[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Why do Goans love their seasonal monsoon vegetables? (Nandkumar Kamat, NT)
WHY DO GOANS LOVE THEIR SEASONAL MONSOON VEGETABLES? Focussing on ten delicacies of the rains Dr.Nandkumar M. Kamat nandka...@gmail.com --- Originally published in shorter form in The Sunday Panorama, The Navhind Times, Sunday, July 25, 2010. This version modified on July 28, 2010. --- On the morning of Sunday, July 25, the craving began. This year I had not tasted Goa's crunchy pipryos, the finger long vegetable delicacies which we used to munch by the tens as kids with or without the local agarachem (locally farmed) salt, lime juice, chilly or black pepper powder. Occasionally the bitter part would trouble us. My craving took me to Panaji-Ponda road where, after crossing Bhoma and till Farmagudi you see roadside stalls displaying fresh farm produce. I went up to Farmagudi and sampled the green wealth of my red Goan soil. Ten pipryos for Rs. 50 -- the rate was same at every stall and non-negotiable. Like an angler finding his prize catch and hunter his game, I piled up a stack of crunchy pipryos, ridge gourds, snake gourds, local saldati bananas, multicoloured and heavy, grenade-shaped tender bamboo shoots or quills, bitter gourd (karatim) and returned home victorious and satiated. My communion with the fertility principle of my motherland was now complete. Why do Goans love their seasonal monsoon vegetables? It is all in the genes and conditioned by culture, family upbringing. The simplest rule of nutrition is to eat lower down the food chain. That reduces the levels of xenobiotics and toxins entering our bodies. Under the microscope of anthropology and nutritional science, epigenetics and genomics, Goa's traditional foods tell us something unique -- the call of the Goan genes for seasonal delicacies. The current disease burden in Goa shows a clear nutritional disconnect from traditional foods, traditional diets, seasonal food intake. Ecological simplification in Goa matches dietary simplification. Dietary simplification causes genetic simplification and spread of only hybrids and monocultures. Traditional Goan food draws from seasonal food resources. The principle was to combine prebiotics, probiotics, antibiotics by selecting vegetables yielding beneficial phytochemicals. This article stresses on the importance of ten monsoon vegetable delicacies in search of which a true Goan would roam the markets, travel far distances and bargain hard just because his genes dictate his taste buds, his enzymes crave for the ancient substrates. Many vegetables also provide cures for ailments which the body demands. Which are these ten delicacies? These include ferns, grasses, cucurbits, aroids. Let me list them-- the first is an iodine-rich edible fern -- Ankur, scientific name Acrostichum aureum, followed by two species of bamboo-Dendrocalamus strictus and Bambusa bambos -- the tender shoots of which are known as 'quills'. Fourth on my list is Taro or alu -- Colocasia esculenta. Fifth is white amaranthus known as 'dhavi bhaji'. Sixth is Shirmundalechi bhaji, a rare vegetable now exploited for medicinal purposes -- the wild Chlorophytum tuberosum. Seventh on my list are the edible, tasty flowers of Dudi, the Red Pumpkin -- Cucurbita maxima -- a species introduced from Mexico. The last three vegetables belong to Cucurbitaceae family -- Cucumbers (Cucumis sativus), Padwal or Snake Gourd, Trichosanthes cucumerina and the spongy Ghosali or Ridge Gourd, Luffa acutangula. How many traditional preparations Goans make from these ten vegetables? A minimum of 100. Let us take Ankur. It is a fern found in mangrove areas next to the estuaries of Goa. One can see huge stands of Acrostichum near the Guirim byepass and along the Cumbarjua canal. The tender fiddleheads are harvested, made into small bundles and sold. Rich in fibres, vitamins and minerals, well-cooked Ankur is a passport to good health. Goa joins a few select global communities which consume edible ferns. Anthropologically it tells us about the wisdom of our ancestors and first settlers who discovered their use. Bamboos are grasses found in a large belt on earth. But it needs wisdom of thousands of years to identify the edible species, harvest and process them. Tender bamboo shoots contain lethal concentrations and amounts of cyanogenic glucosides which on endogenic hydrolysis yield hydrocyanic acid. Cooking destroys the enzyme responsible for the endogenic hydrolysis to a very large extent. But Goans know the art and science of cutting, soaking, removing the unwanted principle. The tender bamboo shoots which Goans consume are rich in vitamins, cellulose, amino acids and trace elements and fibre. Edible content of a newly harvested tender bamboo shoot is usually 25 to 30 per cent, with smaller shoots yielding a lower percentage
[Goanet-News] Scholar, writer, artist, musicologist, linguist... (Maria Aurora Couto, on Dr. Jose Pereira)
SCHOLAR, WRITER, ARTIST, MUSICOLOGIST, LINGUIST... An appreciation of the work of Dr. Jose Pereira By Maria Aurora Couto couto.aur...@gmail.com [Text of a speech delivered at the launch of the book 'Song of Goa' at the Hotel Mandovi, Panjim, July 30, 2010.] I feel inadequate in this role of having to present an overview of the career of Dr Jose Pereira -- scholar, writer, artist, musicologist, linguist -- whose life's work has been devoted to an exploration of the interaction between India and the West in art and culture, starting with Goa and its Latin Christianity as centre point but Indian history and culture as the matrix of artistic expression. This point of view was expressed by the fearless and peerless Jose in Lisbon in the 1950s when he was Adjunct Professor of East-West Cultural Relationships at the Instituto Superior de Estudos Ultramarinos. Of course, this viewpoint was unacceptable to the authorities there; he had to leave his teaching post and get out of Lisbon immediately. I feel inadequate because it is Alban who should have been performing this role and I find myself having to fill his shoes -- too large for me. And so there will be large gaps for I do not possess the scholarly knowledge and philosophical profundity of Jose and Alban. Although Alban's work in government took him in a different direction, they kept up the life of the mind and conversations that they had begun as undergraduate students, a conversation that has been an inspiration and an education for me as listener. Jose's capacity for concentrated work was evident from the start when he combined studying for B.A. (Hons.) in Sanskrit, (1951) at Siddharth College with a full time course at the J.J.School of Art and then opted for a Ph.D. in Ancient Indian History and Culture, University of Bombay(1958). Although I first met Jose when Alban was posted in Goa in 1962, I got to know him well when he spent time with us in Delhi before joining as Research Associate in the History of Indian Art, at The American Academy of Benares, Varanasi (1967-1969). After which he joined as Professor of Theology, Fordham University, New York. Dr Pereira has published more than 20 books and over 130 articles on theology, history of art and architecture, and on Goan and culture, Konkani language and music. I recall with nostalgic pleasure our conversations at the time including about the economics of running a home. He was engaged to be married and his spartan approach to life (No Lux soap only Sunlight will do! No butter, no jam, I can dip bread in my tea) infuriated me and in great agitation I advised him not to get married. I dare not reveal to you the violence of our disagreements. As I said yesterday at the Xavier Centre, Jose though married and a father of five children, has led a monastic life and I think we should specially applaud Sofia, his daughter who is sensitive to her father's extraordinary gifts, and brought him to Goa in 2008 to unveil the fresco in Fatorda and this time to exhibit his latest work. I recall him talking in awe of Hagya Sofia, the Cathedral in Istanbul and Alban and he discussing the intricacies and spirituality of Byzantine art. So it was no surprise when he called his first-born Sofia. We need to give her a special round of applause for the dedicated love and patient care with which she sustains her father during these trips. You must excuse me for being personal but I cannot talk about Dr Pereira without recalling the debates at home when quotations from St Thomas Aquinas, and St Augustine, Greek tragedy and Shakespeare, William Blake and Gerald Manley Hopkins, Greek philosophy and Roman orators and historians and reigning supremely, Dante, always Dante, were sort of flung at each other until Jose put a stop to it all with a long quotation in Sanskrit which he then proceeded to translate. Glorious memories I treasure. Indeed I have known Jose much more as a scholar than as an artist whom Alban knew better. I repeat what I said yesterday that this belated recognition of Dr Jose Pereira points to a certain indifference in our society to scholarship. We call ourselves an enlightened and modern society and yet gifted intellectuals or scholarly work is largely ignored. This was not always the case, but this slow descent into a form of decadence (which started much before Liberation) has to be studied and understood in order to encourage aspiration in our youth. I am delighted that Goa,1556 and Broadway Books have organized this function [July 30, 2010] not a moment too soon. Jose is known in Goa for his work on the Konkani language and for his books on the Mando, but less for his seminal work on Baroque architecture and
Re: [Goanet] UID for Goan Residents
One of the things that reason and science teach us is that generalization of the type quoted below is invariably wrong. If objectivity was a myth airplanes would not have flown. We would not have landed on the moon. And there would not have been an internet. Kevin Dunbar himself would not have been able to draw meaningful objective conclusions from his research. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting, I don't know if you'll agree: The reason we're so resistant to anomalous information - the real reason researchers automatically assume that every unexpected result is a stupid mistake - is rooted in the way the human brain works. Over the past few decades, psychologists have dismantled the myth of objectivity. The fact is, we edit our reality, searching for evidence that confirms what we already believe. Although we pretend we're empiricists - our views dictated by nothing but the facts - we're actually blinkered when it comes to information that contradicts our theories. The problem with science, then, isn't that most experiments fail - it's that most failures are ignored. http://www.devcomments.com/Interpreting-facts-as-failure-the-neuroscience-of-science-i16694.htm Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490 On 31 July 2010 17:53, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FN, Do advise IF you find the article at http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm reasonable or unreasonable; and if unreasonable - why you find it so? Unless you are a politician or an aspiring one, your attempt to divide statement is as daft as the colaco types one which has remained uncorrected for several years. The next thing one might hear from you is that I am (or Rajan is) attempting to divide the previously Portuguese Goa into Old conquests and New conquests. I trust that you will acknowledge that 'facts' do not need re-invention, and that good neighbourly relationships and tolerance develop with the benefit of time. But then perhaps, you will not. Frederick Noronha wrote: I'm talking specifically about the attempt to divide Muslims into good Goan Muslims and bad migrant Muslims. No prize for guessing where this ingenuous argument comes from! You can find examples of this here: http://www.goanews.com/news_disp.php?newsid=128 http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg09023.html and many other places since this hybrid of communalism-regional chauvinism (specifically focussed on the Muslim) was first floated into the market. FN * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Saibinniche Maim, ghe hem Kuler Tuka ani bori-xi ek Okol dhi Maka
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756935097/sizes/l/ Saibinniche Maim, ghe hem Kuler Tuka ani bori-xi ek Okol dhi Maka Senhora, Tomai Colher, dai me Mulher (Lady, (St, Anne) Take this spoon and give me a bride) If you need a child.. Ghe hem touxen tuka ani dhi ek bhurgen Maka Tomai pepino, dai me minino http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3757732684/sizes/l/ Happy ‘Touxeamchem Fest’ to you all (1/8/10) Santana, Talaulim Near Curca/Goa-Velha http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756935097/sizes/l/ Ladie, are you looking for a 'Nouro' for yourself? Then take same 'Urid' (Pulses) and say Tomai Urido, dai me Marido http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756936853/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756934921/sizes/l/ Renovation work likely to complete by Dec. this year (2010) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3756019479/sizes/l/ St. Ann Church (1577) Talaulim, Goa “The renovation work of the Church taken up by the Indian National Trust for Art and Cultural Heritage (INTACH ) at a cost of Rs. 4.88 crore (Work started in May 2008) Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArTnwkRIBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWRvXUJPZ9Y all pic and video from last year. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Goa news for August 1, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa advance to semis - Indian Express at the Yuba Bharati Krirangan here on Saturday to secure a place in the semi-final of the 64th Santosh Trophy. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHh37w0R6aoLDaKK49dlktlWw4Kcwurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Goa-advance-to-semis/654362 *** Scarlett case: Mother says trial could help other tourist victims seek justice - Sify fyThe mother of a teenager, Scarlett Keeling, who was killed in Goa in 2008, has said that she hopes the trial into her daughter's death will encourage ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGb8qHTkIwIXbjrl8U7ArFo0ckOJAurl=http://sify.com/news/scarlett-case-mother-says-trial-could-help-other-tourist-victims-seek-justice-news-international-kh5qudahjic.html *** Goa house disrupted 4th time over drug nexus probe - Sify fg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNERwC-HGVcHR4t99wFYm6_cfbBtEQurl=http://sify.com/news/goa-house-disrupted-4th-time-over-drug-nexus-probe-news-national-kh3vObgecca.html *** Goa CM 'misled' NCP to get my resignation: Pacheco - Times of India isled-Pawar-about-evidence-against-me-Pacheco/Article1-578974.aspxKamat misled Pawar about evidence against me: Pacheco http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGbG4StI05ZqvXAmAiuwItuZ68Csgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Goa-CM-misled-NCP-to-get-my-resignation-Pacheco-/articleshow/6228868.cms *** Goa to frame new mining policy - Hindustan Times Vessel_clearance_made_mandatory_in_Goa/157566.htmlIndian iron ore mining mess - Vessel clearance made mandatory in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG1L5w1rhIOAxAWf-6trKT_BHjEcgurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Goa-to-frame-new-mining-policy/Article1-579867.aspx *** Konkani litterateur Ravindra Kelekar presented Jnanpith Award 2006 - The Hindu elekar-presented-jnanpith-award/190578.htmlRavindra Kelekar presented Jnanpith Award http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGYoaaLgpdaAZv3rjJNeN0VCK8jgwurl=http://www.hindu.com/2010/08/01/stories/2010080164262200.htm *** Goa iron units hit by Karnataka's ban on exports - istockAnalyst.com (press release) it owing to the recent ban on iron ore exports from that State. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHhHY_g9nrldLM-LZimt7NBJ3Gx3gurl=http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4360698 *** Goa NIT inaugurated, gets head start over other institutes - Times of India cr-royalty-from-fudged-ore-exports/articleshow/6242636.cmsRs 1cr royalty from fudged ore exports http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH47A7TgDmwyr1slBREcQGdbzS-fQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-NIT-inaugurated-gets-head-start-over-other-institutes/articleshow/6242565.cms *** WIN ..a luxury hol to Goa - Mirror.co.uk ight holiday for two. We've teamed up with Shana Foods to offer ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEyyWQc3NmEfqONw8aza-YmGy4A3Qurl=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/07/31/win-a-luxury-hol-to-goa-115875-22453283/ *** Rane suspends GMC doc, holds order in abeyance - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Health minister Vashwajit Rane ordered suspension of a doctor from Goa Medical College and hospital on Saturday morning for operating a patient in a ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEuR-HNszc7KGXYOJccUQbWMT1sMAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Rane-suspends-GMC-doc-holds-order-in-abeyance/articleshow/6242596.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop picnic: Save the Date - Sunday, September 5
The Goa Sudharop Youth group cordially invite you to a community picnic on Sunday, September 5, from 11:30am onwards at the reserved area in Pleasant Hill Park, Northern California, located at 147 Gregory Lane, Pleasant Hill, California, 94523. Please mark your calendars and pass the word around. The energetic and enthusiastic Youth group have planned fun activities for ALL ages. In addition they will organize the following as a way to have a fun time while also giving back to the community: 1. Flip-flop drive to send flip-flops to Goa. 2. Toy drive to send toys to Goa. 3. Book drive to send new/used books to Goa. 4. “Treat me Sweet” event initiated by Anjali Shastri and assisted by her Bake team to bake items for Goan senior citizens in the San Francisco Bay area. Seniors (65+) are requested to bring a short story about their Goan past and share their oral history with the youth. All youth who wish to participate in organizing and helping out may sign up for your tasks ahead of the picnic day by contacting Shilla Almeida at shilla.alme...@gmail.com. More details on the picnic to follow. For US Presidential Youth volunteer hours credit, please email Nadia D’Silva, Record-keeper at nadiadsilv...@yahoo.com to get service hours credit. Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] 1977 : C Alvares, Rico Rod, Souza Ferrao, Robin Vaz, Cyriaco Dias, Ophelia, Paul Romy, Asha Bhosle, Ivo Almeida, Helen Pereira etc
1977 : C Alvares, Rico Rod, Souza Ferrao, Robin Vaz, Cyriaco Dias, Ophelia, Paul Romy, Asha Bhosle, Ivo Almeida, Helen Pereira etc C Alvares the ever green hero or King of Duets Birthday today – The 1st August. I thought I would dedicate this 800th production of mine to C Alvares and all tiatrists Musicians Bhuerantlo Munis – A trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVcdNJzhIkM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVcdNJzhIkM It took me roughly two days to complete the abv project. Note: Knowing me and my work on the net, the Copyrights Holder of the Films Amchem Noxib, Nirmonn, Boglantt, Buerantlo Munis etc once wrote to me to say I can use it all. Thank you for your support. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Daily Grook #772
DAILY GROOK #772 === ANT PREVENT === by Francis Rodrigues to prevent disease eat ants deep-fried, now u'll have these anty-bodies inside! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Two faces of HJS
I was walking by Youtube and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17OzhfRXXPUfeature=related. The HJS want to kill Jose Pereira but in the above video they are enjoying a wedding and plus a bandook in hand. I wonder if it belonged to Gabbar Singh from the Chambal valley? BC * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo Paulo, GWS Mhonnchem Kitem?
Paulo, GWS Mhonnchem Kitem? Bhair tor dhull ani gormi. Kuveittan 50 degree Celsius gormencho kantto voir sorlolo astona ghorantle bhair sorop mhonnchem tapsanicho funkea tap (fever) angar ghevop. Mhojea oslea zantte pirayer pavloleanim, dhull ani vottache dhoga koddsun pois ravlear anink thoddim bhov vorsam sonvsari jivitantli favo zait. Sunkrar! Kuveittan bhouxik sutti. Donparchem jevonn zatoch thoddobhov visov gheunk bed-ir addvo poddlom. Nidh lagli mista. Ani te nidhent kedde vhodd mhunn sopon ga! Bhouch vhoddlem sopon tem. Tumkam sanglea viret mhozo jiv dorta? Atanch sangtam Kuveittantle famad Inglish potrancher ek jahir khollovni porgot keli. 'Konkani Summer Classes'. Iskolachea bhurgeank hea disamni sutti mhontoch, Kuveittan thikann korun aslolea Konknni avoy-bapaichea bhurgeank Konknni path fukott xikovpak ani Konknnicho mog Goychea bhurgeam modim vistarunk mhaka ek urbha aili. Zaum tem Canada , Australia , New York ani her desant kaim ap-khuxen vavurpi fuddem sorun bhurgeank Konknni ulounk ani borounk xikoitat. Ani oslea somajik vavurpeank, thoimsorle Goyche somudayeche fuddari (Goans community leaders) asat te, tankam arthik (financial) mozot kortat. Zaum tem baddean ghetlole klas-rumank ani bhurgeank khana-pivnnam (refreshment) adi ., adi. Tachem bhaxen hanvem korchem, oxem mhaka dislolean hanv fuddem sorlom. Mhaka dislem choddan chodd panch tem sov bhurgeancho avoy-bapui khuxi dakhoitolo. Pollevnk ghelear, tis odik bhurgeanchi volleri lagloli pollenv mhojer akant. Ghorant tor panch tem sat bhurgeank zago aslo ani nhoi tisevoir. Kortolom kitem? Konnem tori eka xannean budh dili. Don Bosco mhontlolea iskolachea vhoddilak sompork (contact) khor ani mhoji khuxi uktay. Ani hanvem toxem kelem. Mhoinombhor iskolacho fukott vosro mell’lo. Konknni vorg suru zalear sumar podra dis odik zal’le. Bhurgeank hanvem mandde-dulpotam, bhogktti gitam, poromporik gayanna xikoilim zalear, kovita, nibond, mottvi kotha ani her borpavoll koxi vachunk-borounk zai tem, tanchea mostokan sarkem boso meren xikoilem. Goykar ekvottan jiyelear kitlem porian eka khoddpar ghott ravun akhoch sonvsar jikunk zata tem, Otumbrache 10ver , 2003 vorsa 'Kuwait Goa Day' 'Yadostik'-ar (souvenir) chappun haddloli kovita 'Goenkarancho Ekvott' vachun dakhoili ani ekvottachem mothv tanchea tornnea gineanar cheppun ghatlem. Irlem-irlem korun Konknni ulounk ani borounk noko aslolim bhurgim Konknni vachunk-borounk xiklim mhunn, bhurgeanchea vhoddilam koddsun disantlean fonar fon yetale tachea velean mhaka kolltalem. Aiz tor hanvem ek general knowledge oxem kitem tori vixei ghetlolo. “Bhurgeamno! Tumi zannant Kuveitt desan Goykaranche zaite klub ani sonstha asat. Lamb nanvam aslolea klub/sonsthechi nanvam, sonkxepan (abbreviation) vo dusre bhaxen short form-an ulek korunk xikoitam Dekhik: United Club of Utorda-Kuwait hachem short form UCU-K zata. KIFF mhonnchem, Kuwait-Indian Football Federation. Somzolim mhu tumi? Bore tor. Atam hanv tumkam vichartam. Hummm! ladies first. Tum go Etelvina. KKK mhonnchem kitem?” “Mhaka dista, mhaka dista. Kuveitt Konknni Klas” “Na, na na! Sarkem na! Bore tor. Klu (clue) ditam. Hem ek kendr. Somzuya, Konknni kendr. Atam sangat. Bhouch lagim haddleant tumkam”Choutea bankar boslolem Verona-n hat ubarlo ani mhonnlem “Mastor, KKK mhonnchem Kuwait Konknni Kendr” “Karekt! Verona bayen sarkem sanglem. Ek sang, itlem vegim tuka koxem koll’lem?” “Mastor, tumi klu dil’lo. Konknni Kendr mhunn. UCU-K ani KIFF hanchem K okxar Kuwait zata zalear KKK-chem Kuwait nhoi?” “Borem huxar mure por? Tallio, tallio.” “Kaytan, atam tuka vichartam. KGTS mhonnchem kitem?” “K for Kuwait , Kuwait , Kuwait , Kuw…” “Arre, kantar gaita vo..” ”Mastor, klu di nhi?” sovea bankar bosun aslolo Duming boballo. “Borem. Hi ek tiatristanchi sonstha. Atam sangat” “Mastor hanv sangtam”, laginch aslolea Lorry-n hat ubharlo. “KGTS mhonnchem, Kuwait-Goans Tiatristanchi Sonstha” “Va, va, va. Huxear por! Mottean talio marat. Ek sang Lorry. Tuzo konn tori ghorcho monis hea sonsthen tiatrist asa?” “Na mastor”, “Tor tuka koxem koll’lem?” “Mastor, tunvem klu dil’lo tiatristanchi sonstha mhunn. Mhonntoch, K-Kuwait zalem ani Goykara bogor hereank konank mhonntat tiatrist? Goans, hem utor zhoddun KGTS mhonnchem, Kuwait-Goans Tiatristanchi Sonstha zalem nam?” Me and my big mouth. Hanvem monantuch gunngunlailem. Zalem zalear sarkem foddun divop? Mhoje osle mastor aslear bhurgim napas (fail) zaunk aileant?Atam hankam agvodd vichar korchoch poddlo. “Bhurgeamno! Tumi kednai tori chukun perim grounddar futtbol khell pollevnk gheleant astolim. Thoinsor DHL Worldwide express boroiloleo bond ghaddio polleleat asteleo. Sarkem? Toxem tor, DHL mhonnchem kitem? Tum. Oi, oi tum Shabu. Hanv zannam tum too sharp vo very quick zap ditolo mhunn.”To eksarko khol chintnamni poddlo. Tachi tokli zhodd zait gheli. Dolle pittpittait mhontlem. “Mastor, DHL-ant ‘K’ na
Re: [Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings
To Goanet - Rajendra Kakodkar wrote: The situation is very grim. Vulnerability has increased because Ruling and Opposition are colluding where they see money. Should not we priortize and allign our energies for Goa instead of diverting to distant issues? We know the situation is grim We have known about it for a long time. Check the Goanet archives of the past 3 years. You are perhaps new to the boards. The way it works is, you are free to start a new thread on issues you care about, on issues you deem important. After all, priorities vary. Admin Noronha does not believe that the builders are doing a number of Goa. He has been denying and/or downplaying the havoc wrought by construction. He would have thought differently if Manohar was in power, but all this destruction under his benevolent prasad-distributor Digu deserves a pass. For 'prasad' always has a sweet smell and it is always secular. When I was investigating the building violations, land conversions etc 3 years ago (on my own nickel and time), his job was to spread the lie that this was a secret BJP operation to discredit his beloved Kangress. He claimed that I had assumed a 'green garb' for the purpose. His tactics are well-known: if you focus your energies battling an issue X, Admin Noronha will come along and ask why you are not doing anything about Y. He tried hard with to smear my telephoto lens but alas, the muck stuck to him instead. He then wept like a baby that I was deflowering his beloved Goanet. But the other mods thought otherwise. So if you must ask the kinds of questions you have above, feel free to direct them to the lying hypocrite Frederick Noronha. You could start by asking him who is subsidizing him to deny the construction madness currently underway in Goa. Turn his own wink-wink-nudge-nudge old maid ways on him, and you will do just fine. Warm regards, r * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events
To Goanet - Dr. Santosh Helekar wrote: At variance with what is posted below, I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a polite and respectful discussion between the lady representative of the extremist Hindu organization, Dr. Jose Pereira and the organizers of the exhibition. The only provocation for confrontation that I saw was from Admin Noronha. I just took a look at the two posted videos. The only piece of hostility there, as Dr. Helekar has noted, came from the anti-Hindu, communal, muckraking, coward-of-a-smear-merchant Frederick Noronha. To the likes of Admin Noronha and his fellow cohorts like the Commie operator Gadgil, only Hindu malfeasance is visible, and they will lie through their pustulated behinds at every opportunity provided by the fringe Hindu rightwing to portray the Hindu Right as the biggest danger since Nazi Germany. At the same time, they will invent every reason possible to whitewash Muslim atrocities. The biggest danger to communal peace in Goa is this breed of dregs, not the Sanatan Saunstha. You can take this to the bank. Now apropos of the video - I completely disagree with the lady representative of the HJS. Hurt feelings is a lame ploy. I say, get tough and get real. Your faith ought not to be so fragile that some paintings somewhere rattles it. You also do not have any right to disrupt a private exhibition funded by private monies. (You may have had a case if public monies were being used, in which case it should apply across the board, to all religions.) Finally, Sri Krishna's amorous impulses and dalliances must be CELEBRATED - and they indeed, are, in song and dance, if these folks knew anything about their own traditions - not denied or kept under wraps. It is a sad commentary on today's Hindus that they have internalized Christian and Muslim prudery to repudiate what is a glorious aspect of their own spiritual and cultural tradition. Regards, r * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Article : BY THE LIGHT OF SILVERY PETROMAX (for posting on Goanet)
By the light of the Silvery Petromax By Tony Fernandes It was the light source that brightened many great and important occasions with its characteristic and luminescent white light for over three generations. It was also used in all shops in the towns and villages. The well-known and proven ‘Petromax’ lantern held centre stage for many nightly functions, celebrations and festivities in Goa. It was called colloquially as ‘petromas’. Till today, nearly a century after its invention by two German brothers, the brilliance of the Petromax has not faded. In the absence of electricity in the old days, the ‘petromax’ was very popular mainly due to its use on significant and auspicious occasions that were held both indoor and outdoor. It adorned many high places like the ‘matou’ (canopy) for wedding celebrations at night, at sung litanies in homes, salves, vespers and feasts in churches and chapels, at school functions, Christmas and New Year dances, nataks and tiatros, at zagors and zatras, and at open-air night fairs and celebrations, for bhajans in the temples as well as at religious festivals like Divali, Dasera and others. Its main advantages were its reliability and portability. It shed its light all around during Ganesh Chaturthi festival and often led the procession to the river or pond for immersion. It also brightened the pre-wedding ritual of ‘ros” at the bride and bridegroom’s houses, and lit the way from the traditional ‘matou’ to the ‘xim’ (boundary line) at the concluding post-wedding finale when the relatives and guests from each side of the respective families parted ways. At least thre households in our small village owned a Petromax in the early fifties. Later by the early 1960’s my father had purchased one especially for my elder brother’s wedding. To get it working required some level of skill. At sundown just before the Angelus prayers I watched my father as he literally brought this amazing innovation to light. At the time I thought it seemed as though it was quite a ritual till the time it finally shed its super incandescent light on the surroundings. My father was quite adept at lighting it. I was quite young then. “Someday I got learn to light this thing’, I said to myself. I also closely watched my older brother as he trimmed and primed this awesome light source. As days went by, I was assigned with minor tasks before this self-contained apparatus delighted us with its full glow. The training involved fetching the kerosene container and funnel, filling the tank and cleaning the round glass cover with a soft cloth. As a young lad I admired the elders in the village when they lit this lantern, going through the various stages of the entire procedure in the fading evening twilight. It was always at twilight time when we got around to lighting it. It had a great effect in brightening up an entire community. We had a special iron hook fitted to one of the roof beams to hang it after lighting it up. I had always appreciated this shiny nickel-plated gadget, but did not have the slightest clue why it took so long for it to emit the bright light that it was so famous for. At the same time I also thought that this appliance was not something to fool around with. It appeared to be an appreciable appliance yet cumbersome and complex in its operation. It was only when I was in my mid-teens that I understood the working of this superb invention. Finally I was successful in lighting it all by myself, but of course with Dad’s supervision and I clearly recall my first experience in lighting it and became easy over the years. Although we owned a petromax we used it only for certain important occasions like feasts and litanies whenever my father or brother came home for holidays from Bombay. Our village neighbours often borrowed it whenever they needed it. Lighting it up always made me wary as it involved an element of risk – a rather potentially flammable substance with increased risk from the pressurized tank and the flame itself. The petromax had an enormous lighting power of the value of 500 candlepower. It had a luminosity equivalent to 4 units of 100 watt tungsten bulbs. Its bright white light was nearly 5700 lumens. The white-washed walls reflected the light and enhanced the interior of the house even more. As a self-contained and independent apparatus, this powerful light-source had a huge candle power to match. It comprised of many different parts and features. It had to be first primed or pre-heated. This was done by igniting spirit in the receptacle inside the round glass cover above the tank through an opening below its chimney. To provide pressurized kerosene to light up, it had to be pumped by hand. Among its other important features was an air-pressure gauge that needed constant attention. The complete pump assembly was fitted into the tank. The piston, rod and washer assembly were retrievable for checking
[Goanet] The Lost Supper
Antonio makes a good point. Btw, I believe Da Vinci himself, always painted dressed in finery. Presumably a natty dresser. Sorvespor kitlo boro, tacho mae mog shim naslolo Sorvespor kitlo boro, tacho mae mog shim naslolo The Dhanapati (Dhonia, also Good Shepherd [Dhangar]) in this case is the Aam Admi presiding at the Lost Supper---in that cartoon sitting in the the place of Jesus, who presided at the Last Supper. To me this Lost Supper is a meal of missed opportunity, where the Politicians are not loosing a moment to take it in. It is as though this is their last meal with the Aam Aadmi and what they do henceforth will be done in memory of him--of the Aam Admi. That the common man is dead, or quite so--or so it is desired. Manmohan Singh is in his blue turban (as in Hail to the UN) is there as are all the Ballbusters. Perhaps Montek was serving wine. Christians--of all degrees and digressions, including nonchalants, etc., should have crossed themselves, with knowing smiles--that the basic idea of the Last Supper was being HANDILY and effectively employed by an Indian cartoonist to parody Indian Politicians. Perhaps, we do not wish to see, seek or do not want to get the basic underpinnings of what that line of thinking can do to our Spirits, Spines, and SHIT (help get it all together). The apostles too had their own problems. They were not the strongest folks in town at that table, but this is also not about them either. If I was a Bishop, I would give this cartoonist an award OR have him talk at a convention on Iconography. That would have turned some tables, heads, how about minds, and yes help people see the COVENANT that a Christian presumably carries within (which is respected by the very many, including non-Christians). TOI did not cave in, meaning thats not a cave in--although it appears so. Imagine at least in Goa people ignoring the paper. On the contrary, I believe it meant nothing for them to apologize. This apology is not a double standard vis-a-vis MF Hussian, other pariahs, social lepers, etc., who have hurt the sentiments of other communities--as many see it and say so. The difference in the Lost Supper is that there is nothing that should have offended the most holier than thou Christian. Other than, seeing the general contours of an image in a different light. HAVING SAID THAT, I have more than a faint feeling that it could be only recently that the large number of Indian Christians, MAY have seen the Da Vinci'd Last Supper. This was a sentimental cry for an apology. Apologies are strategic positions. They are perhaps laughing their brains out at the Christians and the hierarchy--Dum vivimus, vivamus** (**Lets us live while we live [[but in the wrong poverty of spirit]]). venantius j pinto From: Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com To: goanet goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] The Lost Supper In 1480s i.e. almost fifteen centuries after Jesus had Last Supper with His Disciples, the Italian artist Leonardo da Vinci painted the world famous Supper on the wall of the refectory of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan. I do not believe that in times when Jesus lived , his disciples could have been dressed in such finery, not to mention the embroidered table cloth etc. etc. So it may not be quite right to consider this painting as a covenant of our good faith. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Killing in the Name -- Rage Against the Machine
*From Arun Aguiar. (vjp) + * *Just Sharing:* A scalper I know (as a p/t West Coast actor) was in the line for Al Pacino in Merchant of Venice at Central Park when I walked by at 2 am, and he excitedly told everyone around him, Man, you should have been at Arlene's Grocery a couple of weeks ago when Avatar (me) did that Rage Against the Machine song -- what is it called? .. .. And to me: I don't know if you know: All 200 people in the house were singing along all through the entire song; and everyone who wasn't, def joined in in the last 2 minutes! I dunno if it was such a good idea to do the song: I'd never tried it before, and afterwards I lost my voice for about 10 days. But when the word got to some of the homeless and other guys in the front of the Merchant of Venice line, they moved me and my found cane-wicker Picasso banjo-like chair up from where I was nearby to POSITION NUMBER ONE, protected it/ me in position as I walked around and about and went for coffee etc etc etc for extended periods until the Public Theatre guards escorted the line into the Park at 6 am as usual [walking away from your spot in the line in the street outside the park, except for a fast bathroom break, usually not-OK] :-) Raise the volume if you listen below, but Please don't try this song in the shower -- it will be hazardous to your health poss shatter yr windows! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY *-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I'm running 4 the Board of WBAI Radio Station **www.stream.Wbai.org*http://www.stream.wbai.org/ * 99.5 fm -- NY member of the **www.Pacifica.org* http://www.pacifica.org/ *network. Here's my (alas, badly formatted) campaign literature: ** http://pacificafoundation.org/cand_page.php?id=339sta=wbai*http://pacificafoundation.org/cand_page.php?id=339sta=wbai * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events
Glad to note that the skin-deep secularists are now exposing themselves on Goanet. Earlier, the argument used to be my bigots are better than your bigots. Now it seems to have shifted to: if you challenge the logic of my bigots, I will target you instead. All while claiming the secular space! FN On 1 August 2010 05:29, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - Dr. Santosh Helekar wrote: At variance with what is posted below, I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a polite and respectful discussion between the lady representative of the extremist Hindu organization, Dr. Jose Pereira and the organizers of the exhibition. The only provocation for confrontation that I saw was from Admin Noronha. I just took a look at the two posted videos. The only piece of hostility there, as Dr. Helekar has noted, came from the anti-Hindu, communal, muckraking, coward-of-a-smear-merchant Frederick Noronha. To the likes of Admin Noronha and his fellow cohorts like the Commie operator Gadgil, only Hindu malfeasance is visible, and they will lie through their pustulated behinds at every opportunity provided by the fringe Hindu rightwing to portray the Hindu Right as the biggest danger since Nazi Germany. At the same time, they will invent every reason possible to whitewash Muslim atrocities. The biggest danger to communal peace in Goa is this breed of dregs, not the Sanatan Saunstha. You can take this to the bank. Now apropos of the video - I completely disagree with the lady representative of the HJS. Hurt feelings is a lame ploy. I say, get tough and get real. Your faith ought not to be so fragile that some paintings somewhere rattles it. You also do not have any right to disrupt a private exhibition funded by private monies. (You may have had a case if public monies were being used, in which case it should apply across the board, to all religions.) Finally, Sri Krishna's amorous impulses and dalliances must be CELEBRATED - and they indeed, are, in song and dance, if these folks knew anything about their own traditions - not denied or kept under wraps. It is a sad commentary on today's Hindus that they have internalized Christian and Muslim prudery to repudiate what is a glorious aspect of their own spiritual and cultural tradition. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] UID for Goan Residents
FN, I submit that sudden changes (esp in demographics) create problems.while gradual and long term contact brings forth some semblance (at the very least) of tolerance. A classic example is the graduated assimilation (acceptance) and development of the Asian community in the UK, US, Canada and even Portugal. The article itself is too long for posting on GN. It has nil to do with the logic referred to ( and inferred) by you infra. jc == Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: JC, I was on the specific point that I find the 'Muslims-from-Goa-good; Muslims-from-outside-Goa-bad' logic to be unconvincing and misleading if not deliberately mischevious. It was in this context that I mentioned the URL of the article below. http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings
I refuse to see this as a Digu-versus-Manohar Parrikar thing. There is little or no difference between the duo, though we might like to image there is. How can two individuals who do business with one another, rule jointly for years (even though their ideology won no mandate), then take up very similar policies (just the business lobbies catered to can be marginally different... but compare their stands on, say, mining) be posited as the options to one another? This is a false dichotomy which one mustn't fall for. Rajendra Kakodkar has made some very insightful and interesting points, noting that Goa's concerns go far, far beyond a meaningless BJP-versus-Congress divide. We have little reason to believe that the mainstream politicial choices on offer are anything of a solution. Even if the media and a few hyperactive individuals in cyberspace would like to polarise things towards this end. FN On 31 July 2010 21:47, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: You are perhaps new to the boards. The way it works is, you are free to start a new thread on issues you care about, on issues you deem important. After all, priorities vary. Admin Noronha does not believe that the builders are doing a number of Goa. He has been denying and/or downplaying the havoc wrought by construction. He would have thought differently if Manohar was in power, but all this destruction under his benevolent prasad-distributor Digu deserves a pass. For 'prasad' always has a sweet smell and it is always secular. When I was investigating the building violations, land conversions etc 3 years ago (on my own nickel and time), his job was to spread the lie that this was a secret BJP operation to discredit his beloved Kangress. He claimed that I had assumed a 'green garb' for the purpose. His tactics are well-known: if you focus your energies battling an issue X, Admin Noronha will come along and ask why you are not doing anything about Y. He tried hard with to smear my telephoto lens but alas, the muck stuck to him instead. He then wept like a baby that I was deflowering his beloved Goanet. But the other mods thought otherwise. So if you must ask the kinds of questions you have above, feel free to direct them to the lying hypocrite Frederick Noronha. You could start by asking him who is subsidizing him to deny the construction madness currently underway in Goa. Turn his own wink-wink-nudge-nudge old maid ways on him, and you will do just fine. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop
I have this proverb in my compilations and probably read on gnet itself ...does it mean less work and more noise Zounnem thoddem, kimchonnem chodd Edward Verdes - Original Message - From: Venantius J Pinto Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop Ami amchem pollovya. Hanv tuji moskori sozmottan ani manun ghetam. : ) Pun torui tinnui gaddi opaaryani zanvoran assat: bukul, bokkod ani mox/mhos (lhansan voddlem zanvor). Holy smokes (Povitr dunvor). Muj'Noxib, zoulem Moxik? Bekar lavnnem, bokodd zonvnnem Doxi lavno bukul zonvnno Maca dita ki poilea pavtti--zou/zonv, hya kriyachem kriyaroop (conjugation) Goanettar stahphit zalam/nirmollan. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] UID for Goan Residents
JC, Your point is self-evident, and cannot be denied. But life is rarely that simple, and there are many other related issues, without raising which we could be living in a fool's paradise. What issues we take up also says more about us and our ideologies, rather than the ground reality. On 1 August 2010 05:08, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: FN, I submit that sudden changes (esp in demographics) create problems.while gradual and long term contact brings forth some semblance (at the very least) of tolerance. A classic example is the graduated assimilation (acceptance) and development of the Asian community in the UK, US, Canada and even Portugal. The article itself is too long for posting on GN. It has nil to do with the logic referred to ( and inferred) by you infra. Since when has length (of on-topic posts) been an issue on Goanet? As the article in question raises so many contentious assumptions, which have a lot to do with our understanding of today and yesterday's Goa, I woud personally really appreciate if you shared the article on Goanet and initiated a discussion. I promise to participate too. It would be nice if such differences in perspective could be thrashed out without name-calling as some indulge in. Well, the article DOES seem to accept (correct me if I'm wrong) that Goan-Muslims-are-good-but-those-guys-(Muslims)-imigrating from ourside are causing the problems! The relevant quotes are below. I think this is a deliberately misleading logic, and it would be interesting to see where such glib (and almost convincing) logic comes from, in today's Goa. FN QUOTE FROM http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm ... Muslims from the surrounding hills and from afar, quietly moved in. These new immigrants neither have the bond nor the village ties that have existed for centuries still continue to exist among native Goans, be they of Hindu, Christian, Muslim or other backgrounds This aggression on the part of the new entrants, and build up of frustration among the hitherto patient Goemcars has been developing at an increasing pace over the past decade. It was like a time bomb waiting to explode. == Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: JC, I was on the specific point that I find the 'Muslims-from-Goa-good; Muslims-from-outside-Goa-bad' logic to be unconvincing and misleading if not deliberately mischevious. It was in this context that I mentioned the URL of the article below. http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Why do Goans love their seasonal monsoon vegetables? (Nandkumar Kamat, NT)
WHY DO GOANS LOVE THEIR SEASONAL MONSOON VEGETABLES? Focussing on ten delicacies of the rains Dr.Nandkumar M. Kamat nandka...@gmail.com --- Originally published in shorter form in The Sunday Panorama, The Navhind Times, Sunday, July 25, 2010. This version modified on July 28, 2010. --- On the morning of Sunday, July 25, the craving began. This year I had not tasted Goa's crunchy pipryos, the finger long vegetable delicacies which we used to munch by the tens as kids with or without the local agarachem (locally farmed) salt, lime juice, chilly or black pepper powder. Occasionally the bitter part would trouble us. My craving took me to Panaji-Ponda road where, after crossing Bhoma and till Farmagudi you see roadside stalls displaying fresh farm produce. I went up to Farmagudi and sampled the green wealth of my red Goan soil. Ten pipryos for Rs. 50 -- the rate was same at every stall and non-negotiable. Like an angler finding his prize catch and hunter his game, I piled up a stack of crunchy pipryos, ridge gourds, snake gourds, local saldati bananas, multicoloured and heavy, grenade-shaped tender bamboo shoots or quills, bitter gourd (karatim) and returned home victorious and satiated. My communion with the fertility principle of my motherland was now complete. Why do Goans love their seasonal monsoon vegetables? It is all in the genes and conditioned by culture, family upbringing. The simplest rule of nutrition is to eat lower down the food chain. That reduces the levels of xenobiotics and toxins entering our bodies. Under the microscope of anthropology and nutritional science, epigenetics and genomics, Goa's traditional foods tell us something unique -- the call of the Goan genes for seasonal delicacies. The current disease burden in Goa shows a clear nutritional disconnect from traditional foods, traditional diets, seasonal food intake. Ecological simplification in Goa matches dietary simplification. Dietary simplification causes genetic simplification and spread of only hybrids and monocultures. Traditional Goan food draws from seasonal food resources. The principle was to combine prebiotics, probiotics, antibiotics by selecting vegetables yielding beneficial phytochemicals. This article stresses on the importance of ten monsoon vegetable delicacies in search of which a true Goan would roam the markets, travel far distances and bargain hard just because his genes dictate his taste buds, his enzymes crave for the ancient substrates. Many vegetables also provide cures for ailments which the body demands. Which are these ten delicacies? These include ferns, grasses, cucurbits, aroids. Let me list them-- the first is an iodine-rich edible fern -- Ankur, scientific name Acrostichum aureum, followed by two species of bamboo-Dendrocalamus strictus and Bambusa bambos -- the tender shoots of which are known as 'quills'. Fourth on my list is Taro or alu -- Colocasia esculenta. Fifth is white amaranthus known as 'dhavi bhaji'. Sixth is Shirmundalechi bhaji, a rare vegetable now exploited for medicinal purposes -- the wild Chlorophytum tuberosum. Seventh on my list are the edible, tasty flowers of Dudi, the Red Pumpkin -- Cucurbita maxima -- a species introduced from Mexico. The last three vegetables belong to Cucurbitaceae family -- Cucumbers (Cucumis sativus), Padwal or Snake Gourd, Trichosanthes cucumerina and the spongy Ghosali or Ridge Gourd, Luffa acutangula. How many traditional preparations Goans make from these ten vegetables? A minimum of 100. Let us take Ankur. It is a fern found in mangrove areas next to the estuaries of Goa. One can see huge stands of Acrostichum near the Guirim byepass and along the Cumbarjua canal. The tender fiddleheads are harvested, made into small bundles and sold. Rich in fibres, vitamins and minerals, well-cooked Ankur is a passport to good health. Goa joins a few select global communities which consume edible ferns. Anthropologically it tells us about the wisdom of our ancestors and first settlers who discovered their use. Bamboos are grasses found in a large belt on earth. But it needs wisdom of thousands of years to identify the edible species, harvest and process them. Tender bamboo shoots contain lethal concentrations and amounts of cyanogenic glucosides which on endogenic hydrolysis yield hydrocyanic acid. Cooking destroys the enzyme responsible for the endogenic hydrolysis to a very large extent. But Goans know the art and science of cutting, soaking, removing the unwanted principle. The tender bamboo shoots which Goans consume are rich in vitamins, cellulose, amino acids and trace elements and fibre. Edible content of a newly harvested tender bamboo shoot is usually 25 to 30 per cent, with smaller shoots yielding a lower percentage
Re: [Goanet] Article : BY THE LIGHT OF SILVERY PETROMAX (for posting on Goanet)
For some interesting lamps (including Aladdin and Austromax) see http://www.oillamps.com.au/ - Original Message From: Tony Fernandes tonfe...@hotmail.com To: goanet goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sun, 1 August, 2010 10:02:18 AM Subject: [Goanet] Article : BY THE LIGHT OF SILVERY PETROMAX (for posting on Goanet) By the light of the Silvery Petromax * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the bleep cares about arriving in England?
Title: Who the bleep cares about arriving in England? By: Selma Carvalho. The following is an extract from my book, Into the Diaspora Wilderness. Earlier in 1958, things had come to a head in Notting Hill. Unemployment, disillusionment, boredom and the summer heat proved to be all the trigger it needed for a trifling incident at a pub to turn into a riot of nigger hunting, vandalising and burning homes. The clashes between the mostly West Indian population and a working class White population were dismissed as delinquent adolescent behaviour by the media, but the seeds of hate were liberally sprinkled on fertile soil. They left an indelible mark on British politics where the race card played well and played often got results. In 1964, Conservative MP Peter Griffiths campaigned in Smethwick for the general election with the slogan: If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour. He won. Dr Edward Raymond D'Sa who first came to the UK from Kenya as a student shares an honest moment with me. He suspects Goans muddled through, not wanting to be seen complaining. They pretended that racism happened to Indians and not Goans. They found consolation in church attendance and endless dances. When discrimination was not overt it existed in its subtler shades. One Goan remembers being called for an interview because of his European sounding name but when he got to the offices, there was a visible look of disappointment on the face of the interviewer to discover he was Asian. Amidst a sense of fear and threat to the British national identity, there emerged the British sense of justice and fair play and found its voice in the liberal press and Labour party politics. Then Labour Home Secretary, Roy Jenkins, in a 1966 speech, radically altered the commonly held notions of assimilation, urging that integration need not be a flattening process of assimilation but equal opportunity, accompanied by cultural diversity in an atmosphere of mutual tolerance. Goans found a different type of segregation in the United Kingdom; that of class. White British saw Asians as replacements for working class British. Asians found themselves pigeon-holed, their expectations and aspirations for their children as future accountants and doctors, laughed at as being ridiculous and unrealistic. Asians for their part, had visions of their children going to school in propah blazers and ties, becoming members of country clubs, living in chocolate-box cottages with rose gardens, but in reality they lived cheek by jowl in run-down, crowded city centres, with working class British; a wide chasm persisting between expectation and reality. Getting job references to start a career was difficult. Their qualifications were either worthless or discredited altogether. Eventually, what greatly aided Goans was Britain's much touted welfare system in housing and health-care. Some even managed to arrange for housing through the welfare system before they arrived in the UK. They were confusing times, turbulent times setting the stage for what it meant to be British in the 20th century and through it all, the newly arrived East African Goans were struggling to find their own feet, let alone their own voice. For more information about the book and/or to order it, go to http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Goa News
E-mail: goanet@lists.goanet.org I would like to receive especially goa news. Please put me in your mailing list. My E-mail ID: to...@rezayat.com.sa Thanks Regards, Tony Fernandes * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development
A great example of entering into endless discussion without reading, understanding and digesting the issue. Moderators and Venatius please note. Below is the issue: what is the definition of cure in cancer? NOT what is cancer?. At first I thought Santosh was trying to misrepresent and or high-jack the subject, which he and few others often do. Now it is confirmed, what I and likely many suspected. It is clear to all that he does not understand the topic being discussed. This is not the first time this has been pointed out. And Santosh is not the exception to this malady. That is what happens with web-surfing and abuse of merely providing web-links. A great example of jack of all trades masquerading as a master. In Konkani it is called petoita murre. This is my last post on this thread. Regards, GL --- Santosh Helekar wrote: Since some spurious confusion regarding cancer has been injected below, here is its clear technical definition from the U.S. National Cancer Institute: QUOTE cancer (KAN-ser) A term for diseases in which abnormal cells divide without control and can invade nearby tissues. Cancer cells can also spread to other parts of the body through the blood and lymph systems. There are several main types of cancer. Carcinoma is a cancer that begins in the skin or in tissues that line or cover internal organs. Sarcoma is a cancer that begins in bone, cartilage, fat, muscle, blood vessels, or other connective or supportive tissue. Leukemia is a cancer that starts in blood-forming tissue such as the bone marrow, and causes large numbers of abnormal blood cells to be produced and enter the blood. Lymphoma and multiple myeloma are cancers that begin in the cells of the immune system. Central nervous system cancers are cancers that begin in the tissues of the brain and spinal cord. Also called malignancy. UNQUOTE --- Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Lets look at the endless posts about Cancer is incurable. If either of the two opponents had read and digested the reams of web-links they posted, the first question they would ask: For which situation (type of cancer and part of the world) does this statement apply? And this is not even getting into technicalities like what is the definition of cure in cancer, etc.. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] CONTROVERSY: Nudity, art, protests and Dr Jose Pereira's work (comment by Damodar Mauzo)
Please, Mr Mauzo, don't give them any ideas, they may really go destroy Khajuraho. And erase the Raas...es from our music/paintings. I think a STRONG ignore by the media and indifference should kill them. they thrive on publicity. Or squash them so hard they will never be able to surface. Either legally or by the people. From: Goanet News CONTROVERSY: Nudity, art, protests and Dr Jose Pereira's work By Damodar Mauzo The objection to the paintings of Dr. Jose Pereira raised by the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti is highly deplorable. In the first place the organization does not represent the Hindu community as such has no right to talk on behalf of the Hindus. A professor of theology, Dr. Jose Pereira is a scholar, musicologist, researcher, polyglot besides a great painter. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] The Lost Supper -- another view (Allwyn Fernandes)
Has any Goan commented on this? Now given the fact that many many share Ancy's sentiments, Allwyn can create his own 'lost supper' preferably with who share his sentiments. Maurice mmdme...@yahoo.ca * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] A Hindu America?
I found this article to be thought-provoking. I hope others share my opinion. Best regards, U. G. Barad A Hindu America? July 24, 2010 Francis X. Clooney, S.J. Source : Catholic Weekly http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2entry_id=3138 Cambridge, MA. I recently came across a column in the On Faith section of the Washington Post by Loriliai Biernacki. A friend of mine, she is a professor of Indian religions at the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a specialist in the study of Hinduism. Her piece is entitled, A rich and strange metamorphosis: Glocal Hinduism. She suggests that Hinduism today is becoming much more widely established in different parts of the world, and it is flourishing in many parts of the United States, both among Americans of Indian ancestry, but also among many converts to Hinduism. In her piece, Bernacki recollects Lisa Miller's essay in Newsweek a few months ago, on how Americans are becoming Hindus ideologically: [Lisa Miller] tells us that an astounding number of Americans now believe in reincarnation. This conceptual, indeed cosmological, importation from Hinduism is seeping indelibly into the American psyche. Even a percentage of self-identified Christians have little difficulty incorporating this Hindu notion. Similarly, the word and concept of 'karma' is so commonly parlayed in everyday conversation that its Hindu origins no longer even register, as the concept finds its way across wide ranges of socio-economic circles and in all sorts of milieus. Biernacki speculates that Hinduism - Hinduisms - is uniquely able to be glocal - present across the globe, but yet still local in a multitude of particular identities. Alas: before our present era of over-centralization, the Catholic Church too excelled at being glocal! http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2entry_id=3138 * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] You have hurt the religious sentiments of Christians by publishing cartoon The Lost Supper on July 25 mumbai edition page 18
To, Mr. Jaideep Bose Editor in Cheif Times of India Dear Sir, Christians are in large number in the readership of Times Of India. But it is unfortunate that you have hurt our religious sentiments by publishing the cartoon THE LOST SUPPER by imitating as if it looks like JESUS and TWELVE apostle. You have made mockery of our religious beliefs. Kindly apologize for the blunder you have created or else we may have to plan a very stringent course of action. You cartoon can be viewed at http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=18pagesizeedidedlabel=TOIMmydateHid=25-07-2010pubnameednamepublabel=TOI which is also attached along with this Lots of Christians have already raised their voices in facebook at http://www.facebook.com/ancypaladka and other places So please act immediately and apologies in tomorrows issue itself or else we will be planning our stringent course of action. Waiting for your immediate action Ancy S DSouza -- Ancy S. D'Souza, Paladka E2-139 Diwan Apt III Vasai Road East Thane Dist - 401 210 Tel: 0250-2390225 Cell: 9320733213, 902898 Email: anc...@gmail.com * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Poor Christians of India and Hindutvawadis - Clergy Missionaries..
Despite marking the above message to Goanet, Mark D'Souza also preferred to send the same message to my personal e-mail address! My response: In fact, Mark you have the best answer to the problems faced by christians and clergy missionaries of India (CMI). In the first place, ask CMI to do exactly what you have written - But blaming the Hindutvawadis for all the problems that Christians face in India will not be justified because the Christian missionaries due to their fraudulent conversion activities are giving an opportunity to the Hindutvawadis to attack Christians. May be if conversions are stopped christians and clergy missionaries of India get relief! Secondly, ask to practice all those points which you have mentioned starting with How nice.. i.e. ask CMI to stop utilizing their foreign funds for the benefit of poor; ask them to stop misusing assets/resources/properties for the benefit of poor; ask CMI to reserve 100 % seats to only christians; ask all Christian Hospitals Charitable Institutions to serve only for poor christians. AND while doing all these also inform CMI to STOP taking all grants/ subsidies/ loans/incentives/ and all other special benefits offered by State(s) as well as by Central government. If these things are done on priority, things will definitely improve much better! In spite of these measures if things don't improve, all CMI must collectively petition all their grievances to President Pratibha Patil Prime Minister Manmohan Singh with a copy to head of upa-2 Sonia Maino Gandhi for immediate action. For sure, all these three great personalities will ensure immediate solution to all the problems of poor christian minorities and christian missionaries of India. This is more so because India government CARES more for minorities! Best regards, U. G. Barad * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] UID for Goan Residents Communal Riots break Out in Goa (2006)
re: The article itself is too long for posting on GN. Frederick Noronha wrote: Since when has length (of on-topic posts) been an issue on Goanet? As the article in question raises so many contentious assumptions, which have a lot to do with our understanding of today and yesterday's Goa, I woud personally really appreciate if you shared the article on Goanet and initiated a discussion. I promise to participate too. RESPONSE: Even though this very same article was rejected by GN (for being too long) on March 31, 2006, in response to the above, I am re-sending it herewith. Criticism is always welcome. http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFCommunalRiots.htm Communal Riots break Out in Goa TGF March 26, 2006 As expected, communal riots broke out in Goa; NOT between Goan Hindus and the folks, the communal among the Goan Hindus love to Hate i.e. the Goan Catholics, BUT between Hindus and Muslims. Decades of discriminatory and anti-Catholic actions by successive post 1961 Goa Governments (especially the MGP and BJP ones) resulted in Goan Catholics to leaving Goa - many, for good. As the Goan Catholics started to exit in droves, their homes (esp in South Goa) remained empty. The resultant vacuum enabled squatters to virtually stroll in. While, the Goan Hindu communalists (BJP/MGP) were busy perpetrating their anti-Catholic ethnic cleansing communal agenda, Muslims from the surrounding hills and from afar, quietly moved in. These new immigrants neither have the bond nor the village ties that have existed for centuries still continue to exist among native Goans, be they of Hindu, Christian, Muslim or other backgrounds. A tradition of mutual understanding and tolerance developed between Goan Hindus, Catholics and Muslims during the second half of the Portuguese rule of Goa. No such culture of mutual understanding or tolerance exists among the violent new entrants. It is a race to grab land, home or whatever they can lay their hands on. Those who come from a background of scarcity and dacoity, are unlikely to understand the desire of Goans to continue their traditionally tolerant and peaceful existence. The thugs come from a culture where the more violent and aggressive dog was destined to get the bone. This aggression on the part of the new entrants, and build up of frustration among the hitherto patient Goemcars has been developing at an increasing pace over the past decade. It was like a time bomb waiting to explode. As predicted, the communal riots erupted. And ...there is more to come. Take a good look, Goans, at Margao and Navelim in South Goa! As the saying goes: you ain't seen nuttin yet! The culture of zhalacch pahije and dadagiri which was perpetrated by the Bandodkar MGP took a heightened dimension during the recent rule of the Parrikar BJP. The Parrikar BJP must ask itself if did or did not, actively or passively further a culture of violent disorder, vandalism and politically motivated attacks on non-violent Goans. Did Parrikar BJP flex or did it not flex official muscle against those who peacefully opposed the policies of the Goa BJP?. If it did, would the BJP say that it was a democratic or 'liberated' way of handling peaceful opposition? Throughout all this, the former Chief Minister Parrikar appeared to play the fiddle (like Nero) in public, while reportedly packing the police force with cronies and saffron sympathisers. All that these police chaps famously are reported to have done is look the other way while the vandalistas went on their rampage. Wonder how good the vandalistas are feeling now about their rampage. Wonder how good Parrikar is feeling now about the vandalism that was condoned during his tenure as Chief Minister. The so called Goa Press? Well, the less we say about the lackeys in the Goa Press, the better. They have been silent and self serving facilitators of this chaos by their very convenient fence sitting excuse for journalism. There were a few Goa journalists who stood out in exception to these GLC (Government Lackey Corps) and dared to be different -. TGF recognises their immeasurable worth to Goa and Goans. They are the reason for hope in the future. A vibrant press always keeps a Government in check, especially when a no-good Opposition is in a sham existence. What did the Goa Catholic Church do whilst this virulent anti-Catholic scenario was unfolding over the past few decades? Nothing more than leave the faithful and the regularly vandalised churches to the mercy of the violent elements. Thank you, Goa Catholic Church. Thank You for nothing! TGF expects no real change from the Goa Catholic Church. The pomp and ceremony will continue and the lost souls will remain lost. It is almost as though the life of Christ was about pomp and ceremony. Successive Goa governments have sat impotently while the Indian Navy took away Dabolim and Anjediva; and yet, the same defense needs of the country could have been realised with a little tact, consultation and
Re: [Goanet] Germany: In the grip of multiculturalism (Devika Sequeira, DH)
Thanks to abortion, the pill and other contraceptive methods, the birth rate in most western countries is around 1.1 to 1.3. In Canada, a Catholic province, Quebec, has a negative birth rate so much so, in order to preserve the French language, the previous Premier of the Province was offering women Cdn.$5,000 (some 2.1 lakhs rupees) to have a child. Quebec has the highest abortion rate, the lowest birth rate but, to go along with this, also the highest suicide rate across Canada. Because of the drastic drop in population in most western countries, the tax base was also dropping and there were not enough workers to fill all the dirty jobs that most Caucasians were not prepared to do. The result - immigration - mostly from Muslim countries. Muslims have a birth rate of some 8.1 to 8.3 and, in some 25+ years, they will be the majority population in most western countries. They will start to occupy prominent political positions in Government and elsewhere and will no doubt push for their most brutal sharia law to be introduced. They are already doing so in Britain. This is the reason for the population shift in Germany and elsewhere. Phil. P. From: Goanet News There are more trees than people in Berlin, our guide tells us. It underscores Germany's increasing concern with the demographic imbalance in a greying society. But on the streets of Berlin, it is the ghosts of Germany's dark past that appear to suffuse the sprawling, beautiful city even at the peak of a very hot summer. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] CONTROVERSY: Nudity, art, protests and Dr Jose Pereira's work (comment by Damodar Mauzo)
Kindly print this letter in the goanet. best wishes, Rose. Dr Jose Pereira Hats off to Dr Jose Pereira. I have read about him, and saw on utube, the way he quotes ancient sanscrit verses, in an incredible, recitativo manner. He is a Great and Unique personality, a Very Gifted , Learned, and Highly Cultured Man, and I am in absolute admiration of Him. No one in Goa or wherever, should be offended by his Art. As has been said, the very temples in Khajurao and etc, depict much more 'nudity'...if we want to use that term,; Even some of the paintings in the Vatican have this feature, but all this is Art. The perfection of the human body, is one of the greatest works of art, and an artist sees it this way. All part of God's glory. Mr Pereira, my best Wishes to You. rosemora...@hotmail.it Rome Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] SBS Dateline | The Hindu Heavies
Goanetters, Here's a story about the Shiv Sena. http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/about/id/600652/n/The-Hindu-Heavies RubyGoes * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] The Lost Supper -- another view (Allwyn Fernandes)
Well I am not upset. I feel the Last Supper was not about food only, it was about sharing, and being part of the Body of Christ. The depiction of the Last Supper, as we are familiar with is a painting by Leonardo da Vinci, in which he depicted the event in a way he wanted, or visualised his ideas. It is said that the said depiction is not as described in the Gospel. In the cartoon the Lost Supper, I do not find anything, against my beliefs. In fact it gives an opportunity for us to look at our (including those depicted in the cartoon) own hipocrisy. Francisco Xavier. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] News from Kuwait dated 01.08.2010
Please find attached NEWS PHOTOS dated 01 Aug 2010. Regards, Gasper Crasto / Kuwait Tel. 00965 99502686 click http://gaspersworld.blogspot.com/ * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] No CBI come what may
U. G. Barad wrote : Does any Goanet member have any idea why exactly government is reluctant in initiating CBI probe when the very same government has handed over Manohar Parrikar and Babush?s cases to CBI for investigations! U. G. Barad Comments : Camilo Fernandes The only logical conclusion as to why the Goa Government headed by the cunning CM, Digambar, is reluctant to order a CBI probe is that it has something to hide or shelter the culprits. The opposition members in the Assembly alongwith sincere Congressmen who want to make Goa a better place and save it from the drug syndicate should all join together in demanding this probe. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] A school fable
Caitan, a young boy studying in an Anjuna School came home one day and the whole day began muttering what sounded like, Some-a -beech, some-a-beech,.. Now this perturbed his father, Jose, who had been abroad and worked as a tar (sailor, probably derived from the Konkani 'tarvotti?') and who knew the meaning of 'son of a b1.' So he decided to visit the school the next day and find out what was going on in the school which was meant to educate his son and give value for the pricey fees that he was paying. The next day, Jose went to the school and gave the Principal a good lecture about the school not doing its work educating his son and teaching him undesirable stuff, and told him what Caitan had been muttering the whole day. The perplexed Principal called the teacher to the office and asked her to explain what Caitan had learnt in school to make him mutter bad words at home. The teacher was equally puzzled till she realized the previous day, she had been teaching Caitan's class Math and had made them recite, 1+1, the sum of which is two, 2+2, the sum of which is four, .. I decided to narrate this fable because I thought that my college friend and country man, FL, had mistaken the initials of some of which for SOB :P ++ Re: [Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com The eternal ungrateful SOBs .Eh Fred?? I mean the ones that pee on the plate that feeds them. One IIT zombie who was hammering copper pots in Khorlim/Mapusa thought that copper pot hammering IIT was the highest end of the deal. And then he fell down and broke to pieces just like humpty dumpty which these ungrateful SOBs from UK to America want to put back again but can't. For better luck, these should imbibe some potent colo-rectal stuff imported from UK. -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] A school fable
Not much to do. What else? :-) f - Original Message - From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com To: Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994 goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: [Goanet] A school fable Caitan, a young boy studying in an Anjuna School came home one day and the whole day began muttering what sounded like, Some-a -beech, some-a-beech I decided to narrate this fable because I thought that my college friend and country man, FL, had mistaken the initials of some of which for SOB :P ++ Re: [Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com The eternal ungrateful SOBs .Eh Fred?? * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop
Eddie. This is a gem. Zounnem thoddem, kimchonnem chodd Literal interpretations: Lack of coital activity (1. on the part of the man 2. the act as a whole), much squealing (1. moaning from the side of the woman 2. the collective hullabaloo--is it good, is it good, and positive responses that ring into infinity). 3A. The sexual act as a whole ( between man and woman), lacking in substance, rhythm, style and an ability to sustain rapture--through spiritual or baser means. 3B. The partner however responds as though her mate is delivering par excellence when it may not be the case, for her/their own reasons. Or she is happy, need less stimulation to arrive, and it is what it is for her. Women are often accused (said about sex workers) of making it appear they are feeling immensely pleasured, while the man is barely even doing anything, or just getting started too, or even remotely up to it. But, individuals have their own thresholds too. Now of course, one is not assuming that men are all that, guess the word is virile, and that women are lacking in the grace of receiving, of initiating, being vivacious--conjugal, and otherwise, or are just more seasoned, as also not lowering their guard.. venantius j pinto In my earlier post it should have been dista and not dita: Maca dista ki poilea pavtti--zou/zonv, hya kriyachem kriyaroop (conjugation) Goanettar stahphit zalam/nirmollan. From: Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop I have this proverb in my compilations and probably read on gnet itself ...does it mean less work and more noise Zounnem thoddem, kimchonnem chodd Edward Verdes * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] You have hurt the religious sentiments of Christians by publishing cartoon The Lost Supper on July 25 mumbai edition page 18
Dear FriendOne knows what is last super when you read the bible. The picture of the last super is itself imaginary.We cannot afford to become fanatics and in broadmindedness we should try to find out, discover what is hidden in the lost super and you will get the wonder of the cartoon .Learn to appreciate the asthetic sense in a drawing instead of brooding over and becoming sentimental. Jesus Christ was never a sentimental person but always looked at the wider horizon and that is why he forgave the lady caught committing adultery. Let us learn like modern philosophers and not ancient fanatics. albert ike Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 10:15:29 -0400 From: anc...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] You have hurt the religious sentiments of Christians by publishing cartoon The Lost Supper on July 25 mumbai edition page 18 To, Mr. Jaideep Bose Editor in Cheif Times of India Dear Sir, Christians are in large number in the readership of Times Of India. But it is unfortunate that you have hurt our religious sentiments by publishing the cartoon THE LOST SUPPER by imitating as if it looks like JESUS and TWELVE apostle. You have made mockery of our religious beliefs. Kindly apologize for the blunder you have created or else we may have to plan a very stringent course of action. You cartoon can be viewed at http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=18pagesizeedidedlabel=TOIMmydateHid=25-07-2010pubnameednamepublabel=TOI which is also attached along with this Lots of Christians have already raised their voices in facebook at http://www.facebook.com/ancypaladka and other places So please act immediately and apologies in tomorrows issue itself or else we will be planning our stringent course of action. Waiting for your immediate action Ancy S DSouza -- Ancy S. D'Souza, Paladka E2-139 Diwan Apt III Vasai Road East Thane Dist - 401 210 Tel: 0250-2390225 Cell: 9320733213, 902898 Email: anc...@gmail.com * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] The Lost Supper -- another view (Allwyn Fernandes)
Dear ReaderThe last super drawn by Leonard de vinci is not a religious item . If he could draw the last super i do not find anything wrong in the cantoon the lost super. The picture of Jesus in Leonard's vinci is not the real jesus' picture as there was no photography available during those days and so no one has seen the real picture of Jesus at the last super and so that picture drawn by vincy is imaginary and cannot be treated as religious holy pictures. so why make a big noise about the lost super ? If leonard de vincy could draw the last super I feel that lost super can also be drawn/ albert Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 09:51:30 -0400 From: mmdme...@yahoo.ca To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Lost Supper -- another view (Allwyn Fernandes) Has any Goan commented on this? Now given the fact that many many share Ancy's sentiments, Allwyn can create his own 'lost supper' preferably with who share his sentiments. Maurice mmdme...@yahoo.ca * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] A Hindu America?
On 1 August 2010 15:11, U. G. Barad udayba...@gmail.com wrote: I found this article to be thought-provoking. I hope others share my opinion. Best regards, U. G. Barad A Hindu America? [Lisa Miller] tells us that an astounding number of Americans now believe in reincarnation. This conceptual, indeed cosmological, importation from Hinduism is seeping indelibly into the American psyche. Even a percentage of self-identified Christians have little difficulty incorporating this Hindu notion. Similarly, the word and concept of 'karma' is so commonly parlayed in everyday conversation that its Hindu origins no longer even register, as the concept finds its way across wide ranges of socio-economic circles and in all sorts of milieus. Biernacki speculates that Hinduism - Hinduisms - is uniquely able to be glocal - present across the globe, but yet still local in a multitude of particular identities. Alas: before our present era of over-centralization, the Catholic Church too excelled at being glocal! http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2entry_id=3138 QUESTION: Are only Hindus allow to reincarnate, or is it that every human can reinacrnate? Dr. Barad, what does your inner self tell you, what were you before you became Barad. Respectfully, -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Threaded Adornment: Four Centuries of English Embroidery_Philadelphia Museum
Threaded Adornment: Four Centuries of English Embroidery July 10, 2010 - spring 2011 Philadelphia Museum of Art http://www.philamuseum.org/exhibitions/417.html ++ vjp * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development
The post quoted below reveals a confusion between providing references, as in technical or scholarly writing, and the simple requirement to enclose copied and pasted material from the internet in quotes, with a link to the website from where it is lifted. Those who place pilfered text verbatim in their posts, creating the impression that it is their own, are taking a huge risk. No amount of miscued excuses like those in the post below will protect them. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Venatius, I read your recent interesting post on this thread (I think) requesting references. Your's has been a POLITE and WELL ARTICULATED article making the case to provide references in posts. So I extend you the courtesy of a polite response in requesting you to consider the following points. 1. Writing a response to a post on goanet (or in a blog) is like writing a letter-to-the-editor. By-and-large, do you see any references in letters to-the-editor published in Goan, Indian or international newspapers and magazines? * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings
To Goanet - Frederick Noronha wrote: Rajendra Kakodkar has made some very insightful and interesting points... In fact, Kakodkar's points in his last post were trivial. If there was anything insightful or interesting in them, it was not visible to the naked eye. But what is clearly visible is the fact that you are trying hard to suck up to Rajendra. It is the sight of a man flushed down the toilet trying to hold on to every available straw on his way down to the septic tank. One thing though - Rajendra has thus far in the space of a couple of posts REPORTED FAR NORE NEWS with specifics about the collusion between miners and politicos than you have in your entire pathetic faux-journalistic career. Regards, r * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Scholar, writer, artist, musicologist, linguist... (Maria Aurora Couto, on Dr. Jose Pereira)
SCHOLAR, WRITER, ARTIST, MUSICOLOGIST, LINGUIST... An appreciation of the work of Dr. Jose Pereira By Maria Aurora Couto couto.aur...@gmail.com [Text of a speech delivered at the launch of the book 'Song of Goa' at the Hotel Mandovi, Panjim, July 30, 2010.] I feel inadequate in this role of having to present an overview of the career of Dr Jose Pereira -- scholar, writer, artist, musicologist, linguist -- whose life's work has been devoted to an exploration of the interaction between India and the West in art and culture, starting with Goa and its Latin Christianity as centre point but Indian history and culture as the matrix of artistic expression. This point of view was expressed by the fearless and peerless Jose in Lisbon in the 1950s when he was Adjunct Professor of East-West Cultural Relationships at the Instituto Superior de Estudos Ultramarinos. Of course, this viewpoint was unacceptable to the authorities there; he had to leave his teaching post and get out of Lisbon immediately. I feel inadequate because it is Alban who should have been performing this role and I find myself having to fill his shoes -- too large for me. And so there will be large gaps for I do not possess the scholarly knowledge and philosophical profundity of Jose and Alban. Although Alban's work in government took him in a different direction, they kept up the life of the mind and conversations that they had begun as undergraduate students, a conversation that has been an inspiration and an education for me as listener. Jose's capacity for concentrated work was evident from the start when he combined studying for B.A. (Hons.) in Sanskrit, (1951) at Siddharth College with a full time course at the J.J.School of Art and then opted for a Ph.D. in Ancient Indian History and Culture, University of Bombay(1958). Although I first met Jose when Alban was posted in Goa in 1962, I got to know him well when he spent time with us in Delhi before joining as Research Associate in the History of Indian Art, at The American Academy of Benares, Varanasi (1967-1969). After which he joined as Professor of Theology, Fordham University, New York. Dr Pereira has published more than 20 books and over 130 articles on theology, history of art and architecture, and on Goan and culture, Konkani language and music. I recall with nostalgic pleasure our conversations at the time including about the economics of running a home. He was engaged to be married and his spartan approach to life (No Lux soap only Sunlight will do! No butter, no jam, I can dip bread in my tea) infuriated me and in great agitation I advised him not to get married. I dare not reveal to you the violence of our disagreements. As I said yesterday at the Xavier Centre, Jose though married and a father of five children, has led a monastic life and I think we should specially applaud Sofia, his daughter who is sensitive to her father's extraordinary gifts, and brought him to Goa in 2008 to unveil the fresco in Fatorda and this time to exhibit his latest work. I recall him talking in awe of Hagya Sofia, the Cathedral in Istanbul and Alban and he discussing the intricacies and spirituality of Byzantine art. So it was no surprise when he called his first-born Sofia. We need to give her a special round of applause for the dedicated love and patient care with which she sustains her father during these trips. You must excuse me for being personal but I cannot talk about Dr Pereira without recalling the debates at home when quotations from St Thomas Aquinas, and St Augustine, Greek tragedy and Shakespeare, William Blake and Gerald Manley Hopkins, Greek philosophy and Roman orators and historians and reigning supremely, Dante, always Dante, were sort of flung at each other until Jose put a stop to it all with a long quotation in Sanskrit which he then proceeded to translate. Glorious memories I treasure. Indeed I have known Jose much more as a scholar than as an artist whom Alban knew better. I repeat what I said yesterday that this belated recognition of Dr Jose Pereira points to a certain indifference in our society to scholarship. We call ourselves an enlightened and modern society and yet gifted intellectuals or scholarly work is largely ignored. This was not always the case, but this slow descent into a form of decadence (which started much before Liberation) has to be studied and understood in order to encourage aspiration in our youth. I am delighted that Goa,1556 and Broadway Books have organized this function [July 30, 2010] not a moment too soon. Jose is known in Goa for his work on the Konkani language and for his books on the Mando, but less for his seminal work on Baroque architecture and
Re: [Goanet] 'Communal Riots break Out in Goa'
AUGUST 01, 2010 TO, THE AUTHOR TGF Re: 'Communal Riots break Out in Goa' Dear Sir, Reading the concerned article on Goannet of date, and the article itself, which dates back to March 26, 2006, gave me a Goose bumps, as well an apprehension as to what is in store for the Goans of today and of tomorrow. The Article is well written piece by the author, subjective as well informative in nature, as to what happened in that particular year of 2006 in Goa, which also applies to the present can be said is 'AN EYE OPENER' for all Peace Loving Goans. In retrospection of the article, I must say, it is a reminder for things to come and that are in store for the Goans, if one does not realize now before it is too late to do something daring and bold. Come out in the open and challenge the Government and its nexuses, who are out to destroy Goa in every conceivable they can think of and take over the state for their own Selfish Motives and Gains. Fight these be..so out for good, maybe even on the street, battles with daggers, knives, bombs, swords, guns, what have you. Opposition and rebelling against the corrupt may pave the way for good and good for all, even at ones sacrifice for its native land, which is more precious than Gold and diamonds can buy OR Else every Goan will have to forget about their land and stay as a paying Guest in the own house. My voice to Goan brothers and sisters, irrespective of social standings in society, come out and raise your slogans, dispel these daemons of corrupted sycophants thinkers and burn them down or a day shall come we all Goans and their next Gen will forever live as slaves and in bondage in their our own homes. ONE MORE THING TO PONDER ABOUT: Reading the entire subject on the 'Controversy: On Dr. Jose Pereira's Paintings and watching the Video Clips was interesting. What was not, the reading the clips on JSS, which is slowly but surely is emerging its Serpent Head in disguise. Trying to spew out its deadly venom on the Social, Cultural, Moral, rational fabrics and its heritages of the Goans and its Religion. What these fanatics do not know and realize, is that the World is watching them closely and monitoring their every move and every nefarious activities in every nook and corner of this country. If they do beyond mend their ways and change their outlook then a time will they will be smothered in their own den. The JSS must understand and think rationally, that every man has they own life to lead and live harmoniously and peacefully and as they please, irrespective which land, village or state he or she belongs and that no one has the right to impose their own rules, regulations or culture or for that matter even religion on others. In short; what I want to convey to these so called JSS people, to mind their own business and meddle not in others or else sooner or later the JSS will have to pay a heavy price. What ever good one does always remain in people’s heart and what ever bad ones do soon vanishes. So JSS think wisely like the Old probable and Wise Owl, the Older he grew him wiser he became, Silent he sat the more he learnt. In the Good interest of the Goan People. Sam Furtado * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development
The post quoted below reveals a confusion between providing references, as in technical or scholarly writing, and the simple requirement to enclose copied and pasted material from the internet in quotes, with a link to the website from where it is lifted. Those who place pilfered text verbatim in their posts, creating the impression that it is their own, are taking a huge risk. No amount of miscued excuses like those in the post below will protect them. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Venatius, I read your recent interesting post on this thread (I think) requesting references. Your's has been a POLITE and WELL ARTICULATED article making the case to provide references in posts. So I extend you the courtesy of a polite response in requesting you to consider the following points. 1. Writing a response to a post on goanet (or in a blog) is like writing a letter-to-the-editor. By-and-large, do you see any references in letters to-the-editor published in Goan, Indian or international newspapers and magazines? * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Rise of Goa’s Cultural Censors
Rise of Goa’s Cultural Censors Published on: August 2, 2010 - 00:07 (Courtesy:-The Navhind Times, Goa, Monday, August 2, 2010) Original article weblink:- http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/rise-goa-s-cultural-censors *By Nandkumar Kamat** *Any serious student and practitioner of Hinduism who has cared to learn about the personality, life, work and scholarship of one of the greatest Goans of all times, Indologist Dr Jose Pereira would not agree with the intimidatory methods adopted by self-styled cultural censors of Goa who claim to represent the Hindus. The Governor of this state needs to take a serious view of this entire matter and send his confidential report to the President of India and also intervene immediately and proactively to correct the lethargy of the constitutionally established state of Goa in consistently neglecting, and at times, indirectly encouraging such acts of intimidation against artists and scholars. The police and administration of Goa is yet to prove its neutral and secular character. The government of Goa owes an apology to Dr Jose Pereira who has not visited Goa to get such ridiculous treatment in the name of safeguarding religious sensitivities. Dr Pereira, now crossing 80 years, is a victim of Parkinson’s disease. He has full right to be treated with respect, dignity and honour. The police of Goa had no business to judge the works of art and order removal of paintings. It was a knee-jerk reaction especially when the assembly was in session and the whereabouts of the Home Minister were not known. We are not under Taliban rule to be told about the alleged telephonic threats of decapitation which Dr Jose Pereira has received. Issuing a threat to a scholar’s life and the silence of the police and Home Department on this matter is a sign of things to come - the boost to Goa’s self-styled cultural censors. Hinduism, a multicultural ecosystem This is a very serious matter which should have occupied prime attention of the assembly in session because people of Goa have elected the 40 representatives to safeguard their mandate under our Constitution. To me, after 40 years of deep and still-evolving contemplation, rich spiritual insights, Hinduism is not just another religion but an entire religious, multicultural ecosystem. It is like an ever-growing, expanding Banyan tree with myriads of microhabitats within its folds. It is not so shallow and superficial so as to get offended by nude artwork representing epical, puranic and mythological entities. Its fathomless spiritual and philosophical depth is its greatest strength. This is offset by rising cultural schizophrenia so aptly commented by Wendy Doniger in her monumental treatise - ‘The Hindus’ - An Alternative History (2009). It is a text which every modern Indian Hindu needs to read seriously as an external scholarly peer review by an American non-Hindu Sanskrit scholar and Indologist. The painting from Orissa on the jacket of Wendy’s book too would have offended the self-appointed moral conscience keepers of Goa’s Hindus. It shows Lord Krishna riding a figure of horse made by topless dancing women. Doniger has made an interesting comment on this painting and therein lies the answer to understand the nude mythological figures in some of Dr Pereira’s works. Doniger says - “The glorious horse that graces the jacket of the book is an example of contribution of a foreign culture to Hinduism since composite animals of this type came from Persia and entered India with the Mughals, and an example of the intersection of court and village, as the image travelled from the Mughal court in Delhi to a village in the state of Orissa. It is an image of women almost certainly painted by a man. Depicting Lord Krishna as the rider on the horse makes the Muslim image a Hindu image and the rider on the horse is an enduring Hindu metaphor for the mind controlling the senses, in this case harnessing the sexual addiction excited by naked women. This multivocal masterpiece is, like Hinduism, a collage made of individual pieces that fit together to make something far more wonderful than any of them.” The self-styled censors The self-styled censors are overworking to destroy this collage and scatter the pieces. Is it not an irony that the only scholarly scientific research work of high merit on pre-Portuguese Hindu temple architecture and sculptures, hero and Sati stones, caves and man-made cave temples of Goa should come from a non-Hindu German Indologist, Prof Gritli Mitterwalner? The self-styled cultural censors would have objected to her discovery of an ancient temple at Taide, Sanguem depicting a sexual scene. But because of rational scholars like her, Hinduism has immensely benefitted. This is also the lesson from the Indian renaissance post-Raja Rammohan Roy. If the government gives a free hand to cultural censors of Goa then it would be impossible to host an International Sanskrit conference or Indology conferences here because the censors would
Re: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop
Addendum to the last part: ...and also that they (women) would also sooner relieve themselves of the dead weight settled limply, and lazily--off of their bodies. Btw, an old one that came through one of the most gentle Goans I know. Zhonvtolo zhonvon gelo, bankar nidhleleacho annd katorlo. The same was also shared by another Goan European a few years ago: Zhonvnaro zhonvon gelo, sopear nidhleleacho annd katorlo. These point to a man suspecting a woman of infidelity, engaged in an illicit relationship, and in rage (impotent or otherwise) for resaon including those mentioned--scalping off innocent privates. venantius j pinto From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unusual proverb? Doxeo_Zonvop (DEL) Women are often accused (said about sex workers) of making it appear they are feeling immensely pleasured, while the man is barely even doing anything, or just getting started too, or even remotely up to it. But, individuals have their own thresholds too. Now of course, one is not assuming that men are all that, guess the word is virile, and that women are lacking in the grace of receiving, of initiating, being vivacious--conjugal, and otherwise, or are just more seasoned, as also not lowering their guard.. * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great m#234;l#233;e that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Rise of Goa’s Cultural Censors
To Goanet - I agree with the spirit and substance of this opinion piece by Dr. N. Kamat. What I find odd is the citing of Wendy Doniger, a known Hindu baiter masquerading as an academic. Really, Hindus should get over this habit of quoting white folks on matters pertaining to their own traditions, especially white folks in prestigious universities in America the West. Not all white folks are automatically suspect, of course. But it pays to be vigilant. This may shed some light on Doniger and her cohort - http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/post/2002/09/risa-lila-1-wendy-s-child-syndrome.htm Also, today my friend Dr. Arun Gupta posted this. And Wolpert of UCLA is considered by some as an authority. I know of many white experts in Indian music who are anything but. But if you can wangle a position at Harvard you automatically have Indians worshipping at your feet. (*) http://arunsmusings.blogspot.com/2010/07/wolpertisms.html Now it is true that these folks in the American academy are powerful, and they have cultivated brown sepoys to carry water for them. Anybody objecting to their shenanigans is readily labeled right wing Hindutva and so on (Admin Noronha et al are the low level foot soldiers in this brigade). (*) Note that my comments apply to what are considered the Humanities depts. The faculty at Science Engineering depts in top US universities is usually at or near the top of their game. Regards, r * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great m#234;l#233;e that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development
This outburst from Gilbert is understandable considering the obvious fact that what he had written had nothing to do with the issue at hand, as referred to by Bosco and Venantius. Please note the following response by Bosco, for instance, to the irrelevant post by Gilbert in this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg45880.html Quite predictably, Gilbert is now misinforming you that I don't know anything about cancer, and that I haven't read or don't understand what I read on this topic on the internet and elsewhere. Nobody should be fooled by this, and by his inappropriate use of the word abuse to describe those who diligently provide weblinks and references for the information they provide, especially if it is a verbatim quote from someone else. It should also be clear to most sensible people that because of my formal medical education I should know more about cancer than Gilbert does about Goan history, history of the inquisition, history of Tipu Sultan, and world economics, all topics on which he has pontificated on Goanet without having any formal background in these fields, and without providing any sources for his baseless speculations, even when repeatedly asked to do so. BTW, I apologize for inadvertently leaving out the definition of cure, as provided by the U.S. National Cancer Institute (NCI), from my earlier attempt to clarify the confusion injected by Gilbert about cancer. Here it is now at the same NCI website I had provided in my earlier post: QUOTE cure To heal or restore health; a treatment to restore health. UNQUOTE http://www.cancer.gov/dictionary/?CdrID=318813 I had also provided earlier on Goanet a more quantitative definition of cancer cure based on my critical reading, understanding and study of the latest original papers on cancer epidemiology by international experts such as Herman Brenner. Please see the following link for that earlier post of mine: http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg51546.html From past experience I know that it is unlikely that Gilbert would be able to add anything substantive to this discussion. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: At first I thought Santosh was trying to misrepresent and or high-jack the subject, which he and few others often do. Now it is confirmed, what I and likely many suspected. It is clear to all that he does not understand the topic being discussed. This is not the first time this has been pointed out. And Santosh is not the exception to this malady. That is what happens with web-surfing and abuse of merely providing web-links. A great example of jack of all trades masquerading as a master. In Konkani it is called petoita murre. This is my last post on this thread. Regards, GL * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development
--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Please note the following response by Bosco, for instance, to the irrelevant post by Gilbert in the thread in question: http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg45880.html The above link is not the correct one, although it is an accurate description of the problem with Gilbert's posts on Goanet. The correct link to Bosco's post that I was referring to, is: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-July/196781.html Cheers, Santosh * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development (Final response to U. G. Barad)
My responses to Agnelo Pinhero, fond of shifting goal posts (second attempt), are as follows: Agnelo Pinheiro in message: 6, dated: Tus, 27 Jul 2010 wrote: You tired to confuse the readers by mixing it with conversion and then you came with malicious contents to defame the Christian Catholic. Just as Saffron colour is working in Indian Press, so also some other colours work in New York Times and other Western Media. My response: Your above lines strongly indicate that you found what I had written to be true but with bitter taste. Yes TRUTH is always BITTER and will continue to be bitter! After experiencing bitter taste, you preferred to abuse and name-calling i.e. When it did not fit your requirements you preferred to call them Saffron and other colours to Times Magazine and Western Media. If you really want to blameblame those clergy involved in scandals after scandals... Not me. And if you still continue blaming me I would only say I care a straw for your accusations. Considering your NUMB nature horse with blinker attitude I conclude right at this point. Best regards, U. G. Barad * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Cansaulim GBA meet - Report
Thank you Floriano Bab and Dr Dumo for attending last night's meeting and sharing your observations and thoughts for all. I can imagine it must have been quite late by the time you got home and yet you shared this with all. Likewise to everyone else who attended - you stood up to be counted and speak out for Cansaulim, Goa and Goans. An invitation was extended to Digambar and the Leader of the Oppostion. While an auto-reply from CMs e-mail id acknowledges that the message will be passed on to his office there was no peep nor squeak from either of these worthy gentlemen nor would they show up for a small meeting in a village where Goans want their Government to listen to them! It helps to impose Section 144 and keep the villagers from coming to the Assembly to voice their opinion. Where does anyone have time for Goans nowadays when you can set about busying yourself promoting the interests of Builders, Casinos, Miners, drug dealers, SEZ, Airport, sea-links and other such humungous con-schemes? For that unholy alliance of that scam-bag/scum bag the unworthy MLA of Cortalim Constituency and a disgraceful grand-son of Cansaulim village, his cousin Aggie Alcacoas of the Queeny Realty and other scandals fame (ask the GFA and the Kuwaitcars) that has now set about finishing Cansaulim through the Queeny Meadows projects in Arrossim village and the Gonsalves-Dias Gates Project and his dirty mongrels Aboobakr Shaikh they' better think twice before intimidating old men like Inac-Xavier, old widows, and even Fr. Randall Barretto. As you said conspicious by his absence was Matanhy Saldanha although the invitation was extended to him and many others. In fact his silence on all these projects in his village namely the Gonsalves-Dias Gates Project, Queeny Meadows in Arrossim fields, hoards of Hotels that are coming up along the coastal belt of Arrossim and Cansaulim that will further damage and cause coastal erosions while our Good Government then goes with their begging bowl for funds that they can siphon off, our Khazan lands that will forever be destroyed and forever change the landscape of our villages and Goa. Matanhy Saldanha has the time to attend meetings in the Mapusa Market but not for his own villagers that are being harassed. Attached below are some photographs from joegoauk who captured snap-shots of the meeting as well as the Gonsalves-Dias Gates Project that is destroying Cansaulim thanks to Aboobakr Shaikh who has Mauvin Godinho at a public forum warn the villagers not to stand in the development that Aboobakr Shaikh and Guilford D'Costa has for Cansaulim! Shame on Fr. Valmiki and his brother Stuart for destroying the village , betraying their own flesh and blood and courting this unholy alliance! You'll see the Khazan lands and fields in Cansaulim now converted to a monstrosity of a sports building after filling up the fields! They are working to destroy our land, our villages - let's stand together and fight them as one! It's time we Goans stand up for ourselves and not expect the 40 thieves to work any miracles for us! Do they care for us - no! * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Millionaire in beggars' home
Millionaire in beggars' home
By: Vinod Kumar Menon Date: 2010-07-31 Place: Mumbai
Constable assumes 62-year-old Colaba resident limping across street is a
vagabond; dumps him at beggars' home in Chembur
He had stepped out of home to go to the bank. Instead, he landed in a
home for beggars, thanks to the unnecessary and extra concern shown by a
policeman.
Colaba resident Robert D'souza (62), who is visually challenged, was
picked up by a police constable in the first week of this month and,
much against D'souza's wishes, taken to the Beggars' Home in Chembur.
The beggars' home is, as its name suggests, a charitable home that takes
cares of mendicants.
That morning, I was passing by Cusrow Baug in Colaba, to go Central
Bank's Fort branch. I am blind and also have a wound, said D'souza.
With a walking stick for support, I was requesting passers-by to help
me to the bus stop when a sturdy hand grabbed me by the arm and dragged
into a waiting vehicle.
D'souza said no questions were asked and before he knew it he was taken
to the home for beggars. How right is it on the part of the police to
do such a thing? he asks staring into nothingness.
This is the second such case of a man who is not a beggar but is being
forced to live in a beggars' home. MiD DAY reported a similar case in
its edition dated July 29 ('We beg to differ').
D'souza, a bachelor, has since been moved out of the home for beggars
and has now been shifted to a home for dying destitute persons at Tagore
Nagar in Vikhroli.
Food for rot
Life at the beggars' home was a nightmare. We were treated worse than
prisoners and the food served was not meant for human beings, D'souza
told MiD DAY.
We were served half-cooked rice, a watery dal and boiled brinjal for
lunch and dinner.
This was in sharp contrast to the daily diet regimen that this former
employee of a multinational firm was used to in the comforts of his home.
My daily diet comprised a chocolate-flavoured milk drink, sweet corn
soup and bread.
D'souza is annoyed at the constable who mistook him for a beggar and
took him to the charity home.
If mum were alive...
Life was always a bed of roses for D'souza till his mother, Mariya,
passed away 17 years ago.
She used to let out part of their 1,200-sq-ft apartment to paying
guests, some of who included foreigners, said D'souza who lost his
father when he was very young. He has no siblings.
After his mother's death, life was never the same. I had developed
cataract in both eyes.
During the surgery, I developed complications to the retina, which
caused complete loss of vision, said D'souza. Soon after losing my
vision, I also lost my job.
No home, no money
As if the cruel blow that fate dealt him were not enough, there was more
in store. D'souza said he was cheated of his home by people who took
advantage of his blindness.
I wanted to dispose of my property in 1993. I was offered Rs 14 lakh
for the apartment but I thought I could get more, recalled D'souza.
I was introduced to one Kulbhushan Malik who agreed to pay Rs 20 lakh
besides free treatment at a hospital in Chennai to help restore my vision.
D'souza said that Malik made him sign some documents, only to learn
later that he had been taken for a ride. Not only did I lose the house,
the money was not paid either.
I should have struck the first deal and taken Rs 14 lakh, but greed got
the better of me, D'souza said, a tinge of regret in his voice.
After lodging a police complaint against Malik, D'souza said the
fraudster was arrested. The legal matter is, however, pending in court.
Besides, a locker which his mother operated at Bank of India's Fountain
branch still lies untouched.
My mother had kept gold ornaments, some foreign currency and rent
receipts in the locker, he recalled. Surely, the valuables might run
into a few lakhs of rupees.
Fear stalks
Safely ensconced at the Home for Dying Destitutes at Vikhroli, D'souza
is scared to venture out alone on the streets.
I do not want to be hauled by another policeman and taken to the
beggars' home again. I'm a free human being and want to be like that,
he said.
The Other Side
Beggars' Home
FROM D'souza's speech and demeanour, I figured he is not a beggar. So,
I contacted the destitute home myself, said Superintendent of Beggars'
Home Gautam Arwel.
About the quality of food served at the home, he said, We cook from
what the government supplies to us and cannot do anything about it.
The police
I have no clue about this particular incident. I will have to enquire
before making any comment, said Assistant Commissioner of Police
(Colaba division) Iqbal Shaikh.
About the criteria they look for when they pick up a 'beggar', Shaikh
said, We take action only against those who are spotted begging, in
keeping with the Bombay Prevention of Begging Act 1959.
Home for dying destitute
D'souza seems to be from a decent family and he told me
Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events
To Goanet - Frederick Noronha wrote: Glad to note that the skin-deep secularists are now exposing themselves on Goanet. I am not a secularist, never have been. Frederick Noronha once again goes about his daily drip of lies and smears. The only one who stands exposed on Goanet is Frederick Noronha. The light is now shining on those parts of Admin Noronha where the sun rarely shines. Admin Noronha should tell his fellow Catholics from the villages of Arossim, Cansaulim, Benaulim etc if he has been subsidized (and by whom) to downplay and/or deny the rampant construction madness in Goa. Catholic villagers of San Jose de Areal and other Salcette villages also want to know if Admin Noronha is subsidized to shill for the ghatis that have been stuffed in the voter rolls. Regards, r * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Goa news for August 2, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Murdered Scarlett Keeling's body had 50 injuries - Daily Mail xSNJ7618yhQ http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF1-yHpKFFpjieNERShkv-htVtAXwurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1299466/Murdered-Scarlett-Keelings-body-50-injuries.html?ito=feeds-newsxml *** Goa house disrupted 4th time over drug nexus probe - Sify fg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNERwC-HGVcHR4t99wFYm6_cfbBtEQurl=http://sify.com/news/goa-house-disrupted-4th-time-over-drug-nexus-probe-news-national-kh3vObgecca.html *** Goa CM 'misled' NCP to get my resignation: Pacheco - Times of India isled-Pawar-about-evidence-against-me-Pacheco/Article1-578974.aspxKamat misled Pawar about evidence against me: Pacheco http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGbG4StI05ZqvXAmAiuwItuZ68Csgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Goa-CM-misled-NCP-to-get-my-resignation-Pacheco-/articleshow/6228868.cms *** Shri Ravindra Kelekar bestowed with Jnanpith Award 2006 - Total Filmy tal FilmyAt a glittering function held in Goa, Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar presented the prestigious Jnanpith Award for 2006 to Konkani litterateur Ravindra ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFHIfwKOtIWubbUW1ZdQhtdkGEO1Aurl=http://www.totalfilmy.com/feature/20100801/shri_ravindra_kelekar_bestowed_jnanpith_award_2006-30231.html *** Services and Goa pick up deserving wins - Hindustan Times inals by defeating Punjab to register their second win at the Yuba Bharati Krirangan on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFEVh_-G-YTy-RbZk8HnaeF_vGGNwurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Services-and-Goa-pick-up-deserving-wins/Article1-580462.aspx *** Goa NIT inaugurated, gets head start over other institutes - Times of India o2s07MOw http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH47A7TgDmwyr1slBREcQGdbzS-fQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-NIT-inaugurated-gets-head-start-over-other-institutes/articleshow/6242565.cms *** Despite poverty, India a success story, says UK's Vince Cable - Daily News Analysis hould-recognise-re-emerging-india-news-international-kiboOcbbecd.html'Britain should recognise re-emerging India' http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG1yzV5Qgu7vuIFx6UOf2EJdHLdbQurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_despite-poverty-india-a-success-story-says-uk-s-vince-cable_1417426 *** Goa's frog poachers feed taste for 'jumping chicken' - Independent dependentAt night during the annual monsoon rains, hundreds of tropical villages in rural Goa come alive with the cacophony of croaking bullfrogs calling for mates ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFjmCdWe41t8wca92ALmt7vWXjUKAurl=http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/goas-frog-poachers-feed-taste-for-jumping-chicken-2041071.html *** Goa advance to semis - Indian Express at the Yuba Bharati Krirangan here on Saturday to secure a place in the semi-final of the 64th Santosh Trophy. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHh37w0R6aoLDaKK49dlktlWw4Kcwurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Goa-advance-to-semis/654362 *** Goa to strengthen ties with diaspora - Sify esidents who make up at least one-third of the state's 1.5 million population and ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGxLO6My3lI4iyOiO-uVh7VqOR6bgurl=http://sify.com/finance/goa-to-strengthen-ties-with-diaspora-news-default-kibiEcecdci.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events
I do not agree with Rajan that Admin Noronha is anti-Hindu. But it is clear to me that he is not a secular pluralist either. The grounds for this belief are quite obvious. Admin Noronha is driven by an entrenched ideology. As with all ideologies, it has outlived its purpose, if it had any purpose in the first place. Like its counterparts, it pigeonholes everybody who does not swallow its precepts hook, line and sinker, into a monolithic camp opposed to all that is good and dandy in this world. That is why he, like others with similar afflictions, uses the usual methods of negative political campaigning against people who are different in any respect from him - the methods of guilt by association, smear, innuendo, etc. The other unfortunate casualty of this unreasonable outlook, beholden to a political ideology rather than to a rational approach towards the day-to-day transactions of regular folk, is an inability to recognize their habitual lapses in fairness and even-handedness. The confrontational attitude that he showed in that video amidst a sober and sensible discussion between two parties should give you some insight into what I am talking about. A person who is secular is first and foremost dispassionate and considerate. She proceeds with no presumptions, or the presumption of innocence, in her every day interactions. She recognizes that even good and decent people can be misguided, and indeed, quite often are. I am hoping to see a glimpse of this someday in Admin Noronha and other like-minded folk who like to think of themselves as fighting for the secular cause. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to note that the skin-deep secularists are now exposing themselves on Goanet. Earlier, the argument used to be my bigots are better than your bigots. Now it seems to have shifted to: if you challenge the logic of my bigots, I will target you instead. All while claiming the secular space! FN On 1 August 2010 05:29, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: I just took a look at the two posted videos. The only piece of hostility there, as Dr. Helekar has noted, came from the anti-Hindu, communal, muckraking, coward-of-a-smear-merchant Frederick Noronha. To the likes of Admin Noronha and his fellow cohorts like the Commie operator Gadgil, only Hindu malfeasance is visible, and they will lie through their pustulated behinds at every opportunity provided by the fringe Hindu rightwing to portray the Hindu Right as the biggest danger since Nazi Germany. * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events
To Goanet - Dr. Santosh Helekar wrote: I do not agree with Rajan that Admin Noronha is anti-Hindu. But it is clear to me that he is not a secular pluralist either. The grounds for this belief are quite obvious. Admin Noronha is driven by an entrenched ideology. As with all ideologies, it has outlived its purpose, if it had any purpose in the first place. My use of the term anti-Hindu for Admin Noronha was deliberate. Criticism of Hinduism, Hindus, Hindu Right, Hindu Anything in itself does not make anyone anti-Hindu. To cite an extreme case, I have never thought of Nascy as anti-Hindu. Semi-literate clown, yes. Anti-Hindu, no. The anti-Hindu fellow harbours a deep resentment towards any assertion of Hindu identity or any attempt at Hindu organization, whether it is political or social. Anytime he sees something which in his mind demonstrates Hindu strength his instinct is to smear it, or fabricate stories to tar the individual or group. Groups like HJS are a Godsend to him for they feed right into his pre-conceived narrative. At the same time, similar expression by Christians, Jews, or Muslims elicits no such disapproval; indeed Muslim atrocities are whitewashed as a matter of course. Exhibit A of this breed is the Indian Marxist, of which we had one here on Goanet (I hear that that bhailo is now fouling the air in the capitalist haven of Singapore. The hypocrite.) Admin Noronha is anti-Hindu in the sense outlined but I am not sure he is actuated by any ideology - that would mean that his worldview is shaped by reflection and study, for which there is no evidence whatsoever. What we know is that he is a master of the cut paste, an agile Googlemeister, a garden-variety smear merchant, a purveyor of slime lies. I wouldn't go digging into Noronha's soul looking for anything deeper. Regards, r * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] TAIP
Karachi, TAIP and Estado da India Portuguesa: http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1t=12446 * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Problems threaten the Delhi India Commonwealth Games (Oops NOT AGAIN!)
Goanetters, Our Matt Wades's account FYI. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/falling-apart-at-the-seams--welcome-to-the-shame-games-20100801-111fs.html Thank you and Jai Hind, RubyGoes SYD * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] A Hindu America
Gabe Menezes posed me a question saying: Are only Hindus allow to reincarnate, or is it that every human can reinacrnate? Dr. Barad, what does your inner self tell you, what were you before you became Barad (Reference: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 809, Message: 1, dated: Sun, 1 Aug 2010) My response: I repeat the article titled A Hindu America? July 24, 2010 by Francis X. Clooney, S.J. along with views of Lisa Miller that appeared in America - The National Catholic Weekly (ANCW) provoked my thoughts. If that article did not provoke your thoughts I would only say it's because of your high level thinking logic. However, be informed that I have already provided you with the web link for the article I posted to Goanet. If you have any queries, I think, you are free to post your basic questions/queries to that web site (This website does take comments from readers). And after I read your questions/queries to ANCW - the website I referred to, you will better understand my answer to your question i.e. what were you before you became Barad Best regards, U. G. Barad * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Cansaulim GBA meet - Report
Dear Roger, Floriano and Dr. Dumo, Thanks from my side as well for your action and speaking out for Cansualim, Goa Goans Best Regards, Arwin On 31 July 2010 08:59, roger dsouza wrote: Thank you Floriano Bab and Dr Dumo for attending last night's meeting and sharing your observations and thoughts for all. I can imagine it must have been quite late by the time you got home and yet you shared this with all. * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] experienced snake trapper needed in goa
DEar editor, I wish to know the mobile no. of an experienced snake trapper in the bardez region of goa,seems a nest of snakes are living in my inhabited ancestral home thank fr ben 9767158326 * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Sex and Work_HIMAL South Asian
I have a drawing each in both the following pieces in the Sex and Work issue of HIMAL South Asian (August 2010). All four pices which are part of the suite may be viewed here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/venantius/ Entire Issue: http://www.himalmag.com/ Sex and the pity http://www.himalmag.com/Sex-and-the-pity_nw4624.html *By: Meena Saraswathi Seshu *The stigmatisation of sex workers stems from misconceptions and squeamishness about sex. The feminist and the sex worker: Lessons from the Indian experiencehttp://www.himalmag.com/The-feminist-and-the-sex-worker-Lessons-from-the-Indian-experience_nw4623.html *By: Srilatha Batliwala Despite decades of tension between feminists and sex workers, it is finally becoming clear that the former has much to learn from the latter. * ++ vjp * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (2Aug10)
*** Gateway to Goa *** Great Place! Except for Garbage * Mining (Dumps) Mega Projects * Cops-Politicians-Drugs-Nexus * Rapes Have Fun! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Gandhi G-Kings
Dear Fredrick and Rajan While it is heartening see that all goanetters are firmly on the side of Goa, I am disdained to find that they continue to spend most of their time fighting to decide as to who is their enemy no.1. The enemy and the enemies are making merry with divide and rule. Can we all utilise atleast 50% of our energies and time to fight only enemies? Please retrospect. No compulsions. Lets resolve on the INDEPENDENCE DAY. Rajendra * * * In every way, the Goans of Bombay were part of the great melee that was this metropolis, distinct perhaps in the way communities often are, holding on to their own traditions but merging slowly nonetheless and forming the thin thread of nationhood that would eventually become India. -- Selma Carvalho, in *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
