Re: [H] Lopaka's Desk project from a few months back
Very cool ! Congratulations. Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:22 PM To: Hwg Subject: [H] Lopaka's Desk project from a few months back Here's a short write up and parts list for a desk I built a few weeks back. Enjoy http://97.84.98.104:81/projects/desk.html lopaka
Re: [H] Duncan
Great news Duncan...Welcome Back ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:26 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan To the List, I am now happily at home and completed the 2d phase of life; Iam now 67yrs old. I am trying to relern EMail! I am so happy the List is UP and Opsnorml. Thankyou for your thoughts and prayers. They worked. I am still kickingeven though the new guy is strange. regards, Duhcan On 01/24/2015 15:25, Chris Reeves wrote: Agreed. Some of the best news of the weekend -Original Message- From: Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com Sent: ‎1/‎23/‎2015 11:48 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan It will be nice to get you back on the list Duncan ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:46 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan I'm doing okay. Feelin' good. I am in an assisted living facility called Rosewood, in Fort Oglethorpe (where my sister lives). Have my own apartment. And it sucks to have to stay here, til June, my calendar says. The food's lousy, but it's regular. I'm supporting my local pharmacy--in Atlanta. I haven't figured out email yet. Sis comes by every couple of days and helps me out. Learning my way around the place. Thanks for asking after me. Onward and Upward, Duncan - Original Message -From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.comTo: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comSent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:55:30 -0500 (EST)Subject: Re: [H] Duncan Bump. Anyone heard anything? Scott On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: Any updates on Duncan? It's been a few weeks and was hoping to hear good news! On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Strength to Duncan family. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com wrote: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list.Jim Edwards
Re: [H] dumb question
Is your setting to extend the display ? -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:14 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. thanks fp At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dumb question recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Build a system even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it. ***
Re: [H] dumb question
I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dumb question recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Useless Invention: Camcorder with braile-encoded buttons. ***
Re: [H] dumb question
Perplexing. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 5:21 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question correct a while back for grins rebooted, initially started on monitor 2 and when it got to log in it switched to 1. Sticky notes stayed on 2. I am so confused. Thanks fp At 03:03 PM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: Is your setting to extend the display ? -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:14 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. thanks fp At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dumb question Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** There's more to life than sitting around in the sun in your underwear playing the clarinet. --Woody Allen ***
Re: [H] Duncan
It will be nice to get you back on the list Duncan ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:46 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan I'm doing okay. Feelin' good. I am in an assisted living facility called Rosewood, in Fort Oglethorpe (where my sister lives). Have my own apartment. And it sucks to have to stay here, til June, my calendar says. The food's lousy, but it's regular. I'm supporting my local pharmacy--in Atlanta. I haven't figured out email yet. Sis comes by every couple of days and helps me out. Learning my way around the place. Thanks for asking after me. Onward and Upward, Duncan - Original Message -From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.comTo: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comSent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:55:30 -0500 (EST)Subject: Re: [H] Duncan Bump. Anyone heard anything? Scott On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: Any updates on Duncan? It's been a few weeks and was hoping to hear good news! On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Strength to Duncan family. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com wrote: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards
Re: [H] Linux Unbuntu support
do you type Lspci or Ispci ? I think it should be a lower case L Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:12 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Linux Unbuntu support I type Ispci and I get back No command 'Ispci' found, did you mean: Command 'Ispci' from package 'pciutils' (main) Ispci command not found At 07:55 PM 11/29/2014, you wrote: Hi, Can you give us the output of the following commands (in a terminal window). I have two options, one will go to your screen (console), the other to a text file that you could move with a USB Stick and copy/paste from. Console output: lspci lspci -vv lsusb dmesg cat /proc/cpuinfo free -m uname -a lsmod iwconfig Redirected output (will be in your home directory and called hwglinux.txt) lspci ~/hwglinux.txt lspci -vv ~/hwglinux.txt lsusb ~/hwglinux.txt dmesg ~/hwglinux.txt cat /proc/cpuinfo ~/hwglinux.txt free -m ~/hwglinux.txt uname -a ~/hwglinux.txt lsmod ~/hwglinux.txt iwconfig ~/hwglinux.txt -Harry On 11/29/2014 08:00 PM, Winterlight wrote: I don't think so... the laptop supports IEEE 802.11 G. I have two routers here and it can't connect to either one of them. If I boot into Win7 then it works fine. Security is WPA2... it is all common protocols and encryption that I would be surprised if it was that. I don't know enough about Linux to troubleshoot it. Maybe the driver but I wouldn't know where to go for other drivers. At 06:49 PM 11/29/2014, you wrote: Are the router and your laptop using the same wireless protocol ? Could there be a mismatch there ? Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:52 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Linux Unbuntu support I am running Elementary 0 on my old IBM X41 tablet. I can't get the Wifi to work... it sees my router but won't connect. All settings appear right... I am no Linux expert.. but just keeps trying to connect without resolving the connect or giving an error message. The only kind of support I can find for Elementary 0 consists of chat group on the web site that where there are lots of questions and no answers for anybody. Elementary 0 is Ubuntu based so I figure if I can find a good Ubuntu email group, or forum maybe I can get some help any body know of a good Utuntu user group / forum / email list? Thanks w
Re: [H] Linux Unbuntu support
This might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/wlan0-n o-wireless-extension-907830/ gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:46 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Linux Unbuntu support Can you give us the output of the following commands (in a terminal window). I appended the text to a reply but it looks like the Listserv isn't letting it though... probably too long. Here it is www.winterlight.org/hwglinux.txt but first your last command = iwconfig ~/hwglinux.txt returned lo no wireless extensions irda0 no wireless extensions. etho0 no wireless extensions thanks for the help Harry. w
Re: [H] Linux Unbuntu support
Are the router and your laptop using the same wireless protocol ? Could there be a mismatch there ? Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:52 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Linux Unbuntu support I am running Elementary 0 on my old IBM X41 tablet. I can't get the Wifi to work... it sees my router but won't connect. All settings appear right... I am no Linux expert.. but just keeps trying to connect without resolving the connect or giving an error message. The only kind of support I can find for Elementary 0 consists of chat group on the web site that where there are lots of questions and no answers for anybody. Elementary 0 is Ubuntu based so I figure if I can find a good Ubuntu email group, or forum maybe I can get some help any body know of a good Utuntu user group / forum / email list? Thanks w
Re: [H] Duncan
My best wishes for a speedy recovery Duncan ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of James Edwards Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:52 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: addy4st...@yahoo.com Subject: [H] Duncan Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards
Re: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer
Have you talked to the rent to own place ? From what I can see, they probably were the ones that put Trilock Plus on the PC. RegardsGary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer I have a computer that was a rent to buy machine. It's paid for, but is suddenly booting up (as soon as I press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login) with a Trilock Plus screen (red screen) telling me the computer has been locked because a virus has been detected. I don't think that's the case, but I can't figure out what file is running to bring up the screen. Winlogon looks normal, as does Explorer.exe. What runs that early in the boot process? The run entries in the registry appear clean as well. I'm assuming it's a service, but so far I'm not sure which one. T
Re: [H] New M$ speculation?
It would seem that it will be called Windows 10...the buzz is that MS is distancing itself from Windows 8 by skipping the number 9. I am running 8.1 It is ok, but on my PC I would say that I think I liked Windows 7 Ultimate a bit better. I seem to have to reboot more often with 8.1 than with 7. But other than that, it runs ok. Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 1:56 PM To: HWG Subject: [H] New M$ speculation? My OB called driving home from his Village's Comuter meeting. A member of the group put forth a presentation that indicates Microsoft's new OS will be 'Windows 10,' not Windows 9.0. The release date is still Spring 2015. I can look forward to this information, if true. I am still updating my machines to Win7.0pro based on List comments! Comments, opinions? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] -OT- If you don't mind helping me out
Done !:-) Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:44 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] -OT- If you don't mind helping me out I apologize in advance for this OT post, but it's sort of an experiment, so here goes. Our 19 year old cat passed away in the Spring, and my wife is trying to get her picture on the Jones Cola bottle. My brother, who considers himself a bit of a Facebook guru with a massive following offered to get votes for her. I figured I'd see hundreds of votes pour in, but I think she got about ten votes that way (she has 33 in total, and my wife already got between 15 and 25 just from friends she emailed directly). I'm wondering if a mailing list like this would have a bigger impact than Facebook, so if you have time, please drop a vote here: http://www.jonessoda.com/gallery/view.php?ID=1376609offset=1 If you are offended by this, please feel free to mock/flame me. :) T
Re: [H] edit boot loader Windows 7
Is this what you need ? http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/data-center/modifying-the-windows-7-boot-lo ader-with-the-boot-configuration-data-editor-tool/ Regards...Gary -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:50 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] edit boot loader Windows 7 I have a machine that dual boots Win7 and Vista. I moved and added some hard drives and I need to change the path to Vista in the boot loader... how do I do this?
Re: [H] Every house needs one of these
I was able to upgrade to 6mb/50k recently...the joys of semi-rural living lol -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:50 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Every house needs one of these I've got 500/100 from FIOS, not quite google fiber but good enough :) *AND* I don't have to live in dueling banjo land to get it. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:52:57AM -0400, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: http://i.imgur.com/vdaegW8.jpg Gigabit Internet service.Thanks Google ;) -- Bryan G. Seitz
[H] Hardware Firewall
I was wondering if you guys can recommend a hardware based firewall. I have been using an old gateway PC running ClearOS and it works ok, but I am seeing signs the PC is on its last legs. Since I am out of work, money is a concern, but I like having a firewall between me and the DSL connection. Even if the security might be more fiction than fact lol ThanksGary
Re: [H] MS and WinXP?
My understanding from a Microsoft website is that support ends on Apr 8, 2014http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx If you do not want to run an unsupported OS, and do not want to upgrade to something newer...what is there left for you to do ? Just curious. RegardsGary -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:27 PM To: HWG Subject: [H] MS and WinXP? Has MS pushed up their schedule about WinXP? I am working to an 02-2014 'plug-pull' datethat I believe I got from the wise MS mavens here on our List. No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8.1 right now. I do not own it yet. No. I do not wish to upgrade to W8 right now. I do not own it yet. No. I do not wish to upgrade to W7 right now, even though I own it. I am still working a HALissue of a C2D cpu that may have a dead core. This is an old issue and I truly appreciate all the help I have received. Sorry, nothing worked. So,. I bought a supposedly old, clean, copy of WinXP. After 3wks of dicking with it, I finally got it to erase the root partition and install itself. Funny, the install never asked for the 'product key. Odd? I just trucked on. It lives today. But, I am now stuck with no answer from MS Windows Update. Most depressing. Opinions, suggestions welcome. Duncan
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm my new game pc
Good Morning, At this point, I would say about 6 weeks ago. I used an Asus Rampage II Extreme MB that a friend bought and decided not to use. So he gave me a very good deal on it. I initially planned to OC the system, and my understanding was that it was a good MB for that. I decided against the OC at the last minute as at 3.06 Ghz, I felt the cpu was fast enough for my needs and I always seem to have heat issues with my builds. So far that hasn't been the case with this one...thankfully. I had asked about the SSDs as I thought possibly you were going for a RAID 1 with them, which as I understand it isn't a good idea, even with TRIM. But I have no experience as of yet with them so I am not 100% positive either. Regards...Gary At 12:27 AM 10/8/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Gary, Thanks for your reply, how long ago did you build this? What motherboard did you use and why? I want to use 2 SSD's and use one for the OS and the page/swap file and the other for the apps/games. Thursday, October 7, 2010, 1:21:02 PM, you wrote: A couple of suggestions to look at...most of which I am using right now for what it is worth. I7 950 for the CPU, I decided not to overclock nVidia 460 I am using a single 480, but I have read good things on the 460s 6 gb DDr3 I am currently using a HAF 932 for my case, good airflow, a bit noisier then I would like though. I am using a Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler it works well, but is HUGE. Out of curiosity, why 2 SSDs ? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm my new game pc
If you are considering dual GPUs for WOW, I would check the tech support forums on Blizz first. I have seen some people have problems with that setup, but since I am not using that I never really looked very hard. As I understand it, WoW is more CPU intensive then GPU. RegardsGray At 12:30 AM 10/8/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 probably.. ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) Corsair H50 Water Cooler G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU Any questions? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm my new game pc
A couple of suggestions to look at...most of which I am using right now for what it is worth. I7 950 for the CPU, I decided not to overclock nVidia 460 I am using a single 480, but I have read good things on the 460s 6 gb DDr3 I am currently using a HAF 932 for my case, good airflow, a bit noisier then I would like though. I am using a Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler it works well, but is HUGE. Out of curiosity, why 2 SSDs ? Regardsgary At 11:26 AM 10/7/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello THG, The time has come. On December 7, 2010 WoW Cataclysm will be gloriously released to the masses. Now, I must construct a new game system. The last few times I have built systems for myself, I have found great advice here on the list and so I am here again. While the requirements and suggestions have not been released to the actual system specs, I already know what I need to do... - One step down from the best CPU possible (AMD or Intel). - Minimum 4GB RAM. - One step down from best video card available (ATI or nVidia). - SSD x 2 (Intel was best last I knew?). - Motherboard to handle all this. - Power supply that is appropriate. I don't care about noise. I want the best bang for my buck. I can handle the rest. Suggestions please? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] MS supplied BACKUP logic in XP?
Good Morning Duncan, Yes, I do believe that Vertas did own Backup Exec for a while, and it is now a Symantec product. I think what Microsoft did was to license the basic code from Veritas at the time and provided the function with XP. Ironically I still get support updates from Symantec that I subscribed to from my last job, in fact I got one this morning...very timely . :-) I used to joke with my former boss, backups are very easy, it is the restores that are hard. If you don't feel that you would need to do a full system restore, ie recover from a total failure, then I would think backing up data only should be fine. I could recommend restoring random single files from time to time to make sure you can. It is a very bad feeling to think you are covered and then find your backups don't work when it comes time to restore something important. Been there, done that to be sure. Good luckGary At 12:02 PM 9/21/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, Thanks for the vote of confidence. So far, I have used it only for backups. I have never had to do a restore. Would your reference to Backup Exec connect to Veritas Corporation? I can accept that perhaps Veritas may have been absorbed by MS way back when. My XP version indicates MS and Veritas Corp. copyright 2001. My W2K version indicates Veritas Corporation, v5.0, copyright 1999. I will accept a version mis-match ATM. Basically, I am doing my research of these routines that I have used for several years now. I will use the W2K version to backup the DATA only of my server before I upgraded the server to either MS Server 2K3, or, just plain Win XP. I am still trying to get wise with the Restore side of the program ATM. Yes, I know that there are several other backup programs available. Just now I am studying the right settings/selections during backup to just save the data (user, loaded programs, etc.). I plan to de-select the W2K State Data. I don't believe I need to backup any W2K OS files. But, I can still be wrong here! LOL! Best, Duncan On 09/20/2010 21:46, Gary Jackson wrote: Ahhh...there is nothing wrong with the backup utility included with Windows. I thought I had read somewhere it is basically a stripped down version of Backup Exec. Not sure I would be much help on anything specific as I have not used that one exactly, but I used to do server backups when I was working so I might be able to help with a general backup question...possibly ? Best regardsGary At 07:47 PM 9/20/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, I use the Backup utility included in WinXPro. I assume that nobody on this list does due to it being MS. Was hoping somebody had some experience with this canned program. Nothing more. Was willing to go off-list for further traffic. Suppose I need some help via obvious. Sorry. Best, Duncan On 09/20/2010 20:30, Gary Jackson wrote: Hi Duncan ! Please pardon my denseness, but what are you asking ? Best regardsGary At 06:16 PM 9/20/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Would like to trade emails about the SUBJ. I do not wish to load some other code/logic, ATM. I am open to other code/logic, but ATM I only need to speak about my default XP BACKUP logic. It does seem to work. I use it each month. Yes, manually. (I need chores!!) Best, Duncan
Re: [H] MS supplied BACKUP logic in XP?
Hi Duncan ! Please pardon my denseness, but what are you asking ? Best regardsGary At 06:16 PM 9/20/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Would like to trade emails about the SUBJ. I do not wish to load some other code/logic, ATM. I am open to other code/logic, but ATM I only need to speak about my default XP BACKUP logic. It does seem to work. I use it each month. Yes, manually. (I need chores!!) Best, Duncan
Re: [H] MS supplied BACKUP logic in XP?
Ahhh...there is nothing wrong with the backup utility included with Windows. I thought I had read somewhere it is basically a stripped down version of Backup Exec. Not sure I would be much help on anything specific as I have not used that one exactly, but I used to do server backups when I was working so I might be able to help with a general backup question...possibly ? Best regardsGary At 07:47 PM 9/20/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, I use the Backup utility included in WinXPro. I assume that nobody on this list does due to it being MS. Was hoping somebody had some experience with this canned program. Nothing more. Was willing to go off-list for further traffic. Suppose I need some help via obvious. Sorry. Best, Duncan On 09/20/2010 20:30, Gary Jackson wrote: Hi Duncan ! Please pardon my denseness, but what are you asking ? Best regardsGary At 06:16 PM 9/20/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Would like to trade emails about the SUBJ. I do not wish to load some other code/logic, ATM. I am open to other code/logic, but ATM I only need to speak about my default XP BACKUP logic. It does seem to work. I use it each month. Yes, manually. (I need chores!!) Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Backing up Win7 woes
Given that you can buy a 1tb drive for $75.00, I guess I am not too concerned at how large the OS is. That is the downside for more features I guess. At 05:14 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by Soren that this shall come to pass: OK, so far my impressions are that the Win7 installation footprint should be in the area of only around 14 GB. I need to do some partition resizing and so, including deletion of several propreritary HP progs, and cleaning up the registry. Hopefully, this will end satisfactory. In a few days I'll know. Yes, I know I'm acting paranoid :), but I usually deal with XP installations (dumped Vista completely at first sight) where a fresh install can fit on a single CD, using highest compression in Ghost. With drivers and different progs installed, only 2 CDs, or at worst, a single DVD. Come on... 14 GBs for an O/S alone - M$ has some serious issues here. I used to think that e.g. Ubuntu is a piece of bloatware, but this one for sure gets the prize. What happened to OS/2, BTW? I've always wondered why any O/S needs to be more than 64MB's which is more than sufficient with proper coding, even seen with todays' standards. /s
Re: [H] Backing up Win7 woes
Hi Duncan, Accepting, I guess yeah to a point. Not sure exactly where that point is to be sure. But I do understand that code efficiency is not valued by large corps for one thing. Another is that the OS of today does a lot more then what say OS/2 or Win 3.1 could do. That has to make a difference too. This is not to say that things couldn't be a lot tighter, just that I am not real worried about the OS taking 14 GB or even 30 GB. Doesn't the nVidia gtx 480 come with something like 1.5 GB DDR5 ram ? And systems with 4 GB+ ram are pretty much the norm on a 64 bit OS...right ? My current PC has a Raid 1 setup. That was fairly exotic at one time, not so anymore.I guess what I am saying is that old guys like us tend to view things with the lens of what they were when we first startedforgetting that things change, sometimes for the better and sometimes not. That's all RegardsGary At 06:09 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, So you are accepting OS Bloat? Like because you can now buy a 1TB hard drive? Sorry. I'm still in Soren's camp ATM. I don't expect M$ to be perfect and/or crisp with their OS. I have watched M$ OS since WFWG3.1 (actually MS-DOS v3.1). :) M$ has done a poor job of bloat redux to my view. It seems that each time technology gives us a bigger storage medium, M$ bloats to use as much as it can; under the guise that, Well, our users have moved to this new/larger footprint. Sadly, NOT all of us. Happy that you have really big HD's. I do not. Interesting perspective BTW. Plan to sleep on this one! Best, Duncan On 09/06/2010 18:36, Gary Jackson wrote: Given that you can buy a 1tb drive for $75.00, I guess I am not too concerned at how large the OS is. That is the downside for more features I guess. At 05:14 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by Soren that this shall come to pass: OK, so far my impressions are that the Win7 installation footprint should be in the area of only around 14 GB. I need to do some partition resizing and so, including deletion of several propreritary HP progs, and cleaning up the registry. Hopefully, this will end satisfactory. In a few days I'll know. Yes, I know I'm acting paranoid :), but I usually deal with XP installations (dumped Vista completely at first sight) where a fresh install can fit on a single CD, using highest compression in Ghost. With drivers and different progs installed, only 2 CDs, or at worst, a single DVD. Come on... 14 GBs for an O/S alone - M$ has some serious issues here. I used to think that e.g. Ubuntu is a piece of bloatware, but this one for sure gets the prize. What happened to OS/2, BTW? I've always wondered why any O/S needs to be more than 64MB's which is more than sufficient with proper coding, even seen with todays' standards. /s
Re: [H] Backing up Win7 woes
Hi Duncan ! My initial comment on the 1 TB HD was meant to be sardonic (?) I think that is the right word. It does boggle my mind how much storage you can cheaply put on a desktop PC for very little money. I remember paying $1000 in 1985 or 86 for a 80 MB external HD for the Mac I had. lol I agree that gaming is driving the desktop market. Boutique companies like Digital Storm seem to be selling a lot of gaming rigs these days. Like you said...no harm, no foul:-) Gary At 07:41 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, Fair enough about the OS business. Trying not to sling and start a war. Poking a bit. Sadly, I quite agree with you mostly! About the Video Card business: I have zero clue. I sorta gave up around GF4-tech. Seems the envelope will be driven by gamers that keep demanding, Real-Life! I believe that gaming will probably generate most/all hdw upgrades. Looks like the OS folk are just leeching quite a bit for free ATM. :) No harm, no foul! Duncan On 09/06/2010 19:28, Gary Jackson wrote: Hi Duncan, Accepting, I guess yeah to a point. Not sure exactly where that point is to be sure. But I do understand that code efficiency is not valued by large corps for one thing. Another is that the OS of today does a lot more then what say OS/2 or Win 3.1 could do. That has to make a difference too. This is not to say that things couldn't be a lot tighter, just that I am not real worried about the OS taking 14 GB or even 30 GB. Doesn't the nVidia gtx 480 come with something like 1.5 GB DDR5 ram ? And systems with 4 GB+ ram are pretty much the norm on a 64 bit OS...right ? My current PC has a Raid 1 setup. That was fairly exotic at one time, not so anymore. I guess what I am saying is that old guys like us tend to view things with the lens of what they were when we first startedforgetting that things change, sometimes for the better and sometimes not. That's all RegardsGary At 06:09 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Gary, So you are accepting OS Bloat? Like because you can now buy a 1TB hard drive? Sorry. I'm still in Soren's camp ATM. I don't expect M$ to be perfect and/or crisp with their OS. I have watched M$ OS since WFWG3.1 (actually MS-DOS v3.1). :) M$ has done a poor job of bloat redux to my view. It seems that each time technology gives us a bigger storage medium, M$ bloats to use as much as it can; under the guise that, Well, our users have moved to this new/larger footprint. Sadly, NOT all of us. Happy that you have really big HD's. I do not. Interesting perspective BTW. Plan to sleep on this one! Best, Duncan On 09/06/2010 18:36, Gary Jackson wrote: Given that you can buy a 1tb drive for $75.00, I guess I am not too concerned at how large the OS is. That is the downside for more features I guess. At 05:14 PM 9/6/2010, It was written by Soren that this shall come to pass: OK, so far my impressions are that the Win7 installation footprint should be in the area of only around 14 GB. I need to do some partition resizing and so, including deletion of several propreritary HP progs, and cleaning up the registry. Hopefully, this will end satisfactory. In a few days I'll know. Yes, I know I'm acting paranoid :), but I usually deal with XP installations (dumped Vista completely at first sight) where a fresh install can fit on a single CD, using highest compression in Ghost. With drivers and different progs installed, only 2 CDs, or at worst, a single DVD. Come on... 14 GBs for an O/S alone - M$ has some serious issues here. I used to think that e.g. Ubuntu is a piece of bloatware, but this one for sure gets the prize. What happened to OS/2, BTW? I've always wondered why any O/S needs to be more than 64MB's which is more than sufficient with proper coding, even seen with todays' standards. /s
Re: [H] Vaporware or..
It hasn't been released yetnext year is a long ways away. :-) At 01:58 PM 9/3/2010, It was written by CW that this shall come to pass: Gearbox says they will release Duke Nukem Forever next year. Does anyone care? Kind of sad the greatest vaporware story of all time may end.. http://kotaku.com/5629655/your-first-look-at-duke-nukem-forever-in-action
Re: [H] Really simple email questions?
Then I must be old school too as I am still using Eudora. :-) Regards..Gary At 01:48 PM 7/12/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: OK. I've followed this LIST for years. I am still confused about EMAIL. I know who my current ISP is. I know that they pass EMAIL off to; Yahoo.com. I know that Yahoo.com has their 'own' restrictions. ISP: Bellsouth.net Upstream: ATT.net (???) Mail provider: Yahoo.com I only do EMAIL via [what I believe is] a local EMAIL client, Thunderbird. I think this is now Eudora of my past. Eudora does NOT work locally any longer anyway. I do not like to do EMAIL via WEB PORTAL's. This LIST has convinced me of a variety of security-related reasons to believe what I now believe. Am I still very Old-School? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
Being home bound with vision problems, wifi really doesn't offer me anything that wired doesn't do better. If I was more mobile, I would probably use both. RegardsGary At 06:24 PM 5/12/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives
Yes, that is exactly right. I still play World of Warcraft, and pay my $15 dutifully every month . lol Regards, Gary At 05:30 AM 10/26/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell the game but you pay your monthly fee as well to take part in playing it. MMO: Massive Multiplayer Online. Pretty sure that's right anyway. DSinc wrote: I suppose that I am w-a-y out of the norm here. Can someone please 'splain me this concept of subscription for a video game for a PC? Do not believe I am a complete dweeb. I so have a subscription for my weekend newspaper. OR? Might this be close? I an really curious Best, Duncan Gmail wrote: I do not understand that argument. $15 for on average 60+ hours of fun a month is pretty darn cheap compared to many other firms of entertainment. I would much rather pay that subscription than $50 for a game with 15 hours of game play and no replay value. Or a trip to the movies. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2009-10-25, at 5:22 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from 2005! Quake stated MO (not massive) play for free phenomenon the money grubbers have polluted. I have trouble seeing the supposed value added paying for benefits of massive w/ persistent save data @ $15/month subscription + $50/year software. Stan Zaske wrote: It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW). Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: I have something you might be interested in Brian: Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free http://bit.ly/8dUTM Brian Weeden wrote: I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years. I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine. The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth. And yes, I am running a 24 LCD. I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI, but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole new card. The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins - will probably run just fine on my current setup. However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data). So my upgrade this winter will be Windows 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a SSD boot drive. But I have no incentive to change my CPU. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users for years now. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area. Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by. I play most new games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years. Processor? The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I have yet to saturate all 4 processors. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
I am using NoScript, seems to works the same as always. :-) Regards, Gary At 06:00 AM 9/9/2009, It was written by maccrawj that this shall come to pass: Unless it has a NoScript type functionality I don't think I'll be using it. Bryan Seitz wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] LINUX?
I am probably missing something real basic here, but a couple of questions come to mind... 1. Is there really anything to be gained for any of the Linux companies to get that certification ? Looks like it costs a boatload of money to get the offical compliance. 2. Everyone has their favorite OS, that is human nature...but practically speaking, have you ever come across a Unix App that you couldn't get to compile on Linux ? I haven't used Linux for a few years now, but when it was my main OS...I never did. But I might have just been lucky Regards, Gary At 02:02 AM 6/6/2009, It was written by John R Steinbruner that this shall come to pass: Interesting. Just read up on that, and yep, OSX is fully POSIX and *Nix compliant, and is Unix 03 certified on the SUS side, while no release of Linux has made it to SUS certification as of now. :) Cool beans. :) On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: Not all correct. OSX -- and it's pure core called Darwin (that lacks some of the GUI stuff) has a terminal -- I run tcsh for mine, the standard is bash -- just like your average linux desktop. OSX comes with grep, find, bc, vi, emacs, du, df, yes, etc etc -- all the random commands that you expect to find on a *nix/*bsd system. Furthermore, genetically speaking, most of the userland derives directly from FreeBSD. As I understand it, parts of the kernel (the non-mach parts) were also derived from the FreeBSD monolithic kernel. The mach kernel was developed specifically as a microkernel for I believe BSD systems. So, the userland and the kernel are pretty much pure unix, with some Apple additions thrown on the top. Furthermore, somewhat incorrect when you separate unix and nextstep -- nextstep is ALSO a unix-derived system. Last, but not least, check out Unix certification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification OSX is an _official_ unix. You know what's not an official unix--any version of linux ;-) (so, take that with a grain of salt!) Scott On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:17 PM, maccrawj wrote: -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] I missed something along the way?
Well, everyone has their preferred way of doing things. I like Exchange/Outlook the best for me ( currently working to put together a server to host my own domain at home ). At my last job, I was a Domino/Notes Admin ( along with being A network Admin ) and while I think Outlook works better then Notes as an email client, Notes does bring some interesting groupware capacity to the dance. But for *me* I don't like web based email clients, I find them slow, clunky and I rarely use them. Regards, Gary At 06:11 AM 6/6/2009, It was written by Brian Weeden that this shall come to pass: Frankly, I don't understand why anyone still uses Outlook or any other stand alone email client. --- Brian On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:32 PM, FORC5 fuf...@cox.net wrote: Hope not fp At 05:50 PM 6/5/2009, Winterlight Poked the stick with: At 03:25 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote: Email has had to evolve over the years. What worked 5 years ago may not work today. ATT/Yahoo has been shifting over to newer servers that require SSL and high-numbered ports (465/995). They are not alone. Comcast has gradually been dropping all support for port 25 SMTP. These changes in email standards are being mandated by the newer RFCs and the ever increasing onslaught of spammers and phishers. I think that it is just a matter of time until we all have to use online web interface email unless you are using something like Outlook tied into Hotmail. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- One day I'm a windshield, the next day a bug thereon.
Re: [H] LINUX?
Correct me if I am wrong, but the kernel for Linux is the same on all the distros isn't it ? My point being is that the distros add some niceties and sort of give each one a flavor. I have used SLS, Slackware, Ubuntu, and some others. Since I kind of learned on Slackware that is that I know the best, but my impression was that others that I tried were also good. Some minor variation on where things went or how they wanted things done, but at the core..they are all Linux...right ? Regards, Gary At 03:09 AM 6/4/2009, It was written by z00...@gmail.com that this shall come to pass: Ubuntu and linux mint FTW --Original Message-- From: Jason Carson Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] LINUX? Sent: Jun 4, 2009 6:54 AM Gentoo and Mandriva What flavors of Linux are any of you using? Sam Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from Aljawal
Re: [H] MAC Address Filter
Interesting, thanks for the link. It is good to learn new things, even if I am very late in learning them :-) RegardsGary At 11:10 AM 4/28/2009, It was written by Greg Sevart that this shall come to pass: Ding ding. Disabling the SSID beacon and MAC filtering are utterly pointless. The six dumbest ways to secure a wireless LAN http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:47 AM To: hwg Cc: hwg Subject: Re: [H] MAC Address Filter Turning off the said broadcast doesn't really work. I'm pretty sure the ssid is in all the packet headers so anyone with a sniffer will still see it. Same thing with filtering by mac address - the allowed macs are in all the packet headers so all you have to do is sniff and then spoof your mac address. The only true security for wireles is WPA. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation Sent from my iPhone On 28-Apr-09, at 4:01 PM, Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com wrote: Two tips I have always heard for *wireless* networks, 1) Turn off SSID broadcasting and use a unique SSID. 2) If you have a static network ( meaning that you are not adding and deleting a lot of devices ) use Mac Address Filtering. As a former Network Admin, I have not encountered the use of Mac Address Filtering as a security method for wired networks, probably because keeping it up to date would be more of a pain then it is worth. If you have disabled the wireless side of your router, I don't think you need to worry about it as it isn't accessible. Regards.Gary At 12:21 PM 4/27/2009, It was written by DHSinclair that this shall come to pass: Bino, OK. I have back thru this whole thing. Thank you for your help, but I am still confused. I see nothing in my docs for the router that explicitly indicate that using MAF is truly for WLAN only. I will dig more later today. Anyway. I can confirm that if I now drop my current clients off the MAF, none of them will ever get thru the router to the WWW. This I have confirmed several times. And, I have re-confirmed that I have all WLAN business in the router disabled; I even left the external antennas in the box! Yes, there is a new f/w available for my router (v1.9). I currently use v1.8. I have read and re-read the release notes and do NOT see any patches/bug fixes for a Wired LAN. Everything I read is for WLAN and VPN tunnels. I use neither at all. So, I see little push to update the f/w of my router ATM. But, as you have mentioned some segregation between Wired and Wireless NOW in the MAF logic, I will now go back and dig deeper.perhaps I missed something. Not like this has ever happened before.. LOL! Still listening. Best, Duncan At 09:28 04/27/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ok, going inline with BG1 before my responses; the 1 is if we continue; then those will be BG2 and so on... ;) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:23 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] MAC Address Filter Bino, I gotta go inline below. At 15:32 04/24/2009 -0700, you wrote: According to the DGL-4300 manual (found the pdf online) the Filter settings section (Advanced - MAC Address Filter) lets you pick from filtering wireless and wired clients separate from each other p.39). OK. Fair. I will go back to the docs once again.. :) John is right that some routers usually only let you do it for wireless clients, but as it turns out yours definitely let's you do it for both. I am going to, ATM, trust you on this.. :) My router did/does NOT give me a choice between WLAN / LAN BG1 IF you have a DGL-4300, since I found the pdf manual online and it had a screenshot that clearly showed selecting b/w wireless and wired clients for the MAF, then either you have a different model which doesn't have it, or you need a firmware update to enable that. Oh and btw, your understanding of the MAF you wrote below is completely wrong (just fyi). OMG!!! Please enlighten What you described was NAT (Network Address Translation)-that's what takes the PCs on the private address space of your home network and translates them into the public IP that gives them access to the internet. And it's NOT 2-way; i.e. just b/c the PCs can access the internet, that doesn't mean that things on the internet can access your PCs. Thanks Bino. No. I do believe that NAT is THE clear concept here.. All my router's since 199x have use
Re: [H] MAC Address Filter
When I had my house built, I was able to have the house wired for Internet use in each room. For me at least, and possibly I am showing my age, I am not a big fan of wireless. Yes, I know that it is the way things are moving, but for me anyway...I prefer a wired lan and probably will stay that way as much and for as long as possible. Gary P.S. As in all thingsYMMV;-) At 01:13 PM 4/28/2009, It was written by DHSinclair that this shall come to pass: Greg, I understand this. But, somehow my original questions still appear to be un-answered. I do not need knowledge about Wire-less Router security. I do NOT use WLAN in my home. I enabled the MAC Address Filter in my router because it seemed to offer some additional security in addition to normal NAT and SPI. Apparently I was wrong. With so many comments regarding WLAN, I can only conclude that the majority of the Collective is now using WLAN.. It this a fair conclusion? (yes, a tin-hat question... :) ) I can confirm that with MAF enabled in my router, for wired-only clients, any client NOT listed will NEVER see the WWW through my router's current f/w... :) This sorta proves to me that the MAF does affect wired clients. :) So, I have 2 choices from what I've read from Greg/Brian/JRS/Gary/Rick/Bino: 1) Disable MAF---It is for WLAN ONLY. (even though my docs do NOT say this!) 2) Somehow try and figure out if MAF really does work on a Wired LAN... :) Oh, and should I ever dabbled in WLAN, I would ONLY use WPAto start with..! At 11:10 04/28/2009 -0500, you wrote: Ding ding. Disabling the SSID beacon and MAC filtering are utterly pointless. The six dumbest ways to secure a wireless LAN http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:47 AM To: hwg Cc: hwg Subject: Re: [H] MAC Address Filter Turning off the said broadcast doesn't really work. I'm pretty sure the ssid is in all the packet headers so anyone with a sniffer will still see it. Same thing with filtering by mac address - the allowed macs are in all the packet headers so all you have to do is sniff and then spoof your mac address. The only true security for wireles is WPA. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation Sent from my iPhone On 28-Apr-09, at 4:01 PM, Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com wrote: Two tips I have always heard for *wireless* networks, 1) Turn off SSID broadcasting and use a unique SSID. 2) If you have a static network ( meaning that you are not adding and deleting a lot of devices ) use Mac Address Filtering. As a former Network Admin, I have not encountered the use of Mac Address Filtering as a security method for wired networks, probably because keeping it up to date would be more of a pain then it is worth. If you have disabled the wireless side of your router, I don't think you need to worry about it as it isn't accessible. Regards.Gary At 12:21 PM 4/27/2009, It was written by DHSinclair that this shall come to pass: Bino, OK. I have back thru this whole thing. Thank you for your help, but I am still confused. I see nothing in my docs for the router that explicitly indicate that using MAF is truly for WLAN only. I will dig more later today. Anyway. I can confirm that if I now drop my current clients off the MAF, none of them will ever get thru the router to the WWW. This I have confirmed several times. And, I have re-confirmed that I have all WLAN business in the router disabled; I even left the external antennas in the box! Yes, there is a new f/w available for my router (v1.9). I currently use v1.8. I have read and re-read the release notes and do NOT see any patches/bug fixes for a Wired LAN. Everything I read is for WLAN and VPN tunnels. I use neither at all. So, I see little push to update the f/w of my router ATM. But, as you have mentioned some segregation between Wired and Wireless NOW in the MAF logic, I will now go back and dig deeper.perhaps I missed something. Not like this has ever happened before.. LOL! Still listening. Best, Duncan At 09:28 04/27/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ok, going inline with BG1 before my responses; the 1 is if we continue; then those will be BG2 and so on... ;) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:23 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] MAC Address Filter Bino, I gotta go inline below. At 15:32 04/24/2009 -0700, you wrote: According to the DGL-4300 manual (found the pdf online) the Filter
Re: [H] MAC Address Filter
Hi Duncan, We might be the last hold outs on wireless :-)Anyway, the last network class I took at the University I was attending ( about 2 years ago now ) one of the things talked about by the prof was that basically the point wasn't that wireless networking didn't always work well, but that it worked at all. There are so many things that can go wrong with it. I guess the thing that has always appealed to me with a wired network is that it has collision detection vs collision avoidance that wireless has to use. My vision is way to poor ( I have Macular Degeneration ) to use a laptop, so having a wired desktop pc is my best option. lol RegardsGary At 05:32 PM 4/29/2009, It was written by DHSinclair that this shall come to pass: Gary, Like you, I share both your age and home design choices. No harm! No Foul !!! I remain totally wired until someone can convince me otherwise. You have me 1-up! My LAN is CAT6 IS running down the hall between my GBit switches and router. One day, I may hire the contractor to put it in the walls. Some day soon. :) Thank you. I know someone else that at present does WIRED. I was beginning to think I may have become a last of a dying breedVery nice to know that Wired is NOT such a BAD thing!!! Best, Duncan At 07:17 04/29/2009 -0500, you wrote: When I had my house built, I was able to have the house wired for Internet use in each room. For me at least, and possibly I am showing my age, I am not a big fan of wireless. Yes, I know that it is the way things are moving, but for me anyway...I prefer a wired lan and probably will stay that way as much and for as long as possible. Gary P.S. As in all thingsYMMV;-) snip
Re: [H] MAC Address Filter
Two tips I have always heard for *wireless* networks, 1) Turn off SSID broadcasting and use a unique SSID. 2) If you have a static network ( meaning that you are not adding and deleting a lot of devices ) use Mac Address Filtering. As a former Network Admin, I have not encountered the use of Mac Address Filtering as a security method for wired networks, probably because keeping it up to date would be more of a pain then it is worth. If you have disabled the wireless side of your router, I don't think you need to worry about it as it isn't accessible. Regards.Gary At 12:21 PM 4/27/2009, It was written by DHSinclair that this shall come to pass: Bino, OK. I have back thru this whole thing. Thank you for your help, but I am still confused. I see nothing in my docs for the router that explicitly indicate that using MAF is truly for WLAN only. I will dig more later today. Anyway. I can confirm that if I now drop my current clients off the MAF, none of them will ever get thru the router to the WWW. This I have confirmed several times. And, I have re-confirmed that I have all WLAN business in the router disabled; I even left the external antennas in the box! Yes, there is a new f/w available for my router (v1.9). I currently use v1.8. I have read and re-read the release notes and do NOT see any patches/bug fixes for a Wired LAN. Everything I read is for WLAN and VPN tunnels. I use neither at all. So, I see little push to update the f/w of my router ATM. But, as you have mentioned some segregation between Wired and Wireless NOW in the MAF logic, I will now go back and dig deeper.perhaps I missed something. Not like this has ever happened before.. LOL! Still listening. Best, Duncan At 09:28 04/27/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ok, going inline with BG1 before my responses; the 1 is if we continue; then those will be BG2 and so on... ;) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:23 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] MAC Address Filter Bino, I gotta go inline below. At 15:32 04/24/2009 -0700, you wrote: According to the DGL-4300 manual (found the pdf online) the Filter settings section (Advanced - MAC Address Filter) lets you pick from filtering wireless and wired clients separate from each other p.39). OK. Fair. I will go back to the docs once again.. :) John is right that some routers usually only let you do it for wireless clients, but as it turns out yours definitely let's you do it for both. I am going to, ATM, trust you on this.. :) My router did/does NOT give me a choice between WLAN / LAN BG1 IF you have a DGL-4300, since I found the pdf manual online and it had a screenshot that clearly showed selecting b/w wireless and wired clients for the MAF, then either you have a different model which doesn't have it, or you need a firmware update to enable that. Oh and btw, your understanding of the MAF you wrote below is completely wrong (just fyi). OMG!!! Please enlighten What you described was NAT (Network Address Translation)-that's what takes the PCs on the private address space of your home network and translates them into the public IP that gives them access to the internet. And it's NOT 2-way; i.e. just b/c the PCs can access the internet, that doesn't mean that things on the internet can access your PCs. Thanks Bino. No. I do believe that NAT is THE clear concept here.. All my router's since 199x have use NAT. Perhaps NAT has changed... Perhaps I may dick with it a bit, but I do believe I know what NAT logic still purports to do..even with SPI now!!.. :) BG1 NAT for the most part is the same as it was since 1999 or so...so if you're clear on NAT and how it works and what it does, then you're fine. Just remember that it doesn't automatically allow inbound connections back to your PC (which is a good thing, b/c otherwise it'd be too easy to hack people) unless you specifically set that up (well, AFAIK; maybe some newer routers do this, but that would be a BAAAD thing to do by default w/o making you enable it first...JM2C there). So the MAF restricts who can get ONTO your network in the first place. Typically it's more interesting/useful for wireless networks since anyone can try and connect to your network that way, whereas it's a little harder for random people to get the physical access to plug a cable into your router/switch! ;) Yes, and this is why I still do NOT play Wire-less... :) BG1 Well, if you don't broadcast your SSID, and then use MAF on wireless, and uses WPA2-PSK and/or client certs, it's practically impossible to hack your wireless network and it's a lot more convenient than running cables, or if you have laptops. But YMMV. But you can also use it
Re: [H] CPU vs CPU
I play WoW a lot, and with the exception of the video card, I have a 8800GTS, my PC is very similar to yours. I play on Alexstrasza for what's it worth. I onlly mention the realm because I wouldn't be surprised if there was some variation between the servers. With that said, in my case, I have never thought WoW was all that CPU intensive. GPU, yes...CPU...not sure. I am getting frame rates in the 30 - 60 range in Dalaran. The few times I have been in 25 man Naxx, I think my rates were around 60. Since you have essentially reset your UI once, which as I am sure you know, that would be the first thing that Blizzard would ask you to do. I would check your video settings,One to check, is Shadow Quality, that can be low as can Player Texture. I noticed that when I turned OFF Vertical Synch, my frame rate doubled...but does tend to jump around a bit. If you get tearing then you could turn it back on. I run 2 monitors so I can play 2 toons at the same time, so I have Windowed Mode selected...I have no idea if that affects any frame issues, but you could experiment with that. Hope something in this helps, RegardsGary At 08:21 AM 4/25/2009, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Gary, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:21:12 AM, you wrote: Just as an experiment, try disabling all your addons and see what your frame rate is. That will give you a baseline that you can go forward from. Where do you feel your pc is lacking ? Regards.Gary Yeah I tried that written Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:17:44 PM by me: But that's not the weirdest part, I just loaded my toon with addons and with addons disabled - I saw maybe a 5 to 10 FPS increase going in modless. So... I dug deeper. I found out I still had Intel's speed stepping (or w/e it's called) enabled. So I turned that all of. See how I do now and get back to you. BTW, my issue is during raids I stutter sometimes and when everything is turned to low save for spell details and a little distance... that shouldn't happen. IMO. I really think I run pretty clean WoW. I mean, here's my mod list which we never have fully discussed: CTMOD (my main mod for alot of stuff inc UI) Deadly Boss Mods (raiding) DoTimer (Keep tracks of DoTs so I can keep them up) Item Rack * (Which I will lose once Blizz implements theirs) Movable Bags * ( Allows you to move bags around but i could lose it) Omen (Raiding - Threat) Quartz (Cast Bar/Latency - I could lose it though) Questhelper (Self Explanatory but this mod is a pig and it's disabled unless the toon is grinding - leveling up) Ratings Buster (Informational that adds Item value to loot and compares items vs in slot adds gems to figure out values - nice) Recount (It's a Damage meter - usually off unless we are learning a fight helps me benchmark my play) SCT SCTD * (Scrolling combat text - which has been implemented by Blizz but it's not as good as the original - still I could lose it) SimpleMiniMap (I mainly use it to allow me to drag down the minimap while I am mining herbing - to see where they are) SmartBuff / Smart Debuff (Handles buffing and rechecking buffs and I also use Debuff as raid frames and debuff removal) Off these mods only the ones with * have been outdated and continue to work - not sure if they will always be that way but I guess mod author won't update them to because they work fine. Sometimes they just update on major patches, etc. Either way I do not think they are impacting the gameplay. So right now I have between 9 and 10 MB of addon memory used. If Questhelper was on it would add another 6 or so easy but that ones a hog anyway. Otherwise only a few mods are close to 1MB mem usage themselves and the rest are far less then that. So, I don't feel the PC is lacking, it plays all my other games fine but when I play WoW (which is with out a doubt my number one game) during boss encounters in a 25 man I would/will sometimes skip and hiccup and it just makes me nuts. When it happens I start to wonder am I lowering my DEEPS because I am stuttering around? It's hard to react to stuff also when your skipping around too. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] CPU vs CPU
Just as an experiment, try disabling all your addons and see what your frame rate is. That will give you a baseline that you can go forward from. Where do you feel your pc is lacking ? Regards.Gary At 03:52 PM 4/23/2009, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Christopher, Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:45:03 PM, you wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, James Boswell wrote: What? World Of Warcraft should ABSOLUTELY FLY on a machine of that spec. Agreed. I've seen this with other's in my guild on wow. You need to prune some of your data files for your custom UI. Things like recap and the like will kill your performance if you don't clear the data. /recap reset (Command might have changed, but I bet that is the culprit. -- just get rid of your huge history files in your various mods.) You can also disable them one at a time until you find the problem mod and decide if you need it or not. Christopher Fisk Thanks James and Chris, I might just consider reloading WoW? It's the initial install when I built the system. Couple years ago. Lots of patches and updates. I should have considered that myself. I might trim up my mods a bit also I know I have a few that overlap functions. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
