[Goanet] Daily Grook #616
DAILY GROOK #616 BREATHE SEED by Francis Rodrigues if underwater sex satisfies a need, lack of air makes it hard to breed! *GREAT NEW YEAR GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com === sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 === http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 _ Introducing Windows® phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708122
[Goanet] New Australians | Australia Day | citizenship ceremony (RACISM IN AUSTRALIA AND ATTACKS ON INDIAN STUDENTS)
http://www.smh.com.au/national/new-citizens-join-the-fun-in-citys-biggest-ba ckyard-20100126-mweo.html Goanetters, I wish the Indian media and politicians would stop embarrassing themselves. It makes me cringe. Jai Hind! rubygoes
[Goanet] Mining traffic during school hours banned at Usgao
Comments: Well done!. Now what about the overspeeding and overloading trucks. will the authorities keep a check on thisand why do the trucks have to be lined up on the highway cant they stop these trucks from the mining site as well? Edward Verdes Mining traffic during school hours banned at Usgao http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Mining-traffic-during-school-hours-banned-at-Usgao/33078.html HERALD CORRESPONDENT Public agitations by residents of Usgao have yielded the desired results, with traffic authorities implementing the North Goa collector’s order to stop mining traffic during school hours. “As per directives, we have now begun to stop trucks carrying ore during schools hours from 7 am to 8 am and from 1 pm to 2 pm at two points, the Usgao Bridge and near the sugarcane factory at Dharbandora,” informed Ponda Traffic PI Salim Shaik. The decision follows from the agitation led by Usgao Parish Priest Fr Felix Lobo, who along with villagers, recently blocked the Usgao Bridge to demand the implementation of the north Goa collector’s order. “I am very happy that authorities have decided to implement the North Goa Collector’s order. Now, the transport authorities should be firm in enforcing the order”, said Fr Felix Lobo. ”I have been demanding action against over-speeding and overloaded trucks since the last seven years. On numerous occasions, we were forced to agitate to highlight our demands,” he added. “I am not against truck operators nor have I any personal interest in the issue. I am doing this for the society and will continue my work”, Fr Lobo added. The Ponda Traffic police has admitted that it would be a tough task to implement the North Goa Collector’s order, as it would lead to a traffic jam in the area. “The NH 4A will witness a serpentine queue of trucks from from 7 am to 8 am and from 1 to 2 pm at the two points. Since the road is narrow, only one lane will be free as trucks will be lined along the other lane of the road. The NH 4A from Pansule junction will also witness the same situation,” said PI Shaik.
Re: [Goanet] Marathi and Kokani typing workshop
Hi Tony, First of all, thanks for your response. True on all counts. One wants one way, but not helping towards creating infrastructure--the "Official Language Department of the Government of Goa is not promoting the use of Devanagari software." Deva kitem NA? Hi dada-GIRI nhu. bhogos atan hanv hya fudden mhunpacho assa tem: This is another time when one says "the perpetrators of such fiascoes are DICKS. Period. Essentially traitors considering all the vertigo of patriotism that has been skrink-wrapped around the Goan faces. What happened to Patria in their PATRIOTISMS, what happened to Pitar or Pater for that matter (considering that if not the sons then their fathers studied Latin, and certainly Sanskrit). Sogle vater (Gr. father) zale, umtya kouxear uddik. Pun to vel ghelo. Amorich amori. Motin, nhoim monnant hencam moriyent gheun kappdam dutat toxim boddounc zai--duvunk zai. I am aware of the transliteration programs and 'halant" etc., but thanks for this link (I will look at it) but people have to make an effort to relate to precise sounds say in Marathi and our Konkani inflection(s). Also all this is hard, even for their (Marathi speaking too) younger generation. Typing conjunct consonants is a whole other ball game, but very few care. Saree was not pronounced as it is now, not for that matter curry (The Hindus do a better job of pronouncing such words, at least the older generation). Do we loose something in the shaving off of those lovely sounds. I personally feel we do -- and believe it is a sort of ancestral resonance lost. venantius j pinto Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:25:40 +0530 > From: Tony de Sa > To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Marathi and Kokani typing workshop > > Hi Venantius, > It is rather astounding that the Official Language Department of the > Government of Goa is not promoting the use of Devnagri software for writing > Konkani in the officially accepted script Devnagri.The business of Devnagri > software has been interesting me for long because in school, my teachers > used to hand write the stencils for the examination paper. There were > concerns of legibility, waste of stationery etc. So I purchased Devnagri > software for my school. I am happy to say that with this, the question > papers were more clear and there was a minimum waste of stationery and > fewer > requests from students for help in reading the question papers. The side > effect was that the language teachers (Hindi, Marathi and Konkani) all > learnt to computer type their papers. This induced others to learn to use > the computer and that in turn led to them using the computer for generating > mark sheets, attendance sheets and all kinds of work finally culminating in > Power Point presentations. > > Though it sounds impressive to be able to type Devnagri, most of the > software packages available have an Anglicized keyboard. One merely types > phonetically. For instance, with the 'Hindi Pad' software, (available for > around Rs. 355/- couriered home to you) to type 'BHARAT' in Devnagri, one > has only to type b, h, a, a, r, a, a, t, a. The extra a in each case is > because the letters appear as half letters - this is a peculiarity of this > particular software. after a while one gets used to it. There is also other > software available. I suggested this particular one because it is > inexpensive. Linux has in built language support as also Microsoft Windows. > There are also many websites which give you online Devnagri transliteration > online. You can type in English much as I have shown you and you can cut > and > paste the result in a word processor page provided you have that particular > font. Here is a website: http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic > -- > \\\ > = \\-00 Tony de Sa > C u tonyd...@gmail.com > \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 > --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 > = / | > ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v >
Re: [Goanet] Easy way to test this peer-review thingy
--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Samir Kelekar wrote: > > Yes, in the long run, this will even out, as the wrong > papers will no more be referenced. > But, the damage has been done already, and to me this > system sucks. > If in the long run wrong papers are ignored then no damage is done to science in the long run. The only damage that is done is to the reputation of the scientist who was stupid, careless or crooked enough to publish the wrong result in the first place. I would say that the system is just. In the end truth prevails. Justice is done. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Goa in Huffington post
Mario is probably right. The difference is, however, that the average RG doesn't believe he's an expert in everything, and doesn't let out gas in cyberspace at the slightest excuse! He isn't in blame-mode, blaming everyoneone in sight in a random manner because in his perception the problem has suddenly gotten worse. Also, I know many here who are attempting, in some way, to build a solution. The attitude isn't one of thank-god-that-I-got-away-and-I-need-to-convince-myself-it's-a-sinking-ship, as we often encounter in cyberspace. FN On 3 February 2010 15:25, Mario Goveia wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:59:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Carvalho > Although I don't agree with?some of what Tony, Frederick and > Samir wrote, I certainly agree with them that most NRGs > simply don't have a clue about Goa. > Mario responds: > Neither do many RG, which is probably why Goa is in such a > mess to begin with. -- Frederick Noronha Columnist :: journalism :: editing :: alt.publishing :: photography :: blogging
[Goanet] from Dan Driscoll. . . . .for Fredrick Noronha,
Trying to get you on your gmail address, but not working. Hope you might rc'v this: That was a fine Book Launch Event at Clube V de G last week. I went especially on lookout for Peter Nazareth's book, and found it. In it there is the Violet Dias Lannoy *Story Roses on the Grass*, which I am now reading out to wife Germana. Violet was first Cousin to Germana, and to Bemvinda (Dias) Da Cruz. We are stunned by the brilliance of the African story---how she could so subtly portray that African scenario. I think I have you to thank for the fact that I was able to click up biographical pieces about Violet (by Bemvinda; Lannoy, and Peter Nazareth). As you may recall, I did a couple of public readings over past months---from Lambert's book, and Margaret Atwoods 'Scrooge' at XCHR. I have no talent for writing, but read rather well having taught Eng. Lit. in Canada for a decade or so. I'm thinking of doing this Violet story at Black Box, sometime within the next couple of months. If you have any suggestons about it, let me know. I'd get Bomfilio Da Cruz to say a few words, but if you could be around I'd have you say something about your own work. My only small anxiety about you these days is that you could be working too hard. Take care of yourself.
[Goanet] Indian Magazine Reports On Australian 'Hate' (RACISM IN INDIA AND ATTACKS ON INDIANS)
http://www.theage.com.au/national/indian-journal-focuses-on-hate-20100131-n6 ju.html Goanetters, I can't take a step without seeing droves of Indians out and about. The ones I've talk to are trying to get permanent visas. Not sure how it goes; something about getting a job once they finish their studies at the 'college'. (Never a University.) Invariably 'studying' cooking, graphic arts and IT with very poor English speaking skills and invariably from the Punjab. If they live/work in outlying suburbs without transport they are at risk of being attacked by crack heads/meth-users/juvenile delinquents/criminals. No? Jai Hind! rubygoes
[Goanet] Marathi and Kokani typing workshop
Thank you Tony for providing very useful information. I have also used few Devnagari softwares. Real problem with all the software are 1. They come with executable files and a program to be run to install them 2. They use more key's 3. They don't run on all computers. The GANGAL1.ttf file is to saved in windows/font directory It runs on all computer Its given free by creator...'Shodh Marathi' alias Shubhanan Gangal It uses 47 keys (plus shift) + 47 = 94 keys This font is in UNICODE. Infact we (Shodh Marathi) feel that 1. There are few characters which complicates understanding devnagari should be deleted from script. 2. Marathi and Kokani are independent languages and Sanskrit grammar or characters which hampers progress of these languages should be kept away.(Major element Raswa and Dirgha) For these very reason we call it as Marathi/Kokani font and not Devnagari font. There are Many advantages most important is INDEXING. Its not only font but also pronunciation which we know. But there is somethink more which only Shubhanan Gangal explains better. Using these characteristics of gangal1 font... We want to take computer to 'JANIV-JANAK' level. Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:25:40 +0530 From: Tony de Sa To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Marathi and Kokani typing workshop Message-ID: <5dd184c61002030755r66d1fa79ge99049a85790c...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Venantius, It is rather astounding that the Official Language Department of the Government of Goa is not promoting the use of Devnagri software for writing Konkani in the officially accepted script Devnagri.The business of Devnagri software has been interesting me for long because in school, my teachers used to hand write the stencils for the examination paper. There were concerns of legibility, waste of stationery etc. So I purchased Devnagri software for my school. I am happy to say that with this, the question papers were more clear and there was a minimum waste of stationery and fewer requests from students for help in reading the question papers. The side effect was that the language teachers (Hindi, Marathi and Konkani) all learnt to computer type their papers. This induced others to learn to use the computer and that in turn led to them using the computer for generating mark sheets, attendance sheets and all kinds of work finally culminating in Power Point presentations. Though it sounds impressive to be able to type Devnagri, most of the software packages available have an Anglicized keyboard. One merely types phonetically. For instance, with the 'Hindi Pad' software, (available for around Rs. 355/- couriered home to you) to type 'BHARAT' in Devnagri, one has only to type b, h, a, a, r, a, a, t, a. The extra a in each case is because the letters appear as half letters - this is a peculiarity of this particular software. after a while one gets used to it. There is also other software available. I suggested this particular one because it is inexpensive. Linux has in built language support as also Microsoft Windows. There are also many websites which give you online Devnagri transliteration online. You can type in English much as I have shown you and you can cut and paste the result in a word processor page provided you have that particular font. Here is a website: http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Shrikant Vinayak Barve The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Goan Abroad! #2
GOAN ABROAD! weekly humor [If you came in late - Langoti "Long" John Silva is a globe-trotting Goencar, always accompanied by his foul-mouthed parrot Cocky] EPISODE 2: "The Agony of Flushing" The parrot flushed in agony, as the front-door letterbox clanged. My Mexican maid opened the muddy envelope, and grimaced. "Your Goanese hermanos call por you, otra vez, Senhor Silva!" "Wht?" I gagged, "Oh no, not their bloody AGM again!" Goans worldwide have a tradition of internecine warfare, and invariably every country has two or three local Goan Associations battling to death. The "Associacao Goencars Of New York" or A.G.O.N.Y. is NY's premier Goan snakepit, headquartered in Flushing, carrying on a vicious war with neighbouring "Goan Association New Jersey Area" or G.A.N.J.A. One April Sunday, I bussed from Astoria to the HH Expressway in Fresh Meadows, for AGONY's AGM at the Gujarati Community Center, Flushing. "Arrre, no pets allowed!" yelled Mr. Juan Souza, at the gate, to Cocky. "Baizuan!" screeched Cocky, but when he looked up she had flown. The mahajanwadi hall was jampacked with faux goencars bursting out of polka pushers and khaki camisoles, each yearning to be more Yank! On the high-table, joining Souza and his cronies were Lui Lobo Prabhu, AGONY founder, and the ladies-wing chair, 'Lijjat' Sardinha, a conniving hussy, apparently nicknamed for being as flat as the proverbial pappad. Mo' Gouveia, a crusty crow from upstate NY, called the meeting to order. "Mogall bhaoo..oo...oo, ani...ani...bhoin...aan..aan..oo..oo!" he stammered. "Boo-hoo, heheh, boo-hoo!" came a Cocky shriek, high in the rafters. "Fust item, I ree..ding minnits of last AGM, em...em...he stuttered again, before the assembly started shouting him down, "Elections, elections!" "We promisshed to do something to sshave our Goa, last year!" cried Mo. Saving Goa is an eternal hot-air chant of external Goans, worldwide. "Yeah, you shaved and laundered BaBush's rupees into dollars!" yelled Rolly Frank, the boiling mob's leader, as they rushed the dais en masse. "Not BhayyaBush, shady, it was Dubyya Bush!" screamed the parrot. Mo wailed, "As a Goencar I only tried to 'do', I mean 'kor' my best." "Do...kor, dukor, dukor!" roared Cocky, the mob joining in "Du...kor!!!" If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times - The popat always knows! "Where's the poishe, show us the money, we want accounts!" came a high- pitched squeal, and I reeled in shock. In the center of the rabble, in fake tweed and derby, screaming for moola, was con chappieMauvin Bobo! The supreme irony was, Mauvin was elected AGONY's treasurer before, but like most Goencar Society cashiers, had a field day looting every last cent. Mo wept, "It went for the annual Mass, the picnic, the pao, the choris" "Choris?? Chor...is??" shrieked Cocky, "Chor...isyou!" "We are going to pass the accounts as read!" screamed the flaky Lijjat. "Yeah, we'll make you pass something red!" burst Cocky, the mob baying. The committee stood up grimly, held hands, and the bearded Lui sneered. "We will fight! We're here to pass our agenda not just tolose motions!" Instantly, from high above, they were all splattered with a lurid stream of bird poop! Mo tripped over the mike, Lui skidded over the stage's edge into the crowd, and Lijjat exploded into the sound-system as it short-circuited. The meeting dissolved into pandemonium as the Gujjus called 911. Due to the NY water-rationing, the taps had run dry, so the committee had to clean up using the WCs - you could actually hear their agony of flushing! Cocky swooped down to my shoulder and we fled, making a clean getaway. "You murderous bird!" I admonished, "Why did you poop-bomb them??" "Hell!!" she yelled, "Didn't the committee mentionloose motions??" "Cocky," I said softly, "it's not our culturethis poop.this guano!" "On the contrary!" she roared, "Spelling mistake! It's actuallyGoan-o!" The popat always knows. == The above column appeared in the 3 February, 2010 edition of The Herald Daily, Goa. == http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ _
[Goanet] Republic Day Go Goa Children's Cultural festival - Prizes distributed
Photograph of Prize Winners at: http://tinyurl.com/gogoaprizes To commemorate the Republic Day and the International year of Youth, JCI St. Inez organized a Children’s Cultural Festival in the Children’s Park at Campal Panaji. Several Events were organized on the theme of Environment with an Art Competition organized in association with JCI Panjim. The Event was co-sponsored by Future Generali and Advertising Associates. Editor of Herald Mr. Ashwin Tombat was the Chief Guest and distributed the prizes along with Guest of Honours Kedar Dhume of Advertising Associates and Sameer Kapadi of Future Generali, JCI St. Inez President Rupesh Golatkar, Secretary Jailaxmi Mahale, Events coordinator Sandeep Heble, Past President JCI Panjim Manoj Patil and others. An Entertainment programme by ‘Taraana Entertainment’ was also held. Following is the list of Prize Winners: Child Art Pre-Primary 1st- Nihal Bhobhe, 2nd- Sumukh Kamat, 3rd- Tanishka Jaggi. Consolation - Tvisha Nachinolkar, Tejaswi Bhandare, Ved Sardesai, Daksha Sakhardande, Raashi Shetty, Anand Tathod, Mohit Shetye, Kiran Pandit, Adishree Shirodkar, Acastus Costa and Viraj Chari Primary 1st- Shrinjan Ghosh and Astang Sakhardande, 2nd- Devraj Chatribin and Siya Redkar, 3rd- Vaibhav Mayenkar. Consolation - Arya Juwarkar, Alyssa Gomes, Tanusha Paraz, Sanjana Gajinkar, Ashish Rath and Kamryn Menezes Middle School 1st- Aishwarya Rath, 2nd- Akanksha Jaggi, 3rd- Shikha Desai. Consolation - Deepali Nagarshekar, Alicia Fernandes, Rachana Charate, Aline Nazareth, Savio Colaco and Asavari Gurav Secondary 1st- Haribhushan Manjrekar, 2nd- Gaurav Chatribin, 3rd- Anish Sakhardande. Consolation - Balrudin Makandar, Aviraj Sawant, Maulali Sheikh, Sindhar Kunchi, Royston Braganza and Siddharth Sharma Poster Competition 1st - Rachana Charate, 2nd - Devashri Kamat, 3rd - Pranav Khadpe. Consolation - Gaurav Chatribin, Aishwarya Rath, Devraj Chatribin and Wedyn Noronha Quiz 1st - Omkar Gurav and Akshay Rege, 2nd- Saheel Wagh and Satyesh Shetye, 3rd - Supriya Kamat and Namrata Pai, 4th- Samyak and Atharv Joshi Banner Competition - Wedyn Noronha Essay 1st- Siddhi Amonkar, 2nd- Harshada Borkar, 3rd- Gayatri Borkar, Consolation- Rohan Saxena, Devashri Kamat, Sonia Patil, Supriya Shanbag, Aneesh Ramani and Omkar Gurav
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
Val, As we are at it, you could add one more Att-modo Bosteao & Boroupi Alfi Whereas Att-modo Bosteao was after he was in a road accident where one of his injured hand had to be amputated from the elbow. But he lived a full life, even mastering the left hand for writing. As for Boroupi Alfi, he never had time for anyone as he was always writing something. He was even the sarpanch of the village at one time. Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Valmiki Faleiro" To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames Why me, Chacha Alfred, when you yourself are seemingly reluctant to identify even the village, much less the family name, of that rear-oriented household? I have, of course, a hilarious repertoire that reflects the old Goan musicality, wit and wisdom in nicknaming individuals and households -- more than 100 actually, and still adding! -- from my home-village, Margao. I will reserve that list for its original purpose, a book on Margao, and then face the music if any from ruffled feathers in law courts! But for any interested Goanetter, will copy what I wrote on the subject in my now defunct Sunday Herald(Goa) column on Jan 18, 2008 ... BELOW your mail that follows (it also featured on Goanet then.) Regards, v
[Goanet] TAME MARGAO MANDO FESTIVAL 2010
TAME Tourism Airline Management Education in association with Department of Art and Culture are presenting the annual CLASH OF THE TITANS - ALL GOA MANDO FESTIVAL to be held at Air-conditioned hall Ravindra Bhavan Margao on Friday 5th February 2010 at 3.11 pm. Mando lovers can collect Free complimentary passes in advance and to avoid last minute disappointment and audience is requested to please be occupy their seats before time. The festival will be of groups participating both in the Original and Traditional category. The following troupes have to compulsory participate in both Original and Traditional category and agree to be on time for performance due to time restrictions. Total of 18 troupes have confirmed their participation 9 in Traditonal and 9 in Original. The Troupes are Manddea Mogi Porvorim led by Lawrence Fernandes ; Goenchim Kirnam – Pernem led by Cosme Fernandes ; Merces Firgojecho Sadd Merces led by Joaquim Rodrigues, Fatordichem Fullam led by Peter Azavedo ; Sallkam Curtorechim led by Joel Fernandes ; Curtorechim Sallkam led by Victor da Costa, Vellechim Sallkam led by Viola Correia ; Swadik Nad Majorda led by Michael Gracias and Goenchim Noketrem led by Jina Mascarenhas Dias. First Prize in both Original and Traditional Category will be Rs. 11000/- First Prize in one category and Second Prize in other category will be Rs. 10,000/- Second Prize in both the Category Rs.9,000/- First Prize only in Category (Original and Traditional) will be Rs. 8,000/- Second Prize only in Category (Original and Traditional) will be Rs. 7,000/- Participating Group in both Original and Traditional Rs. 5,000/- (No Group can claim combination of two of the above prizes). Mando lovers are requested to be on time Regarding the function We shall have the lighting of the traditional lamp and the releasing of the souvenir then followed up by each troupe We shall be having two category traditional and original Each troupe will make entry only once sing traditional and then original then the curtain will be pulled down and you can go before the curtain and speak At the end of all this we shall have the prize distribution ceremony The show is non ticketed. There will be 3 judges to judge each group
[Goanet] PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATIONS
The concept of Public Interest Litigations (PILs) has over the last two decades, grown and expanded to cover all types of litigation involving the interests of the general public. The Supreme Court has recently directed each High Court to frame its own rules on Public Interest Litigations. Would it not have been better for the Supreme Court itself to formulate the rules so that the same could be uniformly enforced by every High Court across the country? This would ensure some consistency in the manner in which our judges address PILs. It would be nice to see our courts being more proactive and taking suo motu cognizance of public views. This would, in a way, help to ensure a PIL does not end up as a Private Interest Litigation, Political Interest Litigation, Publicity Interest Litigation or worse still, a Paisa Interest Litigation. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
Re: [Goanet] Cultural history of Ragi
Dr.Nandkumar Kamat wrote: > I welcome the very useful and enlightening discussion on Goanet on > Ragi/nachni and its’ products. Such protein and vitamin rich millets have > nursed generations of humans esp. in paleotropics. My son now four years, > was administered plentiful of ragi porridge-Nachnyache satva for more than a > year. We also make sweet ragi puddings at home. > Some more information on Ragi This is easily the most informative post I have read on Goanet this year. Thanks Mervyn1107Lobo __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [Goanet] Damning admission by Indian climate change scientist
The myths surrounding the apparent lack of correlation between C02 levels and global temperatures have been debunked in this Newscientist article: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11639-climate-myths-the-cooling-after-1940-shows-co2-does-not-cause-warming.html The various false political claims about the hacked East Anglia emails have been refuted in this Pew Center document: http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/east-anglia-cru-hacked-emails-12-09-09.pdf As regards how the peer review process and repeated independent replication of results keeps science, as a whole, an honest enterprise in the long run, please see my post in a parallel thread. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Mario Goveia wrote: > > Once again, these charts show the breaks in the correlation > between the growth in CO2 and global temperatures over long > periods of time. > > Regarding conspiracy theories, the emails disclosed by the > whistleblower at East Anglia College showed that there was > scientific bias and an active ongoing consipracy of like > minded scientists going on by the extreme environmental > lobby, with peer reviews conducted by like minded colleagues > and obstacles placed in front of dissenters. > > There are several good reasons to question the motives of > the climate change scientists who seem to have been co-opted > by politicians and one-world-order types who believe in the > redistribution of wealth and the quest for grant money based > on creating an alarm. > > This group of scientists have not acted in an open minded > fashion towards those who disagree with them, like other > scientists are known to do. > > I doubt Santosh would ever dismiss or deliberately seek to > bury scientific opinions that differ from his own from > publication, as we saw going on at East Anglia College. > > Here are some facts in no particular order: > > 1. The summary reports issued by the IPCC are written by > political appointees not the thoussands of scientists as > claimed by the environmental ideologues who work on bits and > pieces of the project as a whole.. > > 2. Rajendra Pachauri falsely poses as a climate scientist > for media purposes. The man is a railway > engineer. He deliberately delayed correcting the > report on Himalayan glaciers and we have no idea if he would > have done so unless exposed by others. > > 3. When "An Inconvenient Truth" was garnering accolades > around the world and earning a Nobel Peace Prize not a > single climate scientist, stepped forward to expose the nine > deliberate errors that were included by Al Gore. > > With all due respect, Santosh, I don't remember hearing a > word from you exposing the falsehoods during that farce > presented as scientific fact. > > Your spirited advocacy has been largely one sided. > > 4. If the climate scientists truly believed their own > theory about CO2 being the cause of global warming, I submit > that they should not have they excluded India, China and all > the less developed countries from the provisions of the > Kyoto Treaty while pretending that it would have an effect > on greenhouse gases. > > 5. Blaming 0.039% of the earth's atmosphere for the entire > atmosphere acting as a greenhouse makes no intuitive sense, > especially in the context of the global warming taking place > on Pluto and Mars. > > None of the extreme environmentalists mention Pluto or > Mars. > > 6. Pretending that total CO2 will be seriously reduced by > the economic contractions being proposed and made mandatory > only on the western economies, when man-made CO2 is only > 0.013%, is like a sick joke, if the extreme > environmentalists were not so influential. > > 7. The climate change models simply failed over the last > decade. Yet we are being asked to believe them in the > future and turn the economies of the world upside down based > on these speculative models. >
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
On 2 February 2010 18:14, Alfred de Tavares wrote: > My all time best in this genre is.BONKABOTATAGUER... Despite its crude-sounding connotations, I believed the Konkani word 'Bonkanbot' simply referred to a very stingy person. Please correct me if wrong. To my surprise, people are using this term (sometimes to identify themselves) on Twitter and Facebook: http://www.google.com/search?q=bonkanbott&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t FN
[Goanet] Churchill Brothers - Al Wahda Footbal Game
Those that would like to go for the Churchill Brothers - Al Wahda football game in Abu Dhabi, there will be free transport available to and from Abu Dhabi, leaving from Al Nasr Leisureland Dubai on Saturday 6 February at 4pm Sharp. Please report early to avoid disappointment. For further details contact Gulf International Promotions Dubai on tel 04 3355330 -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of armstrong augusto vaz Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:36 PM To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Churchill Brothers to Face UAE Al Wahda in Abu Dhabi New Delhi, February 03 (QNA) - Churchill Brothers will not be waging a lone battle in Abu Dhabi when they play off with UAE giants Al Wahda on Saturday for a coveted berth in the AFC Champions League. With Abu Dhabi home to a very large Indian, at that Goan community, it will be home away from home for Indian champions Churchill. And also at hand to watch the match will be the entire Indian national team, who will be training in Dubai from February 4-16. "For our team it will be like playing home away from home," Churchill Brothers Club President Joaquim Alemao said Alemao, who is also the President of Goa Football Association and Goa's Minister for Urban Development, will be joined by his brother and club patron Churchill Alemao in Abu Dhabi. "About 40-50 supporters from Goa will go to Abu Dhabi to cheer our team. A lot of Indians, especially Goans, in the UAE are also making plans to watch this match," he said. Indian sports persons are a huge draw in the Emirates and stadiums have been routinely sold out, particularly for tennis tournaments, as the sizeable Indian expat population turns up in large numbers to cheer their favourites. The UAE-based Raul Fernandes, whose passion is to bring the Goan community together for such events, has already taken permission from Indian coach Bob Houghton to take the Indian players for the match. "I know the Churchill team very well and have already started publicity for the match among the Indian community." Recalling an Indian national team friendly with Al Nasr club two years back, Fernandes said: "Over 3,000 Indians turned up for that match in Dubai. I am optimistic that Churchill will have great support in their bid to qualify for the AFC Champions League.
[Goanet] Goa news for February 4, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa to raise special tourist security force - Hindustan Times o-raise-force-to-guard-tourists&catid=34:top-story&Itemid=59&usg=AFQjCNGvdYm0VSXFaJBiYzxKaXMnC0ucPQ">Goa to raise force to guard tourists http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Goa-to-raise-special-tourist-security-force/H1-Article1-504388.aspx&usg=AFQjCNHCoCWGVAEN0SuPBXUvZiRCcUmLCg *** India holds two over Goa 'assault on Russian child' - BBC News loXaS7a8SR0IvR49MHEIQfUQ">Girl, 9, raped in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8488817.stm&usg=AFQjCNE4qO3f_8V44KHzUwFYKLXCRXh6NQ *** Three-day music festival in Goa under police scanner - Times of India ay non-stop music festival beginning on Feb 5 in a ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Three-day-music-festival-in-Goa-under-police-scanner/articleshow/5531280.cms&usg=AFQjCNFVNHLb7TjlVzwFXaacy6YbWghd_w *** RSS chief visits Goa, pays tribute to freedom fighters - Press Trust of India taying-illegally-in-india-should-be-sent-back-mohan-bhagwat_1343012&usg=AFQjCNEPL2wiBdLziWvC_9h2ol94A6glfg">Bangladeshis staying illegally in India should be sent back: Mohan Bhagwat http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ptinews.com/news/498111_RSS-chief-visits-Goa--pays-tribute-to-freedom-fighters&usg=AFQjCNEF09dEzeL2a4-8Ga0StJ-SNCV0Fg *** East Bengal beat Sporting Clube de Goa - Times of India eague match at the Nehru ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/top-stories/East-Bengal-beat-Sporting-Clube-de-Goa/articleshow/5532326.cms&usg=AFQjCNE1xTqSj92d4jXFtgPwvo_Vf2Zmyg *** Goa Tourism Chief Links Sexual Assaults To Bikinis - Huffington Post (blog) rofile sexual assaults on tourists culminated ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/02/goa-tourism-chief-links-r_n_445799.html&usg=AFQjCNEt26O7gtthoVyH50faWwPByREIbQ *** Vasco Goa beat BEML 5-2 in GV Raja football - Daily News & Analysis in a Group B quarterfinal league encounter in the eighth GV Raja all-India football ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_vasco-goa-beat-beml-5-2-in-g-v-raja-football_1342963&usg=AFQjCNHf1SzJZwFwjUpfybNmh0H0gNadBw *** Goa: A paradise lost? - Asian Age ian AgeTo some extent the way certain cases have been handled by some dubious police officers has resulted in Goa's image taking a beating. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.asianage.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1032:goa-a-paradise-lost&catid=42:op-ed&Itemid=67&usg=AFQjCNGwZNeh7gPN-g_iSjKHXJzhlndVlQ *** Thamizh Padam overshadows Goa - Oneindia WgJW7M">and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/2010/thamizh-padam-overshadows-goa-030210.html&usg=AFQjCNFaYDFnpoxjAb-LTra4BmnQtfeq-Q *** CII to map Goa's industrial growth - The Hindu e HinduThe Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) and the Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry (GCCI) have agreed to map industrial growth and corresponding skill ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://beta.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article100377.ece&usg=AFQjCNFZuaczEl9L6e2vL6-JJdtPo43XWA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] tourism lessons for goa from ---one man has transformed a ghost town in the western Algarve into a thriving eco-tourism destination
NOTE: Photograph(s) linked to this article may be made available to clients through a separate negotiation. Clients are invited to contact the picture syndication manager at the Observer News Service, Mary Andrews (mary.andr...@guardian.co.uk), to inquire about availability. The crusty, chewy pao caseiro loaf that I find hanging in an embroidered bag from the shuttered doorway of our village house in Pedralva every morning reminds me that this is no ordinary Algarve holiday. As I open the door onto the small courtyard, the cool September air is fragrant with eucalyptus and forest flowers. A cockerel crows, the owner's Newfoundland puppy, Urso, sets off in hot pursuit of a cat, and two silver-haired villagers, with lines etched deep into their faces, sit chatting on the doorstep, barely acknowledging my presence. I balance on tiptoe to open the blue wooden shutters. Bright sunlight streams in from the picture-postcard narrow street of quaint whitewashed stone houses, their shiny wooden doors painted the colour of traffic lights - reds, greens and yellows - though there is no traffic or rush hour here. Cutting the thick crust of the pao caseiro for breakfast requires patience and the biceps of Popeye but the taste is worth it. I pop to the grocery next door to buy deliciously fragrant home-grown tomatoes and sweet juicy melons to accompany the ham, cheese and eggs left in our refrigerator earlier. Today we are off for a yoga session on Praia do Amado beach, where thunderous foam-curled waves will greet our "omms" and calming tree balances. Tomorrow we are going bird-watching in the stunning Ria Formosa nature park and on Friday I will be testing my nerve with a surfing lesson, another of the many activities on offer here. Two years ago, the village of Pedralva, near Vila do Bispo on the Algarve's west coast, lay in ruins. Now thanks to one man's creative vision, it has been brought back to life. Adman Antonio Ferreira visited Pedralva to buy a holiday home and ended up buying almost the entire village. At 42, he had been at the top of his career for 16 years but had grown tired of working day and night on campaigns and decided to take early retirement. All but seven houses in the once-thriving agricultural community of Pedralva, in the Costa Vicentina parque natural, had been abandoned, long forgotten by their owners. Just nine residents remained. "This village used to be full of life, but when I arrived it was sad," said Antonio, sitting in the village square with wife Filipa. "I tried to imagine what it would look like if it was rebuilt, and realised it could be a tourism project for me." He initially bought two small houses, then 12 more, and now owns a total of 31. Four advertising colleagues were persuaded to join the EUR4m venture, and the council agreed to invest EUR1m in roads and lighting. It took Antonio nearly two years to find the owners of the properties: some families had forgotten they even owned a house. One owner was traced via a sister he had not spoken to for 12 years. Another sale involved 28 owners, who took it in turns to cram into the attorney's tiny office. "Everyone thought I was crazy," said Antonio. "They thought I had been drinking medronho [the local fire-water]. They said no one went to Pedralva. It was a challenge for me." Antonio and Filipa sold everything they owned in Estoril, on the Algarve's busier south coast - house, Billabong surf shop and car - and moved to Pedralva. With them came their two children, Manuel and Maria, aged 10 and seven, and Urso, who bounds around the village with as much energy as his energetic owners. Four years later, the dreams of creating a tourism village where holidaymakers are in touch with nature, have come to fruition. The 31 abandoned houses have been restored to their rustic glory, each named after one of the area's many glorious beaches. Ours is Ingrina, a beautifully designed two-bathroom, two-bedroom stone house with quaint shuttered windows, sky-blue round wooden beams and a terracotta roof with a typical finely carved chimney. The furniture and decor are rustic chic, the showers made of local stone. The house is cleaned daily, bed linen is crisp, fluffy towels are changed if required and the kitchen has all mod cons, including a Tassimo coffee machine. Each house was individually furbished by a designer friend of Antonio. Some have bamboo-covered patios, others a gallery bedroom and another a kids' hideaway in the eaves. The only new building is the reception and restaurant, and the popular Pizza Pazza, which buzzes with surfers and locals. Technophiles and children will love the Apple computer training centre in the old school house, which offers courses in creating animated videos and podcasts. A vegetable garden sells fresh produce direct to the holidaymakers and supplies the village shop. It's a far cry from the 1950s and 60s, when 200 villagers worked in the wheat fields, there was no electricity, and donkeys were the main mode
[Goanet] rave party
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Three-day-music-festival-in-Goa-under-police-scanner/articleshow/5531280.cms
[Goanet] Tracing the shattered dreams of many Dubai Indians
Tracing the shattered dreams of many Dubai Indians By Kul Bhushan New Delhi, Feb 3 (IANS) It's a novel that looks at the hard lives of poor Indian migrants in search of their pot of gold in Dubai - a work that gains significance in the backdrop of the current credit crunch. "Dubai Dreams: The Rough Road to Riches", released at the New Delhi World Book Fair, explores how the current situation in Dubai affects Indian immigrants. "Dubai is very much in the news now and 'Dubai Dreams' is a timely reminder of the tough lives and shattered dreams of Indians who are paying a heavy price in the current credit crunch that has also touched this Middle Eastern emirate," said Shamlal Puri, the NRI author and veteran journalist who has come from London for the release of his novel. The book has been jointly published by Har Anand Publications of New Delhi and Crownbird Publishers of London. "There was a time when all the flights used to lead to Dubai from India as Indians paid any airfare to chase their dreams in Dubai. Today, ironically, they are heading back home, leaving their shattered dreams behind." "This is a dramatic reminder of the travails of about three million Indians who have gone to work in the Gulf," he said. "Now many of them are facing a bleak future after their toil amid very harsh conditions in these states," said Puri. There around 1.5 million Indians in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) alone. "I finished the book only a few weeks ago when the Dubai crisis had hit the global headlines. So it is very topical now and has value as a historical record as well." The living and working conditions of unskilled and semi-skilled Indian workers in the Gulf leave much to be desired. A majority of these NRIs are young, mostly unmarried males. More than half their numbers have invariably gone from Kerala, while the remaining persons have mostly been from Andhra Pradesh, Goa, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. Over 60 percent of them have had little formal education. On arrival in their country of destination in the Gulf, they are usually fed and housed in barrack-like tenements and engaged as labour on construction projects. Now thousands have been laid off and have returned home to a bleak future. Puri stayed in Dubai for three years and observed Indian workers and their struggles and challenges. The story revolves around the lives of Indian taxi drivers and how they cope with their tough working conditions and the tensions of their families back home in India. Part of the story also happens in Mumbai. Exploited at every turn, the author's low-key style highlights their plight and shows how easy it is for simple, honest men to turn to crime in desperation. It captures the humour and pathos of the sweltering classes in thankless, low-paid jobs. Here is a sympathetic insight into the lives of taxi drivers who keep the transport system of Dubai well oiled. As the traffic rolls on, the drivers go nowhere in their lives with their shattered dreams.
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
Three myths about scientific peer review http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/three-myths-about-scientific-peer-review/ The purpose of peer review http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2009/01/09/the-purpose-of-peer-review/ FN -- Frederick Noronha Columnist :: journalism :: editing :: alt.publishing :: photography :: blogging
[Goanet] Easy way to test this peer-review thingy
In the world of academic research, it matters who you are, not what you write --- is my thesis. It is very easy to test this. If someone is good at getting papers published, he can write a paper and send it in his own name. On the other hand, he can write the same paper and send it in a non-entity's name. And see which paper gets accepted and which not. One can do this for say 10 times. i can bet that 9 out of 10 times, the newbie's papers will get rejected, while the known person's papers will get accepted even if there are errors in it. Everyone in the research world knows this well. Yes, in the long run, this will even out, as the wrong papers will no more be referenced. But, the damage has been done already, and to me this system sucks. In the field I am in, Computer science, the latest trend is not to publish. File a patent, market your product; the market will decide if what you are talking is worthwhile or not. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
Gabriel, You are stating the obvious when you say that fraud can happen in peer reviewed publications. The peer review system is not bullet proof - it is meant to be a first line of defense against fraud. Yes, it is possible to publish fraudulent data in a peer reviewed publication, but if the work is significant, others will try and replicate it. If it cannot be easily replicated, it will be retracted. Again, the bottom line is that, the scientific process does not rely on a publishers "sincerity" or solely on the peer review process, but rather, on the independent replication of the results by competitor groups. With regards to Samir's comments regarding an academic mafia that exists in the peer review system, I would say that the benefit of doubt is usually given to a well established researcher with a proven track record as opposed to a new entrant. In some rare cases a person with a sterling past record, can go rogue and start falsifying data (for example the Korean gene researcher) and thus get past the peer review system. However here too, the researcher had his work retracted when other groups were unable to replicate his work. In this particular case, his career in science was not only effectively destroyed - he also had to face imprisonment. Lying/falsification of data to get funding is a criminal offense. Marlon - Original Message From: Gabriel de Figueiredo I wish I could agree with you, Santosh and Marlon wrt sincerity of research and peer reviews. A google on "peer review fraud" reveals that there is much to be desired in these matters in the scientific world. I am not an authority on these matters and indeed I may be proved wrong in my personal conclusions, but as the saying goes, "there's no smoke without a fire". Regards, Gabriel. - Original Message > From: "J. Colaco < jc>" > > Some years ago a Goan doctor - whose questionable study on > alcoholism made infamous headlines in the Times of India - wrote to me > indicating that most research in India is fudged. > > I am not sure that this Goan was or is an authority on "research in > India". I personally know many ethical research scientists who would > never to anything as unethical as fudge for the sake of funding. > > I have read the posts of Santosh and Marlon on this matter - and I > agree with the points made therein.
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
I wonder if Gabriel actually reads what he finds by Google searches, and makes an effort to verify its authenticity. It is clear that he has not understood what Marlon and I have said at all. In science the subjective opinions or biases of individual scientists do not matter in the least. No scientist can fool the rest of the scientific community long enough. Indeed, with regard to publicly supported academic research, anybody can independently try to replicate each and every scientific result because all methods and data are freely available to the public, as in the case of climate research. As Marlon pointed out, no important result remains unchallenged by others. In fact, there is a veritable rat race to find fault with the latest finding. Being a competitor and peer reviewer myself, I know how rigorous and adversarial the entire process is. Moreover, no fraudulent result can ever lead to a technology that works. If Wright brothers had fabricated their results, planes would never have flown. So no matter how many Google searches Gabriel does, the very fact that Google searches work in the first place is a testament to the unassailable truth and significance of the scientific findings that have gone through the wringer of peer review and replication by competitors. To me the rants of Gabriel and others are like those of the swami who rails against science and technology on his TV show while displaying his iphone number at the bottom of the screen. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: > > I wish I could agree with you, > Santosh and Marlon wrt sincerity of research and peer > reviews. > > A google on "peer review fraud" reveals that there is much > to be desired in these matters in the scientific world. I am > not an authority on these matters and indeed I may be proved > wrong in my personal conclusions, but as the saying goes, > "there's no smoke without a fire". > > Regards, > > Gabriel.
[Goanet] 'Not wearing lungi in Tamil Nadu can cost you election'
'Not wearing lungi in Tamil Nadu can cost you election' Panaji, Feb 2 (IANS) Stressing the political importance of preserving and promoting ethnic identity, Congress Rajya Sabha member from Goa Shantaram Naik Tuesday said no one can win an election in Tamil Nadu if he does not wear a 'lungi'. He cited union Home Minister P.Chidambaram's sartorial preference to buttress his argument. "In Tamil Nadu, unless a politician wears a 'lungi' (a wrap-around), he does not get votes. If he (politician) wears a shirt and pants there...he loses," Naik said, adding that even Chidambaram wears a white 'mundu' (wrap-around) regularly, barring some exceptions. Naik, who is also the outgoing president of the All India Konkani Parishad (AIKP), a literary institution established in 1939, said that striking an ethnic cord with the electorate was a key to electoral politics, be it through ethnic attire like the 'lungi' in Tamil Nadu or an ethnic language like Konkani in Goa. "Today politicians in Goa feel that if you do not speak in Konkani, no one will vote for you. That is the general feeling amongst politicians here," Naik said, during the press conference called to announce the 2010 edition of the AIKP, which will feature more than 2,000 litterateurs from the Konkani speaking regions of Goa, Karnataka, Kerala and Maharashtra. Konkani, an ethnic language of Goa, is also the official language of the state.
[Goanet] Goa chief minister orders enquiry into music festival Text
Goa chief minister orders enquiry into music festival Text Panaji, Feb 3 (IANS) Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat Wednesday ordered an enquiry into the legalities of holding a three-day music festival at the ecologically sensitive forest area near Agonda beach here. Speaking to reporters in Panaji Wednesday, Kamat said the district magistrate would be asked to visit the party site, 80 km from here, near a biodiversity hotspot, which is home to exotic butterflies. "I have ordered the district magistrate to probe the matter. Who has given them the permission? If required, I will ask the DM to go to the spot and verify the situation first hand," Kamat said. Earlier in the day, Deputy Inspector General (DIG) of Police Ravindra Singh Yadav told reporters that the police will keep a close watch on the 'Chakra view festival', which begins at 6 a.m. Friday (Feb 5) and winds up at 12 midnight Sunday (Feb 7) near the secluded butterfly beach. "I have asked them (subordinates) to check whether there are any illegalities. If we find any illegality, we will stop the party," Yadav told reporters at the police headquarters in Panaji. Yadav also said that the anti-narcotics cell and the district police have been instructed to keep a sharp eye for drugs or psychotropic substances sold near the festival venue. Sale of drugs at such mega music parties in Goa came to the fore with the death of Bangalore girl Meha Bharadwaj. Meha died due to suspected drug overdose at the Sunburn music festival in December. Speaking to IANS, Canacona legislator Vijay Pai Khot said he was not aware of such a music festival in his constituency. "I do not know about it. Festivals like this should not be allowed here," the legislator said. The organisers of the event could not be contacted on the phone numbers listed on the event's website.
[Goanet] Swiss Air for Goa.
PANAJI: February 7 is being ticked as a landmark day when Swiss International Airlines (SIA) will soft launch its first weekly flight arrival from Zurich to Goa, making the vision of a 365-days flight schedules on Dabolim Airport a near reality. This will be the 7th international airline operating to Goa, after Condor, Transaero, Srilankan Airlines, Air Arabia and Qatar Airways. Full read @ http://www.navhindtimes.in/business-news/8126-swiss-airline-links-goa-with-zurich Comment: Sri Lankan does not fly to Goa any more; I saw a flight arriving from Yerevan ( Armenia) to Goa - can any one illuminate, if this is a trourist flight or is there two way biz traffice between Armenia and Goa! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Inquiry indicts K'taka govt for church attacks
Excerpts: In a major embarrassment to the BJP government in Karnataka, the Justice BK Somashekar Commission, in its report on the church attacks, has squarely put the blame on the Bajrang Dal, VHP and Sree Ram Sena in the state. The commission was constituted by Karnataka’s BJP government to look into the series of church attacks which rocked Karnataka in September 2008 damaging the social fabric of the state. The report also clearly indicts senior police officers and the district administrations in colluding with these outfits directly and indirectly during the attacks. It also says that the government did not act sympathetically or with compassion to the victims in the attack. The commission has recommended the ban of all communal organisations indulging in attacking other religions. It has also said that the district administration at all levels should be held responsible for the attacks. http://www.timesnow.tv/Inquiry-indicts-Ktaka-govt-for-church-attacks/articleshow/4337606.cms
[Goanet] Dr.Bikram Dasgupta Memorial Public lecture in Panjim
Nature Environment Society and Transformations (NEST) will organize public lecture titled "Spaces, Places, and Histories: A Political Ecological Perspective" by Prof. Alberto Gomes from Department of Anthropology and Sociology, La Trobe University, Melbourne, Australia. The lecture will be held at Marathi Sahitya Seva Mandal Hall, near Central Library, Panaji at 4 pm on February 05, 2010. Prof Gomes is a La Trobe University anthropologist involved in developing and teaching a unit for a major initiative by UNESCO to promote peace and sustainability. The four-week intensive on sustainable development and the environment focus on human conditions – poverty, inequality and how they relate to environmental problems. It is a unique approach developed by Dr Alberto Gomes that challenges the dominance of free market economics in the world eye. He is also involved defense of indigenous people in Malaysia. This is a first of Dr. Bikram Dasgupta memorial Public Lecture series organized by NEST. Sebastian RodriguesMember _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] Marathi and Kokani typing workshop
Hi Venantius, It is rather astounding that the Official Language Department of the Government of Goa is not promoting the use of Devnagri software for writing Konkani in the officially accepted script Devnagri.The business of Devnagri software has been interesting me for long because in school, my teachers used to hand write the stencils for the examination paper. There were concerns of legibility, waste of stationery etc. So I purchased Devnagri software for my school. I am happy to say that with this, the question papers were more clear and there was a minimum waste of stationery and fewer requests from students for help in reading the question papers. The side effect was that the language teachers (Hindi, Marathi and Konkani) all learnt to computer type their papers. This induced others to learn to use the computer and that in turn led to them using the computer for generating mark sheets, attendance sheets and all kinds of work finally culminating in Power Point presentations. Though it sounds impressive to be able to type Devnagri, most of the software packages available have an Anglicized keyboard. One merely types phonetically. For instance, with the 'Hindi Pad' software, (available for around Rs. 355/- couriered home to you) to type 'BHARAT' in Devnagri, one has only to type b, h, a, a, r, a, a, t, a. The extra a in each case is because the letters appear as half letters - this is a peculiarity of this particular software. after a while one gets used to it. There is also other software available. I suggested this particular one because it is inexpensive. Linux has in built language support as also Microsoft Windows. There are also many websites which give you online Devnagri transliteration online. You can type in English much as I have shown you and you can cut and paste the result in a word processor page provided you have that particular font. Here is a website: http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels
Heh, heh, heh what confrontation? Just free advice from someone who has no or minimal contribution to Goa and which is not wanted! Why is Goveia using Arwin, Rajan, Carmen, etc for a crutch? Note the reference to others who were spending their time and money. Looks like scrooge doesn't want to spend any of it and is only dropping names to try and score points. Besides the man sounds like he's squealing while being gang raped by the notorious Tony and Samir. Free advice: If you have to be raped, you might as well sit back and enjoy it. And as I said earlier and and am saying again at the risk of repeating my self, Mario is at work again trying to tell his of repeated lies. The bottom line is "Tuen tor Goenche passot xent bhor kitem kellam zalear ulloi na zalear mar piluk" = Mario> Anyone who has followed this unnecessary firefight, where I confronted a furious personal assault on all "foren" NRGs by Tony and Samir, especially those who were actually spending their own time and money to address the problems in Goa, should be able to tell that this poster has either not understood a word of the discussion, and is the kind of "foren" NRG who has nothing constructive to add. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Sent from India
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
Why me, Chacha Alfred, when you yourself are seemingly reluctant to identify even the village, much less the family name, of that rear-oriented household? I have, of course, a hilarious repertoire that reflects the old Goan musicality, wit and wisdom in nicknaming individuals and households -- more than 100 actually, and still adding! -- from my home-village, Margao. I will reserve that list for its original purpose, a book on Margao, and then face the music if any from ruffled feathers in law courts! But for any interested Goanetter, will copy what I wrote on the subject in my now defunct Sunday Herald(Goa) column on Jan 18, 2008 ... BELOW your mail that follows (it also featured on Goanet then.) Regards, v On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Alfred de Tavares wrote: > > My all time best in this genre is.BONKABOTATAGUER... > > The dinasty-founding "BONKABOTT B'KAR", allegedly had a penchant to > constantly penetrate the south hole...not neccessarily his own, hence > the honorific ad perpetuo... > > Shan't disclose the worthy inheritors of this noblèsse, yet...try your luck > with > dear Valmiki...he could, if but he would, unitch your, understandable, > curiosity; > but, pray, bear in mind, what it, lamentably, did to the impertinent cat. > > A tips: a b'hamon village in Shasti > > temptingly Yours, dear Cecil > The Chach... > a happy harmless collector of the curiosa...&, the curious...fatuous... > furious === GOAN NICKNAMES By Valmiki Faleiro Modern man loves brevity. Brevity in words, in dress, in names. Everyone’s in a hurry. No time to address Senhor *Santamisericordia Circumcicao Paixao da Boaventura … de Barros e Costa Fernandes* by his noble name (the middle of which, in the ellipsis, could run thro’ about a ninth of the All Saints Litany.) That could be reason why poor *Santamisericordia* earned a briefer nickname! Seriously, the most plausible cause of nicknames, other than derision, must have been name and surname commonalities. Which sprang from Indo-Aryan settlement patterns in Goa. Blood-related clans, often with common surname, formed a *Vangor* (group) of village settlers. Most Goan villages had less than a dozen Vangors, and so, about as many surnames. Big settlements had more, like Margao, with its 28 Vangors. This caused identity problems, which must have necessitated nicknames. Perhaps reason why bulk of Goan nicknames centre around households and not individuals, though personal aliases do exist. First names must have also been in short supply! Centuries later came Catholic missionaries, who gave their surname to the converts. Each priest might have converted an entire vaddo, if not the whole village. All converts in his domain bore identical surnames. Landlords added their own fair share, imparting their surnames to caretakers of their houses, crops and properties. Hence distinct nicknames, to ease the confounded confusion. Usually in the local idiom, reflecting native wit and wisdom. Let’s check out some from my hometown, Margao. First the birds and beasts: ‘Bebo Caitan’, ‘Bebqui’, ‘Combienfon’, ‘Gughum’, ‘Kolo’, ‘Pako’, ‘Undir’ (also Margao’s village nickname.) Households were named after trees: ‘Ambea ghor’, ‘Cazu ghor’, ‘Champean ghor’, ‘Chinche ghor’. Others were named after physical characteristics of the house itself: ‘Dovornea ghor’, ‘Madieh ghor’, ‘Modkian ghor’ and ‘Panch Bhuzan ghor’. One family was named after that great Portuguese literary figure, Bocaje, who like Camoens, spent time in Goa (the former at Panjim’s Corte de Oiteiro, the latter, for criticizing local compatriot officials, in the Margao jail.) Others were known by personal characteristics: ‘Nad’dh Khoddo’, ‘Ennd’dh Barbosa’, ‘Pixean Ghor’, ‘Lolo’, ‘Foncro’, ‘Dedd Bamon’, ‘Lord Burrash’ and my favourite, ‘Motte Roqui, Kalle Modki’. We have fruits, even personal voice volumes (in sizes!): ‘Dakli Popai’, ‘Vhoddli Popai’, ‘Dakli Tepdi’, ‘Vhoddli Tepdi’, and ‘Daklo Ulo’, ‘Vhoddlo Ulo’. As much as ‘Daklo Noveannoi’, ‘Vhoddlo Noveannoi’ and two candlemakers, ‘Mennkar’ – one in Tembim, the other in Borda. Like others known by profession: ‘Paunekar’, ‘Caitan Karter’. Margao’s Hindu Brahmins would’ve spent more time nicknaming Daivadnya Brahmins (goldsmiths) than one another. Goldsmiths were ripe with nicknames. ‘Bangdo Shet’ probably never bought anything other than mackerel in the fish market, as perhaps did ‘Korbot’ with a penchant for the cheapest portion of assorted tiny fish. ‘Choomboll’ possibly believed his teeth must glitter more than his gold. And if you think that ‘Ladu Shet’ is tough, try ‘Imitation Shet.’ There were the mischievous. ‘Antam Podo,’ ‘Bo*kambot,’ ‘Chec-chec,’ ‘Fuskean Pai,’ ‘Poskeam Filip,’ ‘Undea Oddh.’ Let’s turn to a few spicier. (Most colourful ones, alas, are clearly unprintable.) There was a Senhor ‘Joao Pico’ whose wife’s nickname rhymed: ‘Bo*kam Bico’ (the tail end of an enema apparatus plunged in its proper body or
[Goanet] SITEWATCH: http://www.oslandodesouza.com/
OSLANDO [De Souza]the doyen of Goan Folklorists who has.over several decades; released some of the best sellers of Goan folk-music albums such as: * POILO PAUSS [The First Rains] 1971 * SOUL OF GOA 1978 * GOA MEU AMOR 1982 * BOAS FESTAS [Happy Feast]1985 * NOSTALGIA1992 has now come out with his latest Best Seller, a BOOK [over 300 pages] entitled "THE CHRISTIAN GOAN KONKANI FOLK & ART SONGS"[cover 100 songs with music notations & chords] (A NEW PERSPECTIVE} By OSLANDO “The Christian Goan Konkani Folk & Art Songs” A New Perspective By OSLANDO The Book consists of Three Parts: * PART I (i) PREFACE: A Balanced View on Portuguese Colonialism in GOA (ii)An Essay on what the Christian Goan Folk Music is all about (For more particulars of the contents see pages 15 to 47) * PART II Music & Lyrics of the Most Popular Traditional Folk & Art Songs [Grouped under various “ready to sing” Choicest Selections] (For more particulars of the contents see pages 49 to 230) * PART III Music & Lyrics of Original Compositions of Goan Music By: Oslando (For more particulars of the contents see pages 231 to 325) To know more about the book. click on the book. http://www.oslandodesouza.com/ -- Frederick Noronha Columnist :: journalism :: editing :: alt.publishing :: photography :: blogging Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436 784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
[Goanet] Fw: St. Anthony Colva, Xeldem, Pujari 6 and Maina Six made it to the Semis of Fr.Avrilio memorial
--- On Tue, 2/2/10, JOAO FERNANDES wrote: From: JOAO FERNANDES Subject: St. Anthony Colva, Xeldem, Pujari 6 and Maina Six made it to the Semis of Fr.Avrilio memorial To: mel...@misquita.net, bur...@herald-goa.com Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:12 PM Quepem Correspondent St. Anthony Colva, Xeldem, Maina Six and Pujari Six Upasnagar made it to the semi-Final of 11th late Fr. Avrilio Pires memorial South Goa Floodlight Tournament organized by United boys of Ambaulim, Quepem at Ambaulim Volleyball ground. In the first two quarterfinal St Anthony Colva and Pujari Six Vasco easily won over their rivals. St. Anthony defeased Muna six Assolda by 21-16, 21-18 margin while Pujari six defeated cuncolim by 21-15 and 21-13 margin. In the other two exciting quarterfinal Maina Six defeated Jawahar Ponda by 21-12, 16-21 and 15-12 margin while Xeldem defeated Deao Boys by 21-17, 17-21 and 15-13 margin. Both the semifinal will be played on 4th February at 9.00 PM while the final will be played on Saturday 6th February. Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Churchill Brothers to Face UAE Al Wahda in Abu Dhabi
New Delhi, February 03 (QNA) - Churchill Brothers will not be waging a lone battle in Abu Dhabi when they play off with UAE giants Al Wahda on Saturday for a coveted berth in the AFC Champions League. With Abu Dhabi home to a very large Indian, at that Goan community, it will be home away from home for Indian champions Churchill. And also at hand to watch the match will be the entire Indian national team, who will be training in Dubai from February 4-16. "For our team it will be like playing home away from home," Churchill Brothers Club President Joaquim Alemao said Alemao, who is also the President of Goa Football Association and Goa’s Minister for Urban Development, will be joined by his brother and club patron Churchill Alemao in Abu Dhabi. "About 40-50 supporters from Goa will go to Abu Dhabi to cheer our team. A lot of Indians, especially Goans, in the UAE are also making plans to watch this match," he said. Indian sports persons are a huge draw in the Emirates and stadiums have been routinely sold out, particularly for tennis tournaments, as the sizeable Indian expat population turns up in large numbers to cheer their favourites. The UAE-based Raul Fernandes, whose passion is to bring the Goan community together for such events, has already taken permission from Indian coach Bob Houghton to take the Indian players for the match. "I know the Churchill team very well and have already started publicity for the match among the Indian community." Recalling an Indian national team friendly with Al Nasr club two years back, Fernandes said: "Over 3,000 Indians turned up for that match in Dubai. I am optimistic that Churchill will have great support in their bid to qualify for the AFC Champions League.
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
My all time best in this genre is.BONKABOTATAGUER... The dinasty-founding "BONKABOTT B'KAR", allegedly had a penchant to constantly penetrate the south hole...not neccessarily his own, hence the honorific ad perpetuo... Shan't disclose the worthy inheritors of this noblèsse, yet...try your luck with dear Valmiki...he could, if but he would, unitch your, understandable, curiosity; but, pray, bear in mind, what it, lamentably, did to the impertinent cat. A tips: a b'hamon village in Shasti temptingly Yours, dear Cecil The Chach... a happy harmless collector of the curiosa...&, the curious...fatuous... furious > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:11:03 + > From: xanno_moide...@yahoo.co.uk > To: goa...@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames > > The inevitability of inheriting a ubiquitous sobriquet is the reason I > believe, that has prompted Moidecars down the ages to take recourse to > alternative appellations. > > Can you blame us? Any one, so long as he is known to have the slightest > connection to that GOD’s own little acre, is automatically heir to the rather > insalubrious and even insulting insinuation: ‘Moidecho pisso’. > > Most of us have grown inured; however, there have always been vain attempts > at breaking free. Nouro Bostiao, Thonto Bostiao, Sonso Jose, Tambddo Anton, > Dhovo Anton….. music to my ears. There were all good man. The Anton’s are > still around. The others have gone to that enclosure reserved by our > heavenly FATHER for the extra special. > > A great big sign marks the spot, it reads simply: “Moideche”. Somebody has > rubbed out the following word. > > Only the P is barely discernible. > > Sincerely > > Xanno Moidecar > > > > > > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] Bigger than IT was Parrikar’s ego
An interesting article appeared in Goanews on the Goa IT scene back in time - “Bigger than IT was Parrikar’s ego” by Mr. Ramakant Khalap. Appended further is also the report in the Herald with a reader’s comment. Could someone shed light on what is the meaning of “meunno”? Mention is made of a certain Rajyadhyaksha of Gartner of America. Is he really the the “meunno”? Interestingly per the news report in Herald. Manohar Parrikar says that the incident goes back to 9 years ago in time and has no comments to offer. So much for transparency from this senior leader. Isn’t this a serious matter that would need one to respond to rather than claiming it goes back in time? So much for our Goan politicians and the deep-rooted corruption that we are faced with. Shame on our Goan politicians not one of them is clean! Neopotism, kick-backs and destroying Goa in the name of so-called development” is what we keep seeing from all these corrupt politicians from all quarters. In record time all these corrupt politicans have sought to destroy Goa! Read on…. BIGGER THAN IT WAS PARRIKAR'S EGO By Ramakant Khalap - Chairman of Goa Law Commission Published in Goanews "Indian Talent in particular and Information Technology in general are going to catapult India to the Super Power status in the near future". This is the prophecy of Dr Raghunath Mashelkar, India's foremost scientist, who is also a proud Goan. Born in Mashel or Marcel in Ponda Taluka in penury, Dr Mashelkar rose to dizzy heights in Science through hard work, integrity, honesty and commitment to lofty ideals. He was recently in Goa and spoke on the topic "Shaping India's Future through Indian Talent" as a part of the Silver jubilee Lecture series being organized by the Goa University. My association with Dr Mashelkar is about two-decade old. At my request, he had accepted the mantle of Chairmanship of The Info Tech Council of Goa in the year 2000, when I was the first Minister for IT in Goa. Dr Mashelkar roped in stalwarts in the Information Technology field as members of the Goa Info Tech Council. These included the likes of Mr K. Narayan Murthy of Infosys, Mr Rajendra Powar of NIIT, Dr Vijay Bhatkar ( Param Computer fame) of C-DAC, Prof. Inderesan of IIT Kanpur, Mr Devang Mehta of NASSCOM, the former Director General of National Informatics Center etc. These gentlemen prepared the roadmap for Goa's IT revolution. Based on their advice, I prepared a Five-point IT programme. I called it PANCHASHEEL of IT. The Panchasheel included (1) E-education, (2) E-governance, (3) E-enabled IT services, (4) E- habitats and cyber city and (5) ICE or Information, Communication and Entertainment hub. System Requirement Studies (SRS) of all Government departments were required to be done as a prelude to e-governance. Mr. Manohar Parrikar, who was then the Chief Minister of Goa, recommended a firm called Gartner of America for preparation of SRS reports. This firm was represented by a gentleman called Rajyadhyaksha, reportedly a distant relative of Mr Parrikar. Gartner' quote to prepare SRS reports of Government Departments (about 84 in all) was in the range of Rs 2 to 5 crore per department. The total was about Rs 250 to 350 crore. Mr Parrikar was prepared to spend this huge amount on the spacious plea that Gartner is a world renowned company and would do a great job. I refused and instead requested Mr Chandra Babu Naidu, the then Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh to help me prepare SRS reports. He sent a team of about 35 IT engineers and consultants. Dr Vijay Bhatkar pooled in another team of about 30 consultants through C-DAC. Together they did the job in about 3 months at a total cost not exceeding Rs 70 lakh. This perhaps hurt Mr Parrikar's ego. He shelved the SRS reports and also wound up the Info Tech Council headed by such an eminent person as Dr R. A. Mashelkar. Mr Parrikar also succeeded in shunting me out of the next Goa Assembly with active support from my detractors in my party, the Congress. Even after I was out of the Assembly, Mr Parrikar could have implemented the IT programme and claimed the entire credit for it . But what followed is a saga of corruption of Himalayan proportions. Instead of creating "smart e-schools', Mr Parrikar doled out expensive but poor quality computers to individual school students. For this, he accepted the highest bid of around Rs 20 crore from his trusted lieutenant, one Mr Nilesh Amonkar, against the much lower bids of world renowned e-education providers like Tata's and NIIT of Rajendra Powar. He also torpedoed the Cyber City project at Mandrem by setting up his MLA from Mandrem Mr Laxmikant Parsekar, a Science graduate and Headmaster of a local School, who thundered that his Constituency prefers traditional vocations to IT. He incited the local villagers to agitate against my Cyber City and Cyber Retreat projects. The Mandrem plateau has now been sold out to Real Estate Sharks. The IT habitat at Dona Paula, dev
[Goanet] Goa in Huffington post
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:59:14 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho Although I don't agree with?some of what Tony, Frederick and Samir wrote, I certainly agree with them that most NRGs simply don't have a clue about Goa. Mario responds: Neither do many RG, which is probably why Goa is in such a mess to begin with.
[Goanet] Beautified Pomburpa Spring (Pics and Video)
Beautified Pomburpa Spring (Pics and Video) Video Clip – Pompurba Spring - Feb 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgB6we7ig4A Video Clip - Pompurpa Spring - June 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRaBLn_EpnM II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZtmTWPNOOg New Pics - Feb 2010 beautified by GTDC http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4326853617/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4326852991/sizes/l/ The Spring http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4326850451/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4327583914/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4327583400/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4327586480/sizes/l/ at the gate http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4326852079/sizes/l/ In 2008 , as can be seen in the abv video clip, the people of Pomburpa, along with Fr Santana Carvalho, parish priest of Pomburpa, came together to revive the spring. The beautified spring inaugurated in Jan. 2010 by GTDC But sadly, the Parish Priest name is missing on the plate http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4327584750/sizes/l/ Hope Pomburpekars on the net (if any) will explain why? The spring June 2008 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2601917328/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:08:29 -0500 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" Some years ago a Goan doctor - whose questionable study on alcoholism made infamous headlines in the Times of India - wrote to me indicating that most research in India is fudged. I am not sure that this Goan was or is an authority on "research in India". I personally know many ethical research scientists who would never to anything as unethical as fudge for the sake of funding. Mario asks: So, was the Goan doctor fudging or not? BTW, I wonder if the research was "fudged" that showed that eating carrots is a health hazard because 96.766% of those who died over the last five years had ingested carrot products - including carrot fudge - in the 90 days prior to their demise. 95.863% had also ingested milk and milk products during the same period, including all kinds of fudge, which made milk as statistically dangerous as carrots within the factor of error for the sample studied.
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
Hey Richard, In Moira there indeed exists a 'paklo' And I shall not mince words to name him. He is the famous drummer, the tiatrist et al Xavier. He just loves when addressed as Hey, Paklea. Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Cc: "Xanno Moidecar" Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames Are Xannea, Once when I was in a particular village I came across a comic situation vis-a-vis nicknames. Wanting a plucker someone told me to ask "paklo" to do the job and gave me the directions to his place. Imagine my surprise when I came face to face with him at his residence. This "paklo" was a dark as charcoal but in the whole village he was affectionately called "paklo". Have a nic e day! Richard
Re: [Goanet] Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
Samir Kelekar wrote: How much (JC) knows about research ? What are his credentials as a researcher? He should not butt into areas he knows nothing about. RESPONSE: Arre baba. Leave alone boot-lickers who know little and have done even less - in terms of research. Besides, I am sure that JC has NOT done a whole lot compared to those who have published more than 72 papers and counting. On the other hand: This unimportant stuff apparently is available - even via google. Interesting to see how many other authors have used (quoted) the work. http://www.google.com/search?q=colaco+coeliac&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADRA_en Now ...what is it you said about know about 'butting'? jc
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
I wish I could agree with you, Santosh and Marlon wrt sincerity of research and peer reviews. A google on "peer review fraud" reveals that there is much to be desired in these matters in the scientific world. I am not an authority on these matters and indeed I may be proved wrong in my personal conclusions, but as the saying goes, "there's no smoke without a fire". Regards, Gabriel. - Original Message > From: "J. Colaco < jc>" > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 2:08:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ? > > Some years ago a Goan doctor - whose questionable study on > alcoholism made infamous headlines in the Times of India - wrote to me > indicating that most research in India is fudged. > > I am not sure that this Goan was or is an authority on "research in > India". I personally know many ethical research scientists who would > never to anything as unethical as fudge for the sake of funding. > > I have read the posts of Santosh and Marlon on this matter - and I > agree with the points made therein. > > jc > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Cultural history of Ragi
I welcome the very useful and enlightening discussion on Goanet on Ragi/nachni and its’ products. Such protein and vitamin rich millets have nursed generations of humans esp. in paleotropics. My son now four years, was administered plentiful of ragi porridge-Nachnyache satva for more than a year. We also make sweet ragi puddings at home. Some more information on Ragi Late K.T.Achaya was an authority on Indian food. As a college student (1975-81) I used to subscribe to “science Today’, and “science age”, then popular monthly science magazines ( both stopped publication in 90s) . Science Age began a monthly series of articles of Indian food ethos by K.T. Achaya. I relished each one of the information packed, extensively researched article. Oxford University Press then published his three books which adorn my reference library. Anyone interested in food anthropology and especially all the Goan food connoisseurs need to possess these tomes. The first-“ Indian food-an historical companion ‘ is a gem of the tome. I wish I could write a similar one on Goan food through times. That was followed by “Food industries of British India” and the very useful and unique publication-“ A Historical dictionary of Indian food’ (1998, OUP, 350 pages, HB). Having worked on several aspects of cultural history of Goa, these books provided rich insights to me about the direction of my ethnobotanical and ethnophagical and anthropological research. Ragi also known as ‘nachni/nachne” was introduced by the Austric language speakers in Goa. The STs of Goa have traditional knowledge to cultivate this nutrient rich crop. It is a major crop even today in Konkan and along central and southern western ghats. Khazan lands are unsuited for this crop which is good for Ker and morod type of lands. Since settled agriculture in western India (Konkan, Goa) is archaeologically dated to 1400-600 BCE, most probably cultivation of Ragi/Nachne began around that time. I found luxuriant stands of ragi at Surla-Sattari a scenic village on Goa’s border with Karnataka. Unfortunately this millet is fast disappering from ‘old conquest’ talukas of Goa. Probably we are also losing some rare local Ragi cultivars unique to Goa. Coming back to Achaya’s knowledge of Ragi, I take the freedom to quote from his abovementioned dictionary (pp.202-03)- “ Elusine coracana , appropriately called the finger millet, derives from Uganda in east Africa where numerous tribal rituals and religious ceremonies are attached to it, and where six of the nine species grow . The cultivated ragi species that came to India was Eleusine coracana, a tetraploid form with round seeds. This does not cross with the native Indian wild form, E. indica subsp. indica, which is diploid and had oblong seeds, and so cultivated ragi developed in isolation in India . Wild ragi grains have been found in Surkotada in Kutch, a late Indus valley site, and in about 1800 BC both wild and cultivated grains were discovered in Hallur on the banks of the river Tungabhadra . Paiyamapalli in Tamil Nadu showed ragi at 1390 BC levels , perhaps the cultivated form. Many other food plants of India, jowar, bajra and lobia, also originated in west Africa and appreared in India around 2000 B.C. They may have come to India in several ways:landward across the Sabaean lane, up the seaward ledge of Africa , by way of the dhow traffic from Arabia , or as part of the direct monsoon-propelled traffic across the Indian Ocean in both directions . The numerous tribal names for ragi, probably the wild variety, listed in Watt , confirm the ancient provenance of this millet. A charming Sanskrit name is nrtta-kondaka or the ‘dancing grain’ . Sanskrit references to the grain , as rajika or markataka (ragi, from red, is probably colloquial) are rare, but the Bower manuscript of the eighth century AD does have a reference to ragi . It was mentioned as ‘umi’, a food in Bihar, a century ago . It was a common grain at one time in Tamil country, and there are several references to it in early literature. “kelvaragu (red grain), (was) spread on the broad surface of a rock to dry’, notes the karuntogai , and the Purananuru speaks of ‘husking and cooking the ragi grain’. Poets were honoured by kings’ morning and evening with food made by boiling in milk mixed with honey the grain of ragi, which grows on dry lands and resembles the eggs of the pigeon’ , perhaps a reference to the mottled appearance of both. In medical terms ragi is a cold and sweet food . Ragi is consumed as nachni in southern Mharashtra, and widely as a staple food in Karnataka. The grain is gently roasted (sometimes after it is prouted and dried) , ground and served, and the pinkish flour eathen as a ball or gruel, either sweetened or salted. This flour is also a popular weaning food.” Achaya has used 14 references to support the above information, all are listed at the end of the book. Ragi is sold even today in Mapusa market and weekly markets at Sanquelim, H
Re: [Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:05:31 -0800 (PST) From: marlon menezes Folks like Gabriel and Mario seem to be quite out of touch, if not ignorant on how research is conducted and verified in academia and industry. Bottom line is that one does not rely on a scientist's or company's integrity or sincerity, but rather, on the impersonal collective exchange and verification of results to determine what works and what doesn't. Mario responds: Once again, we see the facile truth-twisting, deliberate distortions of facts, and false personal finger-pointing that comes so easily to Marlon. The facts in the emails disclosed by the whistleblower at East Anglia College clearly showed that like minded scientists were conspiring to with-hold scientific data, had actually destroyed raw data, were planning to destroy data if forced by law to disclose it, and were actively demeaning and obstructing scientists who disagreed with them. As far as actual results are concerned, we have seen global warming on Pluto and Mars without a single human anywhere in sight, and major climate change modelers working with the IPCC warning that their models are seriously out of kilter, had been wrong for over a decade and that we may see global cooling for the next two decades.
Re: [Goanet] Damning admission by Indian climate change scientist
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar To those who do not believe in world-wide conspiracies and in ideologically based theories that the entire climate science community is dishonest and corrupt enough to fabricate scientific data for the last three decades,... http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/indicators/ Mario observes: Once again, these charts show the breaks in the correlation between the growth in CO2 and global temperatures over long periods of time. Regarding conspiracy theories, the emails disclosed by the whistleblower at East Anglia College showed that there was scientific bias and an active ongoing consipracy of like minded scientists going on by the extreme environmental lobby, with peer reviews conducted by like minded colleagues and obstacles placed in front of dissenters. There are several good reasons to question the motives of the climate change scientists who seem to have been co-opted by politicians and one-world-order types who believe in the redistribution of wealth and the quest for grant money based on creating an alarm. This group of scientists have not acted in an open minded fashion towards those who disagree with them, like other scientists are known to do. I doubt Santosh would ever dismiss or deliberately seek to bury scientific opinions that differ from his own from publication, as we saw going on at East Anglia College. Here are some facts in no particular order: 1. The summary reports issued by the IPCC are written by political appointees not the thoussands of scientists as claimed by the environmental ideologues who work on bits and pieces of the project as a whole.. 2. Rajendra Pachauri falsely poses as a climate scientist for media purposes. The man is a railway engineer. He deliberately delayed correcting the report on Himalayan glaciers and we have no idea if he would have done so unless exposed by others. 3. When "An Inconvenient Truth" was garnering accolades around the world and earning a Nobel Peace Prize not a single climate scientist, stepped forward to expose the nine deliberate errors that were included by Al Gore. With all due respect, Santosh, I don't remember hearing a word from you exposing the falsehoods during that farce presented as scientific fact. Your spirited advocacy has been largely one sided. 4. If the climate scientists truly believed their own theory about CO2 being the cause of global warming, I submit that they should not have they excluded India, China and all the less developed countries from the provisions of the Kyoto Treaty while pretending that it would have an effect on greenhouse gases. 5. Blaming 0.039% of the earth's atmosphere for the entire atmosphere acting as a greenhouse makes no intuitive sense, especially in the context of the global warming taking place on Pluto and Mars. None of the extreme environmentalists mention Pluto or Mars. 6. Pretending that total CO2 will be seriously reduced by the economic contractions being proposed and made mandatory only on the western economies, when man-made CO2 is only 0.013%, is like a sick joke, if the extreme environmentalists were not so influential. 7. The climate change models simply failed over the last decade. Yet we are being asked to believe them in the future and turn the economies of the world upside down based on these speculative models. Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:19:33 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar Samir is mistaken. The peer-review process and scientific research have served humanity quite well. They are singularly responsible for all the scientific and technological advancement on which Samir and Gabriel depend for their day to day living and livelihood. The self-regulatory and self-corrective mechanisms that are uniquely built into the nature of science ensure that truth always prevails over falsehood in the long run. Mario observes: Santosh is right. Unfortunately, when biased science is being used to devise biased economic policy, the long run is not good enough as serious damage can be caused in the meantime. The chicanery engaged in by politically motivated climate scientists has experienced many disclosures recently, and the necessary skepticism among honest and serious scientists that was missing in this particular field, will result in better information in the future. Thank God the disclosures were caught in time and more honest and cooler heads will prevail as the science of climate change moves forward. I believe it would help the credibility of the debate if self-serving charlatans like Al Gore and Rajendra Pachauri, who have created beneficial business interests for themselves, were removed from the debate by honest climate change scientists.
[Goanet] Deplorable Goan Politicians
Taking the liberty to post this article by Claude Alvares in this connection. this mastermnd schemester has set his eyes on the Tivim Land again in connivance with the various officials. By the way ask the old residents around Mapusa church how he acquired the hom of the two maiden sisters who lived in Bombay without paying them for it. Even Governor Sidhu on his Republic Day address was pushing for acquiring Goan land for Mopa Airport - we all know why that Airport is being pushed forward and who has invested in purchasing land in the area. Ranes are busy bequeathing Land in Bambolim for the Israelis for a Hospital to get the kickbacks. None of these politicians nor the Governor care for Goa or Goans. *Stealing Land for the Tivim Stadium * *CLAUDE ALVARES* exposes how paddy fields and comunidade land were grabbed to help GCA, a private body The Government of Goa has today become the single biggest thief of private and Comunidade properties in the state. A recent case is the acquisition of land for the International Cricket Stadium, a pet project of Dayanand Narvekar and the Goa Cricket Association, to be located at Tivim. The acquisition involved two classes of land. The first was a bunch of paddy fields just outside Mapusa town. Though the sales and services report of the enquiry officer (land acquisition) indicated that the compensation to be paid to the farmers would have to be in the region of nearly Rs6 crore, the department on its own decided internally to reduce the amount to less than Rs1 crore. This is wholesale misappropriation of property from ordinary people who are unable to fight back. An area of 44,000 sq m of the land acquired for the cricket stadium at Tivim was identified as forest by the Sawant and Karapurkar Expert Committees. Once the Goa Foundation drew this to the attention of the government in February 2007, it imposed a clampdown on any work in the area. Media reports had indicated that Mr Narvekar wanted the tenders for construction to be issued in January 2007 itself. The Goa Government then filed an application for diversion of the forest land under the provisions of the Forest Conservation Act, 1980. As per existing laws concerning proposals that involve destruction of natural forests, the following conditions must be met if the Ministry of Environment & Forests is to approve the proposal: (a) Payment by the developer of Net Present Value (NPV) of the diverted forest land, which in the Tivim case amounted to Rs30.5 lakh; (b) Payment towards compensatory afforestation, which in the Tivim case was another Rs4 lakh; and (c) Handover of equivalent land for the compensatory forest to be raised. The Sports Department coughed up the huge amount of Rs34.5 lakhs, thus meeting conditions (a) and (b). Note that this money came from the public exchequer, and not from the pockets of the Goa Cricket Association, a private body, for which the backdoor acquisition was intended. Condition (c) was more difficult since land is a scarce commodity in Goa. In the case of the Tivim cricket stadium, the Goa government simply stole the land that was required to put up for compensatory afforestation! Mr Narvekar on his own admission in writing said he was “successful” in giving 44,000 sq m of land from the Comunidade of Sirsaim to the Forest Department for afforestation. How was this achieved? On 24 July 2007, the Comunidade Attorney issued a letter to the Conservator of Forests which stated that the Sirsaim Comunidade “has resolved to give an area of 44,000 sq m of its vacant land situated at Sirsaim near Thivim station bearing Survey No 12 for forestation”. While the approval of the Comunidade was conveyed to the government by the Attorney on 24 July 2007, the notice for the meeting of the Comunidade of Sirsaim to be held on 19 August to approve the handover only appeared in the Goa Gazette on 2 August 2007. Since there was no quorum on 19 August, the meeting was abandoned. However, on the same day, the Managing Committee met and approved the proposal! (Incidentally, the very same managing committee is now facing a High Court enquiry for forgery of documents, illegal allotment of over 300 plots, misappropriation of funds and other irregularities.) Thus the decision to handover 44,000 sq m of land of Sirsaim Comunidade without receiving even a token consideration was taken almost one month after the Attorney had not only anticipated the decision but also conveyed it in writing to the Forest Department. Under the Code of Comunidades, there is no provision in the Code for handing over free even one square metre of land (much less 44,000 sq m) to the government or anyone else. Comunidades may issue land on lease to the government but no land can be “distrained” permanently. In no case can land be handed over without a consideration. Despite being aware of the provisions of the Code, the Revenue Department issued an order on 15 July 2008 conveying approval of the government for the grant of land
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[Goanet] Goanet] How many researchers are sincere to their research ?
How much Jose Colaco knows about research ? What are his credentials as a researcher? He should not butt into areas he knows nothing about. samir
[Goanet] Goa in Huffington post
Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Was not Selma-bai telling us that any potential offender of a Goan woman would be "stripped bare and beaten up with chappals and then left naked in the middle of the street"? Will rape in Goa be a creeping crime, that today victimizes tourists and tomorrow the natives (similar to the drug problem? And then, supposedly the chappals will come out? Granted that Selma-bai was snagged by some unintended phraseology which made her sound self-righteous in defending the native Goan, while she sits safely in her own abode in far-away England. To me it looks like Goa needs a program of "Neighborhood Watch" where local residents help the police in maintaining 'Law and Order' in Goa and more importantly in their own neighborhoods. Gilbert, I don't know why you are trying to draw me into every post. I've not said any such thing that any potential offender of women would be stripped bare. I think you have an issue with phraseology. For starters you can look up the phrase "name-dropping" and realise that you were using it in entirely the wrong context. Then look up the word, contribution. Secondly, I don't care much for Arianna Huffington and her far-left ideology. To me, far-left liberals are as kookie as right-wing conservatives. I think the Huffinton Post huffs about the wrong things. Granted most of the articles are not written by Arriana, they are just carried by the post. I can still walk my entire village in Goa at 12 in the night and nothing will happen to me, but I wouldn't dare go out in London after 4pm and certainly not in New York. That is not to trivialise what has happened to these women. What is disturbing in Goa is the response of the authorities. Gilbert, please do go to Goa and set up this neighbourhood watch. When someone attacks you, you can politely ask for a receipt and their id. This goes hand-in-hand with your other idea of sending Goan taxi-drivers on evening training courses to give them alternative skills. Although I don't agree with some of what Tony, Frederick and Samir wrote, I certainly agree with them that most NRGs simply don't have a clue about Goa. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] Moira - the nicknames
Are Xannea, Once when I was in a particular village I came across a comic situation vis-a-vis nicknames. Wanting a plucker someone told me to ask "paklo" to do the job and gave me the directions to his place. Imagine my surprise when I came face to face with him at his residence. This "paklo" was a dark as charcoal but in the whole village he was affectionately called "paklo". Have a nic e day! Richard Xanno Moidecar wrote: > The inevitability of inheriting a ubiquitous sobriquet is the reason I > believe, that has prompted Moidecars down the ages to take recourse to > alternative appellations. > > Can you blame us? Any one, so long as he is known to have the slightest > connection to that GOD’s own little acre, is automatically heir to the rather > insalubrious and even insulting insinuation: ‘Moidecho pisso’. > > Most of us have grown inured; however, there have always been vain attempts > at breaking free. Nouro Bostiao, Thonto Bostiao, Sonso Jose, Tambddo Anton, > Dhovo Anton….. music to my ears. There were all good man. The Anton’s are > still around. The others have gone to that enclosure reserved by our > heavenly FATHER for the extra special. > > A great big sign marks the spot, it reads simply: “Moideche”. Somebody has > rubbed out the following word. > > Only the P is barely discernible. > > Sincerely > > Xanno Moidecar > > >
