RE: [H] Dea CPU?

[Neil Atwood]

Actually, I think you could be right joe...

Tracking down a new mobo to text now...

Thanks

Neil Atwood
Sydney, Oz

-Original Message-
From: joeuser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 3 June 2005 1:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Dea CPU?

Just because the board LED lights; doesn't mean the board is 
functioning. I'd start with that.

Neil Atwood wrote:

> No overclocking here, and cooling is good - and I agree, a dead CPU under
> normal conditions is pretty rare.
> 
> The video card is the only card in the system, and I've elimiated that as
> the problem.
> I've attempted booting with all drives - HDD and optical - disconnected.
> No change.
> I don't have any appropriate RAM modules on hand, so that is a problem.
> Smae with PSU. But I can see the value in eliminating those as the
> problem...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Neil A.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Unless you are overclocking, or have been running it without cooling, I
> 
> would say the CPU is the last thing I would suspect. Remove everything
> except video card, CPU, one stick of RAM and see if it will POST. If it
> does start adding things back, one at a time. If it won't post, swap out
> the RAM with known working RAM, then the video card with any old PCI
> card that you know is good. Then the power supply, then I would suspect
> the motherboard, before the CPU. Bad CPUs that aren't made bad from
> abuse, are extremely rare.
> 
>>
>>At 07:13 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi List,
>>>
>>>My main desktop machine failed to start up this morning.
>>>
>>>System is a P4 3.2Ghz - about 15 months old, built by me.
>>>
>>>Symptoms:
>>>Mobo appears to power up OK. (a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP) - Power LED on board
>>>is
>>>lit, RAM LED is lit, IDE devices go through their normal initialisation.
> 
> All fans are spinning, heatsinks are clear and clean
> 
>>>But no video, no error beeps, nothing! Screens report 'no videi signal'
>>>
>>>Swapped out video card - no change.
>>>
>>>Reseated RAM, no change.
>>>
>>>My curent guess is dead CPU... but is there anything else obvious I
>>>should
>>>be checking before I RA the CPU?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Neil A.
>>>Sydney Oz.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [H] Dea CPU?

[joeuser]

Just because the board LED lights; doesn't mean the board is 
functioning. I'd start with that.


Neil Atwood wrote:


No overclocking here, and cooling is good - and I agree, a dead CPU under
normal conditions is pretty rare.

The video card is the only card in the system, and I've elimiated that as
the problem.
I've attempted booting with all drives - HDD and optical - disconnected.
No change.
I don't have any appropriate RAM modules on hand, so that is a problem.
Smae with PSU. But I can see the value in eliminating those as the
problem...

Thanks

Neil A.





Unless you are overclocking, or have been running it without cooling, I


would say the CPU is the last thing I would suspect. Remove everything
except video card, CPU, one stick of RAM and see if it will POST. If it
does start adding things back, one at a time. If it won't post, swap out
the RAM with known working RAM, then the video card with any old PCI
card that you know is good. Then the power supply, then I would suspect
the motherboard, before the CPU. Bad CPUs that aren't made bad from
abuse, are extremely rare.



At 07:13 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote:


Hi List,

My main desktop machine failed to start up this morning.

System is a P4 3.2Ghz - about 15 months old, built by me.

Symptoms:
Mobo appears to power up OK. (a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP) - Power LED on board
is
lit, RAM LED is lit, IDE devices go through their normal initialisation.


All fans are spinning, heatsinks are clear and clean


But no video, no error beeps, nothing! Screens report 'no videi signal'

Swapped out video card - no change.

Reseated RAM, no change.

My curent guess is dead CPU... but is there anything else obvious I
should
be checking before I RA the CPU?

Thanks

Neil A.
Sydney Oz.









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Re: [H] Dea CPU?

[Neil Atwood]

No overclocking here, and cooling is good - and I agree, a dead CPU under
normal conditions is pretty rare.

The video card is the only card in the system, and I've elimiated that as
the problem.
I've attempted booting with all drives - HDD and optical - disconnected.
No change.
I don't have any appropriate RAM modules on hand, so that is a problem.
Smae with PSU. But I can see the value in eliminating those as the
problem...

Thanks

Neil A.



> Unless you are overclocking, or have been running it without cooling, I
would say the CPU is the last thing I would suspect. Remove everything
except video card, CPU, one stick of RAM and see if it will POST. If it
does start adding things back, one at a time. If it won't post, swap out
the RAM with known working RAM, then the video card with any old PCI
card that you know is good. Then the power supply, then I would suspect
the motherboard, before the CPU. Bad CPUs that aren't made bad from
abuse, are extremely rare.
>
>
> At 07:13 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote:
>>Hi List,
>>
>>My main desktop machine failed to start up this morning.
>>
>>System is a P4 3.2Ghz - about 15 months old, built by me.
>>
>>Symptoms:
>>Mobo appears to power up OK. (a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP) - Power LED on board
>> is
>>lit, RAM LED is lit, IDE devices go through their normal initialisation.
All fans are spinning, heatsinks are clear and clean
>>
>>But no video, no error beeps, nothing! Screens report 'no videi signal'
>>
>>Swapped out video card - no change.
>>
>>Reseated RAM, no change.
>>
>>My curent guess is dead CPU... but is there anything else obvious I
>> should
>>be checking before I RA the CPU?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Neil A.
>>Sydney Oz.
>
>

Re: [H] Dea CPU?

[Winterlight]

Unless you are overclocking, or have been running it without cooling, I 
would say the CPU is the last thing I would suspect. Remove everything 
except video card, CPU, one stick of RAM and see if it will POST. If it 
does start adding things back, one at a time. If it won't post, swap out 
the RAM with known working RAM, then the video card with any old PCI card 
that you know is good. Then the power supply, then I would suspect the 
motherboard, before the CPU. Bad CPUs that aren't made bad from abuse, are 
extremely rare.



At 07:13 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote:

Hi List,

My main desktop machine failed to start up this morning.

System is a P4 3.2Ghz - about 15 months old, built by me.

Symptoms:
Mobo appears to power up OK. (a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP) - Power LED on board is
lit, RAM LED is lit, IDE devices go through their normal initialisation.
All fans are spinning, heatsinks are clear and clean

But no video, no error beeps, nothing! Screens report 'no videi signal'

Swapped out video card - no change.

Reseated RAM, no change.

My curent guess is dead CPU... but is there anything else obvious I should
be checking before I RA the CPU?

Thanks

Neil A.
Sydney Oz.

Re: [H] Dea CPU?

[Neil Atwood]

Hi List,

My main desktop machine failed to start up this morning.

System is a P4 3.2Ghz - about 15 months old, built by me.

Symptoms:
Mobo appears to power up OK. (a Gigabyte GA-8KNXP) - Power LED on board is
lit, RAM LED is lit, IDE devices go through their normal initialisation.
All fans are spinning, heatsinks are clear and clean

But no video, no error beeps, nothing! Screens report 'no videi signal'

Swapped out video card - no change.

Reseated RAM, no change.

My curent guess is dead CPU... but is there anything else obvious I should
be checking before I RA the CPU?

Thanks

Neil A.
Sydney Oz.

[H] Powerswitches

[Steve Pearce]

Hello folks, I have a question about power switches. A
friend of mine just bought a new m/b (Abit IC7G) and
are putting it in an older case. The problem is that
the power switch does not seem to be turning on the
computer. The LED for m/b power turns on, so I am
getting power into the system, but when I depress the
switch, it does nothing. I  have a 6 pin powerswitch
with 2 wires coming off it, can the wires be moved to
work with this m/b?

btw- I do have a power supply with the extra 4pin
power connector.

Thanks
 Steve

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Eli Allen]

Part of my psychology class was on how to get better results on surveys 
so..


- Original Message - 


Maybe add number 6, "No Comment"? LOL!

Eli's idea sounds similar to a Stanton survey personality profiler.


Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 07:35 AM 02/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:

answer doesn't always have the same meaning and allows for detection of 
what needs to be thrown out by opposing questions)  Laziness is not the 
same thing as actively trying to protest.



No it isn't, but I can't be sure which I'm dealing with.

T

[H] Dimension 4500 fans

[Thane Sherrington]

Do Dell Dimension 4500s take standard fans, or does one have to get them 
from Dell?


T

Re: [H] Secure IM App?

[Julian Zottl]

Jabber with the right plugins will do what you're talking about :)
Sabre

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CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC
Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff 
the right packets



-- Original Message --
From: "Robert Martin Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
Date:  Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT)

>
>A while back someone posted an application that was a free secure PC client 
>for transferring files, instant messaging, etc. I believe it also used a 
>strong encryption. Anyone here remember what it was called?
>
>lopaka
>
>

Re: [H] Secure IM App?

[Winterlight]

There is a freeware one called IOpus Secure Email Attachments that creates 
self extracting Blowfish encrypted files.

http://www.iopus.com/freeware/secure-email/


At 11:37 AM 6/2/2005, you wrote:

A while back someone posted an application that was a free secure PC 
client for transferring files, instant messaging, etc. I believe it also 
used a strong encryption. Anyone here remember what it was called?


lopaka

[H] Secure IM App?

[Robert Martin Jr.]

A while back someone posted an application that was a free secure PC client for transferring files, instant messaging, etc. I believe it also used a strong encryption. Anyone here remember what it was called?
lopaka

Re: [H] Unsolicited Resumes?

[Thane Sherrington]

My suggestion would be to look for companies you are willing to work for, 
and then research those companies so you can talk intelligently about it 
(you wouldn't believe how many people make it an interview and don't know 
anything about the company.)


Then find out the name of the person responsible for hiring.  Call and talk 
to him or his assistant.  Ask to have five minutes to come in and talk to 
him about possible employment.  Most people will give you five 
minutes.  When you go in, take your resume and prepare some sort of three 
minute spiel about yourself and how you would be the perfect fit with the 
company (knowing the company helps with this.)  At the end, ask if there 
are any jobs available right now that you would be a fit for.  If there is, 
offer your resume.  If not, ask if anything is coming up.  If so, ask if 
you could leave your resume.  If the answer is still no, ask if there are 
any other companies he knows of where you might be a good fit.  People hate 
to say no (especially repeatedly) so he'll give you at least one name to 
get you off his back.  Unless he asks you to stay longer, get out before 
the five minutes are up.


When you get home, send him a thank you note for his time and for the 
name(s) of possible employers (that way, he'll remember you kindly.)


Then contact the people he gave you and say something like "Bob recommended 
I call and talk you about employment.  If I could have five 
minutes..."  Rince, lather, repeat.


You will end up with a set of names (at least 10, but I've seen people end 
up with 30+) of possible employers.  Keep after them, as politely as 
possible, and sending thank you notes after each meeting.  You'd be 
surprised how well this works.


T

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

Just calculate the "distance" of each set of answers from the average,
throw away those that are beyond some limit, recalculate the average.

Play a little with that algorithm and the "some limit" will probably be obvious.



On 6/1/05, Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a a problem I'm wrestling with.  I have a company doing on-line
> performance reviews.  Each employee rates a set of other employees on a
> survey which has six categories with between 3 and 7 questions in each
> category.
> 
> The problem is that there are a couple bad apples who blow through the
> surveys rating someone either all 1s or all 5s, throwing off that person's
> ratings and effectively ruining the value of the performance review.
> 
> My first attempt to stop this was to time the surveys.  People who finished
> them in less than five minutes (the cheaters generally take two minutes)
> got a message telling them to go back and think about their answers and try
> again.  That didn't work because it turned out that several non-cheaters
> print out the review and do it on paper, and then login to enter the
> answers - since they were working from paper, they finished the review in
> under five minutes.
> 
> Then I tried checking each category - if all the answers in a specific
> category were the same, I rejected the review and told them to do it
> again.  No soap - occasionally there are legitimate reviews where one
> category has all the same answers.
> 
> So then I switched to checking the entire survey.  If all the answers are
> same, the survey gets rejected.  It took the cheaters slightly under a
> quarter of a second to figure that one out, as you can imagine.
> 
> The surveys are all anonymous, so I can't simply go to the person entering
> the survey and tell him/her to stop cheating.
> 
> Can anyone think of a way to monitor and block the cheaters?
> 
> T
> 
> 


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Re: [H] Moving registered programs drive to drive

[warpmedia]

No bought I've bought a few apps from Funduc, one for registry & this 
one for moving apps:


http://www.funduc.com/app_mover.htm



Thane Sherrington wrote:
Anyone ever use this program to move registered programs from one drive 
to another?


http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/moveit11.html

T

Re: [H] Unsolicited Resumes?

[W. D.]

At 21:57 6/1/2005, Ben Ruset, wrote:
>I have been doing the usual Monster/Craigslist/Careerbuilder thing, 
>looking for a higher paying IT job. I'm not getting much back in the way 
>of responses, which is OK since most of the jobs aren't really my ideal 
>job, and I'd like to get a job with a company and be happy enough to 
>stay for a long time.
>
>My ideal job would be some sort of systems/network admin at either a 
>college, high school, or municipality. I have scoped out all of the 
>colleges near me, and have applied through their websites. Schools and 
>municipalities, however, often have horrible websites that are never 
>updated, and therefore do not list what they have open in the way of 
>positions. So I am thinking of trying to send my resume out, 
>unsolicited, to a lot of these places.
>
>My question is, has anybody had any luck sending unsolicited resumes to 
>potential employers?

I asked a job-seeking friend once: 'What would be your ideal job?'
She responded: 'publicist for the local Red Cross'.  She eventually
went in and got the job.

So, if you are ethusiastic about a position, it shows to the
employer.  Send out the resumes, and call back a week or two
later.  Persistence pays.  If you really want the job, the
employer can bend rules, etc. to get you that job.



> 

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Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Thane Sherrington]

At 02:03 PM 02/06/2005, warpmedia wrote:

Maybe add number 6, "No Comment"? LOL!


They have one of those.

T 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[warpmedia]

Maybe add number 6, "No Comment"? LOL!

Eli's idea sounds similar to a Stanton survey personality profiler.


Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 07:35 AM 02/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:

answer doesn't always have the same meaning and allows for detection 
of what needs to be thrown out by opposing questions)  Laziness is not 
the same thing as actively trying to protest.



No it isn't, but I can't be sure which I'm dealing with.

T

Re: [H] OT just a test

[warpmedia]

Nope, just in denial here.



Brian Weeden wrote:

test - anyone in receipt?

Re: [H] Unsolicited Resumes?

[Wayne Johnson]

At 10:57 PM 6/1/2005, Ben Ruset typed:

My question is, has anybody had any luck sending unsolicited resumes to 
potential employers?


My wife has been unemployed 9 mo & has been going thru this exact process. 
She has garnished a few on site interviews from them but nothing so far in 
the way of meaningful offers.


Years & years ago I had obtained a list of all the companies that ran the 
same kind of CADD equipment that I was accustomed to & sent out resumes the 
old fashioned way via snail mail. I had sent out a few hundred unsolicited 
resumes before I got a single reply & I was only down to the C's on the 
list but fortunately that reply was enough for me to get my dream job in 
the local that I wanted but unfortunately later fate had other ideas.


While the idea does work don't expect a high rate of replies. Fortunately 
you aren't in a desperate situation so just keep plugging along. When I did 
the resume thing so many years ago I was like you working in my field but 
looking for something better so it is do able.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Wayne Johnson]

At 07:00 AM 6/2/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:

At 07:35 AM 02/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:
answer doesn't always have the same meaning and allows for detection of 
what needs to be thrown out by opposing questions)  Laziness is not the 
same thing as actively trying to protest.


No it isn't, but I can't be sure which I'm dealing with.


It's not your job to figure that out but rather who ever it is that is 
going to reading these reviews besides the reviewer & the reviewee.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Wayne Johnson]

At 06:31 AM 6/2/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:
Well, they aren't anonymous to me. :)  I'm just not supposed to release 
the information to the managers or employees.


Some one must read the reviews besides the employee [& you] otherwise why 
have the reviews ?  The person [whoever that might be] that reads the 
resulting reviews should not only be reading what the supervisor said about 
the employee but can also infer certain characteristics about the reviewer.


For example if Joe User wrote that I was a Dell Lover what could you infer 
from what you've read?When one reads this they could infer certain 
things about me &/or the author which in this case would be Joe User.   A 
manager that has 5 supervisors working for him with 10 people working for 
each supervisor. The manager not only learns about the people at the bottom 
of the barrel but also each of the supervisors from the reviews that they 
had written with any # of combinations of results being possible. You could 
be a good super but hate giving reviews or you could be a super that is too 
hard on their people & all this gathered from the evaluations that you 
wrote or it could be simply that I'm having a bad day & don't like what you 
wrote about your employees. ;-)   This is why the whole process should be 
as objective as possible & that the person being reviewed should have a 
chance to comment to the reviewer as well.


Maybe they ought to review their whole review process. 


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Unsolicited Resumes?

[Julian Zottl]

Never done it actually :/  Good luck though, you'll find something!  Too bad 
you want to stay in dirty jersey ;)
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CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC
Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff 
the right packets



-- Original Message --
From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
Date:  Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:57:43 -0400

>I have been doing the usual Monster/Craigslist/Careerbuilder thing, 
>looking for a higher paying IT job. I'm not getting much back in the way 
>of responses, which is OK since most of the jobs aren't really my ideal 
>job, and I'd like to get a job with a company and be happy enough to 
>stay for a long time.
>
>My ideal job would be some sort of systems/network admin at either a 
>college, high school, or municipality. I have scoped out all of the 
>colleges near me, and have applied through their websites. Schools and 
>municipalities, however, often have horrible websites that are never 
>updated, and therefore do not list what they have open in the way of 
>positions. So I am thinking of trying to send my resume out, 
>unsolicited, to a lot of these places.
>
>My question is, has anybody had any luck sending unsolicited resumes to 
>potential employers?
>

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Thane Sherrington]

At 07:35 AM 02/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:
answer doesn't always have the same meaning and allows for detection of 
what needs to be thrown out by opposing questions)  Laziness is not the 
same thing as actively trying to protest.


No it isn't, but I can't be sure which I'm dealing with.

T 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[joeuser]

This would beat a multiple guess type of question...

Thane Sherrington wrote:


At 10:27 PM 01/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:

Try a different way of asking the questions  For example give a list 
of qualities of a person and allows assigning points to the qualities, 
but limit the total of those points to a certain number so they must 
decide which ones they want to rank the highest.  Remember all points 
must be used so include some negative qualities and make it more of a 
ranking in that getting a one on something just means you are stronger 
at other things and not bad at it.



Re-reading your message, I think this idea might do it.  I'll run it by 
the client.  Thanks.


T

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Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Eli Allen]

I don't think that is a good assumption.  Either the cheaters hate someone 
or like someone, but then you can't do anything to change to questions to do 
much about that or they are lazy and just pick things out quickly which is 
what my ideas help with (can't just go down one column as that answer 
doesn't always have the same meaning and allows for detection of what needs 
to be thrown out by opposing questions)  Laziness is not the same thing as 
actively trying to protest.


Eli

- Original Message - 

At 10:27 PM 01/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:
Reverse the meaning of what a 1 and 5 mean in the test.  So basically make 
1 be strongly agree and 5 be strongly disagree but then change around the 
questions so strongly agreeing is bad in some cases but good in others.


Also include in there some questions that contradict each other, i.e. if 
they strongly agree with one question that same question is in reverse 
somewhere else so they better disagree then or else the result should be 
thrown out.


That doesn't help in this case.  So far as I can tell, the cheaters aren't 
trying to give someone good or bad scores, they are just trying to skew 
the results so that they can't be trusted (so they either enter all 1s or 
all 5s.  I think it's being done in protest of the idea of performance 
reviews.  It's probably only going to be fixed if management convinces the 
employees that the reviews aren't there to punish employees, but to help 
improve team work.  Hard to say if this will ever happen.


T

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Thane Sherrington]

At 10:27 PM 01/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:
Try a different way of asking the questions  For example give a list of 
qualities of a person and allows assigning points to the qualities, but 
limit the total of those points to a certain number so they must decide 
which ones they want to rank the highest.  Remember all points must be 
used so include some negative qualities and make it more of a ranking in 
that getting a one on something just means you are stronger at other 
things and not bad at it.


Re-reading your message, I think this idea might do it.  I'll run it by the 
client.  Thanks.


T 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Thane Sherrington]

At 10:27 PM 01/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote:
Reverse the meaning of what a 1 and 5 mean in the test.  So basically make 
1 be strongly agree and 5 be strongly disagree but then change around the 
questions so strongly agreeing is bad in some cases but good in others.


Also include in there some questions that contradict each other, i.e. if 
they strongly agree with one question that same question is in reverse 
somewhere else so they better disagree then or else the result should be 
thrown out.


That doesn't help in this case.  So far as I can tell, the cheaters aren't 
trying to give someone good or bad scores, they are just trying to skew the 
results so that they can't be trusted (so they either enter all 1s or all 
5s.  I think it's being done in protest of the idea of performance 
reviews.  It's probably only going to be fixed if management convinces the 
employees that the reviews aren't there to punish employees, but to help 
improve team work.  Hard to say if this will ever happen.


T 

Re: [H] -OT- Logic question for programmers on the list

[Thane Sherrington]

At 11:07 PM 01/06/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
The surveys should never be anonymous so the reviewer gets reviewed as 
well as the employees. It shouldn't take management more than a minute to 
figure out that this manager is rating all his or her people the same.


Well, they aren't anonymous to me. :)  I'm just not supposed to release the 
information to the managers or employees.


T