to during Carmen's next trip to Goa. It sounds like he needs some help.
[Goanet] wrt opposing the retrospective effect of new law - does Britain have firm ankle to stand on?
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html While the two fine gentlemen i.e. Eddie Fernandes and George Pinto sort out their 'questions', I will take the liberty of stating two points: POINT 1: I believe that, at this point and time, both Eddie and George believe that UK citizens (or anyone else) who have bought land in Goa legally (or as Vivian has so correctly noted, without having done any illegality - to the best of their knowledge and the professional advice they received) should be allowed to get on with their lives in peace (and if I may add - without being harrassed by ignorant bigots, greedy lawyers, corrupt police and silly goose politicians) POINT 2: It has been my understanding that many (though not necessarily all) of those who bought homes in Goa, have done well for the homes and communities. Vivian has just confirmed my understanding. As long as they are NOT destroying the environment by way of : Cutting Down Hillsides and Decimating the greenery to make way for the Villas, Goa can only benefit from gradual and incremental investment into its land and infrastructual development. We Goans should welcome those who want to buy neglected houses with the intention of restoring them and living peacefully in them. On the matter of Retrospective Effects of legislation (and I know that the present circumstances in Goa are slightly different, but arguable when push comes to shove), Attached Infra is a snippet on the topic from my notes of a couple of years ago. In summary: When the people's interests are enough to over-ride 'principle', the British Parliament may legislate any Act - In India's case, if any Act violates the Constitution, the Supreme Court could hold it to be unconstitutional. It is important for us to know that: Britain has a slightly lame leg to stand on - in this matter. BUT, we should not immitate Britain in all her actions. Should we? In 1965, Britain and her Parliament got away with Retrospectively effective Legislation with No (written) Constitution to follow and No Supreme Court empowered to find its legislations as being unconstitutional. (After Oct 2000 ...of course, the Human Rights Act 1998 became effective) jc == Against Retrospective effect of new law: Courts operate a presumption or interpretation that Statutes will not operate retrospectively. It is one thing for Parliament to legislate that, for instance, as from next year all foxhunting will be illegal. It would be another thing for Parliament to legislate that Anyone who has participated in such an event during the last five years is open to prosecution today. The principle operates not only to stop people whose conduct was innocent at the time - from being convicted - by a Looking Back Act. Also - if an Act decriminalises certain conduct (say ...smoking pot) in 2006, It stops people who were guilty of the crime in 2005 from going free. As Parliament is a supreme body, it can pass retrospective legislation if it wishes. The War Damages Act 1965 was passed specifically to overrule the decision of the House of Lords in Burmah Oil Co Ltd v The Lord Advocate (1965) The Oil company's installations in Burma (then a British colony) had been destroyed by the British forces in 1942 in order to prevent them from being captured by the Japanese forces. The company (Burmah Oil - registered in Scotland) sued the Crown for compensation. The Crown contended that no compensation was payable when property was destroyed under the Royal Prerogative. The House of Lords decided that compensation was payable. Parliament - in order to prevent the burden of compensation having to be met by the taxpayer - passed the The War Damages Act Another example of an expressely retrospective modern legislation is the War Crimes Act 1991 which allows the Attorney General to authorise criminal proceedings for homicide committed in Germany or German occupied territory. ref: English Legal System (2004) by Gary Slapper and David Kelly
Re: [Goanet] WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS - WORLD GOA DAY 2009
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS - WORLD GOA DAY 2009 o Goemkars ! It is with great pride and pleasure that I share a few more names of Goan Associations who will be participating in this year's WORLD GOA DAY celebrations. These Goan Associations - are all members of our World Alliance of Goan Associations , they join Goans world wide in expressing their Solidarity by celebrating their Goan Cultural Heritage on WORLD GOA DAY. If you are a Goan and Proud to be , you too can join us in our celebrations if you so wish. Just write to us and tell us how you propose to celebrate this day! Details of events : WORLD GOA DAY : http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/ WORLD GOA DAY - 2009 EUROPE === Goans in Germany = - Original Message Hallo René, This year we have planned to celebrate the World Goa Day and our Executive committee election some where between August and September Best regards Vito Oliveira, President , Goan Association Germany ASIA ===Goans in Delhi == Shri Rene Berreto, As in the past, this year as well we are celebrating world Goa Day on 23rd August 2009. The Tiatre Ek Dhago Sukacho - by Shri Anil Pednekar is scheduled to be held on 23rd August 2009 - Sunday at Fr. Agnel's School Auditorium where all Goans in Delhi and around the state as well Konkani loving people are expected to attend and participate to celebrate on Goan Cultural Heritage. Regards, Suman Kurade, President, goenkarancho ekvot - Delhi , India = AFRICA ===Goans in Nairobi -KENYA === Dear Rene, Goa Day will be celebrated in Nairobi under the umbrella of the Goan Welfare Society on the 23rd of August 2009 - more details about venue and times will be sent to you. Should you have any queries please feel free to contact me. We look forward to seeing you at Goa Day! Thank you, Lily-Anne FOR AND ON BEHALF OF GOAN WELFARE SOCIETY , Nairobi, Kenya 00 Don't Listen to what they say , Watch what they do ! rene barreto == WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 A day set aside to CELEBRATE our Goan Cultural Heritage, a day to promise to help the less fortunate in our Goan community:
[Goanet] Goa news for July 30, 2009
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Waste Dump in Old Goa: Would Heritage Tag at Stake - Daijiworld.com isted from UNESCO's world heritage site, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=63326n_tit=Waste+Dump+in+Old+Goa%3A+Would+Heritage+Tag+at+Stakeusg=AFQjCNFO9fIAVcGyTCRgYgpah8Ta7ATT-g *** Goa to shut offshore casinos - Economic Times onomic TimesMUMBAI: Five of the six offshore casinos in Goa, that are operating without proper permits will soon find their vessels sealed by the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ET-Cetera/Goa-to-shut-offshore-casinos/articleshow/4827798.cmsusg=AFQjCNEw1valhdP_91nQi2DrT8BDQyANKA *** Sesa Goa Q1 net profit at Rs 422 cr - Business Standard tocks/Sesa-Goa-Profits-dip-despite-record-iron-ore-sales-2009-07-29-20014-3-1.htmlusg=AFQjCNGWgDuyfMU--pCossc5EZZQIbqqcASesa Goa: Profits dip despite record iron ore sales http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/sesa-goa-q1-net-profit-at-rs-422-cr/69331/onusg=AFQjCNFDDxWiz4uQsnFRpf9Hm35JHSrCOQ *** Britons top list of foreigners visiting Goa on business visa - Times of India mes of IndiaBritish nationals top the list of foreigners with businesses in Goa, while Germans come second, says a report. The status report tabled on the floor of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Goa/Britons-top-list-of-foreigners-visiting-Goa-on-business-visa/articleshow/4831873.cmsusg=AFQjCNEh7NRLqLFV-ESmDxk1BBvd79LKkA *** Mining in Western Ghats will be stopped, says Goa chief minister - Sify re+Traders+usg=AFQjCNH5cO1-B1XCjmPhWoEfesX2712-CQPanaji: Govt to Plug Revenue Leakage from Iron-ore Traders http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jh2w4sfgbfgtitle=Mining_in_Western_Ghats_will_be_stopped,_says_Goa_chief_ministerusg=AFQjCNHmzrQAVJh9WbvlYnpBIUf_RK8XIw *** Migrant influx changes Goa\'s demographics - Herald Publications igration even as the median age of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=25176cid=2usg=AFQjCNHyV2wvvlLYhQ2DX-YNLz7JePWJzw *** Goa\'s sports policy to be passed next month - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Jul 29 (PTI) Goa's sports policy, a long due for the state, will be passed in the state cabinet next month, the State Sports Minister said today. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/202200_Goa-s-sports-policy-to-be-passed-next-monthusg=AFQjCNGih3ZIHZ1wVjJTtCp0WJJXoVqtPQ *** Sesa Goa 1Q Consolidated Net Profit INR4.22 Billion Vs INR6.33 Billion - EasyBourse.com Dow Jones)- Indian miner Sesa Goa Ltd. (500295.BY) Wednesday reported a lower-than-expected 33% drop in its fiscal first-quarter consolidated net ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.easybourse.com/bourse-actualite/marches/sesa-goa-1q-consolidated-net-profit-inr422-billion-vs-709916usg=AFQjCNGWCHGlLeXkAKJR93hNbH0Qk43oag *** Goa will soon stop drawing Reliance power - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa will soon effect a saving on its power purchase bill after it stops drawing 16 mega watts of power generated by Reliance Salgaocar Private ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Goa/Goa-will-soon-stop-drawing-Reliance-power/articleshow/4836040.cmsusg=AFQjCNGupZ2FyI0MGdBAsvy1SBm6y7lEOQ *** Over 100 miners have chikungunya: Goa minister - Sify fyMore than 100 mine workers in the South Goa district have been infected with chikungunya, Health Minister Vishawajeet Rane said in the state assembly ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jh3oOnchiabtitle=Over_100_miners_have_chikungunya_Goa_ministerusg=AFQjCNFcC6SH_-pP7wiwlyGxXck92FfJRw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Does your doctor judge you based on your color? - CNN.com
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Ruby Goes, WOMAN OF COLOR, writes from color-blind Australia:-)) Goanetters, Here's food for thought. www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/23/doctors.attitude.race.weight/index.html Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:19:44 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com and we are continually being told that the USA has moved forward; does that mean that a Goan living in the rust belt would be treated differently from one say residing in San Diego or New York? In turn would they be treated better than a Black person and would a White person be treated better than them? Many of our Doctors and Nurses in the U.K. are non white, in fact the leading heart specialist is non white. Mario responds: Gabe is absolutely correct. British health care, for those who can survive the rationing, is the envy of the world because many of their docs and nurses are non-white, including the leading heart specialist. This article explains why this system is so great: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692973435303415.html In the meantime, life in the US is terrible and racist. Millions are not covered by health insurance. Millions are dying in the streets writhing in pain while others pass them by without compassion. The life expectancy is plummeting. Its like a Mad Max movie:-)) The situation is so bad that millions of brown skinned people continue to pour into the country longing to be ill treated and dicriminated against, just so they can die in America due to racist doctors who want to perform surgery just so they can make more money. Unfortunately for Goans and Indians there are so many of our own Goans and Indians who are doctors in the US, whether in the mythical rust belt which I'm still looking for, but also the heavens on earth like San Diego and New York, that all our lives are at risk as the following article describes, and we all need to return to India as quickly as possible if we want to live. http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
[Goanet] AIR: Santan Saibinn (Tradition, litany, hynms, video etc)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Santan Saibinn http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756935097/ St. Ana is a patron Saint of many large or Potuguese households in Goa. I remember, St. Ana (mother of Mary) household devotion was strong until mid 1980s? We used to visit large houses (particularly of Landlords) to sing litany or Ladainha or simply say ‘ladin’. We (a team of 3-5) used to travel far away on foot (we were in great demand) sometimes up to 3 ladin per night. The litany was strictly for the house hold members (no next door neighbours invited). Often, they 5 and we 5 makes 10 or less. At Velsao, I very well remember, a large house. Behind it there were railway tracks (we could here passing of the train with loud whistle) and there was a main road in front, Again, there was a ‘gironn’ or rice, flour mill. I saw a refrigerator in this house for the first time. It did not work on electricity (there was no electricity around that time) but works on kerosene. As we often go there year after year, I think I even remember the household name. We said ‘Masma-ger ladin’. But I can't really trace the house now. Besides, Masma, there was another of our regulars at Cuelim around ‘Kapddi Posro’ Or near ‘goondda or dada or movali Onorad’ who once stopped us. Now a days we have no such ‘giraik’. No one invites us to sing ladin in the big houses. Perhaps, it’s like saying ‘te poder mele ani te undde kobar zale’ ? St. Ana Ladin goes like this.. Santana Orapro Nobis Santana Ave Christi Santana Mater Maria Virginis Santana Sponsa Jokim Santana sokrus Josef And so on There were so many hymns or Orasao de St. Ana both in Portugues/Latin and Konkani. I don’t really remember now, we never learnt it by heart. St. Ana Ladin is seasonal or just once a year happenings. Meaning, we sang not more than 7 Santana Ladin a year. Some of the Konkani Hymn are.. -Santan tujem Sufollo Jinem - Santan amchi Mai -Santan amchi mai sodanch templant magnim kortali, aplim dukam golloitali.. -Santan amchi mai, Duve Natu soit zai Here are some of the hymns captured LIVE from Santana Feast at Talaulim and Olaulim One can sing along by following the onscreen texts. From Santana de Talaulim hymn (New clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWRvXUJPZ9Y from St. An de Olaulim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskxjOpYbeM In Christian households, there are many names or combination of Santana. e.g. Santan (male female) e.g. Santan timaim. Santan Mauxi, Santan titiv or maxen etc Santana Maria Santan D’Costa/Fernandes etc (both male and female) (often referred as ‘marsantan’ or ‘marisantan’) Bostiao Santan Dumingo Santan (DumSantan) Pedro Santan (PedSantan) Besides, St. Ana, we were also invited to sing “ladin de Curasao Jesus’ Which goes like this.. Cor Jesus, Fili Patris eterni etc … Misere Nobis AIR = As I Remember joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT FEEDS VICTORIA A PIECE OF CAKE
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html A recent photograph showing Chief Minister Digambar Kamat feeding Mrs. Victoria Fernandes a sweet piece of cake on her 75th birthday was not very tasteful. Not because the Santa Cruz MLA is a diabetic but a better birthday gesture by way of a cabinet berth for Victoria would have been befitting. In recent years even after going on a hunger strike luck seems not to have favoured Mrs. Victoria Fernandes in her pursuit for a cabinet post. Maybe being in and out of the Congress party has worked to her detriment. Last time around the crumbs of Deputy Speaker and Chairmanship of Goa Handicrafts Corporation were craftily handed over to her and she willingly fell for the bait. Digambar Kamat can visit all the shrines and deities but may never be forgiven for not having given a cabinet berth to the lone lady MLA in spite of professing the ideals of women empowerment. In 2007 he gave Victoria Fernandes cabinet status by way of a parliamentary secretary post only to revoke it in a few months. That cabinet status would have been washed away by the High Court order anyway. With her term as MLA coming to an end in less then three years and she having made it public at the last election that it would be her last, Victoria Fernandes should now focus on trying to find a young, educated and dynamic development oriented successor to carry the Santa Cruz constituency forward. It is hoped that she will look beyond her family to find the right person to rescue the constituency out of its dumps as it continues to be one of Goa’s most neglected. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
Re: [Goanet] Sex determination (Was: Church vs State)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Cajetan Alvares cajul...@googlemail.com wrote: Reply: In that case I have to agree with Fr Ivo and the Catholic Church that Homosexuality and Transgenderism is an 'Activity'. Thanks. This is not a rational statement. It does not logically follow from the fact that the SRY gene on the Y chromosome determines the male gender in humans. Homosexuality is a normal variation of sexual orientation, not of the primary or secondary anatomical characteristics of gender. Sexual orientation is a scientific term that refers to the state of sexual and emotional affinity towards members of the opposite sex, same sex or both sexes, and the persistent sense of identity that a person develops as a result of this affinity. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (30Jul09)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html *** Ex Casino Addict...Now St. Mickky Pacheco takes a 'U' Turn *** I shall seal ALL Offshore Casinos To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] To US sponsor a Goa priest.
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Eric Pinto wrote: A long tradition, Goa priests spent eight weeks in US parishes, filling in for natives on vaction. Short term visas were easily arranged. That situation has changed on account of falling revenues, and parishes now cope without the extra help. Mario responds: Not in the midwest. In the Detroit area there are four Parish Priests who are Indian, and there are several who are associate pastors all over the midwest. All the ones I know are on multi-year visas and were sponsored by local dioceses. Eric Pinto wrote: A priest in Goa asked me for a letter of guarantee, and that should have raised a yellow signal: It turns out he did not have a job offer, and prospects of landing one are dim. He now informs me that a full subsidy of his travel costs and visa fees would greatly extend an old friendship. Buyer beware, I suppose.??? Mario responds: I think he was just looking for a bakra:-))
[Goanet] Book Launch: Civil Law Studies - An Indian Perspective
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html CIVIL LAW STUDIES - AN INDIAN PERSPECTIVE This is the title of a collection of essays that has just been published by the prestigious Cambridge Scholars Publishing House (Great Britain). The book, edited by two Goans Anthony D'Souza and Carmo D'Souza, has a foreword by Prof. Neelakanta Ramakrishna Madhava Menon and contains essays by renowned personalities in the field of legal studies from Portugal and India. Fundação Oriente has contributed towards the publication of the book and will host a public presentation of its contents on Saturday, August 8, at 5.30 pm. Ismilda Researchers Ms. Asha Sashikumar ( LL.B. Hons.), Ms. Shruti Mahambrey (LL.B. Hons.) and Vaidehi Desai ( LL.B. Hons.) will present the book. After the presentation there will be an interactive QA session on the book. Fundação Oriente Delegation in India 175 Filipe Neri Xavier Road Behind People's High School Fontainhas, Panjim Tel : 2230728 / 2436108 Goanet Calendar http://tinyurl.com/Goanet-Calendar www.goanet.org Where Goans Connect
Re: [Goanet] Homosexuality, Celibacy, Marriage
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com It is very disturbing to note the lack of understanding below of what constitutes a crime under secular law, and the utter cluelessness about the difficult ethical questions surrounding the health of women. Fortunately, there is not a single civilized secular nation today which considers homosexuality a crime and the life of a mother expendable for the parochial religious and ideological reasons of a few people with a medieval mindset. Let us hope that this atavistic mindset is never able to gain a foothold anywhere other than the outer perimeter of the fringe where it resides. ***It is even more disturbing to read what Dr.Santosh is writing regarding abortion, though he claims to be a physician and a neuroscientist, agnostic and secular, professing Hyppocratic oath What I am writing is not only held by the Catholic Church, but by physicians themselves. I am abhorring abortion not only as a Catholic priest and religious, with atavistic mindset, but as a human being, a secular modern citizen. But Dr.Santosh is glad to dump my postings as garbage, as he is happy to throw innocent scrambled bodies into dustbins of hospitals and nursing homes in the name of Science and secularism. Are There Rare Cases When an Abortion Is Justified? Official position statement of the Association of Pro-Life Physicians What about in cases of... Rape and incest? Severe fetal deformity? The health of the mother? The life of the mother? One can rarely engage in a discussion over abortion without one of the rare cases being brought up to justify abortion: What if the woman is raped? What if a thirteen-year old conceives through incest? What if the fetus is deformed and unlikely to survive anyway? What if the mother's health is at risk? What if the mother's life is threatened by her pregnancy? We would be remiss to deny the emotional sway of these rare scenarios that would pull at the heart-strings of any compassionate physician. We grieve with our patients who endure such tragedies in life, and want to provide the best healthcare possible to them. But do these dire circumstances justify an abortion? It is easy to prove that these objections to the pro-life ethic are insincere. What if someone brought up these arguments to justify the killing of an infant: The baby was conceived through rape - The infant is deformed and mentally handicapped - The mother's health is suffering as a result of her baby. Would anyone who endorses abortion in the womb openly justify the killing of an infant using these excuses? No, they would not. This proves that these objections are insincere and that the heart of the matter is whether the fetus is a living human. If it could be proven that the human fetus is just as alive and just as human as the infant, then these objections would not justify aborting a fetus any more than an infant. (For a thorough scientific argument proving that life begins at conception, please see the article on our website or the APP tract When Does Human Life Begin?) We must respond to all tragic circumstances of pregnancy from the unshakeable foundation of two indisputable premises: human life begins at conception, and it is always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human being. The unborn child's right to life and liberty is given by his or her Creator, not by his or her parents or by the state. The right to life is inalienable: that is, not to be trespassed upon by another. In tragic circumstances such as rape or incest, we want to care for both the mother and her unborn baby. We want to relieve the suffering of the mother and her unborn baby. It is never right to intentionally kill an innocent person, even if it does relieve another's emotional or physical suffering. It's not up to a vote, and our obligation to submit unto divine judgments does not sway with our circumstances. We should not kill an unborn baby to alleviate the suffering of the mother any more than we should kill her infant to alleviate her suffering. Neither should we commit an abortion of a malformed fetus in order to prevent his or her suffering later in life. Being handicapped is not a capital crime. The intentional destruction of health is not compassionate and it is not healthcare,
Re: [Goanet] Does your doctor judge you based on your color? -CNN.com
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:32 PM To: goa...@goanet.org http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649 RESPONSE: In June 2009 Mario passed off a few links bashing Canadian Healthcare. At the time it was demonstrated [1] Mario was pushing right-wing think-tanks who purported to write the 'gospel' on the state of Canadian Healthcare. Today he forwards a link from NCPA that details how Americans are living in the Garden of Eden. Once again Mario has forwarded links from a right-wing, conservative think-tank that seeks to promote private alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial private sector [2]. In order words, those Americans who cannot afford to pay for healthcare should be denied healthcare. The rest of Mario's gratuituous comments are ignored as he disgorges them here on a daily basis. - B References: [1] http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178627.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Policy_Analysis
[Goanet] God and You
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Albert writes:- Lets recollect two things from the Bible .The first one is about The death and resurection of Lazarus and the second one is the resurection of Jesus. Lazarus was sick. Jesus knew about it being God yet he did not visit them. God wanted the world to know that God could do lots of wonders through Jesus. That he had power not only to heal someone but raise some from the dead. Jesus wanted us to know that he was God himself. The two sisters of Lazarus were mourning for the dead brother. God made a revealation through Mary when she spoke about the resurection on the last day. How did Mary know this ? She could say this because the Holy Spirit revealed it to her. Jesus also made a revelation when he said I am the resurection and the life who ever believes in me will be saved. Here Jesus is trying to give us his hand to hold. In the resurection of Jesus Mary Magdalen and some of the disciples went to the tomb and found it empty. Our lives too are empty without Jes us. They found everything except Jesus. They found the cloth (wealth) which was used to wrap Jesus. They found other things used to bury Jesus but did not find Jesus. Why do you search me among the dead ? Do you believe that Jesus has resurected and living with us ? if yes be born again with Christ. If you are waiting for Jesus to come from Heaven then you have to work very hard lest you may be like the foolish queens who went to get oil when the bridgroom enters. Live with Jesus. Foolish are the people who try to critise those who are with Christ. Foolish are those who throw stones at those who come nearer to you with the word of God. The bible tells us who is God and what is His position .Read Isaisah and you will know that we can totally depend on God .He says that even if your earthly father deserts you I will not. Yet we bow before lifeless idols and pour out our woes, The idol cannot talk and answer our prayers and help us and this is leading us to despair. We run he ar and there. We have God living in our hearts but are we aware that God dwells in us ? we like to believe those who do not know where God dwells and are asking God, where do you live and God says come and see it yourself. _ MSN Quiz The clash is on to find the best brains. Test your skills with avid quizzers on MSN quiz. http://specials.msn.co.in/WLSocialNetworkConnector/Chrome.aspx
[Goanet] Talkn' Matka
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Talk about legalization of matka in the Goa legislature yesterday will continue to be, in my view, talk. With so much money to be gained by the politicians and police all over Goa, this form of illegal gambling which has roots deeper than the coconut tree all over Goa is unlikely to come to an end. But, then, again I could be wrong. With a lot of activists advocating a lot of causes in Goa today it remains to be seen if the politicians will have reached a point of no return and indeed vote for the legalization of matka rather than take on the mighty force of Goan public opinion. They can always look for greener and virgin pastures elsewhere.
[Goanet] OPINION: Wedding Tourism and More
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Wedding Tourism and More ERVELL E MENEZES deplores how the government has allowed Goa to become dependent on tourism, to the detriment of locals Mapusa MLA Francis 'Babush' D'Souza was in the news recently with his suggestion to the Ad Hoc committee on Law to do away with the one-month residential qualification before getting married in Goa. You can't decide where you are born or where you die, but you can decide when you wed, so why fuss about it? is what he told a weekly magazine. D'Souza wants to make Goa the wedding capital of India, if not the world. Anyway, he has a good line on births, deaths and weddings though it is not necessarily accurate. Like old elephants, Goans come to Goa to die, but until now D'Souza was known as 'the frog' - for his capacity to jump from one political party to another. He, along with wedding planner Lester Melo of Weddings Dreams, is pressing for a change in the law to facilitate weddings in Goa. The residential clause came to light when Bollywood actor Sanjay Dutt's marriage to Mayanta came under a cloud because the documents were fake. Former State Registrar Prabhakar Sardessai says the situation now is to the advantage of touts and middlemen who arrange doctored documents. But isn't that so in any field of administration in this paradise state of ours? There have been cases of property being sold to a third party by a bogus landlord because of absentee landlordism. Bogus documents have become a way of life, and are often to be found when there are multiple owners. Why can't this practice be probed and stopped first? Then, almost sanctimoniously, D'Souza added, Goa's image should be of a family destination rather than a drug or gambling hub. But what has D'Souza done to stop gambling? Ministers are known to be regulars at the casinos and Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco even has a police case against him, but ministers seem to have special immunity. What about drugs? When his own party, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), was in power, it did precious little to curb this menace. In fact Chief Ministers in the past have vowed to come down heavily on the drugs lobby but to no avail. They seem to be all too powerful and well entrenched on the beach belt. But aren't there more urgent legal issues to tackle in Goa - for instance, the snail's pace at which justice is dispensed in Goa. There are instances of cases running into years, even decades. That would be more in the realm of the Ad Hoc Committee on Law set up by the State Assembly rather than being obsessed with tourism. The grapevines has it that the Mapusa lawyers have a caucus whose raison d'etre is to prolong cases and postponements. Or is that too close for comfort, Mr D'Souza? Making Goa a convenient destination is more because of the Mumbai underworld extortionists demanding money from the newlyweds than for the idyllic setting of a quaint land of sand, swaying palms and old churches. The latter is just hype by the press. And now it is not difficult for the marriage partners to get into a civil marriage in Karwar or Hubli and then proceed to Goa for the celebrations. Wedding celebrations will continue to thrive in Goa, and Goan resorts will continue to gets 25 per cent or even more of their clientele from weddings. D'Souza also mentions that the Portuguese law which entitles both partners to equal rights is a good one and people feel this law is to their benefit. Hence he wants one part of the law to stay and the other to change. Isn't this selective justice? The trouble with Goa is that it has become too dependent on tourism, which cannot and must not be the only industry. Times out of number I've said that tourism is a double-edged sword which benefits a few but affects even more, and the last two decades have proved this. The prices of essential commodities have soared. Fish, a Goan's staple food, has become a luxury. Paddy fields are left uncultivated or converted for building. It is not only a trial-and-error policy but one of error-and-more-error that is being adopted by the government and the Goa Tourism Development Corporation (GTDC), which should be taken to task for some of its shady its deals. I know entrepreneurs who have establishments on the beach belt, and they say that
