Re: [Goanet] Responsible for Terrorism

[Santosh Helekar]

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I too find it hard to understand the line of reasoning that Arwin has started, 
and what the analogy between Maoists and Goans is, and why he thinks that India 
is a "pseudo-secular" country from that. The question that he needs to answer 
is simple.

Does any cause justify aggressive violence involving murder of hundreds of
people each year, which the Maoists are doing?

Nearly 4000 people have been killed as a consequence of Maoist violence in 
India since 2005.

Cheers,

Santosh


--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Arwin Mesquita  wrote:
> 
> Mario
> 
> (1) I have got feed back from people on the ground who are
> in Goa and
> fighting for the cause; whatever their feed back I will
> respect it;  and not
> yours I am afraid i.e. a person who gave on on Goa/India
> and unaware of
> ground realities. Perhaps you should spend some time in the
> Maoist areas.
> 
> (2) Sri Lankan Terrorism was based on completely another
> cause; stop
> comparing.
> 
> (3) India a "Pseudo Secular Democracy" in my viewt; hope
> that with
> education, awareness etc it could be a "Secular Democracy"
> in the Future
> 
> Arwin
> 


  

[Goanet] One link

[Frederick Noronha]

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[Goanet] Goenkars, Football World Cup cometh.....

[Gabe Menezes]

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entries i.e. two entries per team. Winners (two) take USD100 each and runner
up (two) USD 50 each.

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one team. Thank you in advance.

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[Goanet] Borges-bab, "picture speaks thousand words!"

[dalgado Konkn. Akd.]

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Bhou manestamno,

Manadik Sebastian Borges babachim 'net'-avelim thoddim boroupam 'sotachench
zoit zaum' mhunn somptat. Fattlea mhoineant, mhonnche Marsache 27ver,  Tony
Martin-babak zababachem boroup kortana eke kodden "We have had two Romi
Konknni 'sammelons' to date.  But in neither of them was there any
exhibition of Konkani books" oxem te mhonntat. Tanchem tem boroup
soglleanche mahite khatir sokol dilam, ani te sotachea nanvan fottichem
'zoit' korunk bhonvtat tem dakounk, heach vorsantlea Fevrerachea mhoineant
zalolea ani Dalgado Konknni Akademin ghoddun haddlolea Dusrea Konknni Romi
Lipi Sahitya ani Sonvskruti nimitan kelolea 'Book Exhibition'-acho puravo
mhunn ami ek fottu dila.Tumchea soit, Borges-baban-ui to dolle bhorun
polleunchoani fuddarak boroupam kortana, ghoddun gelole ghoddnne vixim
tannim  "dolle ason (Romi vixim) kurddo" zaina zaunk zotnay gheunchi.

Mog asum,*

Jose Salvador Fernandes
Sekretar,
Dalgado Konknni Akademi,
A-F6, Poilo Mallo, Campal Trade Centre,
Militari Hospitala Fattlean,
Campal, Ponnji, Gõy*

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From: jose fernandes 
Date: Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:27 AM
Subject: Fwd: [Goanet] wake up Mr Borges
To: dkakad...@gmail.com




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From: Sebastian Borges 
Date: Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: [Goanet] wake up Mr Borges
To: GoaNet fred 
Cc: Anthony M Barreto 


Dear Mr Tony Martin,
We sometimes scratch everywhere except at the spot which itches.  Your post
reminds me of this.  If it were not for 'i read your romi konkni bit' I
would be left wondering whether it is some other Borges you are addressing.
My post dealt with the advisability or otherwise of doing away with the term
"Romi Konknni" and replacing it with "Romi lipyent boroiloli Konknni bhas"
every time we are referring to "Konkani language written in Roman script."
And I was reacting to an article by Tomazinho Cardozo in Vavraddeancho Ixtt,
the relevant parts of which were quoted in translation as well as in
original. But your post has absolutely no connection with that issue.
However, I shall deal with your points to the best of my ability.
1. You begin by saying that you don't know me.  In fact, in my opinion, this
is the best situation.  When we personally know the person, we tend to
concentrate on that PERSON and neglect the ISSUE being discussed.
2. I "coukd be a good cow for?some pundaliks and udays to milk freely to
their advantage."  I have no objection if some tom, dick, harry, pundalik,
uday or whoever uses my matter for his / her advantage.  What I write is the
truth as I know it personally or have acquired from elsewhere, the sources
also being cited.  Therefore, why should I hide the truth just because some
'wrong' persons might use it to their advantage?  On the contrary, it would
be dishonest to hide the truth, on this specious premise!  If you find that
what I state as facts are not true, you are welcome to refute them with
necessary evidence.  Or, if the facts are correct and my inference thereon
is illogical, you are welcome to point that out as well; I shall appreciate
your reactions as that will help edify me.
3.  "Gulf money and GPA".  I do not know anything about any Gulf money and I
have not even heard of anyone bearing the initials GPA.  However, if you
feel that I might have some info on these, please be specific.
4.  What gave you the impression that I am giving or denying awards / grants
to writers?  Please be specific.
5.  "Do you know one Reginald Fernandes??"  I do not know any living person
with this name.  However, I know that there WAS a Konkani novelist bearing
this name.  Perhaps you mean that he should have received a Sahitya Akademi
(SA) Award.  May be you are right.  However, we remember such people only
after they have left this world.  Are there no living worthies?  Why don't
their names get the required exposure?  Why can we not use these eminent
writers as resource persons in workshops for budding writers?  Jess
Fernandes has received the Award recently.  Now tell me.  Do you remember
that Jess was ever used as a resource person in any of the workshops
organized by Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA)?  Please note that he got the
award only after he published his work in Devanagari.  As early as September
2004, I had suggested that we should transliterate and publish in Devanagari
such works of LIVING writers which meet SA standards.  I had
 suggested that DKA should select such work, I had volunteered to do the
transliteration and DKA could arrange for the publication, if the author was
reluct

[Goanet] Suggest a Slogan for the Goan Shutterbugs Contest

[Goan Shutterbugs]

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*Goan Shutterbugs'
Suggest a Slogan Contest*

Nike slogan is *“Just do it”*, Kolkata Knight Riders have  “Korbo, Lorbo,
Jeetbo Re” and the Government's * “Do not cheat, we hate competition”. *

Now how about suggesting a nice slogan for the Goan Shutterbugs too.

Put on you thinking cap and email us your slogan or use the  contest link on
Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=116694581678908&ref=nf

If it is the one we select, expect a great reward.

So hurry, get cracking!!!

[Goanet] Re. Responsible for Terrorism

[Arwin Mesquita]

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Mario

(1) I have got feed back from people on the ground who are in Goa and
fighting for the cause; whatever their feed back I will respect it;  and not
yours I am afraid i.e. a person who gave on on Goa/India and unaware of
ground realities. Perhaps you should spend some time in the Maoist areas.

(2) Sri Lankan Terrorism was based on completely another cause; stop
comparing.

(3) India a "Pseudo Secular Democracy" in my viewt; hope that with
education, awareness etc it could be a "Secular Democracy" in the Future

Arwin

Re: Responsible for Terrorism
Posted by: "mgov...@sbcglobal.net" mgov...@sbcglobal.net
mgov...@sbcglobal.net
Thu Apr 8, 2010 8:31 am (PDT)


Arwin,

When armed groups in a secular democracy are willing to wantonly kill people
in order to get their political way, as the Maoists have been doing for
decades now, the first order of business is to stop them, by force if
necessary. Even the home of Mao has given up trying to get their way by
force and have adopted their own form of economic capitalism raising the
living standards of millions of Chinese.

Look at how peaceful Sri Lanka is now that the Tamil Tigers have been
exterminated by force.

There is no Goan analogy to the Maoists. The corruption in Goa has been
unintentionally tolerated by Goans themselves by electing and re-electing
corrupt politicians.

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Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/

[Goanet] the menace of uncontrolled mining in Goa

[Carmen Miranda]

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Dear goanetters

 Sign the Petition requesting The Hon’ble Minister of State for Environment
and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further
environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa

 http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php
The deadline to sign the petition above is approaching - mid April .
I am surprised that so many of you who regularly read and write in this
forum, and who are concerned about Goa's environment, the destruction of Goa
and so on,  have not yet given your support to our efforts to control mining
in Goa. It just takes a minute of your time, and it is such an important
issue for Goa and Goans! Perhaps the attached photo of one of the many mines
in Goa I recently visited,  will persuade you to sign! The destruction is
rapid and frightening!
Let's try and stop this menace in Goa!

We don't have this kind of opportunities very often , and so I urge you to
please give us your full support. This is one time when we stand a very good
chance of influencing policy in Goa. But we need to at least show that we
care by signing the petition. Every signature counts and is very important!

Carmen Miranda

[Goanet] Sitting Too Long Can Cause Rogue Blood Clots—And More!

[Con Menezes]

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Cause of blood clots.
Explained here
C
http://www.healthiertalk.com/sitting-too-long-can-cause-rogue-blood-clots-and-more-1606

[Goanet] Anjuna farm houses row:Farming Society dispels fears

[Domnic Fernandes]

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Anjuna farm houses row:Farming Society dispels fears


HERALD REPORTER

PANJIM, April 8 

The members of Panorama Harvests Co-operative Collective Farming
Society Ltd, Anjuna, which has been in the news for sometime now, have
asserted that there is nothing illegal in what they have been doing on
atop a hill in Anjuna and have expressed concern over the
“misinformation instigated by some”, regarding the alleged “farm
houses” atop a hill at Anjuna.


“We are a registered audited Farming Society formed under the bye-laws
of the Maharashtra Co-operative Society Act 1960, as applied to Goa,
(now according to the Goa Co-op Societies Act) and has its area of
operation extended to Anjuna, Arpora and Calangute villages. Our main
objectives are to promote farming and other related activity in the
area of operation”, said Nilesh Dabholkar, Chairman, The Panorama
Harvests Co-operative society.


Among the active members of the farming society are the original tenant
and 3 families of cashew pluckers, who even now are working on the
collection and extraction of cashew and cashew juice. They have been
doing this for nearly 50 years, he said denying that it was a cattle
grazing land. 


Over last few years, tens of thousands of trees have been planted and
nurtured including teak, mangium, cashew, herbs and other fruit trees.
The panchanama conducted by the Forest Department will bear this out,
Dabholkar said. Many of our members are actively concerned with
environmental issues, organic farming, and we have worked with many
NGOs towards this cause, he claimed.


Membership of the society, he said, is open to anyone who is genuinely
interested in these activities of agriculture, plantation, forestry,
floriculture, beekeeping and related matters in the area of operation. 


“As the Society has been granted permissions for agri-horti projects
only, we intend to comply with this faithfully and do not intend to ask
for any kind of conversion, which in any case, is not permitted by our
bye-laws”, the press note said.


Referring to the 39 plots, Dabholkar said all are committed to
plantations of various sorts. On about half the plots we may come up
with farmhouses for some of our own financing members and even these
plots would have forest and other plantations.


As regards No Development Zone as proposed in 2011 Regional Plan, the
initial NOC for internal subdivision for plots each of at least 4000m2
for agri-horticultural purposes, including road was given as far back
as 1994. The final NOC was given by TCP in 2006, after taking contours
into account. No hill cutting permission was necessary, Dabolkar
claimed.


Therefore, on a plot of say 4000m2, the coverage will not be of more
than 100 m2. “We have passed a resolution disallowing compound walls,
and giving free access for harvesting and collection purposes”.


A large portion of the land will be committed to nature walks through a
botanical garden, well suited for birdwatchers and hikers alike.
Included among the activities will be the continuation of cashew
collection and juice extraction which has been going on for several
years, nursery and landscaping services, forest plantation, etc, with
only organic farming methods. This year, more emphasis will be put on
the growing of exotic flowers. “While ruling out building of bore
wells, we hope to carry out water harvesting to increase the water
table for the whole area”.


http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Anjuna-farm-houses-row-Farming-Society-dispels-fears/35620.html



COMMENT: Most cashew trees from the area have been felled. 

There are concrete structures coming up in these plots, which are not farm 
houses but buildings! 



Moi-mogan,


Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna, Goa
Mob: 9420979201

  
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Re: [Goanet] Mao vs. Gandhi in Chhattisgarh

[floriano]

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Thank you Dr. Barad for this article.
I have gone through Arundhati Roy's Essay thoroughly and completely.

I too do not agree with the Maoist phyche.
But with all the power and money that the Indian state has at its disposal, 
why leave your own destitute tribal peoples to the mercies of the Maoists?
Take them under your wings, give them the best you can afford to give, 
change their perception of never getting anywhere, even with their 
posterity.
Show them the change that they will like and adopt - not force it down their 
throat.
And at the same time expose the Maoists for what they are. Weaning the 
people off the Maoist support-line is the trick, the intelligent state like 
India can use win this war.


But alas!, the intelligent state that is India wants to be in the pockets of 
Corporates such as Vedanta and Ors.


The people manning the labyrinths of  New Delhi have to grow up, indeed, 
to make the Maoists vanish in thin air.



Cheers
floriano
PPS to PPS
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org



- Original Message - 
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:28 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Mao vs. Gandhi in Chhattisgarh


Mao vs. Gandhi in Chhattisgarh
By SALIL TRIPATHI

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303720604575169614063173730.ht
ml

A naïve admiration for the Maoists is emblematic of the tendency in some
among the Indian intellectual class toward left-wing utopianism.

Maoist insurgents ambushed Indian security forces in the dense forest
region of Chhattisgarh state in central India on Tuesday, killing over 70
troops of the Central Reserve Police Force. Analysts are calling it  the
worst single-day loss in fighting domestic insurgencies.

[Goanet] WHEN THE CURTAIN RISES --- " tiatr " book release

[godfrey gonsalves]

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To commemorate the 118 anniversary of ' Tiatr Day "  17th April, 1892 the Tiatr 
Academy of Goa (TAG) has organised a day long get-together of all tiatr lovers  
on 17th April, 2010 from 10 a.m. to 4.00 p.m (lunch inclusive RSVP: +91 832 
2230738-39 tiatracad...@gmail.com on or before 13/04/2010)at their newly 
acquired premises Conference Hall at A-S-4, 2nd flr, Campal Trade Centre, Upp. 
Kala Akademy, Campal Panaji Goa . 


On this auspices ocassion a book "WHEN THE CURTAIN RISES " a well researched 
treatise on the nitty gritty of tiatr by Prof Rafael Fernandes of the Goa 
University will be released.  This will be followed by a short talk by Prof. 
Rafael Fernandes on the contents of his book for about 30 minutes. The detailed 
itinery is not available yet.

It may be recalled that on this day the first tiatr "Italian Bhurgo" was staged 
by the inovator of " Tiatr " by a native of Assagao Costancio Lucasinho Ribeiro 
(born 2.1.1863) at the Alfred Theatre Mumbai (then Bombay)

The pdf version of the book is now available with this writer and can be be 
freely emailed to anyone on request, for those desirous.

It is hoped that the last vestige of Goan culture "tiatr"  a self sustaining 
performing art which has excellent rapport with the audience even in this 
informative era will receive the attention it deserves from Goans world wide.

It is the dedication and sacrifices of the triumvurate of "tiatr" viz Lucacinho 
Ribeiro, (Assagao) Joao Agostinho Fernandes and his wife Maria Regina Fernandes 
(Modsai Margao ) that has provided a strong edifice to the success of tiatr 
even till this day.



GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES,
BORDA, MARGAO, 403 602, GOA. (INDIA)
+91 98221 58584 (24 HRS) 
gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in

Re: [Goanet] WikiLeaks

[Pandu Lampiao]

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I am a baker, not a journalist Irmao. Have to take care of my
lucrative chooris-pau business in Mississauga, the ultimate Goan
village...nicely manicured lawns, character-less houses, drugs are
legal and pork and other assorted meats are cheap, ya, the booze, the
booze.what more does a Goan want eh?

And who would one work for as a journalist in Goi? The newspaper
folks whose wealth is ill-gotten mines, the Mumboi slick- rag which is
more PR than newspaper, the other mining company rag who quietly host
the RSS (at their property in Zorint, Dabolim)  in Goa or the
newspaper from the Municipal garden whose business ethics like their
crooked figure? The journalism is without ethics (very friendly)  nor
commitment here, one would not know where to start? Do you ever
remember a newspaper with a scoop unless its a rascal politician
defecting (minor scoop)? Maybe when Goa Monitor was alive and you were
still running around in nappies.

In someways, democracy is a lost cause in Goa and the math does not
add up: when there is more construction than population, woah? Time to
get out when you can afford! There is enough material to start
WikiLeaksGoa!!!

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On 8 April 2010 22:36, Pandu Lampiao  wrote:

> Since Goa does not have any journalism/journalist to speak of (nobody
> had heard of democracy here)  ...

Why didn't you stay around as a journalist in Goa then? FN
--
Frederick Noronha
Books from Goa ::  http://goa1556.goa-india.org

The turtle lays thousands of egss without anyone knowing; but when the
hen lays an egg, the whole country is informed. -- Proverb from Mali.

[Goanet] Leander Paes on Indian GQ cover *correction*

[Pandu Lampiao]

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Apologies, ererred in the last namePaes.
Chastiti-y Fernendes was on the line  *aye saaiba, oozoo ma-ta*

Re: [Goanet] Satish Rivonkar Killed under Mining Truck

[floriano]

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Comments:
Thank you Mr. Kakodkar for asking these very pertinent questions.
We Goenkars do live in a 'make believe' world. GBA was hijacked in its laid 
down course right from the day of its formation through infiltration of 
minds which are pro-mega projects and hill cutting etc. And the 3000 odd 
crowd at the Azad Maidan on Dec 18, 2006 was taken for a jolly good ride. 
The bumpy effects of that ride is experienced today. The GBA has lost all 
its teeth. Why do I say that? If it was not so, how come the TCP amendment 
16 & 16A is not withdrawn yet? The people of Goa must not lose heart in mega 
movements led by supposed to be sincere Goans walking the wrong road. The 
PPS movement is building up by itself because there is no 'one' charismatic 
person who is leading it. This movement belongs to one and all. One needs to 
be wanting, desiring  POLITICAL SANITY in the way Goa is run, ruled and 
dominated. The mining issue is the ISSUE that has taken Goa down and is 
going to see it at the bottom of the pit soon, if Goa does not erupt into a 
'Naxal' type movement. Sanctimonious heads at the top who are doubling up as 
commission agents  must roll just like during the French Revolution. But in 
these modern time where the so called democracy rules, the 'guillotine' must 
be replaced by the ballot to severe the necks of the corrupters and the 
corrupted.


Only PPS has the potential to not only bell the cat but to see that the cat 
is banished to the political wilderness for ever.


Three cheers to the 'PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY'
Three cheers to 'PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM'
And last but not the least
A Cheer for the GOAN and for his GOA which has been forgotten and left in 
the dusty corner.


floriano
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Subject: [Goanet] Satish Rivonkar Killed under Mining Truck



After seeing how mining trucks maul people, I ask GBA - 1) Is GBA concerned 
only with the destruction of Goa and not with the destruction of Goan 
people? 2) Is GBA only concerned with beach side Western part of Goa and not 
concerned at all about the mine side Eastern Goa? 3) Mining excation is 
destroying Goan environment and mining transport is killing Goan people - 
Can Oscar, Sabina & co spare some time for Goa's Mining Plan? We all from 
Curchorem, Usgao, Bicholim & Ambaulim shall be with you.

Rajendra Kakodkar 9822101450

[Goanet] Why a Little Anxiety May Be Good For You - Yahoo! News

[Con Menezes]

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Why a little anxiety may be good for you??
C
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[Goanet] Mao vs. Gandhi in Chhattisgarh

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

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Mao vs. Gandhi in Chhattisgarh
By SALIL TRIPATHI

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303720604575169614063173730.ht
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A naïve admiration for the Maoists is emblematic of the tendency in some
among the Indian intellectual class toward left-wing utopianism.

Maoist insurgents ambushed Indian security forces in the dense forest
region of Chhattisgarh state in central India on Tuesday, killing over 70
troops of the Central Reserve Police Force. Analysts are calling it  the
worst single-day loss in fighting domestic insurgencies.

But despite such massacres, not everyone in India regards the Maoists with
horror. One such apologist is the talented and articulate novelist
Arundhati Roy who has, since her Booker Prize-winning 1997 novel "The God of
Small Things," focused on bigger things, such as attacking Indian economic
reforms, foreign investment, free markets, the United States and Israel.

In a rambling 19,500-word essay published a week ago in Outlook magazine in
India and the Guardian newspaper, Ms. Roy writes of recent  experiences
following the Maoists in the Dandakaranya forest, near where the security
forces were ambushed this week. The piece was headlined  "Gandhi, but with
guns."

The comparison is obscene. Not only does it suggest an amoral nihilism, it
also represents a rewriting of history. A Gandhian with a gun is as absurd
as a Maoist pacifist. India's founding father Mohandas Gandhi may not have
been as perfect as some would make him out, but he did believe that only the
right means could be used to reach an end, however noble. In 1922 he
suspended a nationwide civil disobedience movement, when  some Congress
followers burned a police station in Chauri Chaura,  killing over a dozen
policemen and officers. Maoist ideology is  precisely the opposite: The ends
justify the means.

Ms. Roy herself notes that when she mentioned Mohandas Gandhi's non-violent
struggle to the Maoists, they laughed hysterically. Despite  her best
efforts to portray a bucolic image of Maoists and tribals  living
harmoniously, their tranquility disturbed by forest officers,  loggers,
mining companies, and security forces, the truth still comes  through. 

The Maoists show off an impressive arsenal of weapons, and  their teenage
recruits watch hours of reruns of violent ambush videos.  The kids tell her
they want to implement Mao's vision in India.

Ms. Roy's naïve admiration for the Maoists is emblematic of the tendency in
some among the Indian intellectual class toward left-wing  utopianism. 
In
"Radical Chic & Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers," Tom  Wolfe lampooned the Park
Avenue elite sucking up to the Black Panther  terrorists who were killing
cops in 1960s America. Is history repeating  itself in India?

Nevertheless, just as in America three decades ago, the tide may be turning
as ordinary voters become fed up with the violence. Maoists have been
fighting the Indian state for over four decades under various  names,
including Naxalites, the name the movement got because of its  origins in
the town Naxalbari in West Bengal, where peasants revolted  against
landlords in the 1960s.

Like Maoists elsewhere, they are brutal. They conduct show-trials,
sometimes executing the people they find guilty; they use improvised
explosive devices and land mines; and they appear to use child soldiers.
Since 2006, their attacks have become audacious, targeting police stations,
power lines, schools and trains. They have not spared  civilians and other
"class enemies" who in their view collaborate with  the state.

Even India's Communist Parties have distanced themselves from Maoists, and
condemned their practices. The opposition Bharatiya Janata Party strongly
supports the government in its battle. For his part, Prime  Minister
Manmohan Singh has called the Maoists' threat the gravest  national security
crisis the country faces.

To be sure, Indians living in forests have legitimate grievances. Their
rights are routinely violated. Successive governments have failed them.

Large companies, Indian and foreign, want the mineral wealth in those
forests. The state hasn't built schools, nor equipped the few that are
built. There are few primary health care centers, and the administration
neglects remote areas. The rapidly modernizing and prospering parts of
urban India ignores the region, its poverty, and its problems.

But the Maoists offer no solution. Their collectivist authoritarianism is
culturally alien in an India where spiritual acceptance of fate prevails,
and where, despite feudal structures, inequities and  rigidi

[Goanet] Leander Paies on Indian GQ cover

[Pandu Lampiao]

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If you didn't notice, amcho Leander bab appeared slick and sharp on
the cover of  Indian edition of GQ (Gentelmen's Quarterly)...last
months edition. There is a feature interview and a photo feature on
him...nice,nice, a fashionable Goichi.

GQ has been doing a bit on Goa including a fashion feature called Goa
Standard Time in their first edition by Goa-based photographer Prabuda
Dasgupta.

More recently, a directionless, listless piece on Goan football or
rather concentrating on a former mining company's  football team. Not
sure the author has seen much of Goan football...or if any of you have
been going to the Nehru Stadium, like the policemen on duty, one could
fall asleep and miss nothing.  Its fashionable to hire foreign coaches
but  they change nothing. Goan football was exciting, alive and well
in the old days when players often had a shot at the bar before
entering the ground and the likes of Bernard and Catao rocked  the
stadium.
For a style and grooming magazine (GQ), one would think they would
picture the coach of the featured football team with his ears covered
no (gave an impression that the coaches ears were smoking)?

On the brighter side, there is Chastity Fernendiz...aye saaiba, moje
kaadiz boom-paack zaata. Chastity writes the column 'those' matters
and between the ends of her flimsy saree, I think she is
from...*saaiba, the keyboard is jammed*

[Goanet] Glastonbury goes Goa 2: well, not really!

[Patrice Riemens]

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Therefore my pub food report will be short. The cook went for Bengal curry
instead, Goa evening has been postponed for 6 weeks (& I won't be there)!

But the Bengal curry itself was good, esp. the fish (makes sense). The pub
(Rats - forgot its name again!) has a reputation to hold: it was several
times Best Indian Pub Food Award winner...

Thanks Eddie F for the Goan Seafood Co. Site looks great! But of course
they come only to Glaston for the festival once a year. And the festival
itself has a somewhat distended relationship with the town (which has a
somewhat troubled one with its own past ... and present ;-)

Now speaking of Bengal, is any member of the GAB on this list? I'd like to
hear from them!

Cheers from patrizio & Dnooos!

[Goanet] Table Tennis Camp in Panaji(12th to 30th April)

[Sandeep Heble]

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Panjim Table Tennis Club in association with Sports Authority of Goa
will be organizing a Table Tennis Camp at Indoor Stadium,
Campal-Panaji, from 12th to 30th April 2010. NIS Coach Irwin Cordo
will conduct the Camp, which will be held from 9.00 am onwards, for
beginners, intermediate and advanced players in the age group of 18
year and below.

The 1st 30 participants will receive a Camp allowance of Rs 500/-. A
Tournament for Camp participants will also be held with special
attractive prizes and trophies.

Those interested in participating may submit their entries to Sunny
Sports, 18 June Road, Panaji or Indoor Stadium, Campal-Panaji. For
more information, contact Sandeep Heble(9326129171).

yours sincerely
Sandeep Heble
Secretary, Panjim Table Tennis Club
9326129171

[Goanet] Konkani Tiatr Jr Menezes' "DUKH" in Toronto Canada

[raymondmenezes]

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>From the director of the highly acclaimed tiatr "ADEUS" comes another 
>masterpiece "DUKH" written & Directed by 'Jr. Menezes' and Produced by James 
>Fernandes' on Saturday, June 19th, 2010  at 2.30 at Michael Power Auditorium, 
>Toronto. For information please contact Olavio Da costa at 905-803-0371, 
>Winnie Crasto at 905-890-2725 or Lourdino Rodrigues at 416-244-7923

[Goanet] Could Marine Oil Be Alzheimer's Silver Bullet?

[Con Menezes]

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Keep reading.
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[Goanet] Obituary - Edwin Ceasar Pinto (Karachi / Toronto)

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O B I T U A R Y

Edwin Ceasar Pinto
(Dar-es-Salaam / Saligao / Panjim)
Died: 6 April 2010

It is with sadness that we announce that Edwin Pinto passed away 
peacefully at the North York Seniors' Health Centre on Tuesday evening, 
April 6, 2010 at the age of 92, surrounded by his family. He enjoyed 
playing bridge with his group of seniors and sang and played his guitar 
at family occasions and nursing homes.


He leaves behind his beloved wife Anne, children Emil (Yvette), Eric 
(Jean), Aileen (Brian), Christine (Ranvir), Andrew (Joseph) and 
grandchildren Darryl, Shelley, James, Mark, Sean, Kevin, Robinder, 
Davinder and Alexander.


Visitation on Friday, April 9, 2010 from 2-4 and 6-9 p.m. at the R.S. 
Kane Funeral Home (6150 Yonge St., at Goulding, south of Steeles Ave., 
416-221-1159).


A Funeral Mass will be held on Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 10 a.m. at 
St. Gabriel's Passionist Catholic Church, 670 Sheppard Ave. E. (east of 
Bayview Ave.), followed by a reception. (Extra parking at school on 
Elkhorn Ave.) Private interment to follow at Highland Memory Gardens.


Flowers are appreciated or in lieu of flowers, donations may be made to 
Canadian Feed the Children charity. www.canadianfeedthechildren.ca 
Condolences can also be sent to the family at www.rskane.ca



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Goanet Obit

Re: [Goanet] St Inez nullah now a creek

[Frederick Noronha]

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The Taj Vivanta is nearby. We can now expect to see government
efficiency in action, I guess! FN

On 8 April 2010 17:23, vivek araujo  wrote:
>
> It's not only sad but disgusting to see how human beings can destroy the 
> enviornment and this St. Inez Nullah is one of those sad stories

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[Goanet] Satish Rivonkar Killed under Mining Truck

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After seeing how mining trucks maul people, I ask GBA - 1) Is GBA concerned 
only with the destruction of Goa and not with the destruction of Goan people? 
2) Is GBA only concerned with beach side Western part of Goa and not concerned 
at all about the mine side Eastern Goa? 3) Mining excation is destroying Goan 
environment and mining transport is killing Goan people - Can Oscar, Sabina & 
co spare some time for Goa's Mining Plan? We all from Curchorem, Usgao, 
Bicholim & Ambaulim shall be with you.
Rajendra Kakodkar 9822101450 


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[Goanet] After Colva Priest, next who? Navelim?

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After Colva Priest, next who? Navelim?
 
Releasing Shortly  Tiatr
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Padrink Lagon
Saibinn Maim Roddta
Rogtachim Dukam
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Khoddekant dekhave –LCD Projection
Pollounk meuteli ek attvech torechi goddni, ji ghoddli Navelechim Igorjent, 
Pascanchea ratchea missar. 4th April 2010. by Parish Priest Fr. Leonard Moraes.
An episode of 'Azment' making

Tech porim polleat Fr. Leonard Moraes-an kel’lem Deucharponn, 
Benaulim Holy Trinity Igorjechea altarar porto Khuris (inverted Cross)
- Bisp Saib zago asun-ui nidlo eiun dhongi zor
Igorjechi xeta-Bhattam, vinkun kaddlim buildinga 
Builder, kiteak ghorche bedhi kuim bhailo chor
Focot xarani and ganche hollant zatolo
Famad , nanv-voste kolar bhag ghetat
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Re: [Goanet] Botched CRPF operations vs Maoists/Naxalites

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Comments:

Fair enough. No one must be allowed to take law in their own hands. But if 
it is 'insurrections' such as in these 4-5 states of India, then there must 
be something acutely wrong  with the governance, the policy making process 
and the policy makers. First,  introspection of government's own policies, 
where, how and why they hurt the sentiments of a large chunks of people 
(especially tribals who live as one with nature), followed by the redressal 
that not only does work but must be seen as working, such as by taking these 
people into confidence. Second, unconditional amnesty to the people at large 
without prejudice and personal victimisations for past deeds or 
involvements. Third, unbiased and impartial trials of those who have been 
proven to have  indulged in criminal activities,  unrelated to the 
insurection, the taking of  lives and the destruction of  property aka 
personal revenge. Design a way whereby the people themselves will hold the 
trials.


Cheers
floriano
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From: "Santosh Helekar" 

To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Botched CRPF operations vs Maoists/Naxalites



The causes of hatred need to be addressed, but it is important to prosecute 
people who resort to violence, without prejudice.


Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Vivian A. DSouza  wrote:


I just wonder what is fueling this home grown
insurrection. Could it be that the Tribals, fed up
because their land and their livelihood are being taken
up for mining activities and other
unwanted industrial projects are hitting back, unlike Goa
where we Goenkars are so susegad ??
... 

[Goanet] Willy DaCosta

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Folks, 
I have been requested to post the following here.
Mervyn
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John William (Willie) Da Costa
1932-2010
John William Da Costa passed away peacefully at North York General Hospital at 
6:45 am on Tuesday, April 6, 2010. 

 He is lovingly remembered by his devoted wife, Yvonne Da Costa (nee Mendes) 
and his five children Beverley, Deirdre, Gareth, Gavin and his wife Kym, and 
Neil.  Dad was a devoted husband, father, brother and uncle.  He was a mentor 
and father figure to many and was passionate about helping others. Of all his 
admirable qualities, his mischievous spirit and sense of humour will be greatly 
missed. 

The family wishes to thank everyone who touched his life and is grateful for 
the outpouring of sympathy and support they have received.  

Friends and family may call at the Highland Funeral Home 3280 Sheppard Ave. 
East  in Scarborough , Ontario on Thursday the 8th April 2010 from 2:00 pm to 
4:00 pm and 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm.  Funeral mass will be held at Our Lady of the 
Annunciation Church , 3 Combermere Drive , Toronto , Ontario at 10:00 am on 
Friday the 9th April 2010.  

The DaCosta family would like to extend an invitation after the church service 
for refreshments at Epiphany of Our Lord Church Hall, 3200 Pharmacy Avenue , 
Scarborough .  In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations to North York 
General Hospital or the Heart and Stroke Foundation. A special thanks to Dr. 
Born and the kind and amazing staff at North York General Hospital .



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Re: [Goanet] WikiLeaks

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On 8 April 2010 22:36, Pandu Lampiao  wrote:

> Since Goa does not have any journalism/journalist to speak of (nobody
> had heard of democracy here)  ...

Why didn't you stay around as a journalist in Goa then? FN
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[Goanet] GOA Picnic Reminder - April 18th.

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Hi Everyone, 
 
We have a whole bunch of you attending the picnic next Sunday April
18th. We hope that you and your bunnies are getting ready to enjoy a day
of games, egg hunting, cookie decorating and some delicious cupcakes to
name a few. 

So if you plan on attending with your kids please rsvp to 
goa...@yahoo.com so that we can plan the distribution of goodies for the
kids accordingly. 

Without giving too much away in advance, we have some really fun games
planned, for kids and adults, so come out and enjoy your Sunday with us.
It's a potluck, so bring your own food and maybe a little extra to
share?

Venue Details: Columbia Park, 4045 W 190th Street, Torrance, CA 90504 

When: 11:00 am onwards. RSVP to: goa...@yahoo.com especially if you have
young kids coming as we need to know how many kids to plan for. 

Note: *The parking lot on Prairie Avenue is closer to the picnic site. 
 
Thanks, 

Team GOA
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Re: [Goanet] Willy DaCosta

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Mervyn,

Thanks.


John J. D'Souza 

Please use the email address below to update your records

jds1...@hotmail.com
Surf: www.goanvoice.ca


Thanks

 




> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:57:08 -0700
> From: mervynal...@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Willy DaCosta
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> 
> Folks, 
> I have been requested to post the following here.
> Mervyn
> -
>  
>  
>  
> John William (Willie) Da Costa
> 1932-2010
> John William Da Costa passed away peacefully at North York General Hospital 
> at 6:45 am on Tuesday, April 6, 2010. 
> 
>  He is lovingly remembered by his devoted wife, Yvonne Da Costa (nee Mendes) 
> and his five children Beverley, Deirdre, Gareth, Gavin and his wife Kym, and 
> Neil.  Dad was a devoted husband, father, brother and uncle.  He was a mentor 
> and father figure to many and was passionate about helping others. Of all his 
> admirable qualities, his mischievous spirit and sense of humour will be 
> greatly missed. 
> 
> The family wishes to thank everyone who touched his life and is grateful for 
> the outpouring of sympathy and support they have received.  
> 
> Friends and family may call at the Highland Funeral Home 3280 Sheppard Ave. 
> East  in Scarborough , Ontario on Thursday the 8th April 2010 from 2:00 pm to 
> 4:00 pm and 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm.  Funeral mass will be held at Our Lady of the 
> Annunciation Church , 3 Combermere Drive , Toronto , Ontario at 10:00 am on 
> Friday the 9th April 2010.  
> 
> The DaCosta family would like to extend an invitation after the church 
> service for refreshments at Epiphany of Our Lord Church Hall, 3200 Pharmacy 
> Avenue , Scarborough .  In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations to 
> North York General Hospital or the Heart and Stroke Foundation. A special 
> thanks to Dr. Born and the kind and amazing staff at North York General 
> Hospital .
> 
> 
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[Goanet] Daily Grook #668

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DAILY GROOK #668
===
MATURE CURE
===
by Francis Rodrigues



widow with gigolo
realises the truth -
conceal the fellow
to keep her youth!


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[Goanet] Talking Photo: Typical Road Blocking

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Typical Road Blocking
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4502923853/sizes/l/
 
Panjim city (near Customs house), DB Road
This was organised by CPI unit of Goa in protest against the price rise etc




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[Goanet] Artist to donate to Goa Sudharop

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Artist Joao de Brito has kindly agreed to donate 35% of the proceeds of his art 
sales to Goa Sudharop.

See http://www.joaodebrito.com/goa-sudharop-gallery-special/

Please consider purchasing his art which benefits Goa Sudharop. Joao can be 
reached at artistjoaodebr...@gmail.com

Thank you.

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[Goanet] Talking Photo: This KOVASO reminds me of my teacher Nisha

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Talking Photo: This  KOVASO reminds me of my teacher Nisha
 
I was looking for this to capture for the last 3 years.
Yesterday, when we got stranded at Verna - Cansaulim Road,  
I saw this from a distance, and walk straight through the fields covering 
for about 300-400 metres.
 
It also reminds me of my Hindi Teacher  ‘Nisha’. Who was very much 
fond of this flower with strong fragrance.  We often gave it to her.
She was our class teacher too.
 
Hindu women usually wear it on their heads.
They would take one bar or bud (3-4 inch long see pic) and wrap it 
in one of its yellow petal/leaf and place it on their hair with the 
help of hair-pin.
 
Check this out

K O V A S O
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4502894081/sizes/l/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4502892993/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4503523470/sizes/l/
 
Related:
- There is another variety of this plant (looks identical)  which gives 
pineapple like large fruits instead (geen and then redish/orange).
Some used to use its pieces/chunks as cockroach repellants.  
These plants usually see along the beach side   
 
-  If lighted fire, this type of live/green  plants burns  quickly like another 
other dry leaves
 
- After the Easter midnight mass, as a tradition, . thorny part of the l
eaves (see pic) we used to hook (secretly ) behind our colleagues’ 
back (usually shirt/suit/frock or vistid) as a  tail (Xempddi).  
Don’t know what significance it has or had  to Easter or the 
Christ’s resurrection.
 
- The bar or buds we talked about above, if shakes or strikes, 
it gives lot of powder with tiny crawling fleas- sort of head lice 
 
- Some variety of these plants may be used as ornamental plants. 
There are some at Kala Academy
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3434683411/sizes/l/
 
- Famers may use this thorny plants to barricade their fields etc
 
Locally, we call this plant ‘KERKI’ or KERKIO or KERKIAM ZADD
 
What’s English or botanical name?




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