Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Frederick Noronha]

If the first one was a 'dig', this one is a shovel!

Anyway, Eugene has mixed up Herman Carneiro with Marlon Menezes, so I can
safely assume that it was very late in the night while he was writing this?
:-)

FN


On 21 January 2018 at 20:26, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

> Desr Fred and Marlon,
>
> I didn't mean to take a "dig" and Marlon you are sadly mistaken. I said it
> as a matter-0f-fact. Rightly, Fred deserves the title and I will fight to
> death if anyone dispytes that.
> fred should wear the crown proudly, and hope all the Goan online fora
> acknowledge thst. Fred derservs to be publicly honoured and wish all of us
> on Goanet and on other lists fine a way to do so.
> Is there an aard for such a person by the Goa givt or any NGO or private
> body?
>
> eugene


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Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Venantius J Pinto]

Dude— No need to go there. “fred should wear the crown proudly, and hope
all the Goan online fora acknowledge thst.”
And more?!
Forget digs!
Wear crown proudly!…Is there an aard for such a person by the Goa givt or
any NGO or private body?
Why churn the shevkuyo (shev / vermicelli machine contraption)?

Not kind Eugene. And on this one unlike on other, I do not have to be an
intuit. Not Innuit, for sure, but I know my way through this snow.
Just honor him with some good language — and you are certainly capable of
it.

Come on bro. Hold yourself to a higher yardstick. Life has been a shitty to
many of us. But let us keep our intellectual chops intact.
There have been a lot of pricks in our midst. But to say anything one needs
people to really speak up.
Otherwise what is the point of all our credentials?

Hey Eugene, visit me for a few days in New York. nothing sudden. Goan yes,
but reality is what it is.
Sleep on my floor. Conduct yourself well for sure. I can offer you the
little garbage I eat. I say garbage because its nothing close to what we
had in Dubai. Oh Lord.

Btw, have you noticed who is it that even talks on Goanet? You would know,
no? Because people do not care, died, moved on, were beaten down, and what
not. Others are practicing courage.
The trick is to be able to live outside ones culture. Its worth it.

The world has moved on. Embrace.
The Marlons, Hermans, Freds et all are movers and shakers in their own
ways, ambit and orbits. If it matters, and unless you can find crap in
their closets, send love.


—Venantius J Pinto

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

> Desr Fred and Marlon,
>
> I didn't mean to take a "dig" and Marlon you are sadly mistaken. I said it
> as a matter-0f-fact. Rightly, Fred deserves the title and I will fight to
> death if anyone dispytes that.
> fred should wear the crown proudly, and hope all the Goan online fora
> acknowledge thst. Fred derservs to be publicly honoured and wish all of us
> on Goanet and on other lists fine a way to do so.
> Is there an aard for such a person by the Goa givt or any NGO or private
> body?
>
> eugene
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Frederick Noronha <
> fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Even at the risk of allowing this thread to go into discussing persons
> > (instead of issues), let me say that my only contribution was sharing
> > content. That too, mostly in the past. Now, with much more Goa-related
> > content becoming available online, I see less need to be active in that
> > space. Which is why I'm "retiring" to posting the occasional link :-)
> >
> > Many individuals (especially Herman, in Goanet's case and more) have
> > contributed immensely to building the "Goan cyberworld". Among them would
> > be Marlon (websites, till this date a regular at the Goanetters' meets,
> > whenever he's in Goa), Uly Menezes (websites), Vishwas Chavan (content),
> > Eddie Fernandes (content), Joseph 'Boogie' Viegas (modems and tech), Prof
> > Gurunandan Bhat (early adopter of tech in Goa and ready to share it),
> > friends at the GNU/Linux groups in Goa, and many others who followed the
> > mid-1990s generation. I'm sure I've missed out many.
> >
> > On the other hand, one also learnt a lot of lessons from Goanet... which
> > some of us were able to replicate and repurpose while encouraging other
> > networks to grow in Goa (ILUG/FSUG, SaligaoNet, GoaJourno, Goa-Book-Club,
> > etc). Some of these are still alive and kicking.
> >
> > Subsequently, in the 2000s, a lot of other initiatives came along. Some
> > working individually, others in groups. Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp
> belongs
> > to a new generation, who have changed the world of social media in many
> > different ways.
> >
> > So, I wouldn't take Eugene's comment without a bucketful of salt ...
> though
> > I suspect that he believes that if he keeps repeating it, one day I might
> > come to believe it myself :-)
> >
> > FN
> >
> >> On 21 January 2018 at 10:30, Herman  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Eugene,
> >> I felt you took a little dig at FN in your email. He should enjoy his
> >> status as "King of the Goan Cyberworld" to the fullest given his
> >> contribution to the community.
> >
> >
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Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Eugene Correia]

Desr Fred and Marlon,

I didn't mean to take a "dig" and Marlon you are sadly mistaken. I said it as a 
matter-0f-fact. Rightly, Fred deserves the title and I will fight to death if 
anyone dispytes that.
fred should wear the crown proudly, and hope all the Goan online fora 
acknowledge thst. Fred derservs to be publicly honoured and wish all of us on 
Goanet and on other lists fine a way to do so.
Is there an aard for such a person by the Goa givt or any NGO or private body?

eugene

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Frederick Noronha  
> wrote:
> 
> Even at the risk of allowing this thread to go into discussing persons
> (instead of issues), let me say that my only contribution was sharing
> content. That too, mostly in the past. Now, with much more Goa-related
> content becoming available online, I see less need to be active in that
> space. Which is why I'm "retiring" to posting the occasional link :-)
> 
> Many individuals (especially Herman, in Goanet's case and more) have
> contributed immensely to building the "Goan cyberworld". Among them would
> be Marlon (websites, till this date a regular at the Goanetters' meets,
> whenever he's in Goa), Uly Menezes (websites), Vishwas Chavan (content),
> Eddie Fernandes (content), Joseph 'Boogie' Viegas (modems and tech), Prof
> Gurunandan Bhat (early adopter of tech in Goa and ready to share it),
> friends at the GNU/Linux groups in Goa, and many others who followed the
> mid-1990s generation. I'm sure I've missed out many.
> 
> On the other hand, one also learnt a lot of lessons from Goanet... which
> some of us were able to replicate and repurpose while encouraging other
> networks to grow in Goa (ILUG/FSUG, SaligaoNet, GoaJourno, Goa-Book-Club,
> etc). Some of these are still alive and kicking.
> 
> Subsequently, in the 2000s, a lot of other initiatives came along. Some
> working individually, others in groups. Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp belongs
> to a new generation, who have changed the world of social media in many
> different ways.
> 
> So, I wouldn't take Eugene's comment without a bucketful of salt ... though
> I suspect that he believes that if he keeps repeating it, one day I might
> come to believe it myself :-)
> 
> FN
> 
>> On 21 January 2018 at 10:30, Herman  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Eugene,
>> I felt you took a little dig at FN in your email. He should enjoy his
>> status as "King of the Goan Cyberworld" to the fullest given his
>> contribution to the community.
> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Frederick Noronha]

Even at the risk of allowing this thread to go into discussing persons
(instead of issues), let me say that my only contribution was sharing
content. That too, mostly in the past. Now, with much more Goa-related
content becoming available online, I see less need to be active in that
space. Which is why I'm "retiring" to posting the occasional link :-)

Many individuals (especially Herman, in Goanet's case and more) have
contributed immensely to building the "Goan cyberworld". Among them would
be Marlon (websites, till this date a regular at the Goanetters' meets,
whenever he's in Goa), Uly Menezes (websites), Vishwas Chavan (content),
Eddie Fernandes (content), Joseph 'Boogie' Viegas (modems and tech), Prof
Gurunandan Bhat (early adopter of tech in Goa and ready to share it),
friends at the GNU/Linux groups in Goa, and many others who followed the
mid-1990s generation. I'm sure I've missed out many.

On the other hand, one also learnt a lot of lessons from Goanet... which
some of us were able to replicate and repurpose while encouraging other
networks to grow in Goa (ILUG/FSUG, SaligaoNet, GoaJourno, Goa-Book-Club,
etc). Some of these are still alive and kicking.

Subsequently, in the 2000s, a lot of other initiatives came along. Some
working individually, others in groups. Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp belongs
to a new generation, who have changed the world of social media in many
different ways.

So, I wouldn't take Eugene's comment without a bucketful of salt ... though
I suspect that he believes that if he keeps repeating it, one day I might
come to believe it myself :-)

FN

On 21 January 2018 at 10:30, Herman  wrote:

> Dear Eugene,
> I felt you took a little dig at FN in your email. He should enjoy his
> status as "King of the Goan Cyberworld" to the fullest given his
> contribution to the community.


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Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Frederick Noronha]

Eugene, what about donkeys and journalists never retire?

FN

On 20 Jan 2018 11:26 pm, "Eugene Correia"  wrote:

> Fred,
> If you consider mu post saying thecsamecas kther posts have said, its not
> cribbing but pointing out the fact. I, as others, do appreciate your time.
> But listen to genuine complaints. Nobody is holding you by tge neck.
> One understands you are the king of the Goan cyberworld, and I feel you
> enjoy the status. I, fir one, wouldn't want to volunteer. Now that I am
> retired, I do volunteer work. Goanet is not my cup of tear, or glass of
> feni. I have happy in my role as an "active" poster.
> Eugene
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:23 AM, Venantius J Pinto <
> venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fred—
> > Avoid being defensive, or whatever you good English speakers and writers
> > say.
> > Just take what he said for what it is. Simply say: Yes we have had some
> > issues and we try to do our best.
> > That surely is the truth! Come on Dude?! No one is being malicious or
> > belligerent. At least I am not seeing it that way.
> >
> > There are a lot of things many Goanetters are appreciate of, and they
> show
> > it by the way they contribute: share, whether by analysis, original
> > articles, opinions, and like me tiny observations.
> > At least the few among the 10,000 plus. The little we say is a way of
> > appreciation, even the carping.
> >
> > Over the years, some of you have become the major ball players. Major as
> in
> > having managed to keep your independence.
> > Surely your Labor of Love has brought in some dividends too of various
> > natures. Lets us just say unique connections.
> > Now that does not mean erasure of your efforts, not at all. But an
> > awareness that you stay aware of the good that you do.
> > I am only referring to the good. And good things happen. That is the
> > universe speaking for those who are Catholics by virtue of baptism, and
> > other preferred sacraments!
> > So be happy. At least Eugene is alive and kicking. Jai Bhim, or insert
> > saint of choice. Goanet did not simply happen. As a departed friend told
> me
> > once: V you are the recipient of energy on the part of many people.
> > LIKEWISE Goanet, and of course one means you, Marlon et al, and the
> > volunteers. Zoi to that.
> >
> > Now some extrapolation, and I will use this post to elaborate something
> > that has been on my mind!
> > My being ignored on a few fronts (not to mean by you) has not stopped
> good
> > coming towards me, through other conduits. Life goes on, the river
> changes
> > course.
> > Recently, I emailed three Goans / those of Goan origin, in the Literary
> > world showcasing my interest in doing specific work. Kaim nhu. Perhaps ll
> > in Spam? Zait goddek. There have been many such instances. Its not about
> > work per se, but about that conduct — about the famed alegria / joy /
> > anand, which we profess ourselves to possess. A simple matter of saying:
> > Hey V, received your stuff. We have no use for your work, or, will keep
> you
> > in mind.
> >
> > Perhaps it has to do with my often blunt, and on occasional colorful
> (foul)
> > language. Who died and made people sainted?! I know its hard for people
> to
> > celebrate. What is worse is those who want something but do not care to
> ask
> > logically. Then there are those who do not know me from shit, and will
> want
> > something specific. Thankfully none have come in the near recent past ,
> but
> > the door can still be walked through with some respect. I put all this
> out
> > to say is this about being Goan, or is it what the mind conjured up when
> > hearing the word …ghanti.” How does one tell people to pull their heads
> out
> > from where the sun don’t shine?
> >
> > So celebrate yourself. You are regarded well. Ot you boinking us pordeshi
> > for matxo uchambov. :)
> > Aiz asa faleam nhuim.
> >
> > Best,
> > —Venantius J Pinto
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Frederick Noronha <
> > fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Eugene, Thanks but no thanks for cribbing over this. If your email
> >> account does not bounce mail (and Gmail seldom does, unless overfilled),
> >> then you should have no reason to be automatically switched to 'no
> mail' on
> >> the Goanet list.
> >>
> >> We at Goanet do appreciate that occasionally email accounts do bounce
> mail,
> >> despite everyone's best efforts. And the Goanet Volunteers Team does
> try to
> >> restore things, whenever possible.
> >>
> >> But then, this is all volunteer work
> >>
> >> Instead of simply carping, would you like to light a candle, and help
> >> improve the situation? Would you like to volunteer to help build this
> >> 23-year-old team effort by posting useful and interesting Goa-links to
> the
> >> group on a regular basis?
> >>
> >> And I don't mean just pot-shots and flame-baits against those we have
> some
> >> grudge against.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >>
> >> 

Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Herman]

Dear Eugene,


FN is right in what he says; there is no use in cursing the darkness. This 
issue has come up numerous times over the years.


The mailing list software is standard. If member's mailboxes are full and the 
emails bounce, the mailing list software will switch you to the no mail setting 
after a set number of repeated attempts to deliver mail. We've set the number 
of attempts pretty high.


Whilst not everyone wants to or can volunteer, they can prevent being switched 
to the no mail setting by maintaining their mailboxes to avoid bouncing emails 
in the first place. Users get an email telling them they have been switched to 
the no mail setting with a link to change their settings back, which takes less 
than 30 seconds.


I felt you took a little dig at FN in your email. He should enjoy his status as 
"King of the Goan Cyberworld" to the fullest given his contribution to the 
community.


Herman


From: Goanet <goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org> on behalf of Eugene Correia 
<eugene.corr...@gmail.com>
Sent: 20 January 2018 15:45:24
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

Fred,
If you consider mu post saying thecsamecas kther posts have said, its not 
cribbing but pointing out the fact. I, as others, do appreciate your time. But 
listen to genuine complaints. Nobody is holding you by tge neck.
One understands you are the king of the Goan cyberworld, and I feel you enjoy 
the status. I, fir one, wouldn't want to volunteer. Now that I am retired, I do 
volunteer work. Goanet is not my cup of tear, or glass of feni. I have happy in 
my role as an "active" poster.
Eugene

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:23 AM, Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Fred—
> Avoid being defensive, or whatever you good English speakers and writers
> say.
> Just take what he said for what it is. Simply say: Yes we have had some
> issues and we try to do our best.
> That surely is the truth! Come on Dude?! No one is being malicious or
> belligerent. At least I am not seeing it that way.
>
> There are a lot of things many Goanetters are appreciate of, and they show
> it by the way they contribute: share, whether by analysis, original
> articles, opinions, and like me tiny observations.
> At least the few among the 10,000 plus. The little we say is a way of
> appreciation, even the carping.
>
> Over the years, some of you have become the major ball players. Major as in
> having managed to keep your independence.
> Surely your Labor of Love has brought in some dividends too of various
> natures. Lets us just say unique connections.
> Now that does not mean erasure of your efforts, not at all. But an
> awareness that you stay aware of the good that you do.
> I am only referring to the good. And good things happen. That is the
> universe speaking for those who are Catholics by virtue of baptism, and
> other preferred sacraments!
> So be happy. At least Eugene is alive and kicking. Jai Bhim, or insert
> saint of choice. Goanet did not simply happen. As a departed friend told me
> once: V you are the recipient of energy on the part of many people.
> LIKEWISE Goanet, and of course one means you, Marlon et al, and the
> volunteers. Zoi to that.
>
> Now some extrapolation, and I will use this post to elaborate something
> that has been on my mind!
> My being ignored on a few fronts (not to mean by you) has not stopped good
> coming towards me, through other conduits. Life goes on, the river changes
> course.
> Recently, I emailed three Goans / those of Goan origin, in the Literary
> world showcasing my interest in doing specific work. Kaim nhu. Perhaps ll
> in Spam? Zait goddek. There have been many such instances. Its not about
> work per se, but about that conduct — about the famed alegria / joy /
> anand, which we profess ourselves to possess. A simple matter of saying:
> Hey V, received your stuff. We have no use for your work, or, will keep you
> in mind.
>
> Perhaps it has to do with my often blunt, and on occasional colorful (foul)
> language. Who died and made people sainted?! I know its hard for people to
> celebrate. What is worse is those who want something but do not care to ask
> logically. Then there are those who do not know me from shit, and will want
> something specific. Thankfully none have come in the near recent past , but
> the door can still be walked through with some respect. I put all this out
> to say is this about being Goan, or is it what the mind conjured up when
> hearing the word …ghanti.” How does one tell people to pull their heads out
> from where the sun don’t shine?
>
> So celebrate yourself. You are regarded well. Ot you boinking us pordeshi
> for matxo uchambov.

Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Venantius J Pinto]

Fred—

Good point about Fr Nascimento. But, you cannot beat yourself; although you
can see and must it as one (there would be more) missed opportunity, if and
even if a small market had been nurtured / has been created. Among every
people and place, certain given elements afford possibility. Still, any one
person can only do so much given existential caveats. Hence there are
institutions, or something that has the weight. Small groups, or a team of
two for instance.

Moving on:
My specific thrust was what I saw as a lack of interest in process.
Baseline business transaction. No matter which way one looks at it, its not
tens  of illustrators of Goan origin contacting anybody, and sharing work.
The ideas was to bring ones visual skills to bear on things Goan, employing
ones analytical chops. Perhaps it is all a mere attempt at validating
myself. That must be it! Zait ghoddek! But apparently, we Goans have a
propensity of operating on a few too many layers in one existence; and it
works! And we can have our Christian graces too. Heh Bhagwaan, or Vo Deua /
Deva. Now, now I am pointing! Of course, this can be conveniently
misconstrued — so the caveat is a mild, within reason. Under what
circumstances is a project worth it, or can be accepted?

Perhaps believing in the form of cultural chops that Goans possess; is a
figment of my imagination. Yet, indeed!, I have known gracious people. On
the other hand, we have our own version of the grape vine passing on
scurrilous morsels of information, as long as it is outside the norm.
Again, if one has observed — Goans conveniently hold onto different values,
but soak in the same idea of some homogenous Goaness / Goanity. Something
that, I care to think very little of. And, which I am sure one sees more of
it at Goan conferences and gatherings.

Time, age, consistent training of most kinds toughens or us. I am not water
sodden errant branch that made it to some shore; and a, not even talking
about painting. One knows where one stands, and truly times change. In that
change one expects changes all around. Why not? This is also NOT about art
and recognition. Imagine if someone asks a question to validate their
belief whether someone still feels beaten down — based on having met the
other, in the distant past under poor circumstances. That would be a naked
attempt at manipulating sense and sensibility! Ergo, all one may do is to
avoid pitfalls, but seek possibility. Surely, a condition! A Christian
condition?


Thank you,
—Venantius

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Venantius,
>
> Your right. Thanks for your inputs.
>
> I agree that's there's a lot of underappreciation going on there. For one,
> knowing your own work and having seen it (at late Fr Nascimento's book
> release at the Clergy Home, Porvorim) as a community we have never been
> able to showcase it  in Goa or in the diaspora.
>
> It is troubling that our otherwise talented community spends more time to
> tear each other down rather than build one another...
>
> FN
>

Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Eugene Correia]

Fred,
If you consider mu post saying thecsamecas kther posts have said, its not 
cribbing but pointing out the fact. I, as others, do appreciate your time. But 
listen to genuine complaints. Nobody is holding you by tge neck. 
One understands you are the king of the Goan cyberworld, and I feel you enjoy 
the status. I, fir one, wouldn't want to volunteer. Now that I am retired, I do 
volunteer work. Goanet is not my cup of tear, or glass of feni. I have happy in 
my role as an "active" poster.
Eugene

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:23 AM, Venantius J Pinto  
> wrote:
> 
> Fred—
> Avoid being defensive, or whatever you good English speakers and writers
> say.
> Just take what he said for what it is. Simply say: Yes we have had some
> issues and we try to do our best.
> That surely is the truth! Come on Dude?! No one is being malicious or
> belligerent. At least I am not seeing it that way.
> 
> There are a lot of things many Goanetters are appreciate of, and they show
> it by the way they contribute: share, whether by analysis, original
> articles, opinions, and like me tiny observations.
> At least the few among the 10,000 plus. The little we say is a way of
> appreciation, even the carping.
> 
> Over the years, some of you have become the major ball players. Major as in
> having managed to keep your independence.
> Surely your Labor of Love has brought in some dividends too of various
> natures. Lets us just say unique connections.
> Now that does not mean erasure of your efforts, not at all. But an
> awareness that you stay aware of the good that you do.
> I am only referring to the good. And good things happen. That is the
> universe speaking for those who are Catholics by virtue of baptism, and
> other preferred sacraments!
> So be happy. At least Eugene is alive and kicking. Jai Bhim, or insert
> saint of choice. Goanet did not simply happen. As a departed friend told me
> once: V you are the recipient of energy on the part of many people.
> LIKEWISE Goanet, and of course one means you, Marlon et al, and the
> volunteers. Zoi to that.
> 
> Now some extrapolation, and I will use this post to elaborate something
> that has been on my mind!
> My being ignored on a few fronts (not to mean by you) has not stopped good
> coming towards me, through other conduits. Life goes on, the river changes
> course.
> Recently, I emailed three Goans / those of Goan origin, in the Literary
> world showcasing my interest in doing specific work. Kaim nhu. Perhaps ll
> in Spam? Zait goddek. There have been many such instances. Its not about
> work per se, but about that conduct — about the famed alegria / joy /
> anand, which we profess ourselves to possess. A simple matter of saying:
> Hey V, received your stuff. We have no use for your work, or, will keep you
> in mind.
> 
> Perhaps it has to do with my often blunt, and on occasional colorful (foul)
> language. Who died and made people sainted?! I know its hard for people to
> celebrate. What is worse is those who want something but do not care to ask
> logically. Then there are those who do not know me from shit, and will want
> something specific. Thankfully none have come in the near recent past , but
> the door can still be walked through with some respect. I put all this out
> to say is this about being Goan, or is it what the mind conjured up when
> hearing the word …ghanti.” How does one tell people to pull their heads out
> from where the sun don’t shine?
> 
> So celebrate yourself. You are regarded well. Ot you boinking us pordeshi
> for matxo uchambov. :)
> Aiz asa faleam nhuim.
> 
> Best,
> —Venantius J Pinto
> 
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Frederick Noronha <
> fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eugene, Thanks but no thanks for cribbing over this. If your email
>> account does not bounce mail (and Gmail seldom does, unless overfilled),
>> then you should have no reason to be automatically switched to 'no mail' on
>> the Goanet list.
>> 
>> We at Goanet do appreciate that occasionally email accounts do bounce mail,
>> despite everyone's best efforts. And the Goanet Volunteers Team does try to
>> restore things, whenever possible.
>> 
>> But then, this is all volunteer work
>> 
>> Instead of simply carping, would you like to light a candle, and help
>> improve the situation? Would you like to volunteer to help build this
>> 23-year-old team effort by posting useful and interesting Goa-links to the
>> group on a regular basis?
>> 
>> And I don't mean just pot-shots and flame-baits against those we have some
>> grudge against.
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> 
>> Frederick
>> 9822122436
>> 
>> * * *
>> From: Eugene Correia 
>> I too get them, and have to resubscribe every now and then. Admin must work
>> to correct this problem.
>> 
>> Eugene
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Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Frederick Noronha]

Venantius,

Your right. Thanks for your inputs.

I agree that's there's a lot of underappreciation going on there. For one,
knowing your own work and having seen it (at late Fr Nascimento's book
release at the Clergy Home, Porvorim) as a community we have never been
able to showcase it  in Goa or in the diaspora.

It is troubling that our otherwise talented community spends more time to
tear each other down rather than build one another...

FN

Re: [Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Venantius J Pinto]

Fred—
Avoid being defensive, or whatever you good English speakers and writers
say.
Just take what he said for what it is. Simply say: Yes we have had some
issues and we try to do our best.
That surely is the truth! Come on Dude?! No one is being malicious or
belligerent. At least I am not seeing it that way.

There are a lot of things many Goanetters are appreciate of, and they show
it by the way they contribute: share, whether by analysis, original
articles, opinions, and like me tiny observations.
At least the few among the 10,000 plus. The little we say is a way of
appreciation, even the carping.

Over the years, some of you have become the major ball players. Major as in
having managed to keep your independence.
Surely your Labor of Love has brought in some dividends too of various
natures. Lets us just say unique connections.
Now that does not mean erasure of your efforts, not at all. But an
awareness that you stay aware of the good that you do.
I am only referring to the good. And good things happen. That is the
universe speaking for those who are Catholics by virtue of baptism, and
other preferred sacraments!
So be happy. At least Eugene is alive and kicking. Jai Bhim, or insert
saint of choice. Goanet did not simply happen. As a departed friend told me
once: V you are the recipient of energy on the part of many people.
LIKEWISE Goanet, and of course one means you, Marlon et al, and the
volunteers. Zoi to that.

Now some extrapolation, and I will use this post to elaborate something
that has been on my mind!
My being ignored on a few fronts (not to mean by you) has not stopped good
coming towards me, through other conduits. Life goes on, the river changes
course.
Recently, I emailed three Goans / those of Goan origin, in the Literary
world showcasing my interest in doing specific work. Kaim nhu. Perhaps ll
in Spam? Zait goddek. There have been many such instances. Its not about
work per se, but about that conduct — about the famed alegria / joy /
anand, which we profess ourselves to possess. A simple matter of saying:
Hey V, received your stuff. We have no use for your work, or, will keep you
in mind.

Perhaps it has to do with my often blunt, and on occasional colorful (foul)
language. Who died and made people sainted?! I know its hard for people to
celebrate. What is worse is those who want something but do not care to ask
logically. Then there are those who do not know me from shit, and will want
something specific. Thankfully none have come in the near recent past , but
the door can still be walked through with some respect. I put all this out
to say is this about being Goan, or is it what the mind conjured up when
hearing the word …ghanti.” How does one tell people to pull their heads out
from where the sun don’t shine?

So celebrate yourself. You are regarded well. Ot you boinking us pordeshi
for matxo uchambov. :)
Aiz asa faleam nhuim.

Best,
—Venantius J Pinto

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eugene, Thanks but no thanks for cribbing over this. If your email
> account does not bounce mail (and Gmail seldom does, unless overfilled),
> then you should have no reason to be automatically switched to 'no mail' on
> the Goanet list.
>
> We at Goanet do appreciate that occasionally email accounts do bounce mail,
> despite everyone's best efforts. And the Goanet Volunteers Team does try to
> restore things, whenever possible.
>
> But then, this is all volunteer work
>
> Instead of simply carping, would you like to light a candle, and help
> improve the situation? Would you like to volunteer to help build this
> 23-year-old team effort by posting useful and interesting Goa-links to the
> group on a regular basis?
>
> And I don't mean just pot-shots and flame-baits against those we have some
> grudge against.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Frederick
> 9822122436
>
> * * *
> From: Eugene Correia 
> I too get them, and have to resubscribe every now and then. Admin must work
> to correct this problem.
>
> Eugene
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[Goanet] Resubscribing, Eugene's comments

[Frederick Noronha]

Hi Eugene, Thanks but no thanks for cribbing over this. If your email
account does not bounce mail (and Gmail seldom does, unless overfilled),
then you should have no reason to be automatically switched to 'no mail' on
the Goanet list.

We at Goanet do appreciate that occasionally email accounts do bounce mail,
despite everyone's best efforts. And the Goanet Volunteers Team does try to
restore things, whenever possible.

But then, this is all volunteer work

Instead of simply carping, would you like to light a candle, and help
improve the situation? Would you like to volunteer to help build this
23-year-old team effort by posting useful and interesting Goa-links to the
group on a regular basis?

And I don't mean just pot-shots and flame-baits against those we have some
grudge against.

Thanks and regards,

Frederick
9822122436

* * *
From: Eugene Correia 
I too get them, and have to resubscribe every now and then. Admin must work
to correct this problem.

Eugene
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