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Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Soon it will be wearing a red shirt embroidered with black feathers. Like death is wearing in this you tube video from the Musical Elisabeth 4:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS7ca1lIrVofeature=related ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dating a couple garments
I can't help you with the dating but I had a good laugh reading your title. Was thinking of Valentine... Greetings, Deredere Sheridan Alder wrote: Late 70's? I have one in high school. Sheridan Alder --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net wrote: From: Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net Subject: [h-cost] Dating a couple garments To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Received: Friday, February 12, 2010, 3:47 PM Does anyone recall when dolman sleeved swing jackets were popular? Was it the 80s or the 90s? I'm trying to sell some old clothes and they have to be at least 20 years old to put them up on etsy in the vintage section. I can send photos if I can figure out how to do so on this list.  Sylvia Rognstad Costume/clothing design construction Alterations home dec http://www.ezzyworld.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Quiet list
I am working on my new winter coat. Loosely based on Truly Victorian *TV462 **1883 Tail Bodice* Made from patterned velvet, black velvet and fake black fur.* * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dream costume project
It is empire with puff sleeves with little flowers on the sleeves and a pleated Berta? I found a picture of the tops of two other dresses in the same showcase. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/Jurk3.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dream costume project
I have been to the Hermitage in Amsterdam http://www.hermitage.nl/en/ They have an exibition At the Russian Court I saw some very elaborate embroidered court dresses. But I fell in love with a ball dress from 1810-1820 I asked if I could take pictures since it isn't in the catalog and got sort of permission :-) . But got only a picture of the bottom part of the dress with a mobile phone. I have searched over the web to find a picture but I think they don't rate it as one of their top collection dresses so no pictures. Found some pictures made of the exhibition but always from the wrong angle of the showcase and missing the dress. Here is a picture of the bottom of the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/Jurkonderkant.jpg It is made of pink satin and an over layer of pink silk tulle(?) For people who might go to the exhibition it is dress 12 in the ball room http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/Jurk.jpg I would love a picture of the bodice. The bodice looks a bit like this one http://z.about.com/d/goamsterdam/1/0/x/9/-/-/hermitage-russian-court-dress.jpg I would love to recreate it. When I can afford it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
Mine is wearing my new corset http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/C1.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
Thank you. It is from Corsets and Crinolines page 82 The salmon pink pieces are elastic twgilb...@roadrunner.com wrote: Mine is wearing my new corset http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/C1.jpg Very pretty! Marjorie -- Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net Royal Ascot Finalist 2009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Rococo bunny
Thanks for the complements. And Bjarne is always an inspiration. Yes I do sell them. This weekend I go to a fantasy fair and probably sell out again :-) . http://www.mystictimes.nl/MBunny/MysticBunny.html Greetings, Deredere http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/Kabunny.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Rococo bunny
I just had to post this. I make bunny backpacks and I have been asked to make a rococo male bunny. The embroidery is done by machine. The undershirt is silk and the rest is of synthetic taft. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Troep/Kabunny.jpg Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Patterns date question
Thank you all very much for the replies. ww1 isn't my period. But the dress felt weird. Sometimes I can tell that a pattern isn't quite right but I don't always know what it is. But now I get a better idea of the period. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Patterns date question
I was wondering from when the costume is on the left of the picture. I have been asked to make that costume for reenactment in the Netherlands during the 1sth world war. And I wonder if that dress is the right period. http://www.naaipatronen.nl/afb/swb/B4954.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Boning question
I have made the corset and it gives a little more room like a few mm but not that you actually see it while wearing. But I think it is a little more comfortable than having the reeds running up to the top. And the top is less stiff. Margo Anderson wrote: I'm pondering 16th century flat fronted bodies and kirtles, and the pair of bodies of Dorothea von Neuburg on page 113 of Patterns of fashion. The boning comes up only to the bottom of the breast curves. The Tudor Tailor references this boning pattern and says it's important to maintain the proper curved lines. I've made a similar garment for myself and got a perfectly flat front, with no difference from the same garment made with the boning running over the breasts from the upper edge to the (slight raised) waistline. Obviously bodies vary, so I'm asking if anyone has found a noticeable difference when using this boning pattern, and what it was? Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] All Hallows
I am working on a vampire dress. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/dress/Jurk.jpg Ate pumpkin soup and carved a pumpkin and I am listening to the music of corpse bride. The only one in costume is my little bunny backpack in her little witch dress with broomstick and pumpkin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Well mine are not wearing much. But there is a lot on my worktable. A blue and brown high waisted skirt I need to finish. 6 Bunny winter coats. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/dress/Jasjes.jpg A 19th century corset that needs to be finished before Friday http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/dress/Korset.jpg And a Ball Jointed Doll 19th century dress. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/dress/kerstboom.jpg Still needs sleeves, a berthe and closure. Somewhere there is a Gothic Bunny dress in pieces Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Questions on Louis XV (1760s) Costuming
Ahhh! Lovely! What a great inspiration. I ordered some beautiful pink satin 18th century shoes for my doll and she definitely needs a dress to go with them. Thanks! Deredere Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: Dear Sharon Henderson. Thanks for your post. This is not anything about undergarments, but i am sure these wil be a big inspiration to you, they are to me! Louis Carrogis made these water colours pictures of the french nobility: http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSearchT.aspx?Round=2Total=500FP=17986705E=2K1KTS5GS7Q6SID=2K1KTS5GS7Q6New=TPage=1 Mind you there are more than 500 prints!!! Bjarne - Original Message - From: Sharon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: [h-cost] Questions on Louis XV (1760s) Costuming Good morning all, Can anyone point me toward some historically-accurate web links or resources for clothing from the 1760s in France, during the reign of Louis XV? Some friends are planning a large-group cosplay gathering for the anime version of Le Chevalier D'Eon, and while the costumes are for the most part only glancingly period, I'm going to be the obsessive one. *grins* I want to especially get the undergarments and layers correct, and fight as much of a good fight with the two gowns I've chosen in order to get them as close as possible to accurate--while still giving the look from the anime production. Right now I'm having little luck finding good corset and underpinnings links and/or books, and finding proper fabrics that would give the richness of a court costume to what are amazingly plain outfits in the anime has proven a challenge. If anyone's interested in knowing, I'm doing Mme. de Pompadour and making the outfit for a friend portraying King Louis. :) I would welcome any advice, assistance, links, etc. Bjarne, I've already sent the link for your site to the group--and their reactions to the gorgeousness of your work was everything anyone could hope for. *grins* They are in awe and wonder of you, as am I... :) Cheers, Sharon/Jasta ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895
I wish I knew that just a few day's earlier... I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague. It almost felt like a theme park. But it is very beautiful. And way too much to see for just two days. German is not a problem for me. I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns. I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me. Deredere Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and non-commercial use. Zuzana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Corset pattern 1895
Hi, I was looking at several corset patterns. And I was wondering if anyone could recommend me a pattern for a corset for 1895 The best I could find is Past Patterns 106B/P Edwardian corset. http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=106B.htmlcart_id=5688090_4173 But is a little late Or the corset on page 82 from corsets and crinolines. That one is from mid 1890's and looks comfortable with the elastic on the hips. Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Les Adieaux en miniature
Don't let my girl see it :-) She would probably want one too. It is very pretty. Have fun on your vacation. Deredere Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: Sorry this is off topic, but it is historical costume. I finnished the doll dress and i promised you to see it finished: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/cl31.htm More here: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/the_queens_lady_in_waiting.htm I am going on a small holliday to Berlin the day after tomorrow, it wil be nice, but i cant waite to get home again and start another one. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corset pattern 1895
I would love to see pictures of people wearing the corset from past patterns 213. There is one in the great pattern review but I don't think it fits very well. I am tall have a very slender waist en round hips. Deredere Katy Bishop wrote: I also really like the Past Patterns 213 for 1880s and 1890s Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Book question 1895
I am studying the Danckaerts system to draw patterns and my teacher asked me to make a dress from the time she invented the method. She and her husband created the system in 1895. I never made anything from this period before. I found a book The keystone jacket and dress cutter an 1895 guide to womans tailoring. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S7Q2XQNNL.jpg Has anyone experience with this book? Are there any other books that are interesting for this time? I have the cut of women's clothes victorian and edwardian fashions from la mode illustree I don't think those balloon shaped sleeves will look very well on me :-\ . I have brought shoulders from myself... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] need advice on making a standing collar
Hi, I hope this will help http://www.farthingales.on.ca/elizabethan_wired_ruff.html Deredere Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: Hello, all - I'm making a fantasy QE1 costume, but trying to make the silhouette, at least, relatively accurate to period (I started with Margo's pattern...). (It will also have wings, but that's part of the fantasy g). I want a large standing collar rather than a ruff, similar to the picture here: http://www.hbo.com/films/elizabeth/img/castandcrew/506x316_helen.jpg Or: http://tinyurl.com/2yduje The problem is, I have no idea how to make one, or how it attaches to the costume. Can someone please point me to a book or website that might give me some clues? I need to finish this by tax day (Apr. 15 for non-U.S. members) and the rest of the dress is giving me fits also. Many thanks in advance. Sandy Those Who Fail To Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C.Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: Ball jointed dolls was:[h-cost] danish renaissance costumes.
Welcome to the club! Do you know that they can be awfully addictive? A friend of mine who also has ball jointed dolls send me a website from that friend of yours. I told her that I knew you from this list. I am still working on a 19th century dress and tomorrow I will order her wig with ringlets. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Dolls/BJD.html My darkelf is from dollzone en my girl is from Luts http://www.eluts.com/ She is a senior delf and she is slightly more mature than other models. She poses beautifully. They are wonderfull to take pictures from. Oh i forgot Losboll it is a flooting head not sure if it is he or she. I experiment on it to get better on face painting. http://85.17.225.57/20251-20255/202519501-202519600/202519562_6_Guec.jpeg Her you can probably vieuw some more pictures of them. http://deredere.hyves.nl/ I love them With the ones I have I can change wigs, eyes and eyelashes even the face paint if I really want. Yea totally addictive :-) Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: Dear all, I feel terrible because i have not answering all your wonderfull suggestions and comments on my coming projekt. I am burried in work right now, and i have saved all your replyes for me in a folder, so that i dont miss anything. I wil probably have some more questions later when i start the projekt. One thing is sure though, i reall have to travel over to the manor to have a close look at the portraits, to se if i can find more details, and ill take my camera with me. Its frustrating when you have something on order and working with it, then have another important order and you dont have the time to make research. I must do this later. If anybody wonder what i am doing right now, i can tell you that i meet a guy in Canada on Livejournal, who collects big asian ball jointed dolls 60 cm high. He asked me to make Marie Antoinette clothes for his dolls, and as i didnt have any dolls to meassure from, he suggested we made a swap, he sended me a doll, and i am going to make a dress for one of his dolls. I started it, and its quite fun. Really it takes much longer time than i figured it would, but its also because i am so critical in details. I am going to make the dress from Moreau Le Jeunnes print Les Adieaux. So far i have made a fully boned corset and a pannier for it, right now i am embroidering the pannels for the dress. See more here: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/the_queens_lady_in_waiting.htm Also i finnished Guy d'Ancours waistcoat: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/guy_d.htm And i am also making a 1740 corset laced center front. Two buisy! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Was (A bit OT doll bustle dress question for bonnet) now Vampire
Hi, Yes I am a member of the forum. Today I got the message from Luts that my Blanchet (Girl BJD) is about to fly to me :-) . I am designing a vampire dress for myself. And made the robe for Quinn and I want to make the dress for my girl. So I can see the difficulties before I make it for myself. Pictures of Quinns robe are here http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Dolls/BJD.html Pictures of my dress design are here http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Fantasy/Vampire/Vampire.html My husband will go as a Lycan. He will wear black leather pants. A T-Shirt with on the front an enhanced six-pack from latex. A 19th century coat but in black Gothic style fabric and dark red lining. And a prosthetic werewolf snout. Deredere Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: Hi Deredere! Welcome to the wonderful world of BJDs!!! Costuming for them is exactly why I got into them to. ;-) I don't know much about that time period at all but I would think a hat, either a straw boater or a small hat perched on top of her head. However, I freely admit that is a guess. Have you found Den of Angels yet? http://www.denofangels.com If not, you will probably find it very helpful and enjoy it a lot. I really envy you being able to get the Dark Elf Quinn! Cheers, Danielle At 06:21 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote: Hi, It as been so long since I was able to make a historic costume. Not much time anymore so now I make them in smaller size :-) . It is for a doll that hopefully will arrive soon from Korea. I am making her a beautiful sheer cotton bustle dress. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Dolls/BJD.html I was wondering what would be worn wit it? A nice bonnet or a hat? Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The costume I wore for my holiday...
Well, Here you can see our little thee party in Dickens style at the Anton Pieck Parade in the Netherlands. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn867-ZtgUQ And an other impression of the fair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75t1yxneSZE And pictures of last year http://www.antonpieckparade.nl/fotoos2006-6.html Click on volgende pagina to see more pictures Deredere Cin wrote: After all those h-costume msgs describing holiday wear for parties, Dicken's Fair, 12th night, New Years eve and the like, I suspect we'd all love to see pictures of each other in our finery. I know I would. The favor of a website, flickr page or smug mug link, is requested. Anyone brave enough to share? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] A bit OT doll bustle dress question for bonnet
Hi, It as been so long since I was able to make a historic costume. Not much time anymore so now I make them in smaller size :-) . It is for a doll that hopefully will arrive soon from Korea. I am making her a beautiful sheer cotton bustle dress. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Dolls/BJD.html I was wondering what would be worn wit it? A nice bonnet or a hat? Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
I bought myself something that will help me learn more about making historical costumes. That will able me to try out a lot with less cost. Ever since I made my 16th century wedding dress I had the feeling that I couldn't improve myself on making better and more beautiful costumes because it was getting too expensive. But I have found a solution. I bought myself two Ball Jointed Dolls from Korea. One 70cm male doll and one 68cm female. She will come somewhere in January but I am already making a bustle gown for her. A friend of mine has the same size doll. And yesterday we fitted the skirt and bustle and made a basic pattern for the bodice. I found out by making a dress shirt and pants for my boy Quinn that it is the perfect size for me. Not to small and not to big. Now I can get more experience and try a dress or a male costume in nice fabrics before I make it in full size. And we bought some beautiful patten books on French Fashion Doll making. And I hope my husband will like making dolls so that he will be a doll maker on the Anton Pieck Parade next year. That would be fun making 19th century dolls while wearing 19th century clothing. I think the public will love it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My dressmaker's dummy is halloween stuff
My dummy is wearing an absolutely ugly synthetic cheap black Halloween cape for my husband. We bought it from Smiffys along with some other fun Halloween stuff. He is going to be lord Dracula and I will be Corpse Bride. I am having so much fun thinking of how I am going to decorate the house. Planning on hanging plastic in front of the living room door as in some scary movies. Maybe some blood smears on them. In the front garden there will be a cross with some graveyard candles and a morgue sign. One of the kitchen doors will be open but will have red and white tape in front of it and a sign keep out and than a silhouette on the kitchen floor like at a crime seen Green lemonade with floating eyeballs in them I hope so that some of the guest will be in fun costumes. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Increasing bra sizes (long)
I don't have that much trouble finding a fitting bra but Sometimes I just can't find anything that I like. Until I learned to make them myself. It is not that hard. It may take a few tries to get the perfect pattern or to take one apart that fits well to make a pattern... But I love making them! There is just one little problem... You can by packages that have everything you need in them. And in my case quite often even more. So than I think, if I buy some extra fabric I will have enough lace for two sets but than of course I will have some fabric left over... which means I need lace that will go with the fabric, and some strap material that I can buy in meters so I will have strap material for two. Ok you probably realize by know what a dangerous hobby this can be :) Deredere Hope Greenberg wrote: A couple years ago, after losing a substantial amount of weight, I decided I really needed to find a different size bra. While waiting on line for a dressing room at one store (OK, it was Victoria's Secret), an energetic young store employee came up and said have you ever been professionally fitted. I said no, she whipped out a tape measure, did two measurements over my clothes, and told me what size to buy. I then proceeded to try on several bras they had in that size. None fit. So, I assume professionally fitted has several definitions! However, still carrying those body image issues from my younger days, or even more recent but heavier days, I never went anywhere else for a professional fitting that might get, shall we say, more personal. Maybe that's a mistake. But what I did do was read, read, read about how a good bra should fit. Then armed with that information I went to a store (L'Eggs, Bali, Hanes) and started experimenting with different sizes. Took over an hour but was well worth it, and the women in that store didn't mind me being there for that long. Oh, and I ended up with a bra size that was 2 sizes smaller in the band and one to two sizes larger in the cup. So, for those of you who would like to do the same, here are some resources: http://www.herroom.com/bra-fitting-checklist,907,30.html http://www.herroom.com/bra-bands-cups-underwires-panels-straps,902,30.html and links from that page http://www.ehow.com/how_167_find-fit-bra.html Oh, and when you want the ultimate fitting experience, head for Paris. That's what Daisy Garnett of the NYTimes did. Here's her article (may require freee subscription to read) http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E6DE1631F934A2575BC0A9659C8B63sec=spon=pagewanted=1 - Hope Susan Farmer wrote: It is *sooo* worth it to get professionally fitted. I had it done earlier this year and I can't recommend it enough. Not all bras are equal. I must have tried on 6 before finding one that fit and felt ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric stores near Luray Virginia
Hi, Thanx for the information! I send it to her and I can't wait to hear her story's from her vakation there. Greetings, Deredere Penny Ladnier wrote: Deredere, There are lots of nice old Victorian/Edwardian homes in the small towns in VA. I love driving through the small towns and would love to live in one of these towns one day. I haven't been to Luray in years. At that time it wasn't a very large town. Harrisonburg is a mecca of antique stores. I can't recall the name of the highway that goes through Harrisburg but I have never seen so many antique stores as there are on it. This highway was featured on HGTV one year for its large amount antique stores. I don't know if it is apple season by the 25th but if it is, make sure your friend brings you some. We do the orchards closer to Charlottesville in the Blue Ridge. I know next weekend in Richmond starts the German fests and they go on for a month. Another must see at Luray Caverns is to see the natural wedding chapel. I would love to be there when an actual wedding is talking place. Your friend might want to check the VA Tourist Dept. This time of year, so many events are occurring every weekend. My son's family goes to Luray and camps around this time of year. I will ask them about the sites and stores in the area. If your friend goes into the DC metro, G Street fabrics is always a must! Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fabric stores near Luray virginia
Hi, I friend of mine is going on vacation to Luray, virginia from 25 sept untill 16 okt. She was wondering if there are any interesting fabric shops there. And if they would have pattern sales within that period. She is interested in Victorian clothing. If there is anything interesting to see from taht period she would love to know too. Thanx for help, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] leg o'mutton sleeve question
Hi, I am going to make an anime costume witch has leg o'mutton sleeves. I never made these before. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Crossplay/AllanSchezar.jpg I have pattern 3716 from Butterick. I have light weight cotton and slightly heavier. Normally shirts are from lightweight cotton but I wonder if that would work well with these sleeves. Should I cut the sleeves on the strait or on the cross grain? Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian Lacroix
Nice inspiration. But to me the bride looks like she was just dug up from a grave They all look like walking corpses. Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Its sunday, and usually borring on h-costume so i thoaght it would be ok to send a clip of Christian Lacroix' new collection, to me it looks fabulous, with lots of gorgeous beadings. The weddingdress is very italian rennaissance fantasy to me. http://www.dr.dk/NETTV/Update/2007/07/04/20070704110115.htm Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] WOT Bjarne,
If it is more like German trachten = clothing it may be in Dutch dressing this would mean a liquid to do over a salad... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] WOT Bjarne,
Mmmm I am not so sure. Is this the sentence it is from? Vom Ochsen seind drei und achtzigerlei Speise und Trachten zu machen I wish my English would be better. If I translate it to Dutch I get this Van ossen zijn 83 spijzen en te maken. If Trachten means to try the sentence would be different Van ossen kun je 83 spijzen trachten te maken. It looks more like something you can eat. otsisto wrote: The try to or endeaver is sounding like what it is. Because I am ever so rusty with the German and only tidbits of Norwegian, I did not trust my translation of the word. The phrase: Vom Ochsen seind drei und achtzigerlei Speise und Trachten zu machen Thank you all for the help! :) De -Original Message- On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, michaela de bruce wrote: In Dutch it means to try now (according to babelfish anyway), so the context is going to be very important. If it's Rumpolt (which I use quite often in experimenting with vegetable dishes) it's a noun anyway, not a verb. This may be way off, but in Norwegian we use the verb traktere, and one of its meanings is to serve food and/or drink. Usually (nowadays, anyway) it implies some kind of extra effort made in the serving, that the person doing the traktering is aiming to please. Another meaning is simply to treat/handle. The etymology is from norse traktera from the latin tractare, as far as I'm able to make out (from the best online Norwegian dictionary; http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/ordboksoek/ordbok.cgi?), the same etymology as the English word treat. Ingrid ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Your dream costume
Sorry if you get this message more than once. It's been several hours since I send a message but it doesn't appear on the list. Mmmm I think I found several dresses. I love this pink one http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J1.jpg But it will cost many meters of fabric. I also love this style of dress. Especially the bodice. I would like it a bit more modern I think. In black with lots of embroidery, lace and some sparkling diamonds http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J2.jpg Mmmm Yum. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J3.jpg I want a male 18th century white silk with gold embroidery complete set. And then wear it to modern party's. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Your dream costume
Mmmm I think I found several dresses. I love this pink one http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J1.jpg But it will cost many meters of fabric. I also love this style of dress. Especially the bodice. I would like it a bit more modern I think. In black with lots of embroidery, lace and some sparkling diamonds http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J2.jpg Mmmm Yum. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J3.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Your dream costume
Oops I forgot one! I would love to have a male 18th century white silk with gold embroidery complete set. And than wear it to modern party's. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Your dream costume
Oops I forgot one! I would love to have a male 18th century white silk with gold embroidery complete set. And than wear it to modern party's. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Your dream costume
I was thinking of what my next costume would be and I came to an interesting question. What would be your dream costume? If you wouldn't be limited by money or your own expertise. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] was( What's your day job?) Bone effect
This is how I made all the bone effects. Take a a pair white of tights. Use one leg for the leg and make the other in to a glove. The bones on the arm and leg are painted on with black paint. Everywhere there should be shadow you paint it with shades of black paint. To make it a little more nasty paint one layer of latex over it. (this will make the tights less stretchy and it will fit not fit as perfect as before but it makes it looks dead.) For the bones on the dress.. Don't read this when you are a vegetarian! You buy some yummy spare ribs put them in an oven at 130 degrees Celsius. After about 45 minutes when the flesh almost falls from the bones you take them out. Make some potato's and some vegetables of whatever you like to eat with your spare ribs. Note: watch out! Do not to eat your fingers we don't need those bones! After your very yummy dinner you search for three nicely clean bones. You lay those three in a bowl of warm water and clean them after a wile with a brush. To get them white you can put the in a bowl with some bleach but not too long! Just two or three minutes. Clean them with water and let them dry. Then you can glue them on. And for some more deadly effect you can paint some latex on. Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote: Deredere, The BONE effects are AMAZING! How did you do that? --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Jun 5, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Deredere Galbraith wrote: I am trying to make a living with selling hand made Fantasy, Ghotic, Lolita, Japanese street wear inspired clothing on line and on fantasy fairs here in the Netherlands. I also make wedding dresses And other costumes. The last order I did was 10 dance costumes for a piece called Cabaret for a Jazz dance group. It was hard work but also a lot of fun. Oh I forget the 15 little skirts and tops for the little children's who did a part from the musical Anny. I normally don't do historical costumes for others. They take too much work. But I love to make them for myself. And of course fantasy costumes. The last one I made was a fast and low budget Corpse Bride. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Lijkje.jpg http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Lijkje2.jpg Since I started to make a living of it I don't make so much for myself anymore. Right now I need to invest a lot of money and time to make it work. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
I would love to embroider it by hand but knowing myself I would never finish it :-( . So I have a few options. Totally embroider it by machine. Or appliques of wool or silk and gold cord stichet on by machine. (I know it is not period but probably the only way for me to make a beautiful dress within reasonable time. And having fun making it. although I am not happy having it to do it this way) Silk velvet would be very nice. The cheapest I found is around 60 euro for a meter and it is white... 1 Meter would hopefully be more than enough. (I could use some scraps for an other project..) I have white silk that I would like to dye for the lining. The lining looks more pink than the red on the dress. I can easily get that pinkish red from the lining with madder but I never got a real red from it.. Should I use some sort of backing for the embroidery? Greetings, Deredere Deredere Galbraith wrote: Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
Thanx for the idea. I think I used something like this. I wanted to buy the stuf that sticks on one side but bought the double sided instead. I didn't know that it existed. My local shop sells it I think. It is probably not the same but I can try if it works. Kimiko Small wrote: Steam a Seam 2 is what I used. It keeps the edge of the velvet appliques I worked on, fused permanently when I wanted it, was easy enough to sew through without getting the needle sticky, and comes highly recommended by embroidery artists and quilt artists I know. Those artists are the ones who recommend the #2 version, not the regular version. They say the #2 version is lighter, and less likely to gum your needles. But try both and see what works best for you. http://www.warmcompany.com/saspage.html It comes in sheets, and in thin rolls of various widths. I use the roll SaS2 for holding down trims before sewing. I really like this stuff. Kimiko --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/30/2007 12:29:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the name for that stuff? Sounds wonderfull! * Alas, I have no idea. But I picked it up at the local, ho-hum fabric store. I'll look for it the next time I'm there, and write the name down so I can post it here. [Unless someone else knows already] Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new Butterick pattern 5061
Well accurate or not I like the pattern. I think I am going to make it just to sleep in. B and C look so cute and romantic. :-) Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Embossing leather
Hi, I am looking for a site that explains how to emboss leather. That is something I would love to try. It is not for historical use. It is for a fantasy Ares god of war costume for my husband next year. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] i cant deside.........
I did it like this http://www.deredere.dds.nl/18thcent/18woman/Robealafrancaise/FR2.jpg I didn't had the fabric to make more pleats but it is a bit more springy. The problem I have with both options is the gold trim. On the right it is too small and on the right too gold (kitsch). Deredere Dawn wrote: Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: I think the left box pleated side is two boring, its flat, and not at all like i wanted it, the ruched one gives more shading to the silk. Is the gold trim two much? I think if you sewed the box pleated trim up the center instead of at the edges you would get much more interest with it. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] WOOOHOOOO!!!
Well I am looking forward to see the pictures! I thought you didn't want to make dresses anymore ;-) . Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Sorry but its so quiet here on the list, and i just had to share. I have finnished! with the anglaise dress. I dont know if you have had the same feeling as i have now, but this dress is f.. beautifull. Its my masterpiece ever. I shall rush home from work tomorrow with a big box from the postoffice to send it in, and i shall take some nice pictures in the daylight, its evening now, and the flash pictures are bad. God i am so happy, and its nice to get it send away so that i can have my mind focused on the new dress i am going to make Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern ease
Hi, They still run large. I always make it one ore two sizes smaller. Greetings, Deredere Lauren Walker wrote: Hi, I am thinking about buying a Simplicity pattern for a modern dress style, but it has been years and years since I used one of theirs (most of my historic stuff I just fit to myself.) When I was younger, the patterns were made with so much ease that if I followed the cutting lines for the size suggested by my measurements, the finished product would be about six inches too big -- the ease must have been about 10 inches! Has anybody got a sense of how these patterns run now? The style I'm looking at is fairly fitted, so I want to start with a pattern that's reasonably close to the right size. thanks! Lauren Lauren M. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1860 dress
Hi, I am so happy. Finally I made my 1860 dress so that I really like it. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html I wore it at the Anton Pieck Parade in Haarlem (the Netherlands). We had so much fun. There are some more pictures here (click on galerij in the menu on the left) http://www.de_zwarte_zwaan.dds.nl/index2.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A visit from your English major
OOps :-[ English is not my native language. So I hope I didn't offended anyone because it was certainly not my intention. In Dutch it is called a travestiet Didn't know that you write it different in English. :-) Greetings, Deredere Lauren Walker wrote: Deredere Galbraith wrote: One of the mistakes a lot of travesties make is that they use to much makeup. And colors that are too hard. Greetings, Deredere I hope I am not being dense about a deliberate pun, but I think we are talking about transvestites here, not travesties. Though of course camp is itself something of a good-natured sort of travesty. Best, Lauren Lauren M. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Research on medieval instrument cases?
Mmm I don't think back quivers are medieval. Altough I love them. Greetings, Deredere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read all the interesting suggestions posted so far. What occurs to me, particularly because you want him to be able to wear it on his back, is a modified quiver. You could even play the jest all the way and put a few dummy arrows in there along with the recorder--maybe make a rigid tie-down lid for the quiver and mount a clutch of feathered arrow-tops on that? Sorry--I've been reading an awful lot (an awful LOT or an AWFUL lot? I think I mean it both ways...) of freshman essays and am taking refuge in whimsy! --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 5, 2006 2:56 AM To: Historic Costume List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Research on medieval instrument cases? My 10-year-old son, who is far more musically inclined than I am, just had his first experience at a medieval costumed event, where he went for the sole purpose of finding the opportunity to play early music with other like-minded souls. He intends to do more of this. He has a suitable costume (c. 1300 in style, roughly Luttrell Psalter working-class). However, he could use a way to carry his recorder safely and conveniently. Ideally, it should be something that hangs from his body, as he has the habit of putting things down and forgetting them. I have never had the need to research period instrument cases, and I don't really want to start now. But given the number of minstrel-types doing re-enactment, I'm betting someone else has already devoted energy to this subject. Can anyone point me to a webpage or other source for guidance? If I don't find any hard documentation, I figure I'll take some quilted fabric and make a recorder-sized tube, and then cover that with some wool -- or else just use batting between two layers to create a padded tube. The end could close with a foldover that can be fastened (latchet or button), or maybe with a drawstring. It would also need a strap that would let him carry it on his back. (He does wear a belt, but he's small for his age, and even a soprano recorder would end up knocking around his knees if he hung it from a belt.) If anyone has advice to improve on that scheme, I'm all ears. I have ruled out stuffing it down his hood liripipe primarily because he'd probably end up sitting on it. But believe me, I was tempted. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Hi, Mine is wearing my 1860 dress that I am improving and made a day bodice for. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/jurk.jpg I am going to wear it 9 December at an Anton Piek fair. And there is still so much that I need to do... http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a question about museums
Hi, This is the website from the Kyoto Costume institute. http://www.kci.or.jp/menu-e.html They have a huge digital collection. Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hi, I went to se the Marie Antoinette movie last week, and my eyes fell on a gentlemans suit. It was copyed from Revolution in Fashion from Kyoto. After the movie all i could think about was i want to embroider that suit two, i tryed to photograph from the book and make a pattern repeat of the embroidery, and i can, but its impossible to se how big the embroidery is. Do you think the museum would let me buy a photo of the embroidery and also meassures of the embroidery, (how wide it is)? Next i think about, maybe the museum dont have any pictures at all, maybe it was the makers of the books who owns the pictures? I was very surprised recently when i asked a museum in Gotland, Sweden about a pair of stays in their collection, i noticed it in a new swedish book. When i contakted the museum, they didnt have any pictures of it. Japan is way out of my budget to travel to just for that. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1860 leather gloves
Hi, I am looking for pictures of leather ladies gloves from around 1860. I tried to find the on the Internet but I can't seem to find any. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Cut on bias??
Hi, I was looking at Simplicity pattern 4510 an 1860 dress. The directions say that you cut the skirt ruffles on the bias. Is that something they did on plain colored ruffles? I am enhancing a gown that I already have http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html I am going to make a day bodice and put some ruffles on the gown like in this picture http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/test.jpg The gown is made from taffeta the ruffles will be black taffeta(synthetic). Would the ruffles look better if I cut them on the bias??? Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new danish court dress
Hi, I understand that you don't want to put much work in a dress you don't like to make. But I don't think the pleats will make it more difficult for her to manage to walk in it. Would the dress look as beautiful as the one you made without that much fabric? I don't like red for a dress from that period either. But if you can look at it as fantasy but historical inspired would that help? People will still see the quality of your work. I made a fantasy dress inspired by the 18th century on a verry busy gaming convention last Saturday. The train became a little problem later on the day when it became extremely busy but I could still manage to walk trough all those people. (The orange and creme dress) http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Fantasy/Chii/ChiiFreya2.jpg http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Fantasy/Chii/ChiiFreya2Back.jpg A lot of people loved the dress It is more a matter of adjusting the way you walk to the dress and the situation and remember that others won't be used to such dresses and will step on the skirts. Be alert to stop walking the moment you feel that someone is standing on your dress. Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Some years ago i made this danish court dress for a museum. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/mu7.htm The dress is a reconstruktion of the french court style used in mid 1700 in Denmark. A young girl asked me to make another one for her, she want a red one. It is to be used at the mannor house, when the 1700 fair takes place. All this is outdoor activities at the mannor house, both servants and the aristocracy are supposed to mingle together, take strows in the courtyard, in the park, and so on. Tradesmen stands in the courtyard, selling different kinds of goods. I have some consern about this. First i hate red, but she insists on this, and after all she pays, so i accept this. ( would have preferred a dusty rose or something pastel) Second i am conserned for her because she wil have difficulties managing the big skirt. All the width of the pannier is pleated into the waist, and there are many folds to manage. She agree that i dont have to make the train, it would never have ben used outdoor anyway. But shouldnt i try to convince her that it would be much easyer for her to manage the skirt, if i make a seam in the middle of the pannier. This way i dont have to make all the pleats, and much of the width will be much more easy to manage for her? Wished she would have ordered an other type of dress, but she dreams about the courtdress. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] yardage for a anglaise dress underskirt
I probably would use 2. Both of the underskirts I made are with 2 withs and they look well I think. Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hello, I wanted to ask you all about how many widths you would use of a taffeta fabric 140 cm. wide - to an underskirt of an anglaise dress? I want it to be rather full with a bumroll, would 3 widths be two much? I am nearly finishing the embroidery for the skirt front and have calculated 140 cm, to show in the front. Perhaps 3 widths is two much? Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pictures of Regency Ball at castle Hohenlimburg
Hi, We have been to a beautiful Regency ball in Germany. It was our first Regency event. Here are some pictures. http://www.mystictimes.nl/Regency/RegencyBall.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] regency robe 1812
Thanks for the response. I think it is a great style for a wedding dress. And a removable train makes it even better. But the waist is a little higher than normal waist how do you keep the belt at the right hight? Bjarne do you have pictures of the dress you made? Maby she wants hand embroidery or machine embroidery on her train. Or I could use applications and hand embroidery... Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: This is a style i made some years ago with a long train, embroidered with seaquins. It was made of pink dupioni, because the hairdressers who ordered it, couldnt afford more. It is a seperate train attached round the waist with a belt closed in the front. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Regency robe 1812
Hi, I found a beautifull picture on the web from a 1812 robe. http://exposition2005.monsite.wanadoo.fr/page8.html http://exposition2005.monsite.wanadoo.fr/page5.html I have been asked to make a wedding dress in this style but I don't know much about it. She send me two small drawings and the dress above was the only one I could find in the same style It looks very french to me. I can't seem to find more pictures of this style of dress. I would love to have more pictures to see what types of fabric and embellishmend was used. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What do you do?
Maby take a break and do something totally different. Take some distance. But some things will never dissapear totally. I love ballet and making costumes. I quit ballet when I was around 15. But started again when at 27. I do it now twice a week and love it even more than before. With costumes, I started to make 16th century clothing while in the SCA. But at some point in time I noticed that I didn't have fun anymore in the SCA. Sometimes You grow out of things and it is time to move on. I started doing reenactment. But now my top priorety is triening to make a little money with making fantasy costumes. Mostly because I love making fantasy costumes for my self. And this way I can afford them. And making Bunny backpacks that a lot of people find totally childish but I just love them. And I hope some people who buy them will have as much fun with them as I do. Don't worry and give yourself time. Just endyoy whatever you do. Sometimes it is just to find a way to a different angle to look at things. At least you know that the work you have done is loved by many people. But what ever you do don't let it force you to do things that you don't want. Good luck, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Many thanks . In my youth i used to be good at telling storiesm perhaps thats an obsion? Thanks for you being there... v - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] What do you do? Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: What is left then? All my other hobbies. As much as I love sewing, costuming and dressing up, it's not my entire life. Go outside, try something new. Resurrect old hobbies that you used to enjoy. Try out a hobby you've never done before. Go to the beach. It's normal to get tired of an activity after a while and want to do something else. Give yourself the time off. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ribbon embroidery frame
I made a ribbon embroidery frame myself for embroidering the ribbon for my weddingdress. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/16thcent/16woman/Weddingdress/Emdevice.jpg http://www.deredere.dds.nl/16thcent/16woman/Weddingdress/weddingdress.html They aren't very hard to make. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Picture of my silk bliaut
Finally a picture of the bliaut I am working on. Made from natural dyed silk and the belt from natural dyed wool http://mystictimes.nl/Bliaut/ZijdeBliaut.jpg Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Picture of my silk bliaut
It is the very basic construction. with gores to make the skirt wider and side lacing with added lengt. The pleating is done by moisting the silk, pleat and let it dry for a day. Here is the rest of the website. It is in Dutch http://mystictimes.nl/Bliaut/Bliaut.html Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: Greetings-- Deredere Galbraith wrote: Finally a picture of the bliaut I am working on. Made from natural dyed silk and the belt from natural dyed wool http://mystictimes.nl/Bliaut/ZijdeBliaut.jpg Very spiff! You've definitely got the look down. Which construction method did you use? (For the uninitiated, there are several theories of bliaut construction, including simple side lacing, side lacing with added length through the body to get the folds across the belly, bias-cut, separate skirt piece, and various types of pleating/smocking--not to mention the largely discredited corselet cut). Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Hand fan silk handpainted
Hi, Today I've bought a nice folding fan on an antiek market. I just fell in love with it and had to buy it. But the silk is damaged. Is this reperable? I am thinking of taking the fabric of and put new silk on it. I have just the right silk for it. I am a very practical person and I like to use things instead of letting them gather dust. But in this state it is not usable. I am wondering how others think of what I schould do. And does anyone knows from which period this fan is? Pictures from the fan are on the bottom of the page. http://mystictimes.nl/Gallery/Gallery.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Greetings and question about a painting
A nice wool works. I have made this one. Unfortionally I don't have a good picture of it. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/16thcent/16woman/IF3.jpg Sue Clemenger wrote: Could be either, I think. Slashing wasn't exactly unknown on woven fabrics g, but there are a couple of doublets in _Patterns of Fashion_ that are made, at least in part, of suede and/or leather. It could be velvet or another piled fabric, or really, really nice wool (given that this fellow isn't an aristocrat), OR leather. Think you'd have to experiment with drape and whatnot --Sue - Original Message - From: Lonnie D. Harvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: [h-cost] Greetings and question about a painting Greetings! I am new to the list. I have a BFA in a theater from the University of Georgia (US) in both performance and costume design. I went on into computer science, but have continued costuming, mostly in community theater settings. I have a question about the fabric/material used in the Beham Portrait of a Man, German/Bavarian, 1529. My original guess was a velvet, but looking closer at the image, especially the cut-work in the trim and collar, I have begun wondering if this was a suede of some kind. I am curious as to what fabrics would be likely. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New pattern
Somehow I find the hoops and bustles a bit weird looking. I am not sure what it is. Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote: Thought some of you who re-enact Victorian and Dickens eras would be interested in the new pattern from Laughing Moon (I'm just waiting for my new stock to arrive). It's the Hoops and Bustles package, LM112. Looks like another fabulous addition to this premiere line of patterns. For details you can visit http://www.5rivers.org/en-gb/p_1058.html which will take you to that specific pattern. There's also been a wonderful addition to the Laughing Moon Men's Frock Coat pattern, in that in now includes a single-breasted, as well as the double-breasted frock coat, with the original two vests that were included in the pattern. Again, I'm just waiting for my new stock to arrive. You can view that pattern at: http://www.5rivers.org/en-gb/p_776.html Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Men's shoes 1800-1810 question
Thanks for all the response. I am getting an idee of what I can do. I don't want him to buy expensive shoes just for one event. Greetings, Deredere Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote: My husband is in Once Upon A Mattress and just bought jazz shoes-- flat, black, with a small heel. Not perfectly period, but close, easy to find and comfortable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Men's shoes 1800-1810 question In a message dated 2/23/2006 10:26:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Flat pumps, very like ladies' shoes of the same period. Ditto--definitely NOT boots--they were not proper for the drawing room nor for the ballroom. My husband wears a loafer type shoe, but with the seam stitched inside, like this. _http://www.allenedmonds.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchDisplayDetailVi ew ?storeId=1langId=-1contractId=100catalogId=401parent_category_rn =1 83categoryId=190productId=637imageType=1occasion=190_ (http://www.allenedmonds.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchDisplayDetailVi ew?storeId=1langI d=-1contractId=100catalogId=401parent_category_rn=183categoryId= 19 0productId=637imageType=1occasion=190) Regular formal pumps don't seem to come wide enough to fit him. But if you can find them, they would be best. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pictures of my husbands 19th century costume
Unfortionally original hats are much cheaper than new hats. If we want a new hat it will kost us at least tree times as much and we can't afford that. They only cheaper hats I could find were felt one size fits none hats. He wil wear it probably once a year. And I think more people can endjoy the hat while he is wearing it with his costume than when we have it at home in a box. Greetings, Deredere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/2006 10:39:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19man/Men19th/Men19th.html It looks very good. The hat is yours, so he can wear it if he wants to, but I would discourage wearing a real artifact. You can find very good reproductions of that style of hat and they aren't too expensive. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Men's shoes 1800-1810 question
Hi, I was wondering wat kind of shoes a men would be wearing at a ball in 1800-1810. I have some pictures of men but they are wearing boots and I am not sure if that would be right for dancing. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pictures of my husbands 19th century costume
Finally I have pictures! Doesn't he look handsome :-) . http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19man/Men19th/Men19th.html The hat he is wearing is an original from 1850 at least that is wat toled to me. It is my fhirst 19th century men's costume and I think I can do better but I am happy it is finished. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question
I am going for the very pleated version like the statues. The silk holds pleats very wel. I will make it wet and pleat the fabric than let it dry. http://www.bluffton.edu/%7Esullivanm/chartreswest/jambs.html _http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/z/zurbaran/2/casilda.html_ (http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/z/zurbaran/2/casilda.html) _http://cartelen.louvre.fr/cartelen/visite?srv=car_not_frameidNotice=603_ (http://cartelen.louvre.fr/cartelen/visite?srv=car_not_frameidNotice=603) These are very inspiring! If I make a green cloak green and make some green embroidery on the yellow belt and put small yellow embroidered bands along the neckline and sleeves... It is for a event caled Knights and Lady's. The story is that the knights just came bak from their crusade and I am showing my new dress my husband brought back for me :-) . otsisto wrote: I had notice that it was a bit light for a bliaut. Were you planning on making the mini pleated type garment with this? If you were going to use it for a regular bliaut and have the lining add the weight, you need to consider the color of the lining when choosing embroidery/trim accents because the color will change. Now for making you look younger, I'm sure that if this fabric does that and you are not happy, there are several women here who would gladly take it of your hands. It would be no problem.:) Shades of green are good as accent. Golds, some blue shades, pinks, silver and gray. You may want to consider two colors for accent but don't have too. Wish I could be as enthusiastic about dyeing like you but I think my enthusiasm went towards embroidery and beading. :) De -Original- Hi, Thanks for the response! I feel a lot happyer now :-) . It also looks better now in daylight. The only problem I have with it is that this colour probably will make me look even jonger than most people alredy think I am... :-\ And I have to look what colour belt and embroidery wil look better on the gown than yellow. I think green would look well. More reasons to dye more fabrik :-) . It is so much fun. Meekrap is indeed madder We used alun as a mordand And dyed it in a copper pan. 20% alun and afther a while I added 200% madder. and then cleaned with water with a little ammonia. I hope it won't ruin the silk. But it looks ok now. It is very thin silk don't know what it is called. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question
Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct english name. It is a root that gives orange to red colour and was used in medieval times. And then put in water with a little ammonia sinse orange is really not a colour for me. But I am not totally sure if this is much better :-\ . I would love to hear other opinions. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Looking for 1850-60 muff pattern
Hi, A friend of mine is looking for a 1850-60 muff pattern. Something like this http://www.gbacg.org/Patterns/forever.htm But I've read that this pattern is discontinued. She really likes the draught-stoppers. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dimentional embroidery
It is so beautifull! I never thought of making 3d embroidery but it looks so lovely! The hardshaped piece with roses is very nice too. It makes my hand itch to try to make something as nice as your pieces. Your a huge inspiration! Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hi, As you know i got a lightbox for christmas, and i emediately took it in use. I drafted a pattern for a ladys bag with gussets and a small flap that closes with a button. I make it in silk taffeta. I have finished the ground embroidery and have started with the dimentional embroidery. I made 5 flower leaves, 2 green leaves and a calyx and flowerbud in dimentional embroidery. Its embroidered with Eterna Stranded Silk Floss. I only used 1 strand folded, so for the entire embroidery you only need to use 5 skeins, of thread. 3 reds, 2 greens, and then a little yellow. So it is quite inexpensive to embroider with silk. I need to make the next dimentional embroidery, because the whole motif has the same flower mirrored 1 time. Its the latest at the bottom: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/purseembroideries.htm Yesterday i tryed if i could trace the pattern i want to make on the grey waistcoat trough my lightbox, and i could! Happy danse, using a white watercolour pencil. This will save me a lot of work. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] re: Japan Vakation question
I have tried but I don't get any results Cin wrote: I have posted answers to all of these questions. Please check the h-cost archives for Bunka Gakuin, Omotesando, Okadaya, Hanazono, Oeno Park and the Kyoto Museum of Costume. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Japan Vakation question To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, Does anyone kow more about interesting sites to visit in Japan? We would like to go somewhere in april/mei. I know you can make an appointment to see part of the digitial collection of the Kyoto Costume Institute. http://www.kci.or.jp/collection/coll-e.html This sounds quite interesting. I have the fashion book of the institute. Has anyone has any experience with their digital collection? Is it hard to get permission? The Japanese costume Museum sounds interesting too. Things I am most interested in are Historical costumes, Fabric stores, Gothic Lolita clothing. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Japan Vakation question
Hi, Does anyone kow more about interesting sites to visit in Japan? We would like to go somewhere in april/mei. I know you can make an appointment to see part of the digitial collection of the Kyoto Costume Institute. http://www.kci.or.jp/collection/coll-e.html This sounds quite interesting. I have the fashion book of the institute. Has anyone has any experience with their digital collection? Is it hard to get permission? The Japanese costume Museum sounds interesting too. Things I am most interested in are Historical costumes, Fabric stores, Gothic Lolita clothing. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] More info museum pictures
Some more info on the pictures http://mystictimes.nl/Gallery/Gallery.html It was great to see the clothing. They were so tiny! But maby I am just tall. In F1 you see me standing beside a dress. And the stiches were much smaller than my machine can make them. Most of the costumes where displayd so that you can see all sides. I can't wait to next year when I hopefully go to the Kyoto museum. Willet-Holthuysen museum It is a small museum in Amsterdam, Netherlands. It is in a 17th century canalside house on the Gentelmans Canal. It is a special exebithion that runs to the 22 of January. The Willet-Holthuysen museum is part of the Amsterdam Historical Museum. http://www.willetholthuysen.nl/tentoonstelling.php?id=8 The book from the exebition is called Rijk Gekleed, van doopjurk tot baljapon 1750-1940 by Annemarie Dekker ISBN 90 68683985 it is in Dutch. Publisher http://www.thoth.nl/. All the clothing are real and not reproductions. Most of the pieces are given to the Amsterdam Historical museum from private collections. I tried to translate some info on the costumes. A1-3 Robe a la francaise 1755-1760 West European, Handpainted silk. More than 80 different flowers, 11 butterflies, some insects and a bird. The interesting thing about this dress is that the painting is not random but carefully placed on the pattern pieces. B1-7 Robe a la Francaise 1770 Silk with woven stripes and embroidered flowers. Body lined in linnen C1 Robe a la Francaise 1775 (altered Around 1900 used for costume balls) Silk with woven pattern. It is made shorter and the bodice a bit looser. But basic shape is left intact D1 Robe al la langlaise 1770 (altered around 1900 used for costume balls) This gown has changed a lot! E1-4 Robe a la Francaise 1780 Silk with satin applique petticoat and stomacher are not the original. In the musee Les Arts Decorative in paris is a simular gown wich is complete. F1-2 1750-1775 Ribsilk, top part body lined with linnen G1 European stamped cotton lined in linnen H1-H6 Robe al la langlaise 1780 (silk 1760) (Gebrocheerde)?? silk damast, Tablier?? woolen lining, body lined in linnen. Probably Altered from a gown from 1760 I1 Two piece dress 1795-1800 Hand painted cotton Probably an alteration from a Robe a la Francaise from 1770 J1 1795-1800 Silk damast from 1750-1760 Altered K1-2 1795-1800 Silk embroidered with gold en silver thread and sprangles lined in linnen Silk from 1785-1790 Altered Sorry forgot to take pictures of whole dress :-[ . It is in the book. L1-10 Empire dress 1800-1815 Cotton batist Note the very tiny seams. About 3mm. La1 Lb1 I don't have any information from these dresses M1 Stamped cotton 1838 N1-4 Changeant silk with woven stripes. 1840 Note. Front is knife pleated back is carderidge pleated. Na1 No information O1-2 Silk woven stripes, cotton lining 1847 From Geertruide Springer-ten Cate (1819-1902) Note. Front is knife pleated back is carderidge pleated. P1-2 P2 is on the bottom of page stamped cotton 1855 Q1-2 three piece dress 1865 Tafetta silk *machine embroidered!* R1-4 1870 Linnen S1-4 three piece bustle gown 1873 Cotton, brodery anglaise T1-4 wool and taft silk U1 No info on adult dress Childs dress 1880-1890 Ribsilk cotton lining V1-3 silk 1895 Body and skirt don't belong togheter. W1 Velvet, oistrich feathers Original it had short puffy sleaves but was alered to wear the gown for a different ocasion. Lacing in the back X1-3 ribsilk 1902 Y1-2 silk voile woven flower motif, machine made lace. Uw1-Uw3 Corsets 1875-1900 Uw4-5 Dobble crinoline 1865 Cotton with metal hoops. It is one small hoopskirt for walking and trevaling. And a tail piece that is attached to buttons on the smaller crinoline for evening and ball dresses. The circumference is 3,5meter Uw6 Under skirt 1725-1775 Linnen 1M Empire 1800-1815 silk with linnen, Linnen lining 1M2-3-4-6 1770-1810 1M5 Habit a la francaise 1800 Velvet, silverthread, silk sprangles (Coat) Silk with linnen lining (trousers) Satin, silverthread, Sprangles linnen and silk lining (vest) 1M7 1780-1790 Silk, laken silk lining Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Casanova (possible spoiler)
Looks like the corset is made out of foam. Mary wrote: I found this image on IMDB: http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0402894/Ss/0402894/001.jpg?path=gallerypath_key=0402894 Not the best photo, but you can definitely see her corset (and her thru it!!) ~mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:43:17 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Casanova (possible spoiler) I feel compelled to comment here. I saw Casanova last Sunday and for the most part the costumes are lovely. Not perfect, but quite good. With one rather glaring exception. This could be considered a spoiler, so I'll skip some space : : : : : : : : : : : : At the climactic scene of the movie, Francesca is wearing her shift, petticoat and a corset. But it is the weirdest corset I've ever seen! The style and cut was correct, but you could see both or her breasts clearly outlined in the cloth, right down to her nipples! And detailed enough to tell that her right breast is lower than her left. I can't figure out why it looks like that, or even how they achieved that look. I suppose if you left out all the boning you might get that, but still, with at least two layers of coutil (or some other sturdy fabric) you shouldn't be able to see her breasts like that. Granted, earlier in the film the character has a comment about how hideous corsets are, so if that's the point they're trying to underline, why have her in a corset at all? I'm stumped, and it really yanked me out of the movie at that point. I'm curious to hear anyone elses comments after they've seen it. Julie «:*´`´`*:»§«.»§«:*´`´`*:».«:*´`´`*:»§«.»§«:*´`´`*:» Pictures of perfection, as you know, make me sick wicked. ~ Jane Austen Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before. ~ Steven Wright ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] A holiday gift for you all
Hi, I have made some pictures in a museum a lot of you will probably like. Since they are taking a lot of space I will keep them up for only a week. You may use them for peronal use. If you want some information about a picture feel free to ask. I'll try to answer them as best I can. Endjoy looking! http://mystictimes.nl/Gallery/Gallery.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Holiday/Secret Santa Gifts
I got The Cut of womens clothing and The Cut of man's clothing by Nora Waugh from my husband. A nice book from a special exebithion Rijk Gekleed (well dressed) and visited it (the pictures are from there) From my mother in law a dremel (small hand drill machine) perfect for making moulds for casting or jewelry. And some more power tools. Not really for making historical costumes but perfect for a centour costume I still would like to make... Bought myself very nice batist for a regency dress. Made myself a beautifull coat. I can wear it over a bustle dress but I like to wear it also as my normal winter coat. I'll have to make pictures of it. It is black wool so it is a bit difficult to make pictures of. But it is probably going to snow some more tomorrow :-) . And From my secret Santa I've got a nice piece of old lace and a handmade bowl from fabric and thread. Thank you Pamela! And my bunny got a x-mas hat and scarf and a very little stuffed Icebear ;-) Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A holiday gift for you all
The url for the site is http://www.willetholthuysen.nl/tentoonstelling.php?id=8 Deredere Galbraith wrote: It is a small museum in Amsterdam, Netherlands. It is in a 17th century canalside house on the Gentelmans Canal. It is a special exebithion that runs to the 22 of January. The Willet-Holthuysen museum is part of the Amsterdam Historical Museum. The book from the exebition is called Rijk Gekleed, van doopjurk tot baljapon 1750-1940 by Annemarie Dekker ISBN 90 68683985 it is in Dutch. Publisher http://www.thoth.nl/. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] gamberson question
Someone asked me to make a gamberson for him. Where they made of linnen? And in what colours? I get the idea that white was the most common colour. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] gamberson question
Thanks! That is very interesting. I am probaly going to use the period pattern since I have it. It is for a 15th century gambeson. And the person wil only wear a fiew armour parts. He wants it as korrect as possible. But likes it to have a colour. The only colour I have ever seen is red. But I don't now if a normal soldier would wear it in red. For filling I am thinking of using loose sheep wool or cotton batting used for making quilts. Just sew over the cloth with batting between it is much faster but would that be right? He doesn't want a very thick gambeson because he will also use the costume in play's and it will get hot under the stage lights. otsisto wrote: A gambeson is padding worn under the armour. Linen and wool were used, usually in the medium to heavy weight. If you are a part of the Society for Creative Anachronism, authenticity is encouraged but not manditory when it comes to garment fiber content. Try to go for the linen as it breaths better then cotton. As for colours I do not know. There are several sites online on how to make them. This one shows a white http://www.charlesfleming-sca.com/military/gambeson.htm http://www.liebaart.org/wambui_e.htm (?) http://www.thule.vas.nu/kampanj/tillverkningstips/gambeson.htm Commercial Pattern http://www.mediaevalmisc.com/pp101.htm De -Original Message- Someone asked me to make a gamberson for him. Where they made of linnen? And in what colours? I get the idea that white was the most common colour. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Happy Holidays!
Hi, I wish you all Happy Holiday's! http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/X/XB2.jpg Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bustle dress question
Hi, I have a bustle dress and I am wondering if it would look weird to make an evening bodice for the dress. The dress is very simple and made from cotton. But I have just one week to finish a coat and vest for my husband and a dress for me. This is the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
Unfortionally I can't find any fabric that looks right with the purple. And I won't be able to buy new fabric. It is just a normal party and the people won't know if it is not right. It is just that the dress doesn't feel like an evening dress to me. But you all gave me some ideas. What I could do is add some white lace to the bottom of the apron. And also use the lace on the evening bodice. And some darkpurple satin ribbon decoration on the bottom of the skirt. Maby that will do it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
I understand wy ebay say's it is spam.. You sell regency style dresses and not a dress from the movie. And the dress is also not from Jane Austen. But you could say Jane Austen style in the discription of the item. But it is a bit weird that they are sending this now. It happends so often that people use a movie title to sell their costumes. And it makes it very difficult to get the right people to see you auction. But on the otherhand maby people will do a little more research if they want a dress in style of a perticulary book or movie. Not that I think that will happen. How many times people asked me to make a medieval dress and alway's start with telling me they want a hoopskirt. A J Garden wrote: Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Original Message Subject: eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming (=LS 7193 JM5023424) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:22:44 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear cottager87, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following multiple item listing(s): 8359259226 - Regency Dress: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Gown However, your listing was in violation of eBay's Keyword Spamming policy and has been removed from eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted. Your listing(s) contains the following information: In Title: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Keyword spamming is not permitted on eBay. This typically occurs when members place brand names or other inappropriate keywords in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting members to a listing. * Use of Brand Names: Our policy does not permit members to include any brand names in the listing title other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being offered in the listing. * Custom-made items: Although an item may be fabricated to visually match a specific product line of a recognized brand name, members are not permitted to include the name of the product line, or the related brand name in the listing title. * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. This means that although a celebrity may have worn a similar item, or made such an item popular in current pop-culture, members are not permitted to use the names of these celebrities or known figures in the listing title. Our policy permits a seller to use *one* name as a comparison within the subtitle or description section of the listing. For more information on Keyword Spamming visit the following Help page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension. Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html For more information on why eBay removes multiple item listings, or to write to us with questions, please review the following Web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/listing-ended.html We thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, eBay Trust Safety ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency embroidery question
I tried a bit of embroidery in knitting kotton no. 12 And I think I like it. Made a little sample http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/RegencyBall/embroiderytest2.jpg Enlarged http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/RegencyBall/embroiderytest3.jpg I find the DMC a bit to shiny But I will try it too. Greetings, Deredere Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hi Deredere, I would buy a DMC cotton floss if i were you. Its stranded into 6 threads. You can try to use one strand, two strands and 3 strands, and deside wich you like! Bjarne - Original Message - From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: [h-cost] Regency embroidery question Hi, I am planning on making a regency gown. http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/god1/hob_1983.6.1,07.146.5.htm And I have found the perfect cotton voile. But know I am wondering what kind of embroidery thread I should use. The discription says heavy white cotton thread. It looks not very tightly spun. Has anyone any idea what I could use? I wish I had some close up pictures of this type of embroidery. There is one in the Kyoto book but that embroidery is too heavy to my taste. Like the subtle smaller patterns better. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Slightly OT: Rope Makers?
I never used one myself but saw someone using it. It is very easy to make rope with it. For small cords I use a hair twister the braid X-press. Like this one http://www.bodydeco.co.uk/acatalog/Hair_Briading.html. Bought it secondhand for 1 Euro. For two to four strands. Greetings, Deredere Lauren Walker wrote: Hi, Has anybody used either the Schacht Incredible Rope Machine or the Leonardo Rope Maker, which costs about half what the Schacht does, and is supposedly based on a design by Leonardo DaVinci? I am thinking of getting one for some passementerie I want to make to decorate my living room -- curtain tie-backs, for instance -- but I can tell that once I have it, twisted-cord trim will be showing up in my costuming, too. Has anybody played with these toys? The pictures are so small on most Web sites that it is hard to tell whether they are easy to use or anything else about them, so any first-hand info would be appreciated. Thanks! Lauren ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency question
Hi, Thank you for the response! I'll try to answer all the emails at once. I will hopefully get the Cut of Men's Clothes (Norah Waugh) and the Cut of Women's Clothes as a X-mas present from my husband. I already read in a revieuw that the patterns are from pre-1780s and the other half from 1840 on. But I am also planning on making a 1860 or 1885 Dickens fair costume for my husband. I have the Laughing Moon 109 men's frock coat for that. It will be the fhirst time I will make something tailord as that and the pattern looks quite difficult. Diana Snipp Actually, if you look closer at the embroidered white dresses, they use a very light cotton fabric and leave it smooth across the front. Then start your pleating around where the arms hang and the majority of the pleats are in the back. It is much more flattering than pleating or gathering all around the top of the skirt. I think I'll do that. Thanks for the idea. I hadn't noticed it before. Bjarne Snipp In Koehler´s book, there is a nice cut of a gentlemans garment for this event. Its from 1804. This is not one of the coats that is cut straight over at the front, but has the curves from previous fashion. That book is on my wish list too. I would love to make a beautifull embroidered 18th century costume for my husband like the ones you make. And I probaby will some day. Because of that I think it would be more interesting for me to make a more different costume for this period. Ann Wass Snipp Hill and Bucknell's Evolution of Fashion I have a copy of a part of that book. Unfortionally only untill 1585 De Snipp Gallery with some regency http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_early.htm Yum Aylwen Garden Snipp I am in the middle of making some Regency tailcoats - I have been scaling up patterns from RL Shep Federalist Regency Costume: 1790-1819. If you want to chat while you're putting it together I'm only an email away. Cheers, Aylwen Garden http://www.regencyreproductions.com http://stores.ebay.com.au/Earthly-Delights You make beautifull costumes! Federalist Regency Costume: 1790-1819 Looks like an interesting book. But it looks like it is out of print :( Kathleen Snipp Think that the one I have and have used is from Rockinghorse Farm(?), It is double breasted, with the proper pleats at the tail opening at the back. This one little detail is missing from at least one of the contemporary patterns. I compared the pieces to the shapes in Cut of men's clothes before I cut it out. I have never used Rocking horse farm patterns. Do you mean the dragoon Uniform pattern? http://rockinghorse-farm.com/ The others are only the waistcoats. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Well One of my dummies is wearing a very pink dress. It is finished but it reminds me that I am going to make it again but then with a long skirt and in very pale blue. I will be wearing the blue gown to the X-mas/New years party from my husbands job. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/Fantasy/Chii/Chii.html And on an other is a black and purple gothic version of a robe a la francaise. Wich I will hopefully sell next weekend on a Gothic and Fantasy fair. http://mystictimes.nl/Verkoop/Verkoop.html Don't have any pictures of the gown yet but I really like it. I am working on a corset from the butteric pattern. I only adjusted the angle of the schoulderstrap on the front. Now it is a bit more like the original pattern in Corsets and crinolines. It promeses to be a very comfortable lightwaight corset. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] why renaissance and not 18th century?
I totally agree. Since I am trieing to set up my own buisines in making fantasy and gothic clothing and weddingdresses I don't have time to do much research. And I quit the SCA and don't have reasons to wear my 16th century stuf aneymore I am now more in to 18th and 19th century clothing. It takes me the same amount of time in making them but less time in researching them. I have a huge library of pictures collekted. And I find more reasons to wear them. Once I wore my red 1860's dress to a X mas party and most people saw it as a very nice evening dress. Last year I wore a 18th century polonaise. And this year I hope to wear a black bustle gown like the red one in Moulin Rouge or in Van Helsing. But I would never wear my 16th century clothing to a modern party. It is also less frustrating. There is so much unknown about the cloting before the 18th century. And somehow I really don't like the 17th century. And the fabrics are cheaper. I can use cotton. I like linnen and silks more but can't afford the silks anymore since the Euro. In a lot of stores here where you can hire clothing and you ask for medieval you get 18th century. I like to make fantasy and gothic versions of 18th and 19th century clothing. And since there are more party's now where people can wear them I hope that they will buy them. Because I haven't seen anyone who makes historical based fantasy and gothic clothing here in the Netherlands. And if they do it is almost alway's Carnaval stuf. Very cheap and over the top. well OK, maybe making them is equally difficult but there is a great deal of difference in _researching_ them. If I want to make an 1860s morning dress I have thousands of fashion plates, contemporary patterns and instructions, photos of real people in real clothes (not an artist's slightly idealised version of what a member of the aristocracy was wearing on a formal occasion) and a few hundred extant garments to copy (obviously a lot of those are in private collections and therefore inaccessible to most members of the general public but you get the point). Snip ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Dressing Santa Claus
Sinterklaas is also dressed in red and white. Maby they looked at medieval clothes to make him look old, like he lives forever. And added white fur since he comes from the north?pole. Kahlara wrote: I don't know how accurate this is, but I had always been told that prior to the Moore/Nast (American) idea of St. Nick's appearance, that many countries/ethnic groups had their own version of St. Nicholas or some similar personality (Baba Yaga in Russia?) and each had their own costume based on how they were portrayed in the stories. If I remember correctly, Sinter Claaus wears a bishop's costume, complete with mitre and staff and rides a white horse. Annette M ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 603
Is Santa Claus not a fantasy version of Sint Nikolaas (Sinterklaas)? otsisto wrote: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1557.htm -Original Message- Thanks for your responses. I think we're getting somewhere, but let me rephrase my question. What I'm really wondering is, if I wanted to make a costume like this one: http://www.adclassix.com/images54cokesanta.jpg and call it historical, where would I go to document it? Who would have worn something like that in real life? Victorian isn't my period, but I don't recall ever seeing anybody dress like that in my brief studies of that century. Is it a Victorian or 20th Century confabulation of some earlier period? Or is it some kind of 19th Century Dutch costume? Does anyone have any pictures of a real person wearing a similar costume, maybe in some other color or without the fur trim? Nast seems to have dressed him in clothes derived from his own period, though possibly a little fantasized, but did the Coca-Cola artist make up the traditional costume or did he derive it from earlier drawings? Tea Rose ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] effigy corset: reeds/bamboo for stiffening
I use them in the Dorothea corset and find it very comfortable. But I agree that it won't work for the tabs. I made a 18th century corset with it. The boning was al around. But it made my waist a lot bigger! And the reeds broke in the tabs. For everyone who is as lucky as me that she doesn't need boning at the sides I would say the Dorothea Corset with reeds in front is the best. Deredere katherine sanders wrote: Hello all I am attempting a reconstruction of the 'effigy' corset and am toying with various types of stiffening. Has anyone attempted to use the kind of 'bamboo' used to make those cheap roll up blinds? I understand they may have some kind of treatment but thought they would be a cheap and relatively stiff type of modern reed boning. Thanks, Katherine ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethian corset
Those are not elisabethan. They are 18th en 19th century corsets. And I think the boning would bee steel wich you can also cut to lengt. The pattern for the 18th century corset is taken from Corsets an Crinolines but they adapted the schoulder straps. The best pattern I used for a 16th century corset is From Patterns of Fashion frm Janet Arnold. You can see pictures somewhere on this page. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/16thcent/16woman/16thcent_dress/16thcent_dress.html Jeanne Willis wrote: I just purchase a pattern for what I think is an elizabethan corset. Butterick B4254. Is anyone familiar with this pattern? My question is what type of boning do I use?. The pattern just say's boning. I assume that it's a plastic boning since you need to cut it to length. Any suggestions as to type of boning or a better elizabethan corset? I'm a plus size hour glass type figure. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Thanks!!! Bustle gown
Hi, Thank you all for helping me making my bustle gown a succes! I am very happy with it. We had our archery competition in an openair museum and they sayd that it would rain. But luckely it didn't! I got al lot of nice comments on my dress and a lot of people who took a picture of me. And I won fhirst price in the lady's archery competition. :-) At the bottom of the page you can see me shooting. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Slightly ot costume fun
Tomorrow we will go to a medieval/fantasy fair. Yeasterday I realized that my cute little bunny backpack didn't have a medieval dress! :-[ So today I searched trough my fabric leftovers and made a cute costume for her. http://www.mystictimes.nl/MBunny/Mb.jpg http://www.mystictimes.nl/MBunny/Mbb.jpg Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
