[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-16 Thread Cajetan Alvares
Hi All,
Sorry about the delay. I have been sleeping under a rock.
The Honourable Speaker of the Assembly is so powerful that he can 'shutup'
the MLAs.
Why can't he silence an ordinary citizen who has declared that he does not
vote for Congress?
Sorry Selma, the word sorry is very commonly used by the UK Ministers who
are humble enough to recognise their mistake.
ALL Goan MLAs are beyond that, they do not know the meaning of the word,
they think it is a humiliating word for the MLAs to use.
After all they are treated like gods in Goa, Goans pleading with them to
come and give the prizes at their annual sports events, dramas at Kala
Academy and such like.
MLAs are above all the Gazette Officers of Goa and all the hoi-palloi, how
dare you tell him to apologize? Have you no respect for him?
Democracy in Goa is only 49 years old (just).
These fogies were brought up by the Salazar regime, what do you expect.
Caj.
(I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a
move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of
centuries.- Selma)


[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-16 Thread Venantius Pinto
It may come across or be reagrded as a joke, but its still worth trying to
get him to offer an apology. As I always say, apologies do nothing--BUT
these are small victories and PR for both sides, considerin the nature of
our socially engineered societies. Perhaps Selma could write to the Speaker,
and try and meet IT, and give IT a sense of the intellectual outrage created
in the minds of the Goans, big and small, rich and richer, those born on
tiny plots and others on larger tracts, etc., etc. It just may dissolve into
tears, at having ridiculed its Goan sisters and brothers. HE may rethink his
own humanity.

It may go after me too; in itty-bitterness.

venantius j pinto


Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:18:49 +0100
From: Cajetan Alvares cajul...@googlemail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Comedy show

I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a
move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of
centuries. selma
--
Are you joking?
You have lived in UK for too long, looks like it.
In UK, Ministers carry their own briefcases and work papers.
In India there are 10 voters, I mean voters, ready to carry their luggage
for free and 9 say sorry for not doing so.
Why should the MLAs say sorry?
In UK, ministers cycle to work, in India/Goa they want to be driven or
better still carried.
Sorry, is a bad word in India.
Caj.


[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-16 Thread Cajetan Alvares
BUTthese are small victories and PR for both sides, considerin the nature
ofour socially engineered societies.- Venantius Pinto.
-
Hi,
What about an apology from Cherchill?
Instead, he will bribe them and tell them to lie.
Considering the nature of our society - thats how it is.
Always one sided.
What bugs me is, why isn't any one prepared to go to jail for these two.
Caj.


[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-16 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
Hi,
What about an apology from Cherchill?
Instead, he will bribe them and tell them to lie.
Considering the nature of our society - thats how it is.
Always one sided.
What bugs me is, why isn't any one prepared to go to jail for these two.
Caj.

Dear Caj.

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Count me. 

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[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-16 Thread Venantius Pinto
Hi Cajetan,
I agree on both counts, regarding Churchill or anyone else? Nothing against
you Cajetan Alvares. If it was I would say so, as I have to others in the
past. Besides that look at CBA--he looks so sad and depressing. I cannot
believe he even has the ability to beat anyone--in that he is not hard to
bring him down physically one-on-one. Perhaps its time our guys strated
practicing some self-defence.

My point strictly had to do with Selma having her say; and addressing the
part of her question being seen or nurtured as a joke--albeit rhetorically
or not. So if someone had said the same things about Churchill, I would say
the same -- to go ahead and give it a shot. If they asked for my signature,
I would give it.

I live outside India, still am a Indian citizen. So I too (taking into
account recent variables) can get arrested when I come to India. Considering
deals possibly in the works among various countries--one may even get
arrested if one is of Indian origin. Who knows Bab Cajetan? I am ready for
it, and have been since a child. This does not me that I or you for that
matter, should make a point. I draw, you do what you do. In between we
occasionally have our say.

We have become a different people, and people are rarely willing to go to
jail. To do so, for one among a myriad of factors we may not know, but one
that we know for sure -- is that it takes conviction. This does not mean
that people do not have conviction or it is impure, but even those who
do follow a principled path; contemplate factors besides conviction in
shying/avoiding from arrest.
Most societies are one-sided. Our is more obvious--pardon me, blatant. All
we can do in my opinion is to be gracious. This is not for all, but still
works, depending on how one approaches life's hurdles. I say this to those
who babble about Gandhi and conviction and the nonviolence for that matter.
People wear learned moral values to negotiate life. They are true forms or
beliefs, only for a few. For most, it is a camouflage. Its is akin to the
gilly-suits that snipers wear, based on the terrain. It changes, when
someone desires something that one may have, say angling for a dear daughter
spirit, or mind or her body. Things will never be the same, as we see our
impressions of the word same, in our minds eyes.
venantius j pinto


Message: 8
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:56:26 +0100
From: Cajetan Alvares cajul...@googlemail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Comedy show

BUTthese are small victories and PR for both sides, considerin the nature
ofour socially engineered societies.- Venantius Pinto.
-
Hi,
What about an apology from Cherchill?
Instead, he will bribe them and tell them to lie.
Considering the nature of our society - thats how it is.
Always one sided.
What bugs me is, why isn't any one prepared to go to jail for these two.
Caj.


[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-15 Thread Cajetan Alvares
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a
move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of
centuries. selma
--
Are you joking?
You have lived in UK for too long, looks like it.
In UK, Ministers carry their own briefcases and work papers.
In India there are 10 voters, I mean voters, ready to carry their luggage
for free and 9 say sorry for not doing so.
Why should the MLAs say sorry?
In UK, ministers cycle to work, in India/Goa they want to be driven or
better still carried.
Sorry, is a bad word in India.
Caj.


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

Folks,

I have now received emails from 25 people in total to include their names on 
the comedy show petition letter. Appended below is the final draft of the 
letter that will hopefully appear in Herald. There was a suggestion to include 
our professions. But I could not do it because I did not know the profession of 
most people on the list, and I did not want to do a half-baked job.

Cheers,

Santosh


LETTER

Dear Sir,

I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against him and Peter 
Fernandes, two private citizens, for speaking their mind in public, just proved 
this fact.

I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir and Peter to defend my right to 
freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours. I 
ask all Goans to sign on with us in this symbolic stand to affirm the principle 
that in a free democracy ordinary citizens, individually and collectively, are 
more powerful than any branch of their government or any elected representative 
that serves at their pleasure.

Sincerely,

Alfred de Tavares, Sweden
Anand Virgincar, U.K.
Augusto Pinto, India
Blasio Fernandes, U.A.E.
Cecil Pinto, India
Cornel Da Costa, U.K.
Diana Pinto, India
Eddie Fernandes, U.K.
Gabe Menezes, U.K.
Gabriel de Figueiredo, Australia
George Pinto, U.S.A.
Ignatius Fernandes, U.K.
Kevin Fernandes, U.A.E.
Louise Fernandes, U.A.E.
Marlon Menezes, U.S.A.
Marshall Mendonza, India
Mervyn Lobo, Canada
Sandeep Heble, India
Santosh Helekar, U.S.A.
Selma Carvalho, U.K. 
Shrikant Barve, India
Uday Barad, India
Venantius Pinto, U.S.A.
Vinay Natekar, Kuwait
Wendell Rodricks, India


  


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Carvalho
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Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

Dear Santosh,
I really fear that greater damage has already been done by the Speaker than is 
as yet comprehended by the citizens at large. Apparently papers are refusing 
the carry risque articles for fear of repercussions. 

I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a move 
like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of centuries.

best,
selma

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
 To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:26 AM
 -
 



  


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Francis
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism when it
mentions this free democratic country of ours.  Many of the
petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens.

Substituting free India would solve the problem.

I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their right to
express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a problem with
the following contentions:

a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual legislators
who comprise it who are jokers.

b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than government or
elected representatives. The only time they have the power is when
electing them with the expectation that they will uphold the
constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation - none of
which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of.

While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time for the Varca
comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the security detail
in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post.

Roland.



On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Santosh Helekarchimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Folks,
 I have now received emails from 25 people in total to include their names on 
 the comedy show petition letter. Appended below is the final draft of the 
 letter that will hopefully appear in Herald. There was a suggestion to 
 include our professions. But I could not do it because I did not know the 
 profession of most people on the list, and I did not want to do a half-baked 
 job.
 Cheers,
 Santosh

 LETTER

 Dear Sir,

 I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
 threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against him and 
 Peter Fernandes, two private citizens, for speaking their mind in public, 
 just proved this fact.

 I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir and Peter to defend my right 
 to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic country of 
 ours. I ask all Goans to sign on with us in this symbolic stand to affirm the 
 principle that in a free democracy ordinary citizens, individually and 
 collectively, are more powerful than any branch of their government or any 
 elected representative that serves at their pleasure.

 Sincerely,

 Alfred de Tavares, Sweden
 Anand Virgincar, U.K.
 Augusto Pinto, India
 Blasio Fernandes, U.A.E.
 Cecil Pinto, India
 Cornel Da Costa, U.K.
 Diana Pinto, India
 Eddie Fernandes, U.K.
 Gabe Menezes, U.K.
 Gabriel de Figueiredo, Australia
 George Pinto, U.S.A.
 Ignatius Fernandes, U.K.
 Kevin Fernandes, U.A.E.
 Louise Fernandes, U.A.E.
 Marlon Menezes, U.S.A.
 Marshall Mendonza, India
 Mervyn Lobo, Canada
 Sandeep Heble, India
 Santosh Helekar, U.S.A.
 Selma Carvalho, U.K.
 Shrikant Barve, India
 Uday Barad, India
 Venantius Pinto, U.S.A.
 Vinay Natekar, Kuwait
 Wendell Rodricks, India







-- 
Roland Francis
http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com
+1 (416) 453.3371


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Venantius Pinto
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

Santosh, the points made by Roland Francis are very relevant and make sense
both legally as well as would clearly express the understanding in such
matters of the signatory group. I missed this inadvertent glitch in the
midst of working.

venantius


 From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Comedy show


 Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism when it
 mentions this free democratic country of ours.  Many of the
 petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens.

 Substituting free India would solve the problem.

 I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their right to
 express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a problem with
 the following contentions:

 a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual legislators
 who comprise it who are jokers.

 b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than government or
 elected representatives. The only time they have the power is when
 electing them with the expectation that they will uphold the
 constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation - none of
 which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of.

 While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time for the Varca
 comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the security detail
 in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post.

 Roland.





Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

Roland,

You make good points, and I know that our letter will be criticized, as any 
letter would be by people against whom it is directed. I will make the change 
regarding free India, but I have a different perspective on the points you 
made. 

1. I believe India is our native country, irrespective of our current 
citizenship status.

2. The agreement with Samir is with his reference to the assembly as a comedy 
show. Please read his article. 

3. I disagree that the power of individuals is limited to election time. My 
understanding is that the essence of any free democracy is that power resides 
in the people, not in the government or in any elected representative. While 
the right to vote is definitely the most consequential expression of this 
power, the right to free speech is perennial, and in my opinion, more 
important. Our letter reclaims this power.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism
 when it
 mentions this free democratic country of ours.  Many
 of the
 petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens.
 
 Substituting free India would solve the problem.
 
 I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their
 right to
 express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a
 problem with
 the following contentions:
 
 a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual
 legislators
 who comprise it who are jokers.
 
 b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than
 government or
 elected representatives. The only time they have the power
 is when
 electing them with the expectation that they will uphold
 the
 constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation -
 none of
 which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of.
 
 While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time
 for the Varca
 comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the
 security detail
 in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post.
 
 Roland.
 
 


  


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-13 Thread Roland Francis
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in
London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm
  Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com

-

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Santosh, please add me to your list.

Roland.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Santosh Helekarchimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Roland,

 You make good points, and I know that our letter will be criticized, as any 
 letter would be by people against whom it is directed. I will make the change 
 regarding free India, but I have a different perspective on the points you 
 made.

 1. I believe India is our native country, irrespective of our current 
 citizenship status.

 2. The agreement with Samir is with his reference to the assembly as a comedy 
 show. Please read his article.

 3. I disagree that the power of individuals is limited to election time. My 
 understanding is that the essence of any free democracy is that power resides 
 in the people, not in the government or in any elected representative. While 
 the right to vote is definitely the most consequential expression of this 
 power, the right to free speech is perennial, and in my opinion, more 
 important. Our letter reclaims this power.

 Cheers,

 Santosh


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-09 Thread edpinto

-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Apologies Santosh and all our expats, I really didn't mean it like it 
sounded. Every Goan ,whether in the state or out of it is doing whatever 
they can with a heart full of love for the motherland. And we have to put 
all our resources together as we try to salvage whatever is left of Goa.


Diana


Diana,

You are right. It takes much greater courage for resident Goans to stick 
their necks out in this case. But there could be warrants issued for our 
arrests as soon as we land in Dabolim.


Cheers,

Santosh 





Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-08 Thread edpinto

-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Santosh,

There are too many expat Goans on your Aguada guest list. But I think you 
need more local flavour since the Aguada is located right here in Goa and 
and the period of the holiday package may not coincide with the schedules 
of most of our expats. So you can also add my name.


Diana Pinto 





Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

2009/8/8 edpinto edpi...@sancharnet.in



 Santosh,

 There are too many expat Goans on your Aguada guest list. But I think you
 need more local flavour since the Aguada is located right here in Goa and
 and the period of the holiday package may not coincide with the schedules
 of most of our expats. So you can also add my name.

 Diana Pinto

 RESPONSE: The problem with being local, your wish might, just might be
granted. So those who are local are a thousand fold more courageous than
those of us who shoot from abroad.


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Diana,

You are right. It takes much greater courage for resident Goans to stick their 
necks out in this case. But there could be warrants issued for our arrests as 
soon as we land in Dabolim.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, edpinto edpi...@sancharnet.in wrote:
 
 Santosh,
 
 There are too many expat Goans on your Aguada guest list.
 But I think you need more local flavour since the Aguada is
 located right here in Goa and and the period of the holiday
 package may not coincide with the schedules of most of our
 expats. So you can also add my name.
 
 Diana Pinto 
 
 


  


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-07 Thread marlon menezes
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Santosh, 
Count me in. Assuming I make it to Goa this year, I will at most only be able 
to stay at the Taj Aguada Prison for 2 weeks. Do they take rambunctious 3 and 5 
year olds? If so, please inform them to make arrangements for my kids as well. 
Perhaps they can keep them locked up for a bit longer than 3 weeks (.. I'm 
thinking 10 years).
Marlon



- Original Message 
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com

Mervyn,

Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails to the speaker and 
other MLAs. But more importantly, we should write it as a letter-petition to 
the Herald newspaper with our names on it:

LETTER

Dear Sir,

I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a private 
citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing to 
spend time in prison with Samir to defend my right to freely express this 
opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours.

Sincerely,

Santosh Helekar 

Goanetters, if you are willing to add your name to this petition, please say so 
in this forum or privately to me. I will send it to the editor of Herald as 
soon as I receive 100 names. I need to know how many people will be there with 
us because I have to make reservations at Aguada. We need at least 100 bodkam 
because ex-President Pandurang has told me that we get a special discount for a 
party of 100 or more. 

Regarding sending the above letter as an email to the actors in the comedy 
show, their email addresses are listed on the following website:

http://www.goavidhansabha.gov.in/mlas.php

Cheers,

Santosh


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-07 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
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Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Hi Santosh,

Please add my name to the petition. 

I may not always agree with yours or Samir's opinions, but in this case, I am 
willing risk the state of my health to defend freedom of speech in Goa. 

Cheers,

Gabriel.



- Original Message 
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Thursday, 6 August, 2009 11:19:01 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Comedy Show


  
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[Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-07 Thread Blasio Fernandes
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Santosh,

You can count me in too. Though not in Goa, frequent Goa quite often..

Blasio

On Wed, 8/5/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails to the 
 speaker and other MLAs. But more importantly, we should write it as a 
 letter-petition to the Herald newspaper with our names on it:
 




Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Dear Marshall and others,

Thanks for showing the courage of your convictions. I was especially touched by 
the fact that a mother of a 10 year-old girl wrote to me privately to tell me 
that her daughter wants to join her parents on the paid vacation to Aguada to 
reaffirm her desire to live in a free country where ordinary citizens have more 
power than their government and elected officials.

I am appending below an updated letter to Herald with names of your fellow 
inmates at Aguada. About 20 or so have signed up so far to share the daily 
rations with Samir Kelekar and Peter Fernandes. I thank Vivian for offering to 
supplement our rations. The names of inmates below are in alphabetical order. 
It is indeed fitting that Alfredchacha leads the pack.

Cheers,

Santosh

LETTER

Dear Sir,

I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against him and Peter 
Fernandes, two private citizens, for speaking their mind in public, just proved 
this fact. 

I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir and Peter to defend my right to 
freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours. I 
ask all Goans to sign on with us in this symbolic stand to affirm the principle 
that in a free democracy ordinary citizens, individually and collectively, are 
more powerful than any branch of their government or any elected representative 
that serves at their pleasure.

Sincerely,

Alfred de Tavares, Denmark
Anand Virgincar, U.K.
Augusto Pinto, India
Blasio Fernandes, U.A.E.
Cecil Pinto, India
Cornel Da Costa, U.K.
Eddie Fernandes, U.K.
George Pinto, U.S.A.
Gabriel de Figueiredo, Australia
Ignatius Fernandes, U.K.
Kevin Fernandes, U.A.E.
Louise Fernandes, U.A.E.
Marlon Menezes, U.S.A.
Marshall Mendonza, India
Mervyn Lobo, Canada
Sandeep Heble, India
Santosh Helekar, U.S.A.
Selma Carvalho, U.K. 
Shrikant Barve, India
Wendell Rodricks, India



--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Dear Santosh,
 Please add my name to the petition.
 
 Regards,
 
 Marshall
 


  


[Goanet] comedy show

2009-08-07 Thread Venantius Pinto
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Hi Santosh,
Please include me in standing alongside Samir and Peter.

venantius j pinto


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-06 Thread Wendell Rodricks

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/


Add my name to the list as well
Wendell Rodricks

2009/8/6 Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com

 Santosh Helekar wrote:
 I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show.
 The threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a
 private citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this
 fact. I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir to defend my
 right to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic
 country of ours.

 ---



 Dear Santosh,

 Please add my name to the petition. I am willing to spend time in jail
 to defend freedom of speech. I may not agree with what Samir said but
 he has every right to state his opinion and this right cannot be
 curtailed.

 Cheers!

 Cecil

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Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-06 Thread Carvalho

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/


Santosh,
please do add my name to the petition. Although currently not in Goa, I would 
gladly enjoy the luxury of Aguada to safeguard our freedom of speech.

Let us hope Herald carries this letter.

best,
selma

--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails
 to the speaker and other MLAs. But more importantly, we
 should write it as a letter-petition to the Herald newspaper
 with our names on it:
 



  


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-06 Thread Gabe Menezes

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/


2009/8/6 Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com


 Mervyn,

 Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails to the speaker
 and other MLAs. But more importantly, we should write it as a
 letter-petition to the Herald newspaper with our names on it:

 LETTER

 Dear Sir,

 I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The
 threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a private
 citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing
 to spend time in prison with Samir to defend my right to freely express this
 opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours.

 Sincerely,

 Santosh Helekar

 Goanetters, if you are willing to add your name to this petition, please
 say so in this forum or privately to me. I will send it to the editor of
 Herald as soon as I receive 100 names. I need to know how many people will
 be there with us because I have to make reservations at Aguada. We need at
 least 100 bodkam because ex-President Pandurang has told me that we get a
 special discount for a party of 100 or more.

 Regarding sending the above letter as an email to the actors in the comedy
 show, their email addresses are listed on the following website:

 http://www.goavidhansabha.gov.in/mlas.php

 Cheers,

 Santosh


 QUESTION: Who is starting what, one by Bosco, one by you, another shot by
Selma.

Desperately need a coordinator, to put one letter with all our signatures
together - start one at petitions on line!

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-06 Thread Alfred de Tavares
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-


Santosh,

 

Please add my name.

 

Alfred de Tavares
 
 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:19:01 -0700
 From: chimbel...@yahoo.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Comedy Show
 

 Mervyn,
 
 Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails to the speaker and 
 other MLAs. But more importantly, we should write it as a letter-petition to 
 the Herald newspaper with our names on it:
 
 LETTER
 
 Dear Sir,
 
 I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
 threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a private 
 citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing 
 to spend time in prison with Samir to defend my right to freely express this 
 opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Santosh Helekar 
 
 Goanetters, if you are willing to add your name to this petition, please say 
 so in this forum or privately to me. I will send it to the editor of Herald 
 as soon as I receive 100 names. I need to know how many people will be there 
 with us because I have to make reservations at Aguada. We need at least 100 
 bodkam because ex-President Pandurang has told me that we get a special 
 discount for a party of 100 or more. 
 
 Regarding sending the above letter as an email to the actors in the comedy 
 show, their email addresses are listed on the following website:
 
 http://www.goavidhansabha.gov.in/mlas.php
 
 Cheers,
 
 Santosh
 
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
  Santosh,
  I think our (i.e. all people reading here) focus should be
  on sending 
  a clear message to Rane that he is not going to get away
  with 
  this intimidation and trying to muzzle the press any more.
  
  If anyone can post Rane's email address,  I am sure that
  those 
  who are concerned about the direction Goa is going, will
  send their 
  choice words to him. Even if 10% of the 11,500 members here
  
  respond, Rane will have to take notice.
  
  The second person who has to be informed about our concerns
  is,
  Eduardo Faleiro. If someone sends his address, we could cc
  Faleiro.
  After all, his job is specifically to cater for the
  NRI's concerns. 
  
  Lastly, a big thank you to Samir Kelekar for having the
  guts to say 
  what is on his mind.
  
  Mervyn Lobo
  
 
 
 

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Re: [Goanet] Comedy Show - Sirjee replies to Pandurang

2009-08-06 Thread J. Colaco jc
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Santosh Helekar wrote:

Dear Sir,

I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show.
The threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a
private citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this
fact. I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir to defend my
right to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic
country of ours.

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Addendum FROM World Wide Comedy Club Inc - Gova Branch
TO Alibaba and his 40 'social workers'.


Dear Sirjee,

As Prejident of above-named enterprise which holds copyright for
Comedy in Publicly funded places, I hearby (by the power vested in me
by the comedians who continue to vote me in), demand that you cease
and desist immediately from engaging in comedic acts in public places.
We hold the world wide rights for that.

Joined by our co-brother firm i.e. The Society for Licentious
Behaviour (in public places), We also happy to note that Dr Samir
Kelekar is finally engaging in licentious behaviour. Bravo and About
time, we say.

All Goans are hereby encouraged to obtain licence (from us) for this purpose.

As a fair and equitable act demanded by our Con-Stitution, we hereby
acknowledge that we do NOT hold the rights for the following
'sarvajanik' activities:

1. Passing gas is houses where comedians assemble

2: Harassing women - sexually or otherwise

3: Having sweeties on the side

4: Not paying restaurants for food consumed and booze imbibed

5: Transferring land into safe (comedic) hands

6: Viijiting Sweet-Zerland to study how the banking system works
there.(Not connected to Wote-Banks)

7: Walking out 'en masse' when the 'umpire' says Sit Down

grateful for you understanding


Zuze Khalase
Prejident
From the Sea-Princess Saline Rust Factory and Museum
Gova


[Goanet] Comedy show............

2009-08-06 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

At my advanced age, I am too faint hearted and not as fool hardy as some of you 
to risk jail to stand up for our freedom.  
 
However, I give you my solemn promise, if any of you are incarcerated, I will 
visit you daily with whatever refreshments that the jail authorities will allow.
 
On a more serious note, since I am not and have never been an Indian National, 
though I am a niz Goenkar, I do not want to risk being booted out of the Goa 
I love so dearly.
I am disappointed that our politicians have chosen to create a tempest in a 
teapot.  I guess
Samir's assertions have hit home. Tut-tut !


  


[Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-06 Thread Marshall Mendonza
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Dear Santosh,
Please add my name to the petition.

Regards,

Marshall


Re: [Goanet] Comedy show

2009-08-06 Thread Mervyn Lobo
-

Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) unveils his book,
The Greatest Konkani Song Hits. Launch dates: Goa (Kala
Academy) on 9 Aug. 4 pm. U.K. (Staines) on 15 Aug. Canada on
20 Aug and US on 30 Aug. Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/

-

Marshall Mendonza wrote:
---
 Dear Santosh,
 Please add my name to the petition.
 Regards,
 Marshall

-


Folks,
This is something you do not see often on Goanet.

Two people, who cannot be described as the best of
friends, joining hands together. The cost of not doing so
will be to give a green light to the politicians in Goa to 
muzzle the press.

Most of you are aware what will follow if the politicians
do succeed in muzzling the press. 

My request to all of you, i.e. to those who have not yet 
done so, is to send an email to Santosh to have your 
name added to the petition.

Evey name on the petition helps.
Every single one.


Mervyn Lobo


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[Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-05 Thread Santosh Helekar

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


Mervyn,

Here is what I think all of us should write in our emails to the speaker and 
other MLAs. But more importantly, we should write it as a letter-petition to 
the Herald newspaper with our names on it:

LETTER

Dear Sir,

I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The 
threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a private 
citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing to 
spend time in prison with Samir to defend my right to freely express this 
opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours.

Sincerely,

Santosh Helekar 

Goanetters, if you are willing to add your name to this petition, please say so 
in this forum or privately to me. I will send it to the editor of Herald as 
soon as I receive 100 names. I need to know how many people will be there with 
us because I have to make reservations at Aguada. We need at least 100 bodkam 
because ex-President Pandurang has told me that we get a special discount for a 
party of 100 or more. 

Regarding sending the above letter as an email to the actors in the comedy 
show, their email addresses are listed on the following website:

http://www.goavidhansabha.gov.in/mlas.php

Cheers,

Santosh




--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Santosh,
 I think our (i.e. all people reading here) focus should be
 on sending 
 a clear message to Rane that he is not going to get away
 with 
 this intimidation and trying to muzzle the press any more.
 
 If anyone can post Rane's email address,  I am sure that
 those 
 who are concerned about the direction Goa is going, will
 send their 
 choice words to him. Even if 10% of the 11,500 members here
 
 respond, Rane will have to take notice.
 
 The second person who has to be informed about our concerns
 is,
 Eduardo Faleiro. If someone sends his address, we could cc
 Faleiro.
 After all, his job is specifically to cater for the
 NRI's concerns. 
 
 Lastly, a big thank you to Samir Kelekar for having the
 guts to say 
 what is on his mind.
 
 Mervyn Lobo
 


  


[Goanet] Comedy Show

2009-08-05 Thread Cecil Pinto

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


Santosh Helekar wrote:
I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show.
The threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against a
private citizen for speaking his mind in public, just proved this
fact. I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir to defend my
right to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic
country of ours.

---



Dear Santosh,

Please add my name to the petition. I am willing to spend time in jail
to defend freedom of speech. I may not agree with what Samir said but
he has every right to state his opinion and this right cannot be
curtailed.

Cheers!

Cecil

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