[Goanet] 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa ?
‘Portuguese ship 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa’ Says Freedom Fighters FFs suddenly turned into God men now – Purifiers I am sure they can purify our dirty politicians too Give them Call to purify your dirty Panchayat, Ministers, MLAs, MPs etc The group also wants to close down the Goa Portuguese Consulate Publicity stunt? Read more http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextra2/5211220198/sizes/l/ the ship http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk29/5169399592/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Song for the day.
D Day Ritchie Valens (Of La Bamba fame, who died tragically in an aircraft accident) - Donna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMcHbh6HBDkfeature=related Paul Anka - Diana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuTbB-d12A0 -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Re- Goanet - anti-Portuguese resolution passed by group in Panjim
Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com wrote: While this group is busy passing resolutions, why not pass resolutions banning the English language, English signage, English used in Government offices etc. English used in Parliament, and change all English names including street names, and town names still in use all over India. response: I believe that the Desh Premis want to revert - in the first instance - back to 1510 i.e. the year Portugal defeated Adil Shah That also means the following in addition to what Vivian has so succinctly stated (above): 1: Overturn the Portuguese ban (by decree) on Sati 2: Revert back to the days when the Caste System was officially accepted. 3: Abolish the Westminster system of Government (not that it is significantly better than the dadagiri which existed pre-1510) 4: Ban the Railways, Buses, Bicycles, Planes, Cars, Radio, TV, Modern Medicine hospitals - all of which are 'foreign interventions into Goa'. (Though one could do a bit of revisionism and claim that all of the above were actually invented in Benaulim or Moira) 5: Reintroduce the Devadasi system 6: Ban cashew, cricket and colacos ( esp those who changed from citizenship from that of Bijapur to that of Portugal.) jc
[Goanet] Anecdotal examples
Anecdotal (rare) examples is not proof positive. Recently reading some historical writings about Goa, I can across two topics; whose conclusions may represents a pattern. One was a photograph of a circular building which at first is attributed as POSSIBLY being a Jewish synagogue. Soon the conclusion is made that the photograph was proof of an active Jewish community in Goa. Another example was a Syrian Orthodox Cross found at Aggasain, reportedly at the bottom of the river. This artifact is reportedly displayed at the museum in Pillar. This was claimed to be proof of an active Christian community in Goa; prior to the Portuguese. Does a solitary artifact prove the existence of a whole community? Should there not exists lot more artifacts if such a community existed? In the case of the Syrian Orthodox Cross, this object could well be on its way to its final destination with Goa's famous port being the entry or exit harbor. Anecdotal cases make interesting reading, but are generally an exception rather than rule. Because of their exception, the anecdotal observations make interesting reporting and reading. Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions passed by group in Panaji
On 26 November 2010 18:20, U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Gabe Menezes question (refer: Message: 2, Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010): Does it mean that to bring about a complete reversal, Catholics will have to revert to Hindu names and also renounce their Religion? My response: Let me rephrase your question: Does it mean that to bring about a complete reversal, Hindus have to convert to catholic! And, what are catholics in Goa? Nothing less than Hindu converts! So what is preventing you from coming back to original fold? Best regards, U. G. Barad RESPONSE: I am quite happy to be where I am, I love eating Beef, can't keep an abstinence Friday; wouldn't be able to be a vegetarian for 3/4 days in a week and couldn't bring myself down to your level; i.e. be a Hindu and nothing else and expect everyone who lives in India to be the same.! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Goa's 3 deadly sins
Frederick, U have summed it all up, beautifully. Goa is 'divided' within itself in so many ways; that 'all Goans' can never unite. Result: one who pushes for Govt. can win. irrespective of principles and or loyalties. Nascy Caldeira --- On Thu, 25/11/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Talking now about special status for Goa in 1961 is applying hindsight. It seems like perfect vision today, 20/20. Fact is Goa was and is terribly divided, with some then wanting it to remain a Portuguese colony, a few talking about autonomy (mainly late in the day), and yet others campaigning for integration with India. Post-1961, the merger-versus-nonmerger battle only gives a further hint of how divided and needlessly polarised the last group was. Further, the nature of politics here -- communal based since the 1960s, and more intensely so since the 1990s, except for the 1980s and other shorter spells when pure money dominated -- meant that one section protesting against tourism or the Konkan Railway would get laughed at, if not effectively neutralised by the other! The sale of Goa as a holiday-destination and place for second homes didn't begin in 2004. IFFI may have given a filip to this, but wasn't the start of it, nor even the most important factor. If Parrikar (not Rajan!) could be faulted for something, it's a belief that he could do effectively business with the same system, and even build-up and depend on the same Babushes, Mickkys, Alemaos, Ranes, Sardinhas, Madkaikars, Neris, de Souzas and others to come to power and somehow cling on there. The problem with Goa, as I see it, is that the divisions are so deep, that we think we believe we can keep playing one against the other and still somehow survive. Only the permutations and combinations change -- Catholic versus Hindu, Bamon versus Bahujan, Chardo versus Brahmin, Salcete versus Ponda, local versus ghanti, GBA versus GPA, and more recently even Hindu + Catholic versus Muslim! As long as people can be so easily divided, why should any politician bother with delivering quality?
Re: [Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions passed by group in Panaji
Reading the Goanet article , on issue relating to Portuguese , I definitely think there is nothing better to do in life than dwell in the past and rot in the dung! Shame on the mentality that we argue and debate on religion in this modern era, have we not progressed from the time where Brahmins would not cross the path of a lower caste, where today a Brahim would happily lives in 5 star hotel and dine the food cooked by may be lower caste , where once he would not pass shadow of? What is shocking is that educated doctors and writers dwell in the same mentality of the in par with uneducated lower mentality, instead of doing better for the ‘good of mankind’ this intelligent wasted on issue “of past and religion converting”, distorted the good, a reader like myself feel disgusted to know the no matter how educated a man is , the education is not of educating the “ mind” but merely certificates to source of money and when it comes to religion he will worship anything he think there is God within it!!! --- On Sat, 27/11/10, Gabe Menezes wrote: From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions passed by group in Panaji To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 9:53 AM On 26 November 2010 18:20, U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Gabe Menezes question (refer: Message: 2, Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010): Does it mean that to bring about a complete reversal, Catholics will have to revert to Hindu names and also renounce their Religion? My response: Let me rephrase your question: Does it mean that to bring about a complete reversal, Hindus have to convert to catholic! And, what are catholics in Goa? Nothing less than Hindu converts! So what is preventing you from coming back to original fold? Best regards, U. G. Barad RESPONSE: I am quite happy to be where I am, I love eating Beef, can't keep an abstinence Friday; wouldn't be able to be a vegetarian for 3/4 days in a week and couldn't bring myself down to your level; i.e. be a Hindu and nothing else and expect everyone who lives in India to be the same.! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] New Miracle Takes Fr. Agnel Closer to Sainthood
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)® www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm Tumcam Maie-mogacho ieukar. Enjoy Life - This is not a rehearsal! Konkani uloi, boroi, vach ani samball - sodankal. Hich Goenchi osmitai ani amchem khalxelponn. Goenchi amchi Konkani bhas! Ekvottachem saddon Goenkaranchem. Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little. New Miracle Takes Fr. Agnel Closer to Sainthood Devotees of Venerable Agnelo D’Souza are excited after sending to Rome a report of a miracle attributed to the Goan priest. Venerable Agnelo Gustavo Adolfo de Souza, a member of the indigenous Missionaries of St. Francis Xavier, died in 1927 and his canonization process began 20 years later. Rome declared him venerable, the second stage in the canonization process, in 1986. Father Hilario Fernandes, vice postulator of the cause, says although thousands of miracles are attributed to the priest, his canonization process hit bottlenecks on at least eight occasions. In one instance, a blood sample sent to Rome was lost in transit. The new miracle is about a 62-year-old woman, who suffered from metal poisoning. She was admitted in a hospital and doctors said she would die. But after the woman’s relatives prayed to Venerable Agnelo she recovered. Father Fernandes said they sent the case to Rome on Nov. 15. “We hope this will clinch his fate to be declared blessed,” he said. The priest, who belongs to the same congregation as Venerable Agnelo, said doctors fear their hospitals and profession would suffer if they certify a patient’s recovery is medically unexplainable. Father Fernandes claims Venerable Agnelo is second only in popularity saint among people in Goa after Saint Francis Xavier. Fiona Carnerio, an Agnelo devotee, says having a saint of the soil would help keep people’s faith intact. Jesus Ribeiro, another Catholic, blamed Rome for going slow in processing the cases of candidates from developing countries. The canonization process begins with granting the title “Servant of God.” Candidates who fulfill certain criteria are declared “Venerable.” The next stage is beatification, for which a miracle attributed to the candidate is needed. Sainthood requires another miracle under the same condition. From the Desk of... Joseph Dias, General Secretary, The CSF Catholic-Christian Secular Forum www.thecsf.org ^Evangelical ^Ecumenical ^Interdenominational The Catholic-Christian Secular Forum (The CSF) www.thecsf.org Regd Office : 75, Vakola Village, Off St. Anthony's Street, Santacruz (E), Mumbai - 55. The CSF is India's only ISO 9001:2000 certified NGO for undertaking community development programmes for human rights, social service, medical aid, education, charity relief of the laity, supported by the clergy. The certification is by the joint accredition service of Australia New Zealand. Venerable Fr. Agnelo D'Souza! Fr. Agnelo Gustavo Adolfo de Souza was born on January 21, 1869 in Gaumvaddy, Anjuna, Bardez, Goa (India). Orphaned at the age of eleven, he was a brilliant and devout student. Agnelo joined the Minor Seminary at Mapusa and then went to Rachol Seminary. The house where Fr. Agnel was bornhttp://www.goa-world.com/goa/fr-agnels/2.htm On July 17, 1897, the feast of Our Lady of Pilar, Agnelo, then a Sub-Deacon, was admitted as a candidate to the Missionary Society of St. Francis Xavier, Pilar, and on May 22, 1898, he made his first Profession. Ordained on September 24, 1898, Fr. Agnelo first worked as a teacher and then in the Missions. In 1920, he was appointed Spiritual Director in Rachol Seminary. The Seminarians found in him a model to follow and feltthemselves secure in his guidance. On November 20, 1927 he died in odour of sanctity. He had suffered an acute cerebral thrombosis on the previous day while he was preaching at the Vespers of Sacred Heart of Jesus. Many thousands of favors have been published in various periodicals in many parts of the world. Fr. Agnelo’s Tomb in Pilar attracts countless devotees praying for his powerful intercession. The process of beatification is making good but slow progress in Rome. On November 10, 1986 the Process of Life and Virtues was approved by Pope John Paul II and he declared him Venerable. The process on an alleged miracle has been finished at Diocesan level and submitted to the Sacred Congregation in Rome. Archival photo of the First Professed members of the Society of St. Francis Xavier. Standing on the far left is Fr. Agnelo D'Souza. Picture by William Rodrigues, www.goa-world.com Peter D’Costa, known to everyone by his stage name ‘Prem Kumar’, needs no introduction; he is one of the living legends of the Konkani stage. He is basically a ‘partist’ and rarely sings songs. It was awfully nice of him to sing a song in honor of Venerable Fr.
[Goanet] OBITUARY - Benson D'Silva (Kuwait/Ambora-Loutulim, Goa)
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)® www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm Tumcam Maie-mogacho ieukar. Konkani uloi, boroi, vach ani samball - sodankal. Hich Goenchi osmitai ani amchem khalxelponn. Goenchi amchi Konkani bhas! Ekvottachem saddon Goenkaranchem. Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little. OBITUARY - Bension D'Silva (Ambora-Loutulim, Goa/Kuwait) Benson D’Silva Ambora-Loutulim, Goa [Died on 24 November, 2010] Son of Benjamin/Helen(Ambora-Loutulim), loving husband of Clara, affectionate father of Jude, Sergio, Karen and Lynn(Kuwait). Brother/brother-in-law of Antonio (Tony)/Diana, Maria/Leo, Elsie/Flavio, Loretto/Immaculada, late Lawrence/Collins, Angela/Tony, nieces and nephews. There will be an Eucharistic celebration at St. Theresa Church, Salmiya, Kuwait at 4:00 p.m. on Saturday, 27th November 2010 (today). Body will be kept for viewing at Sabah Hospital Mortuary at 9.30 am (today) The mortal remains will be flown to Goa for the final rites. Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. Relatives, friends kindly accept this as the only intimation. http://www.goa-world.com/goa/fr-agnels/18.htm http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans
[Goanet] TV Watching Increases Waistlines and Blood Pressure
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[Goanet] Jaggery and buildings
There was a discussion on Saligao-Net [http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net] about why jaggery was used in old buildings in Goa. Below are some hints. Anyone would have a clue? (I hope JC will not charge me with promoting more stereotypes about the Goan*s*). -- FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 -- Forwarded message -- On 27 November 2010 10:09, dilip dacruz cruzmissil...@hotmail.com wrote: 1. I'm intrigued by the jaggery. Was it used as a glue? Or was it a form of heat insulation? I understand Jaggery is sometimes used to line tandoors. FN: ... Google has some pointers... A farmer told me that after this application they also sprinkle some jaggery around the trees. Asked to explain the reason he said, jaggery attracts large black ants (domle/katmuyo) which are natural enemies of termites. They kill and drag all termite workers to their nests. This is a part of Goa’s traditional biological control. But the hidden termites are perfect defenders of their nests and even snakes are scared to enter a live termite nest. So the termite conquests in Goa would continue. (Nandkumar Kamat) http://www.navhindtimes.in/panorama/climate-change-favours-voracious-termites Conventional wisdom of our ancestors advocated construcation of houses building, with materials available which are generic to the mother earth such as stones cut form granite formation or leterite crust or mud finely sieved mixed with lime, sand jaggery and the roofs were constructed slantingly with enjoinment of rafters reapers wall plates, beams with over burnt clay tiles layering and as the roof extended almost 2 1/2 feet away from the periphery of the walls thereby protecting wall from formation of moss in monsoon by flow of water. http://www.mail-archive.com/gulf-go...@yahoogroups.com/msg00974.html Agreed, the answer is not very clear... but there's a hint of it here. FN
[Goanet] YouTube - The Swinging London - Gibbons: These Foolish Things, 1936
British Dance Bands of the Thirties Carroll Gibbons His Savoy Orchestra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSg7MV8ZVvgfeature=related
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] NEWS-GULF: Pratibha launches Indian Workers Resource Centre
That's fantastic news for the residents of the U.A.E. Howevr, how about something for workers in this country who need redress? My daughter is facing problems with non payment of salary for several months due to being a freelancer, however there seems to be no one who oversees the rights of freelance workers in this country, even though there is a huge number of Indians working freelance. If anyone knows whom she can approach, I would be most grateful. Thanks. From: Goanet News news.goa...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 4:39:21 AM Subject: [Goanet-News] NEWS-GULF: Pratibha launches Indian Workers Resource Centre Pratibha launches Indian Workers Resource Centre Smita Gupta Low wages, delayed salary payments, isolation, combined with a lack of knowledge of the laws under which they can seek redress have, only too often, turned the dreams of Indian blue collar workers living abroad into a nightmare. The Union Ministry of Overseas Affairs has now initiated as a pilot project, a free, walk-in resource centre providing Indian workers, especially semi-skilled and unskilled labourers, direct access to welfare services in the United Arab Emirates, located in Dubai. The Indian Workers Resource Centre (IWRC) was inaugurated late on Tuesday by President Pratibha Patil, who is on a goodwill tour of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Syria. Later, briefing journalists, Secretary (East) Latha Reddy said that while such visits provided an occasion to celebrate the success stories of Indians living abroad, it was important not to forget those less fortunate. Secretary (Ministry of Overseas Affairs) Didar Singh said the IWRC experiment followed the setting up, four years ago in Delhi, of the Overseas Workers Resource Centre, especially for workers from Kerala, Andhra Pradesh, Haryana and Punjab. Dr. Singh said the objective was to provide a “seamless service” for those who wished to go abroad to work from the moment they took the decision to do so. He added that while the UAE centre was the first, the government hoped to create such facilities in other countries with a large NRI population. Of the 25 million overseas Indians, 10 million are NRIs, Indian passport-holders, and of these 5.5 million are in the Gulf. The United Arab Emirates accounts for 1.7 million, of which close to 70 per cent are blue collar workers, many working in appalling conditions. Now, workers in distress can call a toll-free number, 800 46342 (800-India), from anywhere in the UAE to seek counselling, information or advice relating to legal issues such as contracts and financial matters. The centre, located on Khalid bin Waleed Street, will be open from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. every day, with phone lines open 24 hours a day and available in seven languages, including English, Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam and Telugu. In cases of disputes concerning contracts and other legal documents, workers will be referred to a qualified adviser. In addition, sessions will be arranged for labourers in need of psychological counselling. Clearly, the need to set up such facilities was felt as Indian missions abroad did not have the resources or expertise to cater to the welfare of expatriate workers adequately. These services will be in addition to the existing services offered by Indian missions and social cultural organisations of India running in the UAE. Keywords: India-UAE, Pratibha Patil visit http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article910925.ece
[Goanet] FORMER IGP KD SINGH SON’S CAR CRASH C OST THE TAX PAYER Rs. 4 ,33, 200
The 4th December 2009 car crash by the son of Goa’s former IGP, Mr. K.D.Singh while driving his father’s official a Toyota Innova GA-07-G-0063 has cost the State exchequer Rs 4, 33, 200. This has been revealed in information obtained under the Right to Information Act. Siddharth Singh the IGP’s son was driving his father’s official vehicle along with his friends to a night club at Vasco that late night when he crashed the vehicle also damaging two electricity poles. The information obtained further reveals that the Goa Government has given financial and administrative approval for the repair of that vehicle and has decided not to recover the amount from either the former IGP or his son. The file notings obtained also reveals that almost 6 months after the accident, the Under Secretary Home on 16/6/2010 in a letter to the Director General of Police sought clarification as to how without the knowledge of the official driver the IGP’s son got the keys of that vehicle. In a reply sent around two months later the police state that in case the vehicle was required for any contingency at night the driver had parked the vehicle at the IGP’s residence and left the keys there. Director of Prosecution Mrs. Shobha Dhumaskar had in her legal opinion given on 22nd February this year opined that the IGP’s son should not be charge sheeted in the accident case that was registered against him. While not suggesting any further investigation in the matter the Director of Prosecution in her opinion had stated that despite the heavy damage to the vehicle, there was no evidence of rash and negligent driving and that it would be difficult to prove the case against the IGP’s son Sidharth Singh. The RTI information reveals that while former IGP Mr.KD.Singh and his son who was unauthorizedly driving his father’s official vehicle are scot free a different yardstick for a police driver who was involved in an accident in discharge of his official duties. In another information furnished under the Right to Information Act it has been informed that Rs 1833 a month is being deducted from the salary of Police Driver Vinod Malvankar for an accident a Police van being driven by him had met with on 27th August 2003. The records reveal that police constable Vinod Malvankar is being penalized despite the Additional Sessions Judge and a police departmental inquiry as well ruling that he was not driving rash or negligently. If indiscipline and cover up was by higher ups in the police force not much could be expected from the lower ranks. May be this liberation day the Goa Government should reward former IGP Mr. K.D.Singh with a gold medal for having successfully drilled a Rs 4, 33, 200 deep hole into the State exchequer. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] Funningly Speaking by Floriano Lobo of Goa Su-Raj
I get this call from a long time friend of mine from Salcete. Hello Floriano he says, how're things, how's the party doing? Hello dear I say nice to hear from you in a long time. What's cooking at your end? - As for me, I couldn't have been better and more relaxed... with my building having gotten the Occupancy Certificate which Dayanand Narvekar tried hardest to stop and where he has to give me credit for sending him on a wild goose chase ... the shit ultimately has hit him in his ugly face... Yes, It sure feels good Nice to hear all that he said By the way, do you read Herald? I get all English language dailies I said but most of the time I do not get time to go through them .. why are you asking? There is a joker called Francis Rodrigues and he writes a humour column of an on as 'Goan abroad' ... And in the 24/Nov edition he has belittled your party some with a caption 'Putty Polly'tics!' he said. Something like that never misses my hawkish eye I said .. Yes, I have seen that .. and I have left Francis to look after the many Tics on his Polly. :-)) Are you not going to react to that slight? he asked. No I said. These are not slights but these are actually commendations. Does any one write about UGDP, MGP that way at all ? ... Congress they call Ali Baba Chors. BJP the call Communal, NCP they call 'rolling stone party in that it accommodated accomplished rolling stones like Trajan D'Mello and Surendra Sirsat' who are known not to collect any moss. What else can they call goasuraj? But Floriano, this Charlie called you Flower'iano and your party Su..su..su..raj and that is not fair he said. Cool down will you I said. People have call this party with worst names ... like Gu-Raj, Sur Raj and more. But Su .su ..raj makes more sense and I think I like it better Come on Floriano, that is not the way the founding president of the party must react. You must do something he said. Now don't tell me you want turn in your life membership... are you ... and yes, I shall do something if you like I said That's better he said You are going to do something ... like what? he asked. You see dear I said I have been a sailor-boy for far too long. And out at sea, when partying ( which was a regularly regular affair) we used to sing the Jonhnny the sailor's ballad. I am going to do just that I said You want to sing Johnny the sailor's ballad? Is that it? he asked aghast. No I said. I am going to stand on the steeple and piss on the people like Johnny the sailor did. Hopefully some of it will fall on Francis Rodrigues the joker from Toronto. Our Moira church boast of having the highest steeple in Goa and the reason is that Moidekars made it grow by burying a patmari load of 'tallehs' underneath it, a feat that no one has been able to accomplish. That is why we are called Moidekars. I must say that you have a better sense of humour than this jackass called Francis Rodrigues he said Why don't you give him some tuitions? AAH I said I look at humour when it makes me laugh... that means that the reader must burst out laughing. In Francis's case, it is the he himself who bursts out laughing at his stupid jokes. That is why I normally do not look twice at his pieces.. Hope he will improve with maturity Tell me something, Floriano said my friend How come you gave such a funny name to your party?. It is like asking for trouble, like in this case where people make fun of it Not at all I said. We deliberately named it so... so that we could pee on all those people who continuously and regularly vote for the CONGRESS and the BJP et al. What better name than SU RAJ? That makes us professionals at peeing on people who have no brains Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow. http://www.goasu-raj.org/gen/articles/70.asp http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/254068/1043608998/name/roadmap_goa-su-raj_party.pdf http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/attachments/folder/132590897/item/64224316/view
Re: [Goanet] Jaggery and buildings
Irmao Fred, did they say what jaggery it was...cane or coconut? Thanks. ederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: There was a discussion on Saligao-Net [http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net] about why jaggery was used in old buildings in Goa. Below are some hints. Anyone would have a clue? (I hope JC will not charge me with promoting more stereotypes about the Goan*s*). -- FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 -- Forwarded message -- On 27 November 2010 10:09, dilip dacruz cruzmissil...@hotmail.com wrote: 1. I'm intrigued by the jaggery. Was it used as a glue? Or was it a form of heat insulation? I understand Jaggery is sometimes used to line tandoors. FN: ... Google has some pointers... A farmer told me that after this application they also sprinkle some jaggery around the trees. Asked to explain the reason he said, jaggery attracts large black ants (domle/katmuyo) which are natural enemies of termites. They kill and drag all termite workers to their nests. This is a part of Goa’s traditional biological control. But the hidden termites are perfect defenders of their nests and even snakes are scared to enter a live termite nest. So the termite conquests in Goa would continue. (Nandkumar Kamat) http://www.navhindtimes.in/panorama/climate-change-favours-voracious-termites Conventional wisdom of our ancestors advocated construcation of houses building, with materials available which are generic to the mother earth such as stones cut form granite formation or leterite crust or mud finely sieved mixed with lime, sand jaggery and the roofs were constructed slantingly with enjoinment of rafters reapers wall plates, beams with over burnt clay tiles layering and as the roof extended almost 2 1/2 feet away from the periphery of the walls thereby protecting wall from formation of moss in monsoon by flow of water. http://www.mail-archive.com/gulf-go...@yahoogroups.com/msg00974.html Agreed, the answer is not very clear... but there's a hint of it here. FN
Re: [Goanet] Jaggery and buildings
On 27 November 2010 07:30, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: There was a discussion on Saligao-Net [http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net] about why jaggery was used in old buildings in Goa. Below are some hints. Anyone would have a clue? (I hope JC will not charge me with promoting more stereotypes about the Goan*s*). -- FN == Good morning FN. Trust thou art well. Good to see that you are making an attempt to check some facts before rushing to print. Just so that you may know - I am not an expert on construction. But, being from Carabolim (via Velim) I do know a little about the 'deconstruction of the proverbial 'hook'. This time around, you are not stereotyping Goans. Jaggery is not known to be a popular item in Goa except until recently. It was quite well known (in what was Poona, at least) that builders (labour from South India aka Vadarwadis) of puls (micro-mini bridges) would use some crushed nuts soaked in jaggery apparently to harden the chuna they used in building. They built one connecting the main road to the hospital-campus I grew up in. No .they (the builders) were not Goans not even your Goanese...but they would be quite spirited in the evening courtesy Dalda (the code word for Navsagar)..the awful smell would permeate the atmosphere of very colourful hyderabadi. YUCK! gtg - have a busy weekend .so if you have any pressing (i.e. needling) questions .I will answer them after you answer questions put to you by Rajan Parrikar. jc So ...there ...
[Goanet] Naturally Relieve and Prevent Unpleasant Hangovers
http://www.healthiertalk.com/naturally-relieve-and-prevent-unpleasant-hangovers-2892
[Goanet] YouTube - Henry Hall - Underneath the arches
One of British Dance Bands of Yesteryear. Henry Hall the BBC Band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_TGPYYqdzMfeature=related
[Goanet] The so called freedom fighters purifying sea at Khariwado are a joke and fake.
From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa ? ? ?Portuguese ship 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa? Says Freedom Fighters ? FFs suddenly turned into God men now ? Purifiers ? I am sure they can purify our dirty politicians too Give them Call to purify your dirty Panchayat, Ministers, MLAs, MPs?etc ? The group also wants to close down the Goa Portuguese Consulate ? Publicity stunt? Comments : Camilo Fernandes The report and picture of the so called freedom fighters purifying sea at Khariwado in Hearld dt. 26/11/10 is a joke. It would be interesting to know how many of these loyal?? freedom fighters/their family members have opted for Portuguese citizenship. If they are against the Portuguese/foreigners and sincere, then why do want their family members to be educated in English Catholic schools and instead be proud to be educated in their own schools? Why be against Portuguese/English language and learn their own local dialect? Why they or their family members are silent when Goa is being looted and ruined day by day by the Goan/Indian politicians, the builders? JoeGoaUK is spot on when he says why cannot they give a call to purity our dirty Panhayat, ministers, MLAs, MPs. etc.? Best wishes,Dev borem korum
Re: [Goanet] 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa ?
Just trying to imagine from where these guys brought the water from to cleanse the sea. Was it from the sewerage springs at Kesarwal or from the chemical springs of Zuari? Or was it organic, something like Panchagavya or tulsi-neem mix? -Soter
Re: [Goanet] FORMER IGP KD SINGH SON’S CAR CRASH C OST THE TAX PAYER Rs. 4 ,33, 200
Wrt this matter, I agree entirely with Aires' disgust with these babulals. The basic point is this: Unless KD Singh reported the car to be missing, when he realised it was missing, it is his responsibility. The is a well known common law doctrine called RESPONDEAT SUPERIOR i.e. Let the master answer. KD Singh should be sued not only for the damage to the car but also for the damage to public property (apart from being charged for dangerous driving). jc The TORT doctrine that imposes responsibility upon one person for the failure of another, with whom the person has a special relationship (such as PARENT AND CHILD, employer and employee, or owner of vehicle and driver), to exercise such care as a reasonably prudent person would use under similar circumstances. Read more: Vicarious Liability - Car, Negligence, Driver, Employee, Employer, and Doctrine http://law.jrank.org/pages/11107/Vicarious-Liability.html On 27 November 2010 06:11, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote: The 4th December 2009 car crash by the son of Goa’s former IGP, Mr. K.D.Singh while driving his father’s official a Toyota Innova GA-07-G-0063 has cost the State exchequer Rs 4, 33, 200. This has been revealed in information obtained under the Right to Information Act. Siddharth Singh the IGP’s son was driving his father’s official vehicle along with his friends to a night club at Vasco that late night when he crashed the vehicle also damaging two electricity poles.etc
Re: [Goanet] FORMER IGP KD SINGH SON’S CAR CRASH C OST THE TAX PAYER Rs. 4 ,33, 200
And to see that Goans are voting for the CONGRESS PARTY . The question is: ? Would the BJP do any better?? It is no wonder that one of the rare geographical holes of the world is the Assembly Complex at Porvorim which sinks tax-payer's money rather than anything else. Cheers floriano goasuraj www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:41 PM Subject: [Goanet] FORMER IGP KD SINGH SON’S CAR CRASH COST THE TAX PAYER Rs. 4 ,33, 200 The 4th December 2009 car crash by the son of Goa’s former IGP, Mr. K.D.Singh while driving his father’s official a Toyota Innova GA-07-G-0063 has cost the State exchequer Rs 4, 33, 200. This has been revealed in information obtained under the Right to Information Act. In another information furnished under the Right to Information Act it has been informed that Rs 1833 a month is being deducted from the salary of Police Driver Vinod Malvankar for an accident a Police van being driven by him had met with on 27th August 2003. The records reveal that police constable Vinod Malvankar is being penalized despite the Additional Sessions Judge and a police departmental inquiry as well ruling that he was not driving rash or negligently. If indiscipline and cover up was by higher ups in the police force not much could be expected from the lower ranks. May be this liberation day the Goa Government should reward former IGP Mr. K.D.Singh with a gold medal for having successfully drilled a Rs 4, 33, 200 deep hole into the State exchequer. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] HC scraps land for SEZs in Goa
Respect Justices like Justice F M Reis, for having a sound legal mind, and senses. Crap on the others with strength and being, giving them stares, wherever one sees them, including if they go to places of worship. venantius j pinto Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:59:01 +0530 From: sez virodhi manch svm@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] HC scraps land for SEZs in Goa http://amkanakasez.blogspot.com/2010/11/hc-scraps-land-for-sezs-in-goa.html HC SETBACK FOR SEZs HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, NOV 26 The Bombay High Court at Goa on Friday quashed and set aside the land allotments to the seven Special Economic Zone (SEZ) developers in the State. Justice F M Reis, who passed the judgement as the other Justice A S Oka is not sitting at Panjim, also asked the developers to apply afresh for the land. (DEL)
[Goanet] Saxphone girl Miss Blena! wins hearts of Goans in Qatar
Saxphone girl Miss Blena! Blena D'souza-Goan Saxaphone player based in Qatar She was felicitated by Doha Goans Sports Club at Goa Day programmed held on November 19 in Doha http://goansinqatar.blogspot.com/2010/11/saxphone-girl-miss-blena.html Safari Mall and coca Coal were the major sponsors of the Goa day held in Qatar http://goansinqatar.blogspot.com/2010/11/safari-mall-qatar-sponsors-of-goa-day.html Emelina Soares was one fo the talented Goa girl who was honoured at the Goa day in Qatar http://goansinqatar.blogspot.com/2010/11/talented-emelina-soares-honoured-at-goa.html
[Goanet] Goans in Qatar support Qatar's bid to host the 2022 football World Cup
Goans in Qatar support Qatar's bid to host the 2022 football World Cup http://goansinqatar.blogspot.com/2010/11/goans-in-qatar-support-qatars-bid-to.html
Re: [Goanet] Jaggery and buildings
On 27 November 2010 19:36, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: No .they (the builders) were not Goans not even your Goanese...but they would be quite spirited in the evening courtesy Dalda (the code word for Navsagar)..the awful smell would permeate the atmosphere of very colourful hyderabadi. YUCK! Just for the sake of discussion, isn't it entirely possible that someone from some other State could replace the word Navsagar (new ocean) with say, Feni, above? .. but they would be quite spirited in the evening courtesy ... Feni... the awful smell would permeate the atmosphere ... YUCK! Aren't we guilty of the very same thing we accuse others for? Stereotyping and chauvnism against a culture which is not ours? FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Savio Here - Wildtrek Adventures
Vazra Sakla at Virdi village in Maharashta has been admired by many from the vantage point at the Chorla Ghat. On Sunday 12th December 2010, Wildtrek will be organizing a trek to the base of this waterfall. Passing through dense forests of the western ghats trekkers will walk through the village, fields, streams, valleys and over mountains. To be part of this trek call Dr. Prithvi 9822123458 / Savio 9822155805 for enquiries and bookings.
Re: [Goanet] The so called freedom fighters purifying sea at Khariwado are a joke and fake.
Goasuraj is watch with great interest In fact we are happy rather than being angry to see these antics by this undesirable breed who are running themselves out of the monthly PENSIONS. Cheers floriano goasuraj www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: [Goanet] The so called freedom fighters purifying sea at Khariwado are a joke and fake. From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa ? ? ?Portuguese ship 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa? Says Freedom Fighters ? FFs suddenly turned into God men now ? Purifiers ? I am sure they can purify our dirty politicians too Give them Call to purify your dirty Panchayat, Ministers, MLAs, MPs?etc ? The group also wants to close down the Goa Portuguese Consulate ? Publicity stunt? Comments : Camilo Fernandes The report and picture of the so called freedom fighters purifying sea at Khariwado in Hearld dt. 26/11/10 is a joke. It would be interesting to know how many of these loyal?? freedom fighters/their family members have opted for Portuguese citizenship. If they are against the Portuguese/foreigners and sincere, then why do want their family members to be educated in English Catholic schools and instead be proud to be educated in their own schools? Why be against Portuguese/English language and learn their own local dialect? Why they or their family members are silent when Goa is being looted and ruined day by day by the Goan/Indian politicians, the builders? JoeGoaUK is spot on when he says why cannot they give a call to purity our dirty Panhayat, ministers, MLAs, MPs. etc.? Best wishes,Dev borem korum =
[Goanet] Unchained melody of Goa
http://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report_unchained-melody-of-goa_1471790
[Goanet] Goa news for November 28, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Wearing jeans not good - FV Current Waves auka-doobi-premieres-at-the-film-festival-in-goa/135899-8-66.htmlIFFI: 'Nauka Doobi' premieres at the film festival in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGtQyWG9rQvoryxFxlxc57AFxvjkQurl=http://cw.topnews.in/content/22267-wearing-jeans-not-good *** IFFI to host more than 8500 delegates - Indian Express azaar-that-seeks-to-bond-the-film-world/articleshow/6991515.cmsA bazaar that seeks to bond the film world http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG7KMXyuGi-cWgpDePNXqbxSpFY3gurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/IFFI-to-host-more-than-8500-delegates/714901/ *** Regional films steal the show at Goa film festival - Times of India n-the-IFFI-halo/Article1-631553.aspxCrack in the IFFI halo http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHtNWa0tRPvWI0dO9C4pAl1T_aYGwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Regional-films-steal-the-show-at-Goa-film-festival/articleshow/7002871.cms *** Court upholds Goa Govt's decision to scrap SEZ projects - Hindu Business Line wned Goa Industrial Development ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHAwX8Nz-nRPgGvsAJTm1dMeVOTRgurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/11/27/stories/2010112751940100.htm *** New train to connect Pune, Navi Mumbai, Goa, Mangalore and Ernakulam via ... - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisBy Rajendra Aklekar http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHD3z8xPDTo8991h-r_2ZScb102Lwurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_new-train-to-connect-pune-navi-mumbai-goa-mangalore-and-ernakulam-via-konkan-railway_1473182 *** Combing operationsnear Paroda temple - Times of India uthorities-told-to-follow-security-advisory/articleshow/6984407.cmsReligious authorities told to follow security advisory http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFjhoPWpy-syHCpaVbocEEZj8g_dwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Combing-operationsnear-Paroda-temple/articleshow/6991372.cms *** Ban sale of agricultural land to non-Goans: Congress - Economic Times oans considering the land resource crunch here, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFoX46nBcDMbZ4glGmAuVp0qUO_igurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Ban-sale-of-agricultural-land-to-non-Goans-Congress/articleshow/6999701.cms *** Global Goans seek special status for Goa - Times of India ay global Goan ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHXRf_4YLn3aa7JRo-8vRiimRi-iAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Global-Goans-seek-special-status-for-Goa/articleshow/6997943.cms *** Facebook 'friend' robs techie in Goa - Times of India ased Russian girl on the social networking site and was robbed by his virtual friend when he arrived in Goa to ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGaE73eO7m4IWmPxLd5eILZ-icgTQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Facebook-friend-robs-techie-in-Goa/articleshow/6998769.cms *** Independent filmmakers are wiped out in India: Onir - NDTV.com TV.comPTI My Brother Nikhil director Onir, who is in Goa to look for producers for his next film project 'Shab' (Night), feels that the corporate system in ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGO2g9KJw5cNdEjPSQnPCbbu2ZcMAurl=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20100161394keyword=bollywoodsubcatg=MOVIESINDIA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions
From: U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com In this context, Gabe Menezes asks: Does it mean that to bring about a complete reversal, Catholics will have to revert to Hindu names and also renounce their Religion? Gabe, I did not know that Catholicism originated in Portugal. **No, but it is the Portuguese and other unknown harbingers of Faith who brought the wealth of Christian Faith to India and Goa. We should understand that the objective of the protest is to ensure that the Portuguese as a colonist are not glorified. It is my impression that the present day Portuguese do not empathise with those Portuguese who did so much harm to others in colonies all over the world. They also do not empathise with the regime of Salazar and others. **Let us not judge them with our modern eyes... They saw things in a different light. What is wrong is wrong, but time gives a different perspective to them... Salazar lived in his own times, doing what was needed for those times... Present day Portuguese do not have interest in Goa, as their ancestors had. Our present day Indians have more interest in the Portuguese passport... Present day fundamentalists of India should also not be glorified. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] This Is Not Journalism as We Know It
To Goanet - More on the Kangress lobbyists Burqa Dutt and Vir Sanghvi. For any political journalist worth her salt, the alarm bells would have gone off at this stage, and should have led to one of the biggest stories related to government formation in this country: ‘Tata telecom PR chief handles negotiations for telecom portfolio.’ Did you happen to see this story onNDTV? Barkha not only failed to do this story, by her own admission, she actually passed on information that she, as a journalist, had acquired from the Congress to the head of a PR agency handling two of the biggest corporate groups in the country, each with more than mere curiosity about who gets into the Cabinet. http://openthemagazine.com/article/voices/this-is-not-journalism-as-we-know-it Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions (update)
This whole controversy is another example where Goans have a difficult time to see beyond the tip of their nose. The whole idea of a celebration (if one wants to term it such) would be for socio-economic advancement of the natives - both Hindu and Catholic in Goa. If Goans were smart, this event could be a bonanza-year for tourism to Goa from Portugal and else where in Europe. Why are the Brits so ga-ga about the upcoming royal wedding? It is all about tourists pounds ... pounds ... pounds. Similarly President Obama's recent visit to St. Xavier's college, Mumbai, would have been utilized by other groups (including Indian) to maximum advantage. Sikhs were very disappointed on the last minute cancellation of the President's visit to Amritsar. The alumni of SFX college should have started a fund and along with a matching grant from the US state department have a new wing built onto the college for the benefit of the next generation of Mumbai's residents, graduating from SFX college. It is still not too late for this effort. Regards, GL - Flora I definitely think there is nothing better to do in life than dwell in the past and rot in the dung!
[Goanet] Funningly speaking by Floriano Lobo of Goa Su-Raj
Comments : Camilo Fernandes Floriano's below post is very humorous but very true. Some of our so called Goans are Goans only in name. Rather than riduculing we should stand and support Goans who are doing their best for a better Goa. Best wishes,Camilo Fernandes From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.comTo: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!Subject: [Goanet] Funningly Speaking by Floriano Lobo of Goa Su-RajI get this call from a long time friend of mine from Salcete.Hello Floriano he says, how're things, how's the party doing?Hello dear I say nice to hear from you in a long time. What's cooking at your end? - As for me, I couldn't have been better and more relaxed... with my building having gotten the Occupancy Certificate which Dayanand Narvekar tried hardest to stop and where he has to give me credit for sending him on a wild goose chase ... the shit ultimately has hit him in his ugly face... Yes, It sure feels good
[Goanet] Anti-Portuguese resolutions passed by group in Panaji
Which 'Desh' and what 'Prem' they are referring to? I 'Desh' they mean India, since these chaps don RSS colours it has to be. I guess. Did India exist 450 years ago? If they plan to undo Portuguese, Goa cannot be part of India. India came into existence in 1947, 4 centuries after Portuguese occupation of Goa. That means Goa was never part of India until its forceful occupation by India. Now, if their reference of 'Desh' and 'Prem' is Goa then undo anything and everything the 'Portuguese' had done and left in Goa after 450 year of rule And first thing First. FF's should stop receiving pension that they had been getting by force since 1961 and in fact should return all the money that they had received in the past. It is because of 'Portuguese' they get it. So no 'Portuguese' no 'Money' Change the Goa's Civil Code which is a Portuguese law that gives all Goans (including RSS and BJP in Goa) undivided inheritance rights to Sons and Daughter. Demolish all the 'Portuguese' build houses, and first should be Raj Bhavan then 'Camara' buildings in all towns, Marmagoa Port and the Old Goa Churches etc. Then a very pertinent question of 'evacuee property' but it should not be Mayem but Dabolim and and all the illegally occupied land by Army and Navy that includes Ilha de Anjediva. Lastly revoke the 1974 treaty signed by Indian with Portugal if RSS and BJP sponsored DNS feels humiliated by the Portuguese Rule in Goa. Goa had not experienced events like Jallianwala Bagh in Goa to condemn Portuguese. India had many events like Jallianwala Bagh yet had written its constitution in the same colonial language and runs its day to day administration in the very same colonial language 'ENGLISH'. Goans had lived as part of Portugal for 450 years much longer then they lived with India. The Indian Prime Minister, Nehru hAD himself had admitted that Goans had a different culture than that of rest of India. RSS and BJP sponsored DNS is playing vote bank politics nothing much in it. If RSS and BJP sponsored DNS want to turn the clock in the annals of history books then they have to go back to their mother womb and be born again! RSS and BJP Murdabad! Viva Goa! Viva Portugal! Agnelo Pinheiro
Re: [Goanet] 'Sagres' polluted Sea water in Goa ?
On Sat Nov 27 08:21:38 PST 2010 soter soter at bsnl.in wrote: Just trying to imagine from where these guys brought the water from to cleanse the sea. Was it from the sewerage springs at Kesarwal or from the chemical springs of Zuari? Or was it organic, something like Panchagavya or tulsi-neem mix? –Soter COMMENT : Come on Soter, Don’t tell me you do not know in what “Desh premi” purify themselves. For them it is purifying, for the educated it is polluting. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
