[Goanet-News] Photos from the Goa Carnival 2010

2010-02-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
Photos from the Goa Carnival 2010
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[Goanet] Engage in Physical Activity in Midlife to Retain Overall Health Later in Life | Worldhealth.net

2010-02-13 Thread Con Menezes
Engage in Physical activity in midlife for Overall Health in later life.
World Health.net
 Continue reading.
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http://www.worldhealth.net:80/news/engage-physical-activity-midlife-retain-overall-he/


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Today's Panjim Carnival pics - Preview

2010-02-13 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Panjim Carnival Today - Preview
 
All pics taken around 12 noon today
(13.2.10)
 
Stage setup for the 4 day Carnival programes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4352515365/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353261650/sizes/l/

the streets/ promenade (riverside/market/ferry)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4352515999/sizes/l/
 
opp Old GMC/Market
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4352516375/sizes/l/

opp old Secretariat
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353262668/sizes/l/




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Re: [Goanet] Ministers Literacy Rate

2010-02-13 Thread floriano

An easy experiment:

Give a pick axe in the hands of an elite educated holding various degrees 
and tell him to dig a pit. At the same time give a paper and pen to an 
undeducated and tell him to write an essay on how to dig a pit.


The moral of the story is:
Whereas on the one side, a person can write everything about digging a pit 
to perfection, but it takes the digger to do the job. That means both must 
work in tendon with one another to get the desired results.


Governance is the same. Those who are elected must be visionaries like our 
ancestors,  many of whom were not educated but have a lot to show for their 
wisdom. The level of education will not necessarily improve governance. It 
takes more of  common sense, dedication and vision.


Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
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www.goasu-raj.org


GOA does not only need HONEST persons to contest elections, and,
Goa does not only need HONEST  voters to elect honest persons.
But GOA mainly needs an 'HONEST SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'.
Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be honest  or to QUIT.
Such HONEST SYSTEM is knocking at GOA's portals.
A 'PRECIOUS GIFT' to GOA by committed GOANS.
A  'GIFT HORSE'  that must not be looked in the mouth.

PPS=PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY
Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness 
tomorrow.





- Original Message - 
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:53 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Ministers Literacy Rate



Subject: Ministers Literacy Rate



Goa is recognised as a having a high literacy rate and large number of
people, have at least passed Secondary Education. Is this same literacy 
rate

reflective, for ministers in our current government, particularly Salcete,
which has many of its MLA's as Ministers? No Wonder, Goa is not 
progressing

harmoniously!!  It is high time Literate Goans start taking a greater role
in the governance and the constructive development of Goa; with respect to
preserving our land, culture and identity. Overseas Goans in particular, 
who
have gained Global Expertise  Best Practices should now consider 
returning

and saving Goa from the Current MLA's and other destructive elements!!



Arwin Mesquita, UAE. 




[Goanet] want to join Goanet

2010-02-13 Thread Rajesh Dessai
Hello Goans at Goanet,
I came across your list and would like to receive the digest daily.
Can you please register me?  Are you charging any fees?  Nice to see
Goan issues discussed, that is good.
Anxiously waiting for your positive reply.
Thanking you
Raj
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Re: [Goanet] The Portuguese Republic and Goa...

2010-02-13 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes
Dear Fred,

Bravo! What a wonderful spirited response to my provocation. Thank you, your
response does me honour.

To address your questions though, let me begin my indicating that I am not
suggesting that the Portuguese Republic is without its problems. The
Portuguese Republic was full of problems, though not necessarily the
problems you indicate. The Republic was in fact, more 'colonial' than the
monarchy ever was. The Republicans responding to 'European' threats to their
'colonial possessions'. The Republic, and its current celebrations are not
without its own nationalist element, which is quite frankly distasteful.

Having said this however, which event, person in history is not? The Indian
Republic is full of problems, even a personage as hallowed as Gandhi is not
without serious problems, that might even render him untouchable at some
levels. Thus clearly, merely because the event is problematic on some
levels, does not make it something we must ignore.

I will grant you this much though, that my language ought to have been
tempered. The word we are looking for is commemorate, with its implications
of solemn and critical review, rather than celebrate, which suggest
uncritical embrace.

When we ask whether the Republic intended the benefits to the colonies or
not, I think we are playing an old, tired, nationalist card, which is the
one card I am clearly trying to avoid in my column. Despite your good
intentions, you very often tend to play this card. Unwittingly perhaps, but
it shows us the power of (anti-colonial) nationalism as an ideology.

You also ignore the fact that I am trying to point out, that the politics of
Republics was exactly the politics of claims and what they allowed us to do
with it. Were it not for such politics, we would not have any of the
emancipatory politics we have today. None of them! The Age of the Republics
was entirely about claims that were made for bourgeois interests, rather
than man-kind. But we can still turn it and use it against oppression.

Thus, if a Bahujan activist can use it even today, I say we should
strengthen her arm, rather than shoot her down. We should see what we can do
to create a different history from the one we have inherited, and the one
that we are presented. I will reiterate that this assertion that was made,
fundamentally changed the way I looked at things. And for this point alone,
it should be commemorated.

Finally, to commemorate it allows us to recognise that the elite Goan Hindu,
who is today the one crying hoarse about the trials of colonialism, in fact
had it quite well. They were able to benefit from the Republic, only because
they were already in a dominant position. They DID benefit from the
Republic, and we should not allow this fact to be erased. To do so, allows
the bad eggs among them, to play this ridiculous card they have been playing
where the colonial period was one long dark holocaust for them. No sir, I
will not allow them to play this card.

will end on this note, hoping I have made my point


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 Jason, I think the jury is still out in Portugal itself on the
 benefits and role of the First Portuguese Republic. Was the 1910-1926
 phase really progressive and democratic? Was it a continuation of the
 earlier elitist and liberal regimes? Or was it revolutionary and
 dictatorial at the same time?

 While there were obvious impact in the colonies (including Goa), how
 much of this was incidental and how much of it due to the very nature
 of this regime, which saw a total of eight Presidents, one Provisional
 Government, 38 Prime Ministers and 1 Constitutional Junta?

 Incidentally, it will remain one of the ironies of colonial politics
 (and the responses to the metropole) that a conservative President
 elected in August 1919 has his name accepted and continued as the name
 of a prominent school in Ponda, Goa.

 What was the nature of the Portuguese Republican Party (PRP) --
 republican or, in actuality, a dictatorship? What about politicians
 like Sid?nio Pais, and the politics of Sidonismo or Dezembrismo? Not
 excluding traditional values and P?tria? Why the need to clamp down
 on working-class movements and leftist republicans?

 It would be interesting to see which side diverse sections of Goans
 decide to dwell on, as the season for anniversaries approaches -- 2010
 (500 years of Vasco and a century of the Portuguese First Republic) or
 2011 (50 years of the end of Portuguese rule, and the many loaded
 terms used to describe this... ranging from invasion to Liberation
 and India's use of force... the last being part of the name 

[Goanet] How Russian rules in Morjim,

2010-02-13 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
How Russian rules in Morjim, and later on Goans will be treated in the
same way, the taxi driver was assaulted in the rest of goa.
First Goans sold their lands now they are leasing their business to Russians.
But mind you Tourist Taxi drivers in the coastal belt from Cavelossim
to Majorda are a law unto themselves
thanks to the political patronage.
Among their victims were a group of journalists a decade back,
fortunately i was not one of them in the group.
Till now they have issues with the hotels and the politicians hailing
from the belt have not been able to sort out the issue,
and they do not want to, as they want to use it for their vested purpose.



Russian assaults taxi driver, locals pay back

HERALD CORRESPONDENT

PERNEM, FEB 12
Tempers ran high at Vithalwado-Morjim late Thursday night, after a
45-year-old taxi driver from Morjim was brutally assaulted by a
Russian who operates a bar in the area.
Irate locals then assaulted the Russian, Konstantian Alexander
Morozollee, as he tried to escape from the site. Pernem police has
arrested five persons, besides the Russian bar owner, in the
connection.
The incident took place at about 11 pm as Konstantian was planning a
party at Ashwen beach to celebrate his birthday on Saturday.
It is learnt that the Russian, who allegedly runs a bar at Ashvem
Beach, had gone to Vithalwado to paste some advertisement for the
party on Saturday.
According to Pernem police, Konstantian was in a Swift car
(Ga-08-0003) when he reportedly flashed his car headlights on some
local taxi drivers.
The taxi drivers requested the Russian to put off the lights and this
infuriated him. In a fit of anger, Konstantian allegedly abused and
assaulted taxi driver, Rohidas Atmaram Shetgaonkar, with fist-blows.
Rohidas collapsed on the road and was later rushed to GMC Hospital at
Bambolim with severe injuries, where he was reported to be in a
serious condition.
Furious over the sudden attack on the taxi driver, an irate group of
locals rushed in search of Konstantian, who tried to escape by hiding
in a nearby restaurant, run by another Russian.
The locals, however, caught hold of the Russian and assaulted him,
causing him a fracture to his finger. Konstiantian managed to escape
in another car. The locals then damaged the Swift car, which
Konstiantian had brought to the site.
Later, Konstiantian got himself admitted in a private hospital at
Mapusa and also filed a police complaint against the local youth from
Morjim.
Pernem police have arrested Tukaram Palyekar, Amrut Phadte, Domnic
Cardozo, Girish Devji and Gorish Lingudkar under Sections 143, 147,
148, 325, 452, 504, 427 CrPC, who were later released on bail.
In the meantime, Rohidas’ brother, Mahesh, filed a police compliant
against Konstantian, who was later arrested under Section 307 of IPC.


[Goanet] Short clip of Today's Panjim Carnival - Parade/Streets etc

2010-02-13 Thread JoeGoaUk
Short clip of Today's Panjim Carnival - Parade Streets etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIeZiinqerA
 
 
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[Goanet] IGRANT COMMISSIONER OF GOA BACAHO

2010-02-13 Thread anil desai
*
*

*Soter De souza wrote:*

*
*
*Fri Feb 12 23:32:30 PST 2010*

*There seems to be a well orchestrated attempt to justify influx of migrants
into Goa. Incidentally, most of the migrant journalists are controlling
Goa's news and opinion. *


Soterbab,

People who wish to hide behind The constitution of India should tell the
people the whole truth. The scholars who wrote the constitution of India did
guarentee freedom of movement as well as settlement for Indian citizens
under article 19 but then they also provided 19. 5 ( quoted below).

Article 19.5  did forsee a situation wherein the inward migration  could
have detrimental effect on the general public in a particular state and
under these circumstances, that state is allowed to make laws imposing
reasonable restrictions on the exercise of any of the rights conferred by
the said sub-clauses i.e. (d) and (e).

The problems created by migrants have been highlighted in the past and
ultimately it is for the people of Goa to decide whether they should
persuade the local politicians to enact such laws but to pretend that the
constitution guarentees uncotrolled migration into any state of India is a
myth.

There is no doubt at all that maladministration in some of our states is
leading to migration to relatively prosperous states like Goa and
Maharashtra. In the long run, this will have serious and even disastous
consequences for these states and it is high time that independent minded
senior lawyers looked at this provision in the constitution to stop
uncontrolled migration wherein the migrants have to settle in shanty towns
created for the benefit of vote bank politics.

As to whether the 'Migrant Commissioner' of Goa Bachao is sympathetic to
migrants because of political aspirations remains to be seen. I would not
like to bet against it.

*
*

*Article 19 Protection of certain rights regarding freedom of speech, etc.*

(1) All citizens shall have the right -

(d) to move freely throughout the territory of India;
(e) to reside and settle in any part of the territory of India; and

(5) Nothing in sub-clause (d) and (e) of the said clause shall affect the
operation of any existing law in so far as it imposes, or prevent the State
from making any law imposing, reasonable restrictions on the exercise of any
of the rights conferred by the said sub-clauses either in the interests of
the general public or for the protection of the interests of any Schedule
Tribe.***

*
*

*Anil Desai*
*
*


[Goanet] want to join Goanet

2010-02-13 Thread Salus Correia
Rajesh Dessai wrote:

Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:44:57 +1100

From: Rajesh Dessai goy...@gmail.com

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org

Subject: [Goanet] want to join Goanet

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Hello Goans at Goanet,

I came across your list and would like to receive the digest daily.

Can you please register me? ?Are you charging any fees? ?Nice to see

Goan issues discussed, that is good.

Anxiously waiting for your positive reply.

Thanking you

Raj

Rajesh Dessai

 

 

Response:

Welcome to Goanet Rajesh.  Looking forward to seeing one more active poster.

Don't be disheartened if you are attacked in response to your posting: we
have different kinds of posters on Goanet as you may have seen, and mostly
all of them have Goa deep in their hearts.  So you can expect 'mog ani fog'
Please feel free to send in your thoughts.  Good luck!!!

 

Salus Correia



[Goanet] Some points on Rajdeep Sardesai's open letter to Uddhav Thackeray

2010-02-13 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
In an open letter to Uddhav Thackeray, on the Shiv Sena severe criticism of
Shahrukh Khan, Rajdeep Sardesai writes:  Sharukh is no surprise since the
Sena has always been uncomfortable with the Indian Muslim identity.

Clearly the secularists cannot view ANY issue except on communal terms.
There are some Muslims who are members of the Shiv Sena and also who support
the Shiv Sena.  I guess, accoroding to Rajdeepji, they are really not true
Muslims.  And what about Muslims who have also criticised Shahrukhji on this
issue?  I guess, they too are not true Muslims.

Rajdeepji also writes: You've called Sharukh a traitor for wishing to
choose Pakistani cricketers in the IPL. 

This is an utter and blatant lie.  But then to show one's so-called secular
credentials it is necessary to resort to lies.  Without which one cannot
make any case.

Rajdeepji knows (or should know) that Shahrukh was termed a traitor by Shiv
Sena because he said that Pakistan is a GREAT neighbour.  Now, one can say
that Shiv Sena is wrong on this issue.  But bring out his statement out in
the public, rather than tell les.  Furthermore, Shajrukhji should be asked
why he did not choose any Paksitani players himself.

Rajdeepji would like Uddahvji to focus on some important issues.  For
example, he writes: Farmer suicides still continue, the after-effects of
drought are still being faced in several districts, but the focus is now
squarely on finding high profile hate figures.

I am sure if Rajdeepji devotes the resources of his channel on these
important issues, instead of giving a minute-by-minute report on the travel
programme of Rahul Gandhi in Mumbai, the people of this country would be
eternally grateful to him.

Rajdeepji writes: The Congress-NCP government in the state has been
thoroughly incompetent: the last decade has seen Maharashtra decline on most
social and economic parameters.

I do not watch Rajdeepji's channel.  Has he highlighted this issue of
incompetence in any meaningful manner?

A general question.  Has Rajdeepji written an open letter to Digvijay Singh
on the latter's visit to Azamgarh in UP, which is well-known to be a hotbed
of creators of terrorists in India?  He will probably write a letter in open
praise of Digvijayji.

The open letter is available at:
http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsardesai/1/61523/an-open-letter-to-uddhav
-thackeray.html





[Goanet] Happy Valentine's 14th Feb and Viva Carnival.....

2010-02-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Jc1kXMkuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O1QiAgSzl0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30HcB_Thnpofeature=related
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] The Last Refuge of the Scoundrel

2010-02-13 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -


Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, so goes an old cliché.
In the case of Indians, replace patriotism with constitution.  For
a people renowned for breaking laws and violating rules at every
step and every waking moment, it is risible, not to mention predictable,
to see Dr. Rebello waving the constitution now that he has been
cornered.

Someone emailed me saying that Dr. Oscar Rebello, the disgraced 
ex-convener of GBA, has written a column in Herald, Feb 12.  So 
I went to the Herald website.  After wading through a paragraph 
of his hooey, I retraced, felled by the farrago of 'original thoughts'
flowing from Goa's numero uno footsie dancer. 

Dr. Rebello now appears to have developed a crush on the
constitution.  Not long ago, when Digu flouted the Supreme Court
ruling to save his buddy Timblo's bacon, Dr. Rebello's love of the 
constitution lay dormant.  When a well-known builder from Margao 
depleted an orchard for his dubious mega-project in Benaulim,
nobody recalled seeing Dr. Rebello and the constitution locked in
a compromising position.  This builder, by the way, is one 
on whom Dr. Rebello has conferred the mantle of great Goan.  
Quite obviously, Dr. Rebello imagines the constitution as a condom,
to be used and discarded at his convenience.

Turning serious for a moment - the schlock he has dumped in
Herald notwithstanding, Dr. Rebello knows nothing at all about the
Indian constitution.  The constitution does not give the migrants the
right to come into Goa and sleep on footpaths, to squat on public
land, to park themselves in slums, to defecate in the open, and 
so on.  This point is so elementary that even the ghatis know 
of it.  But then, Dr. Rebello imagines that he is too clever by half
and that he can fool us Goans yet again.

This charlatan mislead the people of Goa, and colluded with the
govt of Digambar Kamat while leading Goans to believe he was
fighting on their behalf.  His mask was stripped and the scam
exposed - amusing that he thought he could get away by burying
his footsie dance admission deep in one of his kindergarten-style
columns.

Looks like now he has checked into a rehabilitation clinic, metaphorically
speaking.  The new column he threatens to dump on us every fortnight 
is a desperate attempt to reboot his, alas crashed, hard drive.
Perhaps Dr. Rebello has set his sights on entering politics.  Hence 
the dire need to burnish his image, present himself as the soul of 
tolerance and inclusivity.  He has also declared that he is not the 
enemy of the real estate industry.  That's Politics 101 for you - know 
and love thy funding sources.

Dr. Rebello ought to lead by example.  There are ghatis
defecating on the waterline not too far from his place.  Won't
he for a day be Dr. Nice and let them use the bathroom infrastructure 
in his own home?  The ghatis can only hope.

PS: Another exciting plot coming your way, Goans - Arvind Bhatikar is
now back in an active role in GBA.  Just to refresh, Bhatikar's resume 
has only 2 lines: bum pal of Digu, bum pal of Timblo.  
Nice work, GBA!

Regards,


r



Re: [Goanet] What's on at the Kala Academy: Gems, ideas, Indo European Dance Festival and school days ...

2010-02-13 Thread Gregsen G

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Rs. 500.00 each.

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[Goanet] Samir Kelekar and his problem with Rajan;s citizenship

2010-02-13 Thread anil desai
Samir kelekar wrote:

1) The attack on NRGs and Rajan was in response to Rajan's attack
on Oscar which appeared in Herald.
Response: This shows that Oscar Rebello, you and your father have one common
link, Digambar Kamat. Since Oscar played Footsie with him, since you are
hoping to get sops from him and since your father heads a unique NGO that
has the head of goa government as one of the officebearers and had has
received hundreds of thousands of rupees from a debt ridden government, it
is not surprising that you have to show solidarity with Oscar.

2) My point was that Rajan being a US citizen has been an opportunist
person and now he wants to interfere in Goan politics. I stand
by the fact that as a US citizen he has no political rights in
India and needs to change his citizenship. Obvioulsy, none of
the NRGs even talked about the latter point, probably because
opportunists dont consider that important. I indeed even went
to the extent saying that Rajan would be a hero if he
changed back
his citizenship and plunged into fixing Goa. How about discussing
this aspect of it? Can one for instance have a Portuguese citizenship
and get politically involved in Goa ?

Response: I did respond to this point. Probably it was difficult for you to
understand. I gave you my own example, which I will repeat: I hold Indian
citizenship. I do not have voting rights in India. However, I do have
political rights in India. I do have voting right for council, parliamentary
and European elections in the UK. The point is: you should not confuse
voting rights with political rights.
Rajan, like me pays taxes in India, has property in goa and has OCI. This
does give him political rights even if he is not allowed to vote because of
vagaries of rules of Indian government. Manmohan singh has publicly promised
to change this before 2014.

It is therefore pointless for you to divert attention from the sterling work
that Rajan has done with a documentary that he produced without any
government grant and also his successful PIL.

3) The point about the Anil Desai conversation which again Jose
harps on again and again. The conversation is there in the archives
for anyone to say. Anil attacked my father's credentials and
he was promptly responded to.

Response: I do not know your father and I have not attacked your father's
credentials. I did raise the point about MARG. You accepted that  it has
just appointed the Chief Minister of goa government as an office bearer.
This makes MARG a unique NGO. You also accepted that this NGO has received
hundreds of thousands of rupees from goa government. Goa has one of the
highest mortality from road traffic accidents and these figures have largely
remained high. So, it would be nice to know what credible change this
organisation has brought to road safety in goa. When I asked about grants,
you pointed me to a website that gives very little info on expenses. So,
your response left a lot to be desired.

Anil Desai

PS: For the purpose of this post on this forum, I am a saffronite. I might
even have have been trained to hate catholics during my early years although
I do not have clear recollection of this.


Re: [Goanet] MIGRANT COMMISSIONER

2010-02-13 Thread soter
Dr, Anil wrote:
People who wish to hide behind The constitution of India should tell the
people the whole truth.

Dr. Anil,
I fully agree with you on the constitutional aspect. The problem is that people 
read the constitution and law books like a novel. Every word is taken 
literally. Therefore, I have left all my arguments on the migrant issue for an 
appropriate moment. Let the footsie dancers swing a little before they stamp on 
their own toes.

-Soter D'souza


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Goa Carnival 2010 (Panjim Floats)

2010-02-13 Thread JoeGoaUk
Sorry, I am late.
I am late because floats ended late
We were at Campal and the last float arrived at 8pm
And it must have reached at ending point at 8.15pm
The same must have left at the starting point at 7.30 or earlier.
King Momo from start to end took 55 minutes
It was to start at 3 pm but started just before 4pm
Ended at 8.15pm
I am home at 9.15pm
Sorted out and uploaded by 10pm
And here you got it at 10.15pm
Report to follow..
 
Happy Carnival to you all
 


King Momo
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353249343/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353957438/sizes/l/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353248877/sizes/l/
 
Goan King Momo with Foreign staff (No Goan band mansters in Goa?)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353966460/sizes/l/
 
Queen Momo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353955520/sizes/l/
Close-up
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353206021/sizes/l/

Grape yard
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353207525/sizes/l/
 
Goan traditional ‘Chamar’ (Cobbler)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353958250/sizes/l/
 
Flower girls
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353959060/sizes/l/
 
Beautiful ‘Dosnni Fulam’ hibiscus
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353959928/sizes/l/
 
With beautiful butterfly
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353960728/sizes/l/
 
Save our wildlife – Do not shoot Leopards
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353961594/sizes/l/
 
Giant Eagle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353212981/sizes/l/
 
Gorilla and a dragon?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353962560/sizes/l/
 
don’t Stress out our Planet
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353213969/sizes/l/
 
our National Bird
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353214497/sizes/l/

Zot and zotkaxi
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353963888/sizes/l/
 
Transplanting
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353964262/sizes/l/
 
After transplanting then weeding, then harvest/thrashing then
this ‘Bhoum’
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353964758/sizes/l/
 
Bhatkar, Bhatkan, Kamdaram, Kunnbi, Moddki, Mol etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353965216/sizes/l/
 
and finally, 
a tribute to King of the pops
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4353965636/




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[Goanet] Photos from the Goa Carnival 2010

2010-02-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
Photos from the Goa Carnival 2010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623426790282/

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[Goanet] One foreigner among 8 killed in Pune terror attack

2010-02-13 Thread Mauricio Pereira


 














One foreigner among 8 killed in Pune terror attack
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[Goanet] Chess teach us not to be discouraged by failur es but helps in acknowledging that failure is a stepping stone of success.” Anuja Prabhdesai

2010-02-13 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
“Chess teach us not to be
discouraged by failures but helps in acknowledging that failure is a stepping
stone of success.”  Anuja Prabhdesai
“Need of  Thruth Supporting Initiative in our Society”,
Shri Rajendra Kerkar.
 
“Dilesh Shtye wins Chess
tournament” 
 
For 
photos...clickhttp://picasaweb.google.co.in/shri8131/Feb12FreedomFromTrap#


The Chess Activity Centre of The
International Centre organised a “FREEDOM FROM TRAP” at the International
Centre Goa, Dona Paula on Friday 12th February 2010 Mrs. Anuja
Prabhudesai, the former Law Secretary Goa was the Chief Guest, while the noted 
environmentalist,
historian and social worker Shri Rajendra Kerkar presided over the prize 
distribution
function. 
 
Earlier in the evening the young
chess coach Shravan Shrikant Barve demonstrated the moves of the “FREEDOM FROM
TRAP”. Followed by chess tournament for adults (above 25 years age group), 15
chess played participated.
 
Dilesh Shetye from Porvorim  won all four rounds and  win’s  ‘above
25 chess tournament’ organised Chess Activity Centre of International Centre
Goa, Dona Paula  held on Friday 12, 2010
at its venue. Vasant Naik with 3.5 points and Venkatesh Shetty with 3 point
stood 2nd and 3rd respectivly. 
 
In his keynote address. Shri
Rajendra Kerkar highlighted the need for protecting and safeguarding the 
environment.
He said it was essential to the individuals to be true to themselves and the
nature. He emphasized the need to see feel and worship nature, which is nothing
but an expression of Goa. Worshiping nature, he said, would
lead to conservation and preservation of nature.
 
Speaking on the game of chess, Mrs.
Anuja Prabhudesai compared the game of chess to game of chess of life, as
both involve planning, analysing and execution of strategies. She said that the
game of chess builds patience and concentration and helps in thinking logically
and taking right decision at the right time. Patience and persistent practice
regardless of pitfalls and failures revels new moves, tactics and new ways
overcoming threats. It infuses courage and confidence and teach us not to be
discouraged by failures but helps in acknowledging that failure is a stepping
stone of success.. In short, it helps us to use our intelligence intelligently.
Smt. Nandini Sahay, Director of
The International Centre Goa, highlighted the activities conducted at the
centre. She also appreciated the efforts of Shri Shrikant Barve in conducting
chess tournaments at the centre and grooming and training the young talented
players. She concluded by proposing vote of thanks to the organisers and the
participants and the dignitaries on the and off the dais. 
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[Goanet] Places to eat in Goa...

2010-02-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
JustDial.com has this listing of eating places in Goa. Tell me if you
find it useful or comprehensive:
http://eatout.justdial.com/eatout/search_eatout_cwoa.php?srch=truecity=Goa
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[Goanet] Traffic jams...

2010-02-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
Were this year's traffic jams in Panjim for Carnival far worse than in
earlier years? Did the others who came for the parade feel likewise
(or was it only me)? If so, was there some foul-up in planning the
route? The riverfront road had been divided in two, with the floats on
the riverside and traffic permitted in the other lane. In theory, a
good idea... till everything got clogged, and it took an hour or more
to traverse two kms!

Looking forward to other comments... I could be wrong! FN
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[Goanet] Beth El in Margao....

2010-02-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
Precuations must be taken to safe guard this House of Worship, which is in
Shirvodem Margao close to significant Muslim population and Mosque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel

Terror attack near Jewish prayer house:-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/9-confirmed-dead-45-injured-in-blast-at-Pune-bakery/articleshow/5569873.cms

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[Goanet] Another Goebbelsian lie nailed

2010-02-13 Thread Tony de Sa
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:09:45 +0530
From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com

1. I never lived in Goa during Portuguese times except for a brief visit
when I was a toto.

Mario responds:

OK.  I stand corrected.  The point is that you have somehow developed an
unhealthy respect for playing second fiddle and walking in the white man's
shadow, based on your comments here on Goanet.
++
Aha, the lie has been admitted. Forgot the statement made earlier by me? I
am the man who caught the thief. You are trying to catch the man who caught
the thief The second part is merely your perception. For your information,
my relations have been imprisoned in Aguada by the Portuguese and also been
hounded out of Goa for their association with Goa's freedom movement. In
1962. Now your typical response will be doubt asking me to produce evidence
or say that I am name dropping. After all, Goebbels too was an artful
dodger.
-
Mario responds:

Hai, Ram! as they would say where I grew up!  Talk about wilful ignorance.
 This guy is now pretending to not know what is going on in Carmona.

The request by Arwin was not that you go to Carmona to hang out on the beach
but to confront the Sarpanch from behind Wendell's skir.., ...er, trousers.
++
I am more concerned about my own priorities. Why should I jump when you or
any one else asks me to jump? And incidentally, when are you going to
Carmona since you are so keen about it? Don't dither. Say what you have done
for Goa.
Alluding to Wendell's sexual persuasion when it is NOT under discussion and
is HIS PERSONAL AND PRIVATE AFFAIR shows what a low and mean character you
are - a person who will tell lies or go to any lengths to try and win an
argument.

Mario responds:
The fact is that you joined Samir in attacking foren NRGs for no rhyme or
reason and declaring they were essentially interlopers and that we and only
we - referring to RGs - could solve the problems in Goa.  Then, after being
chastised by Selma and Vivian you began to pretend that you were on the same
side as them.
+
Get your facts together. Jose Colaco, the good doctor,  wrote what was meant
to be  a flippant post under the subject line from One NRG to Another: an
open letter (12/1/2010) to counter which I wrote the post From one RG to
another That I  ganged up with Samir is another of your famous lies of
repeated. Selma and Vivian are fine people whom I have met and whot are not
in the habit of telling lies and have done a lot more for Goa than you will
ever dream of. You were joined by your friend and admirer I Nunes in an
onslaught against me. That Samir seems to have a similar view of your ilk
shows that my argument has support from another quarter too.

Mario responds:
First of all, I am not a Republican as alleged by Pinocchio.  Secondly, we
are seeing the last resort of a malcread caught in a web of falsehoods of
his own making: start hurling what he thinks are insults.

In the meantime, after stating that we and only we, i.e. RGs can solve
Goa's problems, he cannot even respond to Arwin's request go to Carmona to
confront the Sarpanch, whereas he can go there to enjoy the beach.
+
There you go again: You are the guy CAUGHT BY ME in a web of false hoods.
Also one generally abuses others in an argument when one is losing it. Your
use of the word malcread (malcreada?) proves it. Regarding Carmona, read my
previous response in this post and save me the trouble of cutting and
pasting the same reply every time you bring it up. What are you trying to
do? Bore the readers by feeding the same ole crap day in and day out?

Have a nice day. What would I do without posters like you on Goanet to help
me tide the tedium vitae?
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[Goanet] Climate chang: Consequences

2010-02-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
If you're on the climate sceptics side, you have to have really good
evidence for your case because if you're wrong then the consequences for all
of us and all our children and whoever comes after is hugely influenced.

I don't see that evidence, I see lots of assertion but it's not backed up.
It's very dangerous and like playing Russian roulette with the planet.


Read all about it @
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7221110/Climate-change-sceptics-playing-Russian-roulette-with-planet.html


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[Goanet] Goa Carnival Floats, Panjim - a video Clip

2010-02-13 Thread JoeGoaUk
Goa Carnival Floats, Panjim
 
a video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi-75L-UVvc

 
 
 
pics were sent earlier or
see here
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-February/189897.html
 


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Re: [Goanet] Another Goebbelsian lie nailed

2010-02-13 Thread J. Colaco jc
Tony de Sa wrote to Mario Goveia: For your information, my relations
HAVE BEEN imprisoned in Aguada by the Portuguese and also been hounded
out of Goa for their association with Goa's freedom movement. In 1962.

COMMENT:

1: From the above it appears that the Portuguese political prisoners
are still incarcerated (by the Portuguese) at the Aguada jail.

2: I know somebody somewhere will try explain what this sentence
(possibly a GRG sentence) 'In 1962.' means.

3: Unless of course, Tony was trying to say that some of his relations
(relatives) WERE imprisoned in Aguada by the Portuguese while others
WERE hounded out of Goa for their association with Goa's freedom
movement in 1962.

4: The above statement would give extra credit to the same Portuguese
who built the bridge in Daman in the 1980s.

Disclaimer: Not every body in the Goa's freedom movement was a
freedom fighter. Nor was every body who was imprisoned in Aguada by
the Portuguese or by the Indian authorities.

jusht only me

jc


[Goanet] AISI: Panjim Carnival 2010 -Floats

2010-02-13 Thread JoeGoaUk
Panjim Carnival 2010 -Floats
As usual the parade started  4pm instead of 3pm.
Traditionally, Goan Traditional brass band was leading the 
King Momo’s entourage but this year it was different – 
a band group by foreigners (Swiss?).
The music they played was not suited for this traditional events.
 
see in the bgening of this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi-75L-UVvc

Whatever, it is, we did not like it to see them leading the Panjim 
Parade.
It’s all sounding off. Their music did not suit our tradition.
I wish  Goa Tourism and CCP together  do something to improve 
some of the chronic or regular problems faced by the visitors of  
the annual parade so that every one goes back with good and 
lasting memories.
- Lakhs of Rupees spent to erect  barricades both side of the road/lane 
but people seen moving up and down inside the barricade/road 
thus denying clear view to many people who come to watch from 
far and wide (including tourists).
Plenty of Police seen inside the barricade but they were of no use.
- Perhaps, they erect steps/gallery type sitting arrangement
 (as in circuses) as there is plenty room available on either side 
of the road.
- No one should be allowed to roam about inside the barricade, 
not even the cameramen .
They should be allotted special space or a part of the parade street.
Everybody is cameraman now, even a mobile phone owner.
- Many kids seen engaged in the parade. Kids as young as 5.
Imagine, what they must have gone through. They must have come 
here at lest at 2pm 
and were here beyond 8pm. Some parent also seen closely guarding
 their kids/walking them inside the  barricade thus obstructing clear view 
of the spectators. If parents were needed closer to their kids then
 they should not have been here first place.
NGOs involving child protection should take note of this 
regular phenomenon in the Float parade.
Again, many youngsters (below 18) seen dancing throughout the street.  
Strict age restrictions should be in place for this type of events which 
ends up late in 
the night (which may also need late evening rehearsals prior to 
the event)
- When they knew there were about 100 floats (small and big), 
the whole event should have started as early as 2pm. 
Whole parade street (D B Road) is about 1.5 kms long 
(From New Pato Bridge to Kala Academy). It takes up to one hour
 to cover the distance.
There were upto 15 minutes gapes in between the floats, 
The last one which may have began say 7.30 has arrive at Kala 
Acadmy at 8.15. 
Some of the good floats seen between 6.45pm till 8pm where due
 to poor visibility
after sunset, people were not able to enjoyed them all. 
The streets were not lit for this purpose/occasion.
It also appears that importance is given only to the first part 
of the parade street where 
VIP, VVIP, Invited guests lounges or viewing galleries erected.
-  Foreigners should be here to watch the parade and not to 
participate.
Almost all floats had some foreigners, some appeared to have 
joined in midway.
It can affect our tradition, our traditional carnival I mean.





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[Goanet] Restaurant bomb kills nine in India

2010-02-13 Thread Ruby Goes
http://www.smh.com.au/world/restaurant-bomb-kills-nine-in-india-20100214-nyw
p.html

Hi Goanetters,
Take care!
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[Goanet] Carnival in Goa

2010-02-13 Thread Antonio Menezes
''' O Carnaval  e uma porcaria dos mestisos de Goa.
So why does the Govt of Goa encourage it ?
Simple. Tourists! Tourists! Tourists! Paise! Paise! Paise!


[Goanet] Goa news for February 14, 2010

2010-02-13 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Blast in Pune: Red alert in Goa, borders with Maharashtra
sealed - Times of India
akery-is-Pune-s-Cafe-Leopold/579507usg=AFQjCNHLK2KOGe09twZjBkQJR2vETBvheQGerman
Bakery is Pune's Cafe Leopold
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Blast-in-Pune-Red-alert-in-Goa-borders-with-Maharashtra-sealed/articleshow/5570818.cmsusg=AFQjCNEF_j2Wa89cxSBBzOh58BcQJoE88g

*** 21 Shiv Sainiks held for protests against 'MNIK' in Goa -
Times of India
Gy4PGNgXFE57bHZnfluoQCan the buzz bail out My Name is Khan?
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://movies.indiatimes.com/news-gossip/news/21-Shiv-Sainiks-held-for-protests-against-MNIK-in-Goa/articleshow/5564494.cmsusg=AFQjCNHrBVTM8f3B6MEtYdPabqYrdLs8qw

*** Goa carnival begins with colours - All India Radio
omo-leads-goa-carnival-to-colourful-start_100319588.htmlusg=AFQjCNFvZYeCTaLds-JnJ7dFWTU4wQqZggKing
Momo leads Goa carnival to colourful start
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.newsonair.com/news.asp?cat=stateid=ST1553usg=AFQjCNEZQnrBA52NsW6DYDR7N_8oxiNRYQ

*** Subbaiah Pillai Trophy: Kerala clinch 55-run win - Express
Buzz
ime off-spinner S Suresh Kumar harmonised Tamil Nadu's
seven-wicket canter over Goa in the KS Subbaiah Pillai Trophy at
the India Cements ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.expressbuzz.com/cricket/story.aspx?Title=Subbaiah+Pillai+Trophy:+Kerala+clinch+55-run+winartid=mxU7lovdkno=SectionID=p/1TpZY0BFI=MainSectionID=p/1TpZY0BFI=SEO=S+Suresh+Kumar,+KS+Subbaiah+Pillai+Trophy,+GnaneswSectionName=h4nHCgRcMFQmsUgz08kxUw==usg=AFQjCNHN4dtaPizulNnWHdY48PDhFwC7Jg

*** One seriously injured in brawl with Russian businessman in
Goa - Daily News  Analysis
ear-old man was seriously injured after he was allegedly
attacked by a Russian businessman at Morjim village in Goa,
police said. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_one-seriously-injured-in-brawl-with-russian-businessman-in-goa_1346785usg=AFQjCNE3J4eTn41qUwJK7EKmhdl9NVFvgQ

*** Kedi: Movie Review - Times of India
eview-130210.htmlusg=AFQjCNG_BU23Nk8NX98Bsqn1A6mOQi8RfAKedi
Review
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://movies.indiatimes.com/reviews/regional/telugu/Kedi-Movie-Review/articleshow/5568647.cmsusg=AFQjCNE84huJMBcb8sHHGAHsUFKmPz1Vbw

*** Sesa Goa Sees Next Fiscal Year Iron Ore Sales Rising
20%-25%-Executive - FOXBusiness
Dow Jones)- Sesa Goa Ltd. (500295.BY), India's largest private
exporter of iron ore, expects its iron ore sales to ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/industrials/sesa-goa-sees-fiscal-year-iron-ore-sales-rising---executive/usg=AFQjCNG_qHNf4cIVQ2BpU04q9Vf4HqL5uA

*** Mysterious blasts in S Goa spark speculation - Times of
India
lasts-rattle-Canacona/33441.htmlusg=AFQjCNGcBnutFHHYCNX92_7SZ4b4dI6MGAMystery
blasts rattle Canacona
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Mysterious-blasts-in-S-Goa-spark-speculation/articleshow/5563101.cmsusg=AFQjCNHGQUyGwZkd-wMHW_m2oVuvnb__1g

*** Goa jail software grabs Centre's attention - Times of India
uilt, prize-winning prison software PRISMS, the central
government has in principle decided to implement it in prisons
...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-jail-software-grabs-Centres-attention/articleshow/5566838.cmsusg=AFQjCNEX3fKL4F3Rp3eZ5v-hOFMExt_ZTA

*** Goa on high alert - Herald Publications
rald PublicationsOld Goa: Chief Minister Digambar Kamat on
Saturday night assured that all security measures were in
operation as part of the high alert notice in the State, ...a
class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/Goa-on-high-alert/33491.htmlusg=AFQjCNGYad-Gja-cTJRQC_bMfKR5V1jEkA


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[Goanet] Kerkar bags Sangharsh Puraskar

2010-02-13 Thread Goanet News Service

Kerkar bags Sangharsh Puraskar
TNN, 14 February 2010, 06:01am IST

PANAJI: The Muktangan Mitra Sangharsh Sanman Puraskar for the year 2010 
was awarded to environmentalist Rajendra Kerkar for his commitment 
towards environment and wildlife protection in Goa.


The ceremony, held at Nivara Vrudhashram auditorium, Pune, saw Kerkar 
receive the award at the hands of well-known scientist and botanist 
Anand Karve.


The award was instituted in memory of the late Dr Anita Avachat who 
worked with alcohol and drug addicts.


Dr Anand Nadkarni interviewed Kerkar on his mission to protect Goa's 
environment and wildlife.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Kerkar-bags-Sangharsh-Puraskar/articleshow/5571270.cms


[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Ditana Mogan Dinvchem

2010-02-13 Thread lino dourado
  Ditana Mogan Dinvchem 
 
Febrerachi chouda tarik.. Atvech mogache urben bhorun mogiamni sangatak 
sarchelo ek vhodd Valentine Dis. Hea disa niz mogiam, mogachi polltodd yexvoxit 
zavnche pasot, ho dis ghoddoun haddtolea Sant Valentine hachea upkaran astat. 
Valentine Disa khorim mogiam ek-mekak mogacheo bhetto (gifts) ditat. Goddie ti 
lhan vo vhodd akarachi zaum. Mogan dinvchi ani apurbayen svikar korchi asta. 
 
Bavis vorsanche pirayechim panvlam to martalo. Cheddvanchi ixttagott zhoddunk 
bhouch fattim aslo. Mog khorpachi taka xir nasli? Oxem kaim naslem. Cheddvachi 
ixttagott zoddop mhonnchem, sabsube bolsak khator marun bankintlo account 
sokoil haddop, hem chukichem oxem taka diso. Imtto? Na re baba. Mogan aslole, 
tache sangati ixttanchi doxea pollevn, taka; kazara adim mog korchelo hem mat 
sucho naslem. Tache ixtt apnnalea mogiak khuxi dovorunk gorjeviret duddvancho 
ibadd kortale. Ani duddvanchi hunvar unno zatoch lohu-lohu koslem-na-koslem 
nibam divn tim cheddvam pois zatalim. Tannem aplea ixtancho ho sogllo mogacho 
gullmell polloilean, cheddvanchi dosti korop ek papuch to somzotalo
 
Eka disa Moddganvchea Kadamba prasar, Ponnje vochpi bosin to boslolo astona 
mhukavelea darantlean ek sundor choli bosint choddli. Bosin aslole sogut 
pasinger tichea sobit rupak pollevn xarxarit zale.. Tornne choleamni, aplea 
sorxim bazuchea sitar bostoli kay mhunn anvdde givle. Bhitor sorloli sundori, 
soroll cholun Ponnje vochpi amche ixttaxim vochun taka tenkun bosli. To khubuch 
bhivkuto (nervous) zalo. Tachea rogt-xirantlem rogot churchurit danvunk laglem. 
Puttputtit tache kallzache naddi dhoddhodde bhair aikunk yetale kay diso. 
Itlean konn eklo time-pass, time pass mosbi biknna-chonne ghevn, bosint bobalit 
amchea ixtta sorxim pavlo teddna, tannem ek pakitt vikott ghetlem. 
 
“Chodduch mosbi-biknna khailear pintachem zata oxem kitem tori mhaka mhoji 
xamaim sangttali”. Khubuch tempaveli vollok aslolea porim tachea bazuk bosloli 
choli tachea islean tondd korun uloili ani tonddar modur hanso haddun (ti anink 
sundor disonk lagli) fuddem mhonnlem. “Mhoje nanv Agnes ani tujem?”
On-vollki cheddvan okosmat nanv vicharop mhonllear tika novi ixttagott 
zoddcheli avodd asa mhunn amchea ixttan tichem mon soroll vollkilem. Cheddvam 
koddsun pois ravpi ixttachi zap borich gageli
“Mhojem nanv Sebas---tiao, na-na Sebastian, oi-oi Seby” (mogache vachpeano: 
atam tumkam gomlem amchea ixttachem nanv)
“Seby mhonlear upkarta?”  
“Oi”
“Polle Mister Seby. Tum somzochi hanv ek chalu choli”
“Toxem hanvem mhonnokuch na”.
“Tem zanna hanv. Tuka sangpachem mhonlear; mon’xancho sobhav, chal-rit, vruti 
(attitude) ani vagnnuke vixim Kolejin mhojem xikop kortam ani tatuntlo ho ek 
mhozo prokolp (project). Jednam bosin bhitor sorlim tea vellar hanvem ekuch, 
bosbhor nodor marli teddna, bosin aslole modim tunch ek mhaka xant ani borea 
sobhavacho monis mhoje nodrek zollkolo. Dusrem mhonnlear hanv telepathic 
xikxonn-ui kortam. Mhonnchem….”
“Oi! Dusrea mon’xachea monantlem vollkuchem”
“Wow! Mhaka dista mhozo aicho prokolp, dusream vixim barikxann ghenvchi xembor 
tok’ke yexvont. Ek sang. Tujem nanv Sebastiao mhunn gagelea avazar tunvem mhaka 
sanglam. Hanv somzotam tuzo zolm Janerachea 20ver  zalolo” 
“What?”
“Hey boy! Itlo ojaplo?”
“Khorench?”
“Adlo amcho lok, te-te tarkevelea Sant-Bhogt-Santinn ani Saibinnichim zolm 
tarkevelim nanvam astat tinch apnnalea bhurgeank dovortalo. Ani zannaim?”
“Sanglea viret koxem kolltolem?”
“Ani dekhunuch mhojem nanv Agnes”
“Kharan?”
“Janerache 21ver mhozo zolm. Tea disa St. Agnes-achi porob”
“Mhonntokoch, amche modim ekuch disachi forok”
“Ek vichar kelear ragar zavchi?”
“Vichar”
“Tuji pirai?”
“Bavis”
“Mhaka eknis. Ami tin vorsam pois punn zolm tarik lagim”, ani khubuch gozali 
korit tim Ponnje prasar pavlim. Ek-mekak aple mobile fonache number dile ani 
doxim zalim. Punn tika adeus korchea vellar amche ixtt Seby-chea kallzakodden  
kitem tori addkolem. 
 
“Hai Agnes”
“Hai Seby. Bosintle bhette uprant, poilech pavtti tuka mhoji yad zali?”
“Yad sodanch yeta. Punn tuka fon korun vell unno poddtta. Aiz Aitar. Chintlem, 
fuddlea Aitarak, mhonnchem; Febrerachi 14da tarik. Valentine”
“Kaim khas?”
“Bosintli ixttagott vaddounchi dislem. To dis tujean muktponnim mhojea vangdda 
sarunk zatlem?”
“Toyar” 
 
Sebychea khuxalkayek xim’ mer nasli. Aiz tachea kallzan atvech torecho mogacho 
somdir upraslolo. Kiteak, aiz Febrerachi chovdda tarik asli. Tachea monantlem 
thonddantlean haddun mhaka tuzo mog zala oxem tika sangchem aslem. Torekvar 
prokarachim sopnna varear uboit bosintlean Moddganvche Kadambha prasar pavlo. 
Begbegim bazaran vochun ek thambdde rongacho gulab vikot ghetlo. Ani justuch 
sanglolea vellar ti, Hotel Kamat-axim bhettli. Gulab tichea hatant divn tannem 
tika wish kelo.
 
Seby-cho poilo Valentine Dis sarki vollok-pallok naslole cheddva sangata. Tika, 
poilea Valentine mogachi bhett (gift) divn dislem. Tannem, tichi avodd 
vicharli. Ti sorbhonvttim 

[Goanet] Samir Kelekar and his problem with Rajan's citizenship

2010-02-13 Thread Samir Kelekar
Anill Desai writes:
1) The attack on NRGs and Rajan was in response to Rajan's attack
on Oscar which appeared in Herald.
Response: This shows that Oscar Rebello, you and your father have one common
link, Digambar Kamat. Since Oscar played Footsie with him, since you are
hoping to get sops from him and since your father heads a unique NGO that
has the head of goa government as one of the officebearers and had has
received hundreds of thousands of rupees from a debt ridden government, it
is not surprising that you have to show solidarity with Oscar.
 
Let me clear this point. I am going to Digambar Kamat as a CM of a state that I
belong to and I care about. I am spending my hard earned money to make several
trips to Goa so that I can create jobs in Goa, certainly a much better endeavour
than throwing some pounds as charity and giving one's services to a foreign 
country.
Certainly, the job that I am doing or trying to do is much more challenging and
difficult
than
doing a mere job in the UK. Besides, in India it is very tough to make ends by
itself. I am working in such circumstances. I dont want complaints
by someone who doesnt work in my country
and all he does is throws some crumbs at Goa. What Goa needs is valuable time
of people, and I am spending it. NRGs can help in the work that I am doing by
giving business to companies in Goa. If you can help in that, let us work 
together.
Otherwise, if you cant, at least dont throw spanners in the work.
The dire need for Goa right now is jobs in  a sustainable area.
 
 
MARG spends government money for a noble purpose, and not for personal
luxuries of my father. We are both working in our country where we are not 
thrown
big money at for rendering our services unlike you. I have conscicously decided 
to
work in my country unlike you, even when I have an opportunity to work abroad.
 
Digambar Kamat as the CM is the common link for all Goan citizens.
 


2) My point was that Rajan being a US citizen has been an opportunist
person and now he wants to interfere in Goan politics. I stand
by the fact that as a US citizen he has no political rights in
India and needs to change his citizenship. Obvioulsy, none of
the NRGs even talked about the latter point, probably because
opportunists dont consider that important. I indeed even went
to the extent saying that Rajan would be a hero if he
changed back
his citizenship and plunged into fixing Goa. How about discussing
this aspect of it? Can one for instance have a Portuguese citizenship
and get politically involved in Goa ?

Response: I did respond to this point. Probably it was difficult for you to
understand. I gave you my own example, which I will repeat: I hold Indian
citizenship. I do not have voting rights in India. However, I do have
political rights in India. I do have voting right for council, parliamentary
and European elections in the UK. The point is: you should not confuse
voting rights with political rights.
Rajan, like me pays taxes in India, has property in goa and has OCI. This
does give him political rights even if he is not allowed to vote because of
vagaries of rules of Indian government. Manmohan singh has publicly promised
to change this before 2014.
 
You are confusing between an Indian citizen NRI and a foreign citizen.

It is therefore pointless for you to divert attention from the sterling work
that Rajan has done with a documentary that he produced without any
government grant and also his successful PIL.
 
I am not diverting attention from here, but I stand by my point that a US
citizen, Rajan has not political rights.


3) The point about the Anil Desai conversation which again Jose
harps on again and again. The conversation is there in the archives
for anyone to say. Anil attacked my father's credentials and
he was promptly responded to.

Response: I do not know your father and I have not attacked your father's
credentials. I did raise the point about MARG. You accepted that  it has
just appointed the Chief Minister of goa government as an office bearer.
This makes MARG a unique NGO. You also accepted that this NGO has received
hundreds of thousands of rupees from goa government. Goa has one of the
highest mortality from road traffic accidents and these figures have largely
remained high. So, it would be nice to know what credible change this
organisation has brought to road safety in goa. When I asked about grants,
you pointed me to a website that gives very little info on expenses. So,
your response left a lot to be desired.

I did not point to any website; I asked you to mail to my father 
m...@sancharnet.in.
You dont seem to be reading my posts well. As to results,
1) the accident numbers have decreased.
2) It is not an easy process and a very tough challenge. Someone has to do the
hard work. You are not doing it,my father is doing single handedly at such ripe 
age.
Digambar Kamat has been appointed because my father is now past 80 and he
wants the work to continue. If you come and are 

[Goanet] Blinkers finally off?

2010-02-13 Thread Bernado Colaco
A few days ago one lesser known writer who came from north america with guns 
blazing against Portuguese presence in Goa by using all sorts of abusive 
adjectives  has finally taken off his blinkers by writing an article (Posted on 
GN) about the city of Pangim (daily photographed by JoeUK).

After two years in Goa, this bharati sychopant has probably learnt his lesson 
that the Republic imposed upon Goans since 61 does not provide any governance 
to the inhabitants of the region. Maybe the egg chops manufactured by Xri  
Alvaro Pereira may have done good for his brains.

I  suggest that our nationalist bhau instead of visiting cafe Porkash should 
cross the road and get some lessons from Xri Pereira at Farm Products as well.

BC






[Goanet] Freedom Fighters in Goa

2010-02-13 Thread Rajesh Dessai
Today I read a post by Tony De Sa about his relations being freedom
fighters imprisoned at the Aguada Jail.  Can Tony please tell me the
names of his relatives who were in the jail at that time?  I would
like to know and catch up with my fellow inmates if they are still
around.

I have been a prisoner in that jail from 1958 till the liberation of
Goa.  I know most of the prisoners who were there in jail with me, and
none of us were 'freedom fighters'  Later on I heard that some  of the
chalu prisoners were claiming to be freedom fighters, and I have
always been wondering how that could be possible.  The prisoners that
I remember were in jail for real crimes, some small, some big.  It was
our lucky day to be released from jail by the India govt.  I had 3
more years to go.  Later, these chalu fellows applied for ff pension.
some got tamrapatras.  And I just laugh.

I was young at that time, and made many mistakes in my life.  And I
paid a big price for it, and learned from my mistakes. I am not proud
of my youth, and after my release from jail I moved to Sawantwadi as
my family were not happy with me. Now I am retired and am back in Goa.
 It has changed.

Raj

Rajesh Dessai


Re: [Goanet] Blinkers finally off?

2010-02-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
Dear 'Bharati' Colaco, What have you got against Cafe Prakash? Or, are
some goenkars more goenkars than other goenkars :-) FN

PS: Given our contemporary lifestyles, egg-chops can only help
heighten cholesterol levels, nothing much else.

On 14 February 2010 11:34, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 After two years in Goa, this bharati sychopant has probably learnt
 his lesson that the Republic imposed upon Goans since 61 does not
 provide any governance to the inhabitants of the region. Maybe the
 egg chops manufactured by Xri  Alvaro Pereira may have done good
 for his brains.

 I  suggest that our nationalist bhau instead of visiting cafe Porkash
 should cross the road and get some lessons from Xri Pereira at
 Farm Products as well.

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[Goanet] INDIA’S PULP FICTION KING

2010-02-13 Thread Venantius J Pinto
In Tehelka, Culture and Society

Do You Know This Man? *270 NOVELS. 2.5 CRORE COPIES SOLD.
NOW ENGLISH READERS CAN FINALLY MEET *Surinder Mohan Pathak,*INDIA’S PULP
FICTION KING, SAYS *NISHA SUSAN
Of course I want to be respectable. People write one book in English and are
treated like gods. No one knows me. The people who read me, read me
secretly. After so many years, of course my heart craves recognition,” says
Pathak.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp?filename=hub200210do_you.asp

+++
venantius j pinto


Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters in Goa

2010-02-13 Thread floriano

That a Man [ which we normally say 'Ata Man' ]

Yes dear Rajesh. You are that man who did not claim the FF's title when 
released from Jail in 1961.
And what you say is correct. There were hardly any freedom fighters in jail 
then but hard core as well as petty criminals. I believe Dayanand Bandodkar 
was one of them too. But his crime( as I am told) was that the Portuguese 
thought he was suspected to have been involved in harbouring the cross 
border satyagrahis which has blown off some mining machinery at that time. 
And Bandodkar was a mine owner himself.  And I am also told that DB also 
claimed the FF's status initially but withdrew from the same on good advice.


By any chance was DB with you? It is believed that DB wrote a clandestine 
letter to the Commandant of the Jail ratting on the satyagrahis (naming 
them) so that he could be in good books with the jailors and be released. As 
far as I know, this is authentic information. By any chance have you heard 
of it while in Jail??


We appreciate your strainght-forwardness. We all get involved in petty 
crimes sometime or the other.Even a well deserved  'punching of some idiot's 
nose and bloodying it'  is a crime now a days. The punishment then ( during 
the Portuguese regime) was hard and savage. Today, it is Amul Maska ( if one 
has the right connections or the right number of currency bills in the 
pocket) and that is why we have so many crimes and so many criminal to the 
extent that our very own legislators in the Legislative Assemblies and in 
our august Parliament are hard core criminals. Can any thing more be said on 
this??



Welcome to Goa. We need people like you now, before all is lost forever.

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org


GOA does not only need HONEST persons to contest elections, and,
Goa does not only need HONEST  voters to elect honest persons.
But GOA mainly needs an 'HONEST SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'.
Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be honest  or to QUIT.
Such HONEST SYSTEM is knocking at GOA's portals.
A 'PRECIOUS GIFT' to GOA by committed GOANS.
A  'GIFT HORSE'  that must not be looked in the mouth.

PPS=PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY
Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness 
tomorrow.





- Original Message - 
From: Rajesh Dessai goy...@gmail.com

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters in Goa



Today I read a post by Tony De Sa about his relations being freedom
fighters imprisoned at the Aguada Jail.  Can Tony please tell me the
names of his relatives who were in the jail at that time?  I would
like to know and catch up with my fellow inmates if they are still
around.

I have been a prisoner in that jail from 1958 till the liberation of
Goa.  I know most of the prisoners who were there in jail with me, and
none of us were 'freedom fighters'  Later on I heard that some  of the
chalu prisoners were claiming to be freedom fighters, and I have
always been wondering how that could be possible.  The prisoners that
I remember were in jail for real crimes, some small, some big.  It was
our lucky day to be released from jail by the India govt.  I had 3
more years to go.  Later, these chalu fellows applied for ff pension.
some got tamrapatras.  And I just laugh.

I was young at that time, and made many mistakes in my life.  And I
paid a big price for it, and learned from my mistakes. I am not proud
of my youth, and after my release from jail I moved to Sawantwadi as
my family were not happy with me. Now I am retired and am back in Goa.
It has changed.

Raj

Rajesh Dessai