[h-cost] books available as pdfs
With the kind permission of the list moderator, I am delighted to announce that my books are now available as pdfs and can be purchased directly from me with payment through PayPal. Please see my web page for prices. Also, please feel free to disseminate this announcement to any list or individual that might find it of interest. Thank you. Nancy Spies Arelate Studio www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html snsp...@aol.com Ecclesiastical Pomp and Aristocratic Circumstances: A Thousand Years of Brocaded Tabletwoven Bands Anna Neuper's Modelbuch: Early Sixteenth-Century Patterns for Weaving Brocaded Bands Here Be Wyverns: Hundreds of Patterns Graphed from Medieval Sources Here Be Drolleries: Hundreds More Patterns Graphed from Medieval Sources ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] books on kumihomo braiding
Hello, I'm perusing books on Kumihimo braiding, and wish to ask the braiders on the list: which is/are you favorite? Which do you find to be the most comprehensive? The most practical? As much as I love collecting books, I'd like to start with one that's both a good starting point and still useful once I'm well past starting. I also came across the multiple volumes by Makiko Tada, which appear to be about braiding in general and, eep! are quite pricey. Does anyone own any of these, and is able to give a review? Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Books of Japanese sewing patterns
Not historic, but not mainstream modern American either: http://www.etsy.com/shop/pomadour24 I've had the two Pattern Magic books for awhile, and they are very creative and sophisticated. Many of the other pattern books here are not so fancy, containing many simple tunics-with-yokes and the like. I just ordered several more books that I have not seen yet. There's some neat stuff here (as well as some styles that are overly cute for my taste and a lot of kids' patterns that I have no use for). I don't read or speak Japanese, but I can follow diagrams and numbers in any language. (I do appreciate the seller's descriptions, even though the English is a little shaky; I love the Selfish Hats and the Talkative Hats.) Points: The assumed adult body size in this kind of book is small, and the patterns do not have seam allowances. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:35 PM, sunshine.k.buch...@kp.org wrote: There's also the theatrical costuming books but I don't collect those... so I don't know them off the top of my head... except for: Patterns for Theatrical Costumes by Katherine Stand Holkeboer I would echo the caution of another poster on books of theatrical patterns. Katie is a lovely woman (she retired from the position I now have), but she would never claim that her patterns are anything other than what the title says--theatrical. And please don't use Hill and Bucknell. I wouldn't even use it for theatrical purposes. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
The Cut of Men's Clothes 1600-1900 by Norah Waugh - I think it has something from 1600, but I'm at work and my copies' at home so I can't check... The Cut of Women's Clothes 1600-1930 by Norah Waugh - ditto the above comment Patterns of Fashion 4: The Cut and Construction of Linen Shirts, Smocks, Neckwear, Headwear and Accessories for Men and Women c.1540-1660 There's also the theatrical costuming books but I don't collect those... so I don't know them off the top of my head... except for: Patterns for Theatrical Costumes by Katherine Stand Holkeboer Good luck! -sunny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
Indeed, there are several easily-available theatrical costuming books -- just remember, ease-of-availability doesn't have ANYthing to do with how accurate the patterns are. Hill Bucknell, anyone? chimene ... There's also the theatrical costuming books but I don't collect those... so I don't know them off the top of my head... except for: Patterns for Theatrical Costumes by Katherine Stand Holkeboer Good luck! -sunny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
Hi everyone, I'm teaching a class next month at an SCA event on how to enlarge scaled patterns in books to full size. I was going to include a list of books relevant to SCA costumers (for those who aren't aware the SCA's time period is roughly 600 to 1600) with scaled patterns, so far I've got Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, Period Costume for Stage and Screen (both Medieval to 1500 and 1500-1900), The Tudor Tailor, The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, and Corsets and Crinolines (although it's only got one pre 1600 scaled pattern I'm using it as an example of a patterns that are not on a grid) Is there anything I have missed? Thanks Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
Quoting Elizabeth Walpole ewalp...@grapevine.com.au: Hi everyone, I'm teaching a class next month at an SCA event on how to enlarge scaled patterns in books to full size. I was going to include a list of books relevant to SCA costumers (for those who aren't aware the SCA's time period is roughly 600 to 1600) with scaled patterns, so far I've got Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, Period Costume for Stage and Screen (both Medieval to 1500 and 1500-1900), The Tudor Tailor, The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, and Corsets and Crinolines (although it's only got one pre 1600 scaled pattern I'm using it as an example of a patterns that are not on a grid) Is there anything I have missed? Juan de Alcega? susan/ jerusha - Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with scaled patterns (pre 1600)
On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: Hi everyone, I'm teaching a class next month at an SCA event on how to enlarge scaled patterns in books to full size. I was going to include a list of books relevant to SCA costumers (for those who aren't aware the SCA's time period is roughly 600 to 1600) with scaled patterns, so far I've got Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, Period Costume for Stage and Screen (both Medieval to 1500 and 1500-1900), The Tudor Tailor, The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, and Corsets and Crinolines (although it's only got one pre 1600 scaled pattern I'm using it as an example of a patterns that are not on a grid) Is there anything I have missed? Blanche Payne's History of Costume? Heather ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
Kathleen Gillies wrote: Hi, I think I posted before. I sew regular clothing and stuff and was approached by some new friends to make them some garb for their pirate act/ren fair jobs My question, if you could use 3 books for this (these) eras, which would you buy? The ones I have in my cart are Jane Arnold's Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, as well as her 1660-1860, Janet Arnold is wonderful, but limited. These books only cover selected women's outer garments. The Tudor Tailor by Ninya Mikhaila, Another wonderful book, but with more depth, it covers men and women from the skin out. However, it is only for the Tudor period. It is not Renaissance, and it is not pirate. and Costume Close Up: Clothing Construction and Pattern, 1750-1790 - Linda Baumgarten. Again, a very good book, with a variety of patterns for men and women, from the skin out. Again, neither renaissance or pirate era. Susan Khalje's Bridal Coutoure book. Not familiar with this title, but if you are looking to improve your 'quick and dirty' sewing then a couture manual is a good place to start. I have purchased a package of Margo's patterns which have some wonderful guides in them. I plan on working with them today. These are very popular patterns and can produce some spectacular results, even from beginner sewers. They would be good for renaissance festival wear, and basics like skirts, shirts and shifts can carry over into pirate. There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. You'll find a few pieces in the 2nd Arnold book, but it's not what people think of when you say 'pirate costume'. You might want to look up Norah Waugh's _Cut of Men's Clothing_, and the accompanying book for women. There are scale diagrams of clothing from the 1680-1720 period, and you can put together a reasonable outfit from what is available there if you can size them up, fit them to your customers, and work without instructions. I also recommend the Gentlemen of Adventure website for an introduction into what real pirates wore and how they acquired their clothing. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. Try Reconstructing History www.reconstructinghistory.com . ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books, sewing and pattern advice re Pirates
At 16:23 28/04/2008, you wrote: Kathleen Gillies wrote: Hi, I think I posted before. I sew regular clothing and stuff and was approached by some new friends to make them some garb for their pirate act/ren fair jobs My question, if you could use 3 books for this (these) eras, which would you buy? The ones I have in my cart are Jane Arnold's Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, as well as her 1660-1860, Janet Arnold is wonderful, but limited. These books only cover selected women's outer garments. The Tudor Tailor by Ninya Mikhaila, Another wonderful book, but with more depth, it covers men and women from the skin out. However, it is only for the Tudor period. It is not Renaissance, and it is not pirate. and Costume Close Up: Clothing Construction and Pattern, 1750-1790 - Linda Baumgarten. Again, a very good book, with a variety of patterns for men and women, from the skin out. Again, neither renaissance or pirate era. Susan Khalje's Bridal Coutoure book. Not familiar with this title, but if you are looking to improve your 'quick and dirty' sewing then a couture manual is a good place to start. I have purchased a package of Margo's patterns which have some wonderful guides in them. I plan on working with them today. These are very popular patterns and can produce some spectacular results, even from beginner sewers. They would be good for renaissance festival wear, and basics like skirts, shirts and shifts can carry over into pirate. There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. You'll find a few pieces in the 2nd Arnold book, but it's not what people think of when you say 'pirate costume'. You might want to look up Norah Waugh's _Cut of Men's Clothing_, and the accompanying book for women. There are scale diagrams of clothing from the 1680-1720 period, and you can put together a reasonable outfit from what is available there if you can size them up, fit them to your customers, and work without instructions. I also recommend the Gentlemen of Adventure website for an introduction into what real pirates wore and how they acquired their clothing. I think you mean Gentlemen of Fortune http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/pirate_news.htm which used to be run by a customer of mine - don't know if he's still involved. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. Try Reconstructing History www.reconstructinghistory.com . I honestly have to say I don't recommend those patterns. They look nice, and they cover a neglected period, and I'm sure a lot of work went into them. However, I know of two people who have tried to use those patterns and not had good results. One fit poorly and had confusing directions, and one was poorly researched ( and misleadingly represented on the pattern cover.) and incompletely presented. I'd rather someone use the Simplicity pirate patterns than those, where the directions are more clear from step to step and What-you-see-is-what-you-get on the cover. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books, sewing and pattern advice re Pirates
I think you mean Gentlemen of Fortune http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/pirate_news.htm which used to be run by a customer of mine - don't know if he's still involved. Suzi Yes, thanks Suzi! Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books (tudor/elizabethan era), sewing and pattern advice
My question, if you could use 3 books for this (these) eras, which would you buy? I have to agree with Dawn- Janet Arnold's book has excellent photos, but it is pretty limited in terms of the outfits discussed in it. (that said, I was very pleased to get a copy of it at Christmas- it is an excellent reference book to have around) Tudor Tailor is also a good book (I have it even though I've been concentrating more on Elizabethan clothing), although it's a bit too early for 'pirate' costumes. I'm not an expert by any means, but I do have a couple of friends who have done some research into Elizabethan pirates, and from what I've heard from them (and read myself), pirates didn't really have a particular outfit- what we think of as pirate outfits is a conglomeration of typical clothing of the period with a good dose of fantasy tossed in. If you can afford it (or find a copy to borrow), a good overview book of clothing/items used by sailors in the Elizabethan period is Before the Mast: Life and Death aboard the Mary Rose. It does cover a lot more than just the clothing (it's only a section of it), but it has some good info on some of the clothing found during the excavations. It's also a bit pricey- I picked mine up at Pennsic for $100, though it was well worth the cost for me since most publications deal with the higher classes of society and this of course deals with sailors, most of whom were not wealthy. Also, for patterns, have you looked into www.reconstructinghistory.com? They do carry patterns for the Golden Age of Piracy- I've never looked into those particular patterns, but I own two of her Elizabethan ones (the Shinrone gown and Dungiven outfit), and they were quite accurate when I compared them to the research I had done on my own. Jackie Wyatt Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
I haven't used the pirate ones, but the one I used was clear enough, fit well together and generally worked well. If you have issues about one of the patterns, you might want to tell Kass, I'm sure she'd love to improve them. I agree, though, that the cover gives an impression more than a detailed look of the finished result. They're not line drawings of the final piece... On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. Try Reconstructing History www.reconstructinghistory.com . I honestly have to say I don't recommend those patterns. They look nice, and they cover a neglected period, and I'm sure a lot of work went into them. However, I know of two people who have tried to use those patterns and not had good results. One fit poorly and had confusing directions, and one was poorly researched ( and misleadingly represented on the pattern cover.) and incompletely presented. I'd rather someone use the Simplicity pirate patterns than those, where the directions are more clear from step to step and What-you-see-is-what-you-get on the cover. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books (tudor/elizabethan era), sewing and pattern advice
I think all of those books are worth having (except for The Costume close up - I don't know this book very well, so I cannot tell) and you would sooner or later buy them anyway. The Susan Khalje book is an excellent book of its sort - not speaking of the nice design and pictures, it tells you everything you would want to know when trying to make an evening or wedding dress. Susan Khalje gives many interesting tips and tricks that would otherwise be very time-consuming to figure them out, like how and where exactly attach boning, what layers to use under skirts to make them look as you want to, how to work with lace and how to place it on the curved bodice by hiding the cut places, she gives suggestions as what fabrics to use for what garments - she is very fond of silk organza - for petticoats, underlining, bone channels. This is one of the rare books that show you professional-done garments and reveal all their making secrets. Even if you're an advanced sewer, I still think you'll find many good tips here. Maybe a pure beginner would not be able to appreciate the value of the information given. It has nothing to do with period costume, however, be aware of that, but if you sew modern or fantasy evening/bridal dresses, go for it, it is a very practical book with loads of information. I learned many interesting tips from here. It would be quite funny to see a different way of constructing the same garments - any tips on other books of this sort? Zuzana - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
I haven't used them, but I've seen many pictures of finished garments that were made with the help of these patterns and almost always the result was horrible. Some of the patterns were - let's say - relatively accurate (compared to some other patterns), but the look of the costumes - aahh... Accuracy and good-looking have the same value for me...that is why I sometimes tend to make non-historical adjustments to make the dress look better. I think though it is possible to make good-looking accurate dresses (depends very much on the period-I think the medieval period can be a trouble), but it is something I still have much trouble with. Zuzana Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: There really is no good costume pattern book for the Golden Age of Piracy period, 1680-1720. Try Reconstructing History www.reconstructinghistory.com . I honestly have to say I don't recommend those patterns. They look nice, and they cover a neglected period, and I'm sure a lot of work went into them. However, I know of two people who have tried to use those patterns and not had good results. One fit poorly and had confusing directions, and one was poorly researched ( and misleadingly represented on the pattern cover.) and incompletely presented. I'd rather someone use the Simplicity pirate patterns than those, where the directions are more clear from step to step and What-you-see-is-what-you-get on the cover. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books , sewing and pattern advice
I haven't used the pirate ones, but the one I used was clear enough, fit well together and generally worked well. I had a few problems with the two patterns I've made from Reconstructing History, but I emailed Kass and she was happy to help. I should mention that these patterns (or at least the ones I've done) are not for beginners- in the case of the two Irish patterns I have, they have been drafted using the actual items themselves, which often goes contrary to what we are used to today. For example- I had an 'interesting' time with the Dungiven trews as they are constructed so they wrap around the legs, rather than simply having the seams on the sides like most pairs of pants. They also look quite strange, and some people might think it is poorly fitted, however my own research tells me that these are indeed correctly fitted- the legs are tight, yet you could almost fit a small child in the seat of them due to their construction; amazingly, I've found them to be extremely comfortable and durable, aside from needing to change the waist a bit to accommodate female hips. I have never really looked at the later pieces, so I can't say for sure how good they are, but I do know that Kass is always willing to take suggestions and answer questions about the patterns. I agree, though, that the cover gives an impression more than a detailed look of the finished result. They're not line drawings of the final piece... That is very true, but I've found that to be the case with quite a few 'period' patterns... Jackie Wyatt Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] books and resources
OK you H-Costume folk, if you will take one more reflection on Books/Resources from a recently retired costumer,.. When I began my craft nearly 50 years ago, I soon found that there were few books or resources for period costuming available from my local library or even the college library and bookstore. An early acquisition was a slim how-to volume by Jonston that based all her 2000 years of period design for the making on a man’s PJ pattern and a woman’s 4 piece dress pattern. Size was of no consideration. She even provided approximate yardage for the work-up for S-M-L. I thought this was great. To enlarge the reality aspects, I spent days in the libraries and museums studying the other details that would bring my primitive designs closer to the reality of the occasion at hand. Honing my hand/eye skills using the basic Jonston method, I was soon finding that I could look at a picture and dissect the 2D design into the necessary shapes that would recreate the fashion before me. With an indication of size, I could even do a lot of the cutting free handed using my tape measure and a vision of the shape necessary to get the right draping. Wow. I was on my way… I was given the one volume edition of Davernport, discovered Koehler, Barton, Evans, Laver, the Cunningtons and Gorseline. Non was perfect but each added something of value, good or bad, to my self education toward the craft of costuming About 5 years into my new career, and many shows later, I encountered Arnold for the first time and was bowled over by the concept and scholarship she was doing and this raised the bar somewhat for me toward becoming more scientific in my own scholarship and craft. On first observation, I found that I had solved many of my design problems in the very same way that she had determined by firsthand observation, and this gave me an affirmation and encouragement that I was going about my costume production in somewhat the right manner. Also, about this time, I encountered Ann Hollander’s Seeing Through Clothes that had a profound influence on me concerning the facts of perception and problems of replication when interpreting clothing and costume from the past. Following some of her ideas, I began to look for obscure costume books that might have been on the cutting edge of what was known or perceived as costume in and of its own time period. Thus began my significant collection of Godey’s, Peterson’s, Arthur’s; The Story of Clothes by Agnes Allen, a four volume set of English Costume by Dion Clayton Calthrope, Costumes and Scenery for Amateurs, Constance Darcy Mackay; Costume Fanciful, Historical and Theatrical compiled by Mrs. Aria; Mrs. Earle’s,Wilton’s, Laver…for just a few. Each is valued for the view points given and taken of how they understood what Historical costuming meant for their own time. In the early 1990s, my husband introduced me to the wonderful new world of H-costume. For the very first time I felt connected to a host of new friends who were doing for joy or livelihood what I was doing…who knew what the problems were and were willing to share solutions. It is hard to imagine interpreting the styles and clothing of the past without them. Eons later, we have the wonderful Library that Penny is developing, Robin’s Medieval studies, Fran’s de-ciphers of 19th C pattern making, the various Shep reprints. Melanie’s patterns, Bjarne’s wonderful and inspiring embroideries, Lorena’s patterns and embroideries; pictoral work of Sally Keene. The compilations and other resource material by Boumgarten Bissonet, Drea and such…all a very rich heritage for the present and for years to come. Maybe even some of this work will strike those readers and do-ers of costume craft and history as outdated or uninformed but for the present, this is what we have. Rejoice! Kathleen Mitchell___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books and resources
Kathleen - sounds like you've had quite an amazing journey! I'm impressed! I love going to the period magazines also and like to compare them to photographs of the matching timeframe to see how women interpreted the fashion plates into real outfits. Plus viewing websites that have some actual garments. Putting all this information together and coming up with an outfit for myself is the fun part. There's lots of information out there, we just have to know where to find it! Shirley --- On Mon, 4/28/08, R Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: R Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] books and resources To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 2:10 PM OK you H-Costume folk, if you will take one more reflection on Books/Resources from a recently retired costumer,.. When I began my craft nearly 50 years ago, I soon found that there were few books or resources for period costuming available from my local library or even the college library and bookstore. An early acquisition was a slim how-to volume by Jonston that based all her 2000 years of period design for the making on a man’s PJ pattern and a woman’s 4 piece dress pattern. Size was of no consideration. She even provided approximate yardage for the work-up for S-M-L. I thought this was great. To enlarge the reality aspects, I spent days in the libraries and museums studying the other details that would bring my primitive designs closer to the reality of the occasion at hand. Honing my hand/eye skills using the basic Jonston method, I was soon finding that I could look at a picture and dissect the 2D design into the necessary shapes that would recreate the fashion before me. With an indication of size, I could even do a lot of the cutting free handed using my tape measure and a vision of the shape necessary to get the right draping. Wow. I was on my way… I was given the one volume edition of Davernport, discovered Koehler, Barton, Evans, Laver, the Cunningtons and Gorseline. Non was perfect but each added something of value, good or bad, to my self education toward the craft of costuming About 5 years into my new career, and many shows later, I encountered Arnold for the first time and was bowled over by the concept and scholarship she was doing and this raised the bar somewhat for me toward becoming more scientific in my own scholarship and craft. On first observation, I found that I had solved many of my design problems in the very same way that she had determined by firsthand observation, and this gave me an affirmation and encouragement that I was going about my costume production in somewhat the right manner. Also, about this time, I encountered Ann Hollander’s Seeing Through Clothes that had a profound influence on me concerning the facts of perception and problems of replication when interpreting clothing and costume from the past. Following some of her ideas, I began to look for obscure costume books that might have been on the cutting edge of what was known or perceived as costume in and of its own time period. Thus began my significant collection of Godey’s, Peterson’s, Arthur’s; The Story of Clothes by Agnes Allen, a four volume set of English Costume by Dion Clayton Calthrope, Costumes and Scenery for Amateurs, Constance Darcy Mackay; Costume Fanciful, Historical and Theatrical compiled by Mrs. Aria; Mrs. Earle’s,Wilton’s, Laver…for just a few. Each is valued for the view points given and taken of how they understood what Historical costuming meant for their own time. In the early 1990s, my husband introduced me to the wonderful new world of H-costume. For the very first time I felt connected to a host of new friends who were doing for joy or livelihood what I was doing…who knew what the problems were and were willing to share solutions. It is hard to imagine interpreting the styles and clothing of the past without them. Eons later, we have the wonderful Library that Penny is developing, Robin’s Medieval studies, Fran’s de-ciphers of 19th C pattern making, the various Shep reprints. Melanie’s patterns, Bjarne’s wonderful and inspiring embroideries, Lorena’s patterns and embroideries; pictoral work of Sally Keene. The compilations and other resource material by Boumgarten Bissonet, Drea and such…all a very rich heritage for the present and for years to come. Maybe even some of this work will strike those readers and do-ers of costume craft and history as outdated or uninformed but for the present, this is what we have. Rejoice! Kathleen Mitchell___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt
Re: [h-cost] books (tudor/elizabethan era), sewing and pattern advice
I must admit that I love all the books you have mentioned with the addition of A Tailor's Manuel from 1589 by Juan Alcega, translation by Ruth Bean. I did manage to gather up all the rest of the books available from David Brown books and they are spoken for or sold. However, I would be surprised if there aren't some available from SCA booksellers (I'm not one, I just love this particular book and want people to have it). There might also be perfect ones available from Ruth Bean (here on H-Costume) in England. Once I figured out what in the world was going on with these original patterns, it's a book that I'd run into the flames to rescue along with Queen Elizabeth's Closet and Dress in the Court of Henry VIII. I'd probably burn to death because I'd keep trying to cram in one more book! Seriously, if you can get a copy of Alcega, as it's known in the SCA at least, I highly recommend it. The clothing I've made from it showed that the patterns are actually to scale, not just drawings of what the pattern piece should look like. Not to put the Tudor Tailor down, but I think I'd prefer the Alcega to it just because of the number of patterns. Then again, these are Spanish clothes of the middle class; however Spain was a lot like the Paris of its time as far as clothing was concerned in the 16th century. If you do go into things as a Pro. Be prepared to do a lot of figuring and planning first. One of the most common errors people make is pricing their time too cheaply. Materials can be costly. Trim can be costly (I have gowns where the trim cost more than the fabric and other items combined!), but you must value your time in a professional manner. You also have to treat it as a business. Business owners have friends, but they can't afford to sell something at cost very often. It can be hard to tell your best friend that the wedding dress she has drooled over all her life is going to cost her XXX amount if you do it. As an Amateur I can afford to spend time embroidering, pearling and generally making something gorgeous for a friend, but I have a real job that supports my hobby :-) Wanda My question, if you could use 3 books for this (these) eras, which would you buy? The ones I have in my cart are Jane Arnold's Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620, as well as her 1660-1860, Jean Hunnisett's _Period Costume for Stage and Screen, Patterns for Women's dress 1500-1800, The Tudor Tailor by Ninya Mikhaila, and Costume Close Up: Clothing Construction and Pattern, 1750-1790 - Linda Baumgarten. I also have a book called Fine Machine Sewing and Susan Khalje's Bridal Coutoure book. Do you have any other suggestions? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Books: building a reference collection
I have been loading a catalog of our reference collection online at www.librarything.com (user Castlegrounds) You can see our textiles books at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds and the costume books at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Currently, I have most of my textile and costume books entered (still some to go on embroidery and weaving), but I still have lots of books in other categories yet to enter. As I am actively adding to the collection, I would appreciate any suggestions of good costume and textile books (any language, SCA time period: 500-1600AD) that I have overlooked. Thank you, Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books: building a reference collection
Hi Beth and Happy New Year! Thanks so much for sharing this. This is going to be an excellent cross-reference tool for me. All the Best, Chris R. Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been loading a catalog of our reference collection online at www.librarything.com (user Castlegrounds) You can see our textiles books at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds and the costume books at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Currently, I have most of my textile and costume books entered (still some to go on embroidery and weaving), but I still have lots of books in other categories yet to enter. As I am actively adding to the collection, I would appreciate any suggestions of good costume and textile books (any language, SCA time period: 500-1600AD) that I have overlooked. Thank you, Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books: building a reference collection
You are most welcome Chris. If you come across a good reference that is not listed, please post to the list or me personally. Thanks, Beth At 04:47 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:07:58 -0800 (PST) From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Beth and Happy New Year! Thanks so much for sharing this. This is going to be an excellent cross-reference tool for me. All the Best, Chris R. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I teach a costume/fashion class and am wondering if there are any costume history books that cover the 1960s up to 2000. All mine stop around 1975. Has anyone written a more current one? And on a similar note ... What's your favorite text for pre-20th century clothing? susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books on recent costume history
Try Fairchild Publishers. They do Women's Wear Daily. They just published 20th Century Dress in the United States by Jane Farrell-Beck and Jean Parsons ISBN: 978-1-56367-415-0. If you are getting books for the class, you can usually get a copy for yourself to check before placing the order. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:11 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Books on recent costume history I teach a costume/fashion class and am wondering if there are any costume history books that cover the 1960s up to 2000. All mine stop around 1975. Has anyone written a more current one? Sylvia Rognstad Divinity Designs and Emeralds http://www.d-e-designs.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume published 20th Century Dress in the United States ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
At 03:19 30/03/2007, you wrote: Anyone know what books have good reproductions of the following images: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 http://www.allposters.com/-sp/A-Fete-at-Bermondsey-circa-1570-Posters_i13478 95_.htm I was at the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and they sell a postcard of the Holbein painting. I know that there is also a postcard of the Fete at Bermondsey, and possibly a poster, but I forget which stately home owns it. They are always happy to post stuff, at least in my experience. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
At 03:44 30/03/2007, you wrote: At 07:19 PM 3/29/2007, you wrote: Anyone know what books have good reproductions of the following images: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg I don't think that this was ever done in color. It's a sketch. This is in colour - she has an orangey red petticoat/underskirt, a grey dress, and a pale yellow sash. It's in pen and ink with watercolour washes. Suzi A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 http://www.allposters.com/-sp/A-Fete-at-Bermondsey-circa-1570-Posters_i13478 95_.htm Really nice posters, but pricey. I've not seen any large reproductions in books, just bits of it. The smallest size poster is still larger than I have seen in any book. When the entire picture is shown, it's very small (maybe 1/2 page). I wish someone would do a calendar with it. Thanks, Sg Good luck on your searching. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 The largest version of this that I have seen in a book is (perhaps necessarily) a detail and does not show the whole thing. It cuts off the last three people standing on the left and everyone past the first two girls with the big round cakes on the right. It's in The Horizon Book of the Elizabethan World by Lacey Baldwin Smith (New York: American Heritage Publishing Co., 1967), p. 146. The image is about a foot square. The original painting is at Hatfield House, for those who'd like to write the Marquess of Salisbury to inquire. If anyone finds a cheaper source for posters, please let me know! This is a fantastic image. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
I thought it was in this book. I thumbed through about 5 times and never managed to find it...thanks for the page number! Sg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:35 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them. A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 The largest version of this that I have seen in a book is (perhaps necessarily) a detail and does not show the whole thing. It cuts off the last three people standing on the left and everyone past the first two girls with the big round cakes on the right. It's in The Horizon Book of the Elizabethan World by Lacey Baldwin Smith (New York: American Heritage Publishing Co., 1967), p. 146. The image is about a foot square. The original painting is at Hatfield House, for those who'd like to write the Marquess of Salisbury to inquire. If anyone finds a cheaper source for posters, please let me know! This is a fantastic image. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
Aha! I will write the museum. Those postcards are fabulous. I got one of Elizabeth Buxton, scanned it at high resolution, and was able to see lots of details. Thanks! Sg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:43 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them. At 03:19 30/03/2007, you wrote: Anyone know what books have good reproductions of the following images: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 http://www.allposters.com/-sp/A-Fete-at-Bermondsey-circa-1570-Posters_i1347 8 95_.htm I was at the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and they sell a postcard of the Holbein painting. I know that there is also a postcard of the Fete at Bermondsey, and possibly a poster, but I forget which stately home owns it. They are always happy to post stuff, at least in my experience. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 Saragrace, I don't remember off the top of my head what book I scanned these from, but here's my collection of Bermondsey images . The first 4 images are 2Megabytes or better -- one is 3.6, I think. The quality of the image wasn't very good -- the printing screen was overly visible. http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel1.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel2.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel3.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel4.jpg Hope this helps! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
My goodness - this helps a lot! Thank you! I am contacting the Bridgeman Art Library who has them in High resolution...who knows what they will cost. Thank you so much for sharing... Sg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:38 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them. WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 Saragrace, I don't remember off the top of my head what book I scanned these from, but here's my collection of Bermondsey images . The first 4 images are 2Megabytes or better -- one is 3.6, I think. The quality of the image wasn't very good -- the printing screen was overly visible. http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel1.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel2.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel3.jpg http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/hoefnagel4.jpg Hope this helps! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
Quoting WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My goodness - this helps a lot! Thank you! I am contacting the Bridgeman Art Library who has them in High resolution...who knows what they will cost. Thank you so much for sharing... Oh, yeah -- let us know what you find out! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
Quoting WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My goodness - this helps a lot! Thank you! I am contacting the Bridgeman Art Library who has them in High resolution...who knows what they will cost. Thank you so much for sharing... Sure thing. I view it sorts of like my collection of Genealogy Photos -- I can enjoy them, but it's ever so much fun to spread the joy around! :-) susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
At 07:19 PM 3/29/2007, you wrote: Anyone know what books have good reproductions of the following images: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg I don't think that this was ever done in color. It's a sketch. A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 http://www.allposters.com/-sp/A-Fete-at-Bermondsey-circa-1570-Posters_i13478 95_.htm Really nice posters, but pricey. I've not seen any large reproductions in books, just bits of it. The smallest size poster is still larger than I have seen in any book. When the entire picture is shown, it's very small (maybe 1/2 page). I wish someone would do a calendar with it. Thanks, Sg Good luck on your searching. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
The first I've only found in color here: Tate Britain's Holbein in England exhibit, A Young Englishwoman http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/holbein/rooms/room6.htm There is a book that goes with the exhibit Holbein in England (Paperback) by Susan Foister (Author) ISBN-10: 1854376454 I do not know if that would have a color version. Perhaps Suzi knows, as I think she has a copy of this book from the exhibit. As to the second, I've only found small versions in my books, and only pricey posters $50+US that show it at a decent size. I had to do a 200% scan of the one I have online, and I think the page I scanned it from was about a half a page, and I don't remember which book I got it from. Kimiko WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and white) http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg A Fete at Bermondsey, Jorges Hoefnagle, 1575 - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
Kimiko Small wrote: The first I've only found in color here: Tate Britain's Holbein in England exhibit, A Young Englishwoman http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/holbein/rooms/room6.htm There is a book that goes with the exhibit Holbein in England (Paperback) by Susan Foister (Author) ISBN-10: 1854376454 I do not know if that would have a color version. Perhaps Suzi knows, as I think she has a copy of this book from the exhibit. The book does have a color version, a little larger than life size (the original is 16x9.2 cm). I'm looking at it now. The image on the Tate website is very good, too. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] books
One that I'm REALLY eager to get is the one on the Oseberg textiles. Supposedly it's at the printers and due out sometime in May according to (someone else's reading of) this article: http://www.aftenposten.no/fakta/innsikt/article1248828.ece Unfortunately, I don't read Norwegian and the translation engines are a bit limited., so I'm taking their word for it. Despite extensive searches on the Internet, I cannot find an ISBN or even a title of it though..and I get no replies to emails to the Viking Ship Museum. Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
Fred Struthers of R. L. Shep gets in a lot of foreign publications and is usually interested in hearing about new ones of interest to costumers. In other words, if he thinks some other customers will want it, in addition to you, he may well stock it. Fred's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Beth and Bob Matney wrote: One that I'm REALLY eager to get is the one on the Oseberg textiles. Supposedly it's at the printers and due out sometime in May according to ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
Hi, I could perhaps try to find the ISBN number for you, i could search for it in an online library. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [h-cost] books One that I'm REALLY eager to get is the one on the Oseberg textiles. Supposedly it's at the printers and due out sometime in May according to (someone else's reading of) this article: http://www.aftenposten.no/fakta/innsikt/article1248828.ece Unfortunately, I don't read Norwegian and the translation engines are a bit limited., so I'm taking their word for it. Despite extensive searches on the Internet, I cannot find an ISBN or even a title of it though..and I get no replies to emails to the Viking Ship Museum. Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thanks Fran. I'll give them a try. Beth Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:10:00 -0800 Fred Struthers of R. L. Shep gets in a lot of foreign publications and is usually interested in hearing about new ones of interest to costumers. In other words, if he thinks some other customers will want it, in addition to you, he may well stock it. Fred's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fran Lavolta Press ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thanks, Bjarne. I would really appreciate any information that you could find on this book! As the book is not out yet, I tried to find a forthcoming publications for Univ. of Oslo, but was not successful. Beth Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:29:22 +0100 From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I could perhaps try to find the ISBN number for you, i could search for it in an online library. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
At 05:05 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. snip Anyone else doing this? Hi Beth, I've been slowly cataloging my books on a software called Book Collector. http://www.collectorz.com/book/ I have found the program to be very helpful, very detailed, and what I need for me. I can even transfer the data to my Palm, which is helpful when I am out shopping. I will be uploading a book review page to my personal web site, that takes it's info from the same program. Each their own I guess... it's just finding the time to enter every book I own, so I try for a little at a time. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Yeh, I promised myself for years too, then a friend told me about librarything. So I'm slowly going through my library and writing the ISBN numbers on a pad for 20 -30 books at a time, shelf by shelf. With all the resources that Librarything can access, it's really not too bad. The books without ISBN do take a little bit longer, but I still rarely have to enter all the info. Beth Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:24:29 -0800 From: Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I posted the site long time ago but still have most of my books in storage. Need a lifetime membership too! I would love to get more info on books that should be in my library. I bought 30 weaving books for different looms and styles so I think I have enough. I need to go thru my books and get rid of some I'm not very happy with. Bought 6 new book cases with a 5 yr. guarantee at a great price but still need more. Heard that books against an outside wall are great insulation, just have to convince my husband I am saving him money in the long run. Brin Kendall Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:05 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. You can see the Costume books (103 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Textiles (113 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds Archaeology (108 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=archaeologyview=Castlegrounds I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Beth Matney Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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The point is that some of us who buy way more books than we should, have so many different subjects that a catalog (or a well organized library)is pretty much necessary. I had all of my books except costume and cooking in one room before I moved. Wall to wall, floor to ceiling bookshelves built by me and filled with books in different catagories. In this place, there isn't room to build a library and I must get my books out of boxes. I didn't know about these organizers before, but am sure as heck going to get one of them now. I can catalog as I unpack and some day I might be organized (yeah, right). Thanks for the info!! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:46:44 + To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] books At 13:33 25/02/2006, you wrote: Yeh, I promised myself for years too, then a friend told me about librarything. So I'm slowly going through my library and writing the ISBN numbers on a pad for 20 -30 books at a time, shelf by shelf. With all the resources that Librarything can access, it's really not too bad. The books without ISBN do take a little bit longer, but I still rarely have to enter all the info. Beth Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:24:29 -0800 From: Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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It comes in handy if you want to share your books with a friend they can just browse through them on this site. Might help me remember which books I have loaned out too. I also have to start worrying about extra insurance for my books. I should start looking up the current prices on some of them to get an idea of the value of my collection. It will be hard to figure out the value of some of the out of print books. That is a great plan to do 20 to 30 at a time, Brin Kendall Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 13:33 25/02/2006, you wrote: Yeh, I promised myself for years too, then a friend told me about librarything. So I'm slowly going through my library and writing the ISBN numbers on a pad for 20 -30 books at a time, shelf by shelf. With all the resources that Librarything can access, it's really not too bad. The books without ISBN do take a little bit longer, but I still rarely have to enter all the info. Beth Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:24:29 -0800 From: Joan Jurancich Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi - Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 15:36 25/02/2006, you wrote: I do it for three reasons: 1) I've got so many (thousands), that I found I was getting some duplicates by accident. 2) I need an inventory for insurance purposes. 3) to find others with similar interests. I have thousands of books too, at least 400 of which are costume related. I don't need an insurance inventory, fortunately! I already know lots of people with similar interests, and don't have time to keep up with them all. With the tags, it also helps with organization... so I can find a particular book again! Most systems were just too cumbersome and slow.. you have to enter ALL the info by hand.. that I kept putting it off. Maybe I'm lucky? I already file in types/kinds, like factual reference/sci fi.classics/ historical fiction etc., and authors and dates, and my costume related books are in my work room, so I never have trouble finding a book, unless I haven't put it back where it belongs. Beth Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I've only been on it 2 or 3 days and have filled my limit of 200 books. So if someone has say 8,000 books (as some people up there do!!) I'd hate to try and keep track of them in a notebook. I want to know where they are I want to know what I have. I'm hoping they add a lent feature and that sort of thing. I can also print out the list of what's on my shelves and I can put that into a binder and put it on my shelves. I have nearly 1,000 books (and I add to it all the time) and this is one way of keeping them together. As for time, I do the ISBNs between answering e-mails from all the costuming lists or at night. B~ Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Sounds like an interesting program as I hate buying the same book twice. Hard to do? not really as often an author will put out a book under a different name with other publishers. Edith Brin Kendall Kimiko Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:05 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. Anyone else doing this? Hi Beth, I've been slowly cataloging my books on a software called Book Collector. http://www.collectorz.com/book/ I have found the program to be very helpful, very detailed, and what I need for me. I can even transfer the data to my Palm, which is helpful when I am out shopping. I will be uploading a book review page to my personal web site, that takes it's info from the same program. Each their own I guess... it's just finding the time to enter every book I own, so I try for a little at a time. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I'd recommend some sort of list, even if not strictly a catalogue. A while back we had some pipes leak and the ceiling come down - right on top of one of NIge's most expesive shelves of books. Fortunately, the insurers paid out when we sent them three independant quotes that more or les tallied regarding the value - but if we hadn't already listed tem, it may have been tough just to remember what had turned to a big pile of sooty pile of mush, (the chimney then fell in on itself, scattering blackness everywhere). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have thousands of books too, at least 400 of which are costume related. I also have thousands, and over 1,000 costume related. I don't need an insurance inventory, fortunately! Well, everybody might need to claim insurance some day. My in-laws' house burned down in the firestorm in the East Bay some years ago, and it turned out their policy required listing every single item they wanted to claim, down to the skillets and the towels--along with current values. I'm well aware how much work that is, because I did most of it. And they had no collector instincts whatever--that house was like something out of a magazine, it looked like no one even lived in it. (Fortunately, they used the insurance money to build an even fancier house that looks like no one lives in it.) However, the quick way to document your book collection--assuming you have it on shelves or otherwise visible--is to pan a video camera over it. That way you can at least prove to the insurance company that you did own these books. If your house burns down or whatever, then you can look up the current values on the net. I already know lots of people with similar interests, and don't have time to keep up with them all. True, but it's heartwarming to see a lot of people get together because they love books. With the tags, it also helps with organization... so I can find a particular book again! Most systems were just too cumbersome and slow.. you have to enter ALL the info by hand.. that I kept putting it off. The Librarything system is easy, because you can just click on something to add it. However, I don't want any of my data stored on someone else's machine, and therefore be dependent on their backup system, site availability, continued existence, etc. We have Microsoft Access, and it would be easy to build a little cataloging application for it. (My husband is a programmer, and he built the databases for our publishing business on access.) We just have not gotten around to it. Entering all this stuff in any system is so much work, when there is so much else to do. But it would keep me from buying duplicates of books I already have, which I do on occasion. Maybe I'm lucky? I already file in types/kinds, like factual reference/sci fi.classics/ historical fiction etc., and authors and dates, and my costume related books are in my work room, so I never have trouble finding a book, unless I haven't put it back where it belongs. Those were the days, when I had enough shelf space for that. Now about half my books are in stacks all over the floors in every room. They're sort of categorized, but no way can I keep them all alphabetized by author name and so on. Luckily I'm good at remembering titles, author names, and approximately where things are. As for lending out books, I learned long ago that lending someone something is tatamount to kissing it goodbye. I don't bring people in for viewings either--not since that time years ago when someone took the opportunity to steal some of my books and then brag to other people about how clever she was to have done it. Smuggled them out under a long cape--it's not like I strip search guests before they leave. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:57:19 Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Librarything system is easy, because you can just click on something to add it. However, I don't want any of my data stored on someone else's machine, and therefore be dependent on their backup system, site availability, continued existence, etc. No, I don't trust other's backup systems either. librarything has a download feature to comma delimited list that I can import into a spreadsheet or MS Access on my computer.. or re-upload if something happens on the host. Plus, I could printout a hardcopy. I'll do that when I get caught up! It will be awhile. I download after every significant update to the catalogue, so I have a backup. Beth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 05:46 AM 2/25/2006, you wrote: Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi For me, it helps to be able to call them up on the computer, or search for something I know is on a bookshelf in the other room, or when I am not sure which book I have, and which book I want, because I have a swiss-cheese memory on things. I also plan on putting a list of my favorite books, with short personal reviews, on my web site for others to view. Many times on this list and on others, someone will ask something and instead of re-writing the same info (title, author, isbn, etc.) over and over, I can just highlight the info, copy, paste, and send the e-mail. It also helps for insurance purposes. If I can prove I owned a book after a fire, the book costs can be covered. Considering how many books I own and some are expensive to replace, that would be very helpful for me. And doing this on a computer also beats the card catalog system I once used for my general paperbacks, so that just means I can be anal-retentive about some things... I was an accountant for a reason. ;-) Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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You can make your lists private so that no one else can read them. And while Steele may be on the best sellers list its Sci-fi that is what people read for the most part. I'm sure I'll hear howls over that. But there was an article not long ago about sc-fi held the top rank closely followed by romances. And I don't exactly call HP sci-fi. Those books fall into the fantasy category with books like Lord of the Rings and the the Mists of Avalon books. Sci Fi are considered things like Dune and the like. If you click the Zeitetgeist (sic) link on the page it will take you to all sorts of neat rankings. B~ On 2/25/06, Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very useful; I think it's a well-thought-out site. However, although I see a point in cataloging my library, I see no point to making the catalog public. But it's really great to see a community of serious book lovers--two of whom own over 8,000 books. Why is there such a heavy preponderance of fantasy titles among the most owned? I know Harry Potter is popular, but what about bestselling authors like Danielle Steele? Do you know if the site designer first announced the site on fantasy lists and thus gained an early preponderance of fantasy readers? Fran Lavolta Press ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Suzi Clarke wrote: At 13:33 25/02/2006, you wrote: Yeh, I promised myself for years too, then a friend told me about librarything. So I'm slowly going through my library and writing the ISBN numbers on a pad for 20 -30 books at a time, shelf by shelf. With all the resources that Librarything can access, it's really not too bad. The books without ISBN do take a little bit longer, but I still rarely have to enter all the info. Beth Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:24:29 -0800 From: Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) Well, I don't know about anyone else, but for me, after the _second_ time I bought a second copy of a $100 book because I'd forgotten that I already owned it, I started carrying my book list file around on my Palm Pilot. I simply can't remember 4000 books individually, and the matter becomes more complicated when I know I've had a particular book in my hands but can't remember if it was a library copy, a copy in a bookstore that I decided I couldn't buy at the time, or a copy on my own shelves. I use an ordinary Excel spreadsheet -- I'd been entering books into it for years already when I got the software to put it on my Palm. One of the motivations for setting up the electronic file (other than simply having a catalog for documentary purposes, e.g., in case of loss) was having a convenient file for pulling citations from when creating bibliographies. At the time, I was doing SCA heraldic commentary and was throwing together an extensive list of citations for my commentary letters every month. Different parts of the library got entered into the file at different times, based on usage. It helped that around the time I was getting serious about it, I had a move that was leisurely and stress-free enough that I could catalog the books as I packed them. There are still a few parts of my library that haven't been catalogued (especially the sheet music) and when I do a major bookshelf reorganization this year I should probably do a formal shelf-check as well. As someone else noted, it's also a convenient place to keep track of who you've lent books out to and whether they've come back. Heather -- Heather Rose Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heatherrosejones.com LJ:hrj ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 8:27 PM -0500 2/24/06, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: On Friday 24 February 2006 8:05 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. Using what for time? When I retire, maybe. I'm also a LibraryThing fan, though I did maybe two batches of books a while ago and haven't gotten back to it. The great thing about it is that it DOESN'T take much time because you don't have to enter ALL the information on 99% of the books. It will look them up for you! All I've needed to type in is the titles, and it pulls them right up. I do plan to back up the list on my own computer once it bears some resemblance to my actual library -- I haven't been systematic about it. It sounds like it will be in a format that I'll be able to import into FileMaker (or MS Access) so I'll have my own database. Since I hate having to look up and type ALL the information about a book every @#$%! time I cite it, this site is _wonderful_. -- OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Since I hate having to look up and type ALL the information about a book every @#$%! time I cite it, this site is _wonderful_. -- OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California AHH, correct usage- a sight for sore eyes!! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Why is there such a heavy preponderance of fantasy titles among the most owned? I know Harry Potter is popular, but what about bestselling authors like Danielle Steele? Do you know if the site designer first announced the site on fantasy lists and thus gained an early preponderance of fantasy readers? Fran Lavolta Press I think--and I'm just speculating here--that perhaps SCA-Fi fantasy fiction readers tend to hang onto their books longer. I am not a romance reader--to me, IF I read a Danielle Steele book, it would be a once-only type of book. (And I'd be pretty desperate for reading material.)Whereas, Silverlock, for instance, I can read over and over--and you have to re-read all the Harry Potter books to prepare for the release of the new one, so it makes sense to collect them...And I'd clobber anyone who suggested I get rid of Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd. To make yet another sweeping generalization, the vast majority of the people I know who are passionate about books tend to be costumers and Scadians, and those people tend to lean more toward that end of the fiction-reading spectrum. My non-SCA friends tend to wonder why on earth anyone would have so many books. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. You can see the Costume books (103 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Textiles (113 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds Archaeology (108 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=archaeologyview=Castlegrounds I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Friday 24 February 2006 8:05 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. [snipping URLs] I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Using what for time? When I retire, maybe. Ooooh, I made the mistake of looking at your list. You have NESATs 2 and 4. Envy, drool! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 05:05 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. You can see the Costume books (103 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Textiles (113 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds Archaeology (108 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=archaeologyview=Castlegrounds I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Beth Matney Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have a librarything account (Jaie) I've only so far gotten my paperbacks up there but so far so good. I'm going to get a paid account here pretty soon. Bice On 2/24/06, Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 February 2006 8:05 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. [snipping URLs] I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Using what for time? When I retire, maybe. Ooooh, I made the mistake of looking at your list. You have NESATs 2 and 4. Envy, drool! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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- Original Message - From: michael tartaglio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. Pg 228 of Geoff Egan and Hazel Forsyth's article Wound Wire and Silver Gilt in Oxbow Monograph #98 shows the wire from the headdress that I believe you are talking about. The full title of the book is The Age of Transition; The archaeology of English culture 1400-1600 Hope this helps, Mike T. This looks similar to a book I've been wanting: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/190199239X/104-1649257-0753564?v=glancen=283155s=booksv=glance or http://snipurl.com/kav3 Can anyone compare the two, taking into account that the latter from amazon is 1/3 the price of the former? =} The former has lots of very very interesting articles that I just don't really care too much about at the moment, judging from the contents list here: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/18729//Location/DBBC Instead, I'm interested in the actual physical finds. And can anyone suggest books you'd consider must-haves for nitty-gritty artifact type stuff c1485-1530, particularly for continental Europe? -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, E House wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/190199239X/104-1649257-0753564?v=glancen=283155s=booksv=glance or http://snipurl.com/kav3 Can anyone compare the two, taking into account that the latter from amazon is 1/3 the price of the former? Amazon is wrong -- the newer one has yet to be released. My contact at the publisher told me today that with luck we may yet see it before the end of the year. See another description here: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/44480 --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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- Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amazon is wrong -- the newer one has yet to be released. My contact at the publisher told me today that with luck we may yet see it before the end of the year. See another description here: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/44480 Aah. I'd been wondering why I hadn't heard more about it! Thanks for the info. I gus I can wait a month or two... -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
