Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
I've seen Scotchguard in the Food Stores in NJ. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Sablerose wrote: Susan Data-Samtak and Donna wrote: ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Is it still made? A fellow costumer thought it wasn't. Tayla ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Is it still made? A fellow costumer thought it wasn't. Tayla Yes, ScotchGuard is still being made. It was taken off the market a few years back and reformulated (that was the rumor, anyway) but it is back now. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] thanks for your replyes of my embroideries and prices
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 3:11 pm, Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: I cant wear the embroidered old suit anymore. The embroidery is compleately worned out at the innersides of the cuffs. Its the gold bullion threads, that ruined the silk embroidery threads.. It seems a shame that the embroidery on your old suit is worn out. On the other hand, what a wonderful excuse for you to create new, even more wonderful embroidery! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Why shoulders? --Sue, more apt to get the upper front of her dirty than anything - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool? Susan Data-Samtak wrote: ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:18c stays
Hey Kristin, First, take a deep breath, Then decide what direction you want, or even think you might want to go in. This will help you make your boning and pattern decisions. Just for the pleasure of doing it? Only wearing it once a year, indoors in air conditioning? Don't need much support? Plastic boning is probably OK, Wearing it all day, all weekend at a reenactment? Working and bending in it doing laundry at a museum site? A little more bosom to support? All your friends are hyper authenic? Different choices. I saw you are in PA. Where? Some of the 18 cent reenactor folks run workshops in that NY/PA/MD area. Being in NC, I'm too far away to take advantage of them, but they might fit your ticket. Your e-friend MIa in Far off Charlotte, NC - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Stain resistant wool
It seems to me I read years ago that wool was naturally stain resistant, perhaps due to the lanolin in it. Anyway, that was one of the reasons it was touted as an ideal travel fabric, it doesn't wrinkle as you wear it, is easy to dewrinkle in a steamy shower, it doesn't hold onto stains, it is comfortable over a large range of temperatures due to it's breathability, and since it absorbs moisture and still keeps you warm, it is even good in cold damp weather and not sweaty in hot weather... well you get the picture. anyway, I believe the stain resistance is a quality of the wool. Scotchgard would just impair it's other good qualities. Kitty On Feb 1, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sablerose wrote: I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here. I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter white wool as the base fabric. This is a cloak I plan to wear and use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new. But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? I don't want to harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention would be nice. Any ideas? Tayla ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Protecting wool?
At 11:59 AM 2/2/2006, you wrote: Why shoulders? --Sue, more apt to get the upper front of her dirty than anything - Original Message - ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Dawn == Also top of the hood. These are the areas that will get the wettest if you are standing out in the rain :). Catherine Well, wool actually is warmer and sheds water better after it gets a bit damp because the fibers expand and form a better insulator. All I do with my wool outfits is let them dry and then brush them off; only if something is really dirty do I bother to wash it. Full cleaning is not needed every time a wool outfit is worn if you wear the proper undergarments. The undergarments, on the other hand, should be washed after each wearing (that's why I have two shifts, one for each day of a weekend). Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Sablerose wrote: But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? The other thing I would suggest is to cut the length somewhere below the knee, but well above the ankle, perhaps 10 up, somewhere around mid calf or higher. This will keep your white wool off the ground and out of reach of most mud and grass, splashed water, and such. Much easier to keep clean if it's not in the muck in the first place. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Luckily, I'm putting a border of abut 12 inches of black(actually a black and gray plaid) arould the front opening and base of the cloak which will be a little more stain resistant. But I do plan to cut it above the ankles. For the first time I'm going to photo document the whole process, so I'll let you all know when I get pictures and such up on a website. I haven't 100% decided yet, but I may hand sew the thing, given the weight of the wool involved. While I'm at it, does anyone have recommendations for what to line with? I'm trying to decide between linen and light weight polar fleece. This is blanket weight wool, so it will be plenty warm on its own. Has anyone lined a winter cloak in linen? Fur's not really an option for me, so what other historically accurate options do I have? Tayla - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool? Sablerose wrote: But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? The other thing I would suggest is to cut the length somewhere below the knee, but well above the ankle, perhaps 10 up, somewhere around mid calf or higher. This will keep your white wool off the ground and out of reach of most mud and grass, splashed water, and such. Much easier to keep clean if it's not in the muck in the first place. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
At 01:35 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote: Luckily, I'm putting a border of abut 12 inches of black(actually a black and gray plaid) arould the front opening and base of the cloak which will be a little more stain resistant. But I do plan to cut it above the ankles. For the first time I'm going to photo document the whole process, so I'll let you all know when I get pictures and such up on a website. I haven't 100% decided yet, but I may hand sew the thing, given the weight of the wool involved. While I'm at it, does anyone have recommendations for what to line with? I'm trying to decide between linen and light weight polar fleece. This is blanket weight wool, so it will be plenty warm on its own. Has anyone lined a winter cloak in linen? Fur's not really an option for me, so what other historically accurate options do I have? Tayla [snip] The period solution would probably be silk. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Re the polar fleece, it does not breathe and can trap body moisture on the inside. I am always too warm when I wear a very nice jacket I made. (And of course, it isn't exactly period... Kathleen - Original Message - From: Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool? At 01:35 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote: Luckily, I'm putting a border of abut 12 inches of black(actually a black and gray plaid) arould the front opening and base of the cloak which will be a little more stain resistant. But I do plan to cut it above the ankles. For the first time I'm going to photo document the whole process, so I'll let you all know when I get pictures and such up on a website. I haven't 100% decided yet, but I may hand sew the thing, given the weight of the wool involved. While I'm at it, does anyone have recommendations for what to line with? I'm trying to decide between linen and light weight polar fleece. This is blanket weight wool, so it will be plenty warm on its own. Has anyone lined a winter cloak in linen? Fur's not really an option for me, so what other historically accurate options do I have? Tayla [snip] The period solution would probably be silk. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: fashion dolls again.
Hi, Oh yes i am such a fool not thinking about this. There are lots of these dolls for sale. I even found a seller in England that was selling a Mat doll and a female doll i could have used and i could have saved the tax fee for importing to Europe Well two late :-( Bjarne - Original Message - From: Sabine Pothmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: fashion dolls again. Hi all, I might be a bit late on this subject, but... Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:07:54... I remember we disgussed this topic way back. I finally found a danish importer of the famous Tonner Dolls. I ordered 3 of these. Bjarne, it might be less expensive to buy those dolls directly in the US, on Ebay.com, instead of buying them from an importer. On Ebay.com you'll find several dealers who also sell nude dolls, which are just perfect for dressing them ;-) I've bought several of them this way when I started making doll costumes. See some of my doll costumes - mostly Victorian and Elizabethan - here: http://www.naergilien.info/dollclothing.htm I mostly make Victorian and Elizabethan clothing - not only dolls - but currently I'm about to make a Rococo gown for Tyler, with stays and panier, of course :-) Emme, American Beauty and Matt O'Neill. Emme is just perfect, I also have her! She looks like Glenn Close, and with a reroot, she can act as a perfect Queen Elizabeth I. :-) I have Tyler, Emme, Kitty Collier (18''), Gene, Jadde Lee and Brenda Starr; they're beautiful to work with. Best wishes, Naergi ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Re the polar fleece, it does not breathe and can trap body moisture on the inside. I am always too warm when I wear a very nice jacket I made. (And of course, it isn't exactly period... And fleece pills with wear. Even if you think it looks nice now, it won't after a while. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Wool
I'm in the planning stages of what will be my first ever wool garment. Is there anything I need to know about sewing with it? Do any of you guys pre-wash wool? It's a gabardine fabric, which I know isn't terribly period, but it's what I could afford, and I'm making my late-17th-century pirate coat out of it. Thanks for any advice you can give me. Being from South Texas originally, wool was excluded from my sewing education. :) Tea Rose ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
I lined my winter cloak with heavy 100% cotton flannel, sold as flannel chamois. It's warm and soft, shows no signs of pilling and came in various solid colors. Of course, I don't know who sells it now that JoAnne's has discontinued it. Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wool
I always prewash my wool, especially if it's going to be lined, a jacket usually shrinks in length by an inch or two with the type of wool I use. Not sure what would happen with gaberdine, but it doesn't take long to pre-wash anyway. It also washes out any chemicals used in the processing, so I don't get rashes when working with it. Glenda. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [h-cost] Wool I'm in the planning stages of what will be my first ever wool garment. Is there anything I need to know about sewing with it? Do any of you guys pre-wash wool? It's a gabardine fabric, which I know isn't terribly period, but it's what I could afford, and I'm making my late-17th-century pirate coat out of it. Thanks for any advice you can give me. Being from South Texas originally, wool was excluded from my sewing education. :) Tea Rose ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
I would recommend against the (polar)fleece- it is mostly Polyester, and rubbing against the wool every step you take could generate some short, sharp shocks. Lamb fleece OTOH would be great, but quite heavy! My .02 lira, Betsy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sablerose Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:35 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool? Luckily, I'm putting a border of abut 12 inches of black(actually a black and gray plaid) arould the front opening and base of the cloak which will be a little more stain resistant. But I do plan to cut it above the ankles. For the first time I'm going to photo document the whole process, so I'll let you all know when I get pictures and such up on a website. I haven't 100% decided yet, but I may hand sew the thing, given the weight of the wool involved. While I'm at it, does anyone have recommendations for what to line with? I'm trying to decide between linen and light weight polar fleece. This is blanket weight wool, so it will be plenty warm on its own. Has anyone lined a winter cloak in linen? Fur's not really an option for me, so what other historically accurate options do I have? Tayla - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool? Sablerose wrote: But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? The other thing I would suggest is to cut the length somewhere below the knee, but well above the ankle, perhaps 10 up, somewhere around mid calf or higher. This will keep your white wool off the ground and out of reach of most mud and grass, splashed water, and such. Much easier to keep clean if it's not in the muck in the first place. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wool
I'm in the planning stages of what will be my first ever wool garment. Is there anything I need to know about sewing with it? Do any of you guys pre-wash wool? I always pre-wash my wool. As someone said, it washes out any chemicals used in processing and it leaves you the *option* of washing it again. Honestly, I have never had to wash an entire garment that I have made in my 15-odd years of sewing historical costumes. Spot cleaning works fine or putting my hem in the bathtub ;~ It's a gabardine fabric, which I know isn't terribly period, but it's what I could afford, and I'm making my late-17th-century pirate coat out of it. Also, washing a wool gabardine will shrink it and thicken it up a bit so it will be less modern-looking. Every little bit helps! Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net Everything for the Costumer Become the change you want to see in the world. --Ghandi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wool
Are you going to throw the jacket in the wash once it's made? That's usually my idea when working with any fabric. If I want to wash the garment in a machine once it's made, I wash the material in Hot water and dry in the dryer (unless I'm fulling cloth for an 18thC coat, then I full properly, not in the dryer). Wool is wonderful to work with, take a small piece of it and play with it before you sew your garment. It will streatch and shrink under steam and heat, it will go whereever you tell it to. Play with it first, then you'll get the feel of it! Kelly - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: [h-cost] Wool I'm in the planning stages of what will be my first ever wool garment. Is there anything I need to know about sewing with it? Do any of you guys pre-wash wool? It's a gabardine fabric, which I know isn't terribly period, but it's what I could afford, and I'm making my late-17th-century pirate coat out of it. Thanks for any advice you can give me. Being from South Texas originally, wool was excluded from my sewing education. :) Tea Rose ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Stain resistant wool
It seems to me I read years ago that wool was naturally stain resistant, perhaps due to the lanolin in it. Yes, and also waterproof for the same reason. The wool we get now, though, has been treated chemically, so it's not quite as good. Still worth it though. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sees
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ObCostume: So, for those familiar with See's -- what era is the inspiration/origin of their uniforms? (See http://www.sees.com/about.cfm for an example.) It strikes me as somehow earlier rather than later 20th century, but the 20th century isn't exactly my area of costuming interest... I'd say early tacky or late dowdy ;-) Seriously though, I've seen some hideous work uniforms but I think Sees is a real leader here. Fortunately their candy is wonderful and they're not selling their uniforms...those poor ladies... Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sees
I've seen worse, Darrell Lea in Australia used to have their shop assistants in a large shapeless shift with a huge floppy bow about the same place as this uniform. Shocking! Unfortunately, I can't find a photo of these on the net. Anyone else in OZ have any pics? Glenda. , but the 20th century isn't exactly my area of costuming interest... I'd say early tacky or late dowdy ;-) Seriously though, I've seen some hideous work uniforms but I think Sees is a real leader here. Fortunately their candy is wonderful and they're not selling their uniforms...those poor ladies... Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
