Re: [H] Duncan
Yes we would all be interested in hearing from him again. On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:38:02 -0600, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: Any updates on Duncan? It's been a few weeks and was hoping to hear good news! On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Strength to Duncan family. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com wrote: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Browsers
I use Chrome myself and it's never given me any problems. Huge selection of addons too. On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:10:34 -0600, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 08:30 AM 14/02/2015, Steve Tomporowski wrote: What's the collective currently using for a browser? I'm currently using Waterfox (supposedly a speeded-up version of Firefox), but after the last update, it's giving me problems. I've upgraded my internet service to 100MB, but after just a few hours, Waterfox slows to a crawl and I only get the speed back up by closing it and reopening it. I'm assuming that straight Firefox will probably do the same, so I think I'll see how Chrome works out. I use Firefox. Chrome (once compromised) is way to much of a pain to fix, and I find it gets compromised more easily (based on computers I work) than Firefox does. Tomshardware tested all the browsers and picked Firefox as the best (speed/security) so I'm figure that's a decent backup to my choice. T -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Seasonic
Seasonic manufactures their own PSU's and they are OEM to many companies. Go to HardOCP and read the reviews on them. I hardly ever use any other brand and never had one go bad. Happy New Year collective. :) On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:07:12 -0600, FORC5 fuf...@cox.net wrote: I use and recommend them, have no empirical data but I did have to RMA one once and they handled the return very well. How a company handles returns is important, the one I returned pretty much was a premature failure. fp At 01:21 PM 1/7/2015, Thane Sherrington Poked the stick with: Am I right in remembering the Seasonic power supplies are good? Do they make all of them themselves, or are some rebadged? T Date: Wednesday, January 7th, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul. *** -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] 10 Flash Drives that will turn heads
Steampunk Starwars and Simpsons. I like the 1944 one made from a really old radio crystal. Happy Holidays to the collective. :) On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:05:18 -0600, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1325078_mc=NL_EET_EDT_EET_eelife_20141226cid=NL_EET_EDT_EET_eelife_20141226elq=66051782e60549ae9561ff8c8a21730aelqCampaignId=20937 -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Duncan
Get better Jim. On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:14:24 -0600, FORC5 fuf...@cox.net wrote: my good friend and compadre, get better. fp At 06:51 AM 11/22/2014, James Edwards Poked the stick with: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards Date: Saturday, November 22nd, 2014 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** It's not for you or I, Carruthers; nor for the regiment: it's for the Empire. *** -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] -OT- If you don't mind helping me out
Don't be silly dude, glad to help out. On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:32:54 -0500, Michael Resnick mike...@gmail.com wrote: Thane, Voted and gave Dempsey a +10. Regards, Mike At 06:43 PM 9/18/2014, Thane Sherrington wrote: I apologize in advance for this OT post, but it's sort of an experiment, so here goes. Our 19 year old cat passed away in the Spring, and my wife is trying to get her picture on the Jones Cola bottle. My brother, who considers himself a bit of a Facebook guru with a massive following offered to get votes for her. I figured I'd see hundreds of votes pour in, but I think she got about ten votes that way (she has 33 in total, and my wife already got between 15 and 25 just from friends she emailed directly). I'm wondering if a mailing list like this would have a bigger impact than Facebook, so if you have time, please drop a vote here: http://www.jonessoda.com/gallery/view.php?ID=1376609offset=1 If you are offended by this, please feel free to mock/flame me. :) T __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8237 - Release Date: 09/18/14 -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] New mobo woes no Newegg love
Fuck NewEgg piece of shit business that once cared for their customers. On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:44:51 -0500, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello strangers, Man I wish to be even 1/2 as active here as my 20's... That said I have a aggravating experience to share: So I order an Asus z97-a for my eldest's new box only to discover 2 RAM slots are dead. End result is I have like 8 bent pins on the CPU socket. Not mashed, squashed or otherwise an effect of down but more like bent 180deg backwards like spon face down then bent backwards. Now I, like the rest of us, have bent my share of CPU pins but sure as shit this was a genuine factory defect given the pattern method. Newegg takes it back on RMA only to return it back to me days later unrepaired.as customer damage Good news is it seems Google Trusted Stores was a worthwhile freebie checkbox. I tick it all the time after Newegg orders submit because GTS is sending full refund on a MC gift card! Oh and I got to keep the damaged mobo which otherwise works fine... Moral of the story is Newegg doesn't check box contents on the way out but they sure do at return! -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] about to give up
If there is some important info on there I understand why you are trying to save the patient. If not just clean slate the bitch. :) On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:33:12 -0500, FORC5 fuf...@cox.net wrote: been messing with this laptop way too long. Most junk cleaned, get a pop up once in awhile that eset nabs so not clean, CPU is running normal speed not full throttle but now the dam thing tells me I have permission to do anything. No programs will run. not sure if w7 will run on this, meets all specs but not sure about video specs. I may try that for grins, not sure if all the hardware will work. That's how it goes. time for the viking funeral. :'( fp Date: Sunday, August 3rd, 2014 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Government is the great fiction whereby everyone endeavors to live at the expense of everyone else *** -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Windows 9 Activation System Details Leaked
Thank goodness for Valve's Steam Linux support! Sticking with Win 7 for the foreseeable future. On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:22:51 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 08:20 AM 13/07/2014, Steve Tomporowski wrote: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-Activation-System-Details-Leaked-450005.shtml Again, Rumors, take it with a grain of salt, although the more draconian measures sound a lot like Microsoft. Jesus. So basically, let's make it harder for shops who want to setup a computer properly for an end user (since setting up a computer is virtually impossible for 95% of users out there). I'm getting very sick of MS's shit. MS Office 2013 activation is crap, and spreading this to Windows is just ridiculous. All because someone might cut into their massive profit. T -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] nVidia video card until
Upgrade to GTX 750 Ti because it's cheap frugal on trons and probably better than those 460's. Cheers! On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:31:26 -0500, joeu...@chronic.org wrote: No one? Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: [H] nVidia video card until From: joeu...@chronic.org Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 10:24 am To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com I have 2 - nVidia GTX 460's SLI'd on a Win7 x64 box. ASUS's included utility is kind of crappy. Anyone suggest something they use to trim down power use of the cards when your not gaming? More features - fine, but that's my main focus. Save power! Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[H] Fw: News
Hello! News: http://ittc-bdg.com/arm/view.php Stan Zaske
Re: [H] Mouses or Mice
I get well over a week on 1 AA battery. On 5/19/2010 11:34 AM, Alex wrote: You don't wear out normal alkaline batteries (let alone rechargeable lithium in some of these mice) in 8 hours of non-stop use. On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:02:41 -0400 (EDT), Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.net wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I think both MS and Logitech have mice that come with cradles that recharge the batteries. It is not uncommon for me to have an 8 hour gaming run... Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] Mouses or Mice
I've already answered this but maybe I wasn't definitive enough. No lag. Zero lag. I would be able to tell having gamed extensively with both wired and wireless. Never go back to wired. How's that? LOL On 5/19/2010 3:18 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Since I have found the drivers for my logitech mice, it's not much of an issue anymore. The question that still hasn't been definitively answered is lag. Sure, I know you can game with a cordless mouse, but how good is it? It seems to me that the MX518's are just a little bit slow (my reactions are not the best, so I need the mouse to respond). I've tried a Razer Lachesis, but the low profile is a bad angle for me and I end up with a sore hand after a couple of hours. Again corded. So is a cordless mouse as fast as, faster than, or almost as fast as a corded one? From what I've seen so far, the cordless mouse ranks as almost as fast Steve On 5/19/2010 1:02 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: I get well over a week on 1 AA battery. On 5/19/2010 11:34 AM, Alex wrote: You don't wear out normal alkaline batteries (let alone rechargeable lithium in some of these mice) in 8 hours of non-stop use. On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:02:41 -0400 (EDT), Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.net wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I think both MS and Logitech have mice that come with cradles that recharge the batteries. It is not uncommon for me to have an 8 hour gaming run... Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] Mouses or Mice
Don't need any real world numbers. Used a wired mouse with games for years and can tell you from extensive personal experience there is no difference. Batteries are another issue entirely but getting rid of the cord is worth it to me.. On 5/19/2010 4:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I have not be able to notice any lag in either a wireless keyboard or a mouse. While I dont' believe them to be faster than their corded equivalents, I'm also not convinced there should be a delay noticeable by a human being other than that produced by a weak signal. Signal strength can be managed by someone who is a serious gamer or just don't want to suffer from noticeable lag (everyone, would be my guess). As anyone done any real world testing of some kind to put some hard numbers on such issues? On 5/19/2010 5:02 PM, DSinc wrote: Steve, JMHO I see no reason to suspect that a cordless mouse/kgd could EVER outperform (speed-wise) a corded pair. I will defer if features are part of this ask, and, not respond further. Any/all cordless devices I have seen/tried (Logitech/MS/Saitek) until now still have some noticeable degree of LAG. The logic in them still takes extra time to do the do (their internal comm business/intfcs/drivers). I suppose in years to come this will perhaps go away. Like when corded stuff just plain goes away, I'm afraid (JMHO). USB/Bluetooth/WIFI seem to be the tech mavens of the transfer battles. I still sit with my corded stuff and watch the skirmishes. I am not convinced; and, I do not buy/use cordless mice/kbs. Just park me with the rest of the troglodytes. Best, Duncan On 05/19/2010 16:18, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Since I have found the drivers for my logitech mice, it's not much of an issue anymore. The question that still hasn't been definitively answered is lag. Sure, I know you can game with a cordless mouse, but how good is it? It seems to me that the MX518's are just a little bit slow (my reactions are not the best, so I need the mouse to respond). I've tried a Razer Lachesis, but the low profile is a bad angle for me and I end up with a sore hand after a couple of hours. Again corded. So is a cordless mouse as fast as, faster than, or almost as fast as a corded one? From what I've seen so far, the cordless mouse ranks as almost as fast Steve On 5/19/2010 1:02 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: I get well over a week on 1 AA battery. On 5/19/2010 11:34 AM, Alex wrote: You don't wear out normal alkaline batteries (let alone rechargeable lithium in some of these mice) in 8 hours of non-stop use. On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:02:41 -0400 (EDT), Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.net wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I think both MS and Logitech have mice that come with cradles that recharge the batteries. It is not uncommon for me to have an 8 hour gaming run... Christopher Fisk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 02:26:00
Re: [H] Mouses or Mice
Oh yeah, I couldn't live without my Logitech cordless mouse for gaming. It's very small, light and responsive. Cheap too.. On 5/18/2010 3:16 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: I've always used corded mice (mouses). The times I've tried cordless mice, I've found them heavy, slow, awkward and the rechargeable battery dies to quick. Maybe it was cheap mice. I need a new mouse, since Logitech apparently is not going to develop drivers for the MX500 series (MX518 to be specific) for Win7. Will cordless go for gaming? ThanksSteve
Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP
On 5/16/2010 12:46 PM, maccrawj wrote: No because just as back then I know of no benchmark that will exhaustively read all files to determine access times. It's not going to affect creating a new file reading it back unless the drive is so fragmented that 1000's of non-contiguous clusters get created by the test. Reading all the files before after is the only real test AFAIK and I've not done that. We all accept that copying 1TB of small files takes longer than 1TB in a single file due to seeks from directory to data back having impact. A single 1TB could still be slow if fragmentation forces seeks for sequential data reads of groups of clusters in butterfly-like pattern. The smaller those groups and the more they are spread out, the more cumulative time lost. It's only ms per seek but it does add up with the sheer number seeks inherent with reading more than a few KB casually. Now as to noticing, yes. Stalker:Call of Private is a streaming content game which loads massive amounts of data at load and good sized chunks while roaming around the Zone. Before defragmenting I was crashing constantly during the accesses or had massive stuttering. Despite the games other bugs these were the result of HDD data stalling just long enough to cause the VPU recovery watchdog to kick in (it's not happening under stress testing with FutureMark or other games, card is good). Valve's Steam has a built-in defrag function for similar reasons given the massive archives that make up their games. And on the flip side of that coin, I can't remember the number of times over the years when after defraging a hardrive a game got borked and had to be re-installed. Just sayin.. Now is the impact going to show enough for post defrag to be noticeable? Yes, I've never had a machine stay the same or get worse after a defrag and the menu popups are one of the 1st things to improve along with seeing the HDD light on for briefer pulses. Measurable? Maybe, with the right software. On 5/16/2010 5:40 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 06:21 AM 16/05/2010, maccrawj wrote: That and a serious defrag using MyDefrag. I've never seen Defrag have any impact on performance (and I did a lot of testing a few years back.) Do you have numbers showing any improvement? T
Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP
I should have been more clear. I'm a long time user of Diskeeper and it has a feature where it defrags in the background continuously and that is what I believe borked my games more than once over the years. I no longer use it unless I'm in the mood to defrag which I haven't for awhile. All the reviews show that there isn't a performance improvement. It's more of an aesthetics's kind of thing for me. On 5/17/2010 5:19 PM, maccrawj wrote: If you're borking HDD data doing a defrag, then you're doing something wrong! Like I said Valve is doing it witch steam content also. MyDefrag makes calls to MS' own defrag API and is highly scriptable which is why I'm using it. On 5/17/2010 7:14 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: snip And on the flip side of that coin, I can't remember the number of times over the years when after defraging a hardrive a game got borked and had to be re-installed. Just sayin.. snip
Re: [H] Vipre Antivirus
Microsoft MSE on my windows boxes but I like AVG as well. On 5/16/2010 4:25 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Anyone used this and how good is it? Need to get a new antivirus for my computer @ home.
Re: [H] Question on video card for HTPC
Nope, the extra memory is for the 3D textures I believe. On 5/14/2010 7:15 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:21 AM 13/05/2010, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: What you really need to do is ditch the card for something like a 5450 (full hd bitstream over hdmi, dxva h264) or a 4350 (lpcm over hdmi, basic bitstream and dxva). Better performance, reliable For HTPC use, is there any advantage in a 1GB card over a 512MB card? T
Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP
Yes sir, that program that will get rid of all the clutter is called Windows setup. LOL On 5/14/2010 3:32 PM, Veech wrote: Recently I ran a scan with AVP and saw thatr there were nearly 500,000 files scanned. Holy cow! I am on a mission to clean out all this clutter. Are there any programs that will help make the job easier?
Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP
Yeah actually I do. Of course it goes without saying that you need to backup your data first. On 5/14/2010 5:33 PM, Veech wrote: heh... umm.. do you mean fresh install of XP? - Original Message - From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 15:22 Subject: Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP Yes sir, that program that will get rid of all the clutter is called Windows setup. LOL On 5/14/2010 3:32 PM, Veech wrote: Recently I ran a scan with AVP and saw thatr there were nearly 500,000 files scanned. Holy cow! I am on a mission to clean out all this clutter. Are there any programs that will help make the job easier?
Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP
Yeah, I hear what you're saying about so many files needing to be backed up and the hassle involved. Just a suggestion and MS will allow as many re-installs as you'd care to make even with OEM copies of Windows. On 5/14/2010 6:15 PM, Veech wrote: I have so many files that I need to save, and some programs that I just don't want to hassle with reinstalling. Also, will M$ allow another XP reinstall, this would be my third? I use CCleaner for purging but I would like something that lists all files and identifies them by type, with an option to delete them. - Original Message - From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 15:39 Subject: Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP Yeah actually I do. Of course it goes without saying that you need to backup your data first. On 5/14/2010 5:33 PM, Veech wrote: heh... umm.. do you mean fresh install of XP? - Original Message - From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 15:22 Subject: Re: [H] Cleaning and purging clutter in XP Yes sir, that program that will get rid of all the clutter is called Windows setup. LOL On 5/14/2010 3:32 PM, Veech wrote: Recently I ran a scan with AVP and saw thatr there were nearly 500,000 files scanned. Holy cow! I am on a mission to clean out all this clutter. Are there any programs that will help make the job easier?
Re: [H] Open question?
What need for a laptop unless it's for business purposes and you need to go online periodically during the day when away from home? I can wait until I get back to my desktop. On 5/12/2010 9:36 PM, DSinc wrote: Michael, TNX. This seems to be a new norm. I don't do laptops yet. Duncan On 05/12/2010 20:13, Michael Resnick wrote: Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi. At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan __ NOD32 5110 (20100512) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin PS. Please note that I have switched to my GMAIL address - mike...@gmail.com Please update your email / address book / contact list accordingly. Thanks
Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?
I'm using 3.0.4 and I don't like it. I think the new directory structure in the left pane is a pain. My SPAM has increased exponentially in the past week or so as well. Anybody else seeing this? On 5/12/2010 2:49 PM, DSinc wrote: I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird. I still like it, sort of. Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM. I accept total fault now :( Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my learning curve. I have no other option! I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal! I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of these portals! Thank you. Best, D
Re: [H] Open question?
I will never go wireless. Ever! On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
[H] Any Handbrake users want to compare notes?
I'm largely ignorant of video encoding and curious about other Handbrake users and wanted to ask what you do when you copy/backup your movies to a server. Are you just copying the VIDEO_TS file and then playing it over the LAN or do you convert/compress it during the rip to conserve quality and save disk space? Do you use the pre-sets to convert to your favorite hand held device or use size, bit rate or constant quality? Do you have a minimum file size before you see a difference in quality? Appreciate your feedback. I tried something different today, by converting/compressing a 7.63 GB VIDEO_TS file from the hardrive (640 GB WD Black) instead of my 22x SATA optical drive (takes about 20 minutes just to get it on my hardrive for conversion). I crammed it down to 700 MB's (because I like the idea of being able to burn to a CD-R if I choose because they are so cheap). I used the Turbo First Pass to write the log file with the 2 pass method, h.264 codec/.m4v container. Using 6 cores the first pass ETA was 26+ minutes from optical and 16+ minutes from hardrive. Second pass ETA was about the same from optical and just over 14 minutes from hardrive with CPU usage jumping from half to almost 100% during the actual encoding. Then to see the difference extra cores make I went into Msconfig/Advanced Boot Options and disabled 2 cores, rebooted and ran the same experiment again with the same programs loaded giving it time to settle down. Everything started to fluctuate wildly with ETA between 14-27 minutes and CPU usage between 20-90% first pass log creation. 2nd pass ETA (100% CPU ) was also pretty bad and I'm sure I should have used a stop watch for an accurate time. Between bad ETA's and Vista's notorious disk I/O it was probably a bad experiment but I'm sure of 2 things. Everything happens faster from the hardrive with the more cores the merrier.
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
This box is running Vista not Win7 so the score only goes up to 5.9 tops. On 5/9/2010 11:33 PM, maccrawj wrote: 5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1. It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high side unless the GPU is not playing a role. On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance. CoolNQuiet is enabled and AMD Turbo Core may or may not work as I've not placed that big a load on it yet. I'm crunching down a 7.5 gig DVD movie to 700 MB's and it's ETA is 27 minutes. All 6 cores are being used and processor usage is around 50 %. Default vcore is 1.2750 at 2.8 GHz and I haven't tried overclocking because frankly I'm not interested. It's fast enough as it is but most people are reporting 4.2 GHz stable on air cooling with 1.5 or 1.55 volts. Real nice so far and I couldn't be more pleased. snip
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Sorry to hear about the break-in. Hope they catch those thieves. On 5/10/2010 1:03 PM, GPL wrote: You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL... I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I would still be crying if they took all that new stuff. The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process. What a nightmare. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: haha I WEI on your face On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote: He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build 5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1. It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high side unless the GPU is not playing a role. On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance. CoolNQuiet is enabled and AMD Turbo Core may or may not work as I've not placed that big a load on it yet. I'm crunching down a 7.5 gig DVD movie to 700 MB's and it's ETA is 27 minutes. All 6 cores are being used and processor usage is around 50 %. Default vcore is 1.2750 at 2.8 GHz and I haven't tried overclocking because frankly I'm not interested. It's fast enough as it is but most people are reporting 4.2 GHz stable on air cooling with 1.5 or 1.55 volts. Real nice so far and I couldn't be more pleased. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Whoops, forgot that movie is being done in 2 passes and the second pass also took about 26 minutes but my processor usage jumped way up to near 100% and my CPU heat is 47C. I'm going to try to undervolt it until it becomes unstable. Hopefully K10STAT will work as it still uses 4 P states like any other Phenom II going down to 800 MHz. On 5/9/2010 5:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance. CoolNQuiet is enabled and AMD Turbo Core may or may not work as I've not placed that big a load on it yet. I'm crunching down a 7.5 gig DVD movie to 700 MB's and it's ETA is 27 minutes. All 6 cores are being used and processor usage is around 50 %. Default vcore is 1.2750 at 2.8 GHz and I haven't tried overclocking because frankly I'm not interested. It's fast enough as it is but most people are reporting 4.2 GHz stable on air cooling with 1.5 or 1.55 volts. Real nice so far and I couldn't be more pleased. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I just bought one on Ebay minutes ago for $189 free shipping. A drop in solution with the F10 BIOS version on my Gigabyte mobo. Was really hoping to get it for less but oh well, them's the breaks.. On 5/3/2010 2:42 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high dollar setup I'm stoked.. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
[H] Newly arrived today, Phenom II X6 Thuban..
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL042710cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL042710-_-EMC-042710-Index-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19103849-L0A
Re: [H] Newly arrived today, Phenom II X6 Thuban..
Check your mobo's web site for the latest BIOS release and see if it supports the new CPU's. I need to do that myself this afternoon after work. NewEgg also has the 2.8 GHz version for $100 less.. On 4/27/2010 6:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Wow...so I should be able to pop out my PII-X4-BE and put this baby right in there, right? On 4/27/2010 7:44 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL042710cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL042710-_-EMC-042710-Index-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19103849-L0A No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2837 - Release Date: 04/26/10 14:27:00
Re: [H] 7-ZIP Question?
If he likes computer hardware I don't care if he's gay.. On 4/26/2010 8:47 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: Yeah basically Chris is Gay. :) On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 06:15:15PM -0700, maccrawj wrote: Other than RAR I do not know of a format 7Z doesn't write and frankly making RAR, Arj, Lzh, whatever files is not a real concern for me in this day age. On 4/26/2010 1:47 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, maccrawj wrote: Well 7z Zip have supplanted Rar as defacto standards for downloaded content with Zip as usual the most common. If it does Rar, Zip, adds better compressing 7z format, and incorporates all the positives / none of the negatives you mention then one would have to question why use use WinRAR at all? I can think of nothing I had to compromise switching from WinRar to 7Z. 7z doesn't support jar files from the specs. I've had to use it for that a few times recently, but it isn't heavy use for me, I could keep winzip around for that. A lot of the formats for 7z that winrar supports read and write are only read on 7z. (According to the spec page I read on it). I have not yet tried it though. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
You're seriously mistaken my friend. 600 watts is more than adequate for most builds and overkill in many cases. On 4/20/2010 2:29 AM, maccrawj wrote: Bullshit! 500-600 is just cutting it for MOST current cards combined with the potential needs of up to 6 hdd's modern mobo's are capable of never mind what other power hungry components are installed. * Don't skip on PSU brand or capacity, it saves no real money in the end. * Always lookup what ODM makes a given PSU * Read real reviews that stress test. On 4/19/2010 2:15 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: snip You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2 5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended). snip
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Yeah, I suppose Cooler Master is the same. Not all of their cases support that feature either.. On 4/18/2010 5:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I have that Antec p182. I can route cable behind the mobo with it. It's a good case, too. On 4/18/2010 2:12 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: The problem with the Antec cases I've seen are the inability to route cables behind the mobo for a cleaner look. Cooler Master allows for that and I greatly admire everything about my CM690 except the weight. On 4/18/2010 12:19 PM, GPL wrote: After some research, e-mail and forum discusions, and chatter over a few cold ones last evening I believe I will be going with one of the following: COOLER MASTER HAF 922, Antec Nine Hundred, or an Antec Three Hundred. Looking forward towards getting this case dilemna behind me and get into the fun stuff next, the cpu, video card, and MB. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM,tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I like the build quality of the haf. Then again, I'm still using a lian li v2000 I've had for almost 5 years now. That's good advice: a good case will last you though many builds Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: GPLhardwarelistrea...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:29:26 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS despite the price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the bottom that can be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a side 24cm fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to keep the video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do a whole lot either. The one thing I regret about the generation Armor I bought: lack of the bottom HDD/fan modules. Have considered many times dremeling my case to add them, just too much work ATM. A con for Armor+ is they a design change from open 11 bays exposed to 7+5 system where the bottom 5 bays are rotated sideways into a hdd cage. Yes it's expensive, has no PSU, etc... but you grab one when they're on sale only because they are well worth it over$100 cases! Surely similar great models exist from Cooler Master and the TT Element does look v-good IMHO also. Don't skimp on PSU rating or brand, go large reputable rather than listening chants of you don't need a700W PSU. On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, GPL wrote: Thanks for the help in the past here. Most recent build was 2007 where I started a similar post. You folks were helpful in building a PC that I am still gaming on today, with only a video card upgrade between now and then and that was due to failure after 2.5 years. This time around I need to start right from the chassis. Previous build I just re-used a metal Chieftec tower. This time around I need a whole new case because the PC in the Chieftec is going to get wiped and used for my wife. Here's a general idea of where the plan stands. A gaming/simulation PC that also does some video editing, mainly family HD recordings or gaming videos. It will do flight and racing simulations and I plan on doing 3 screens down the line. I've usually done Nvidia cards but this time around I plan on going ATI. I have no allegiance to either card company but very much want the option to run 3 screens and the ATI performance will be more than enough for me. I'm thinking ATI 5870 right now. I'm also thinking Intel i7 930 to 950 range depending on cost per performance. FIRST STEP, I need a case! I don't want anything too fancy. Spending big money on the case itself hurts. However I want something that gives me the room to build, and if need be later easily crossfire the ATI cards, and have adequate cooling. I've looked at a few. MY DILEMNA, I have a small open desk setup to the right of my main gaming office desk. I fit my Chieftec tower in there with clearance enough to keep the little keyboard tray to that desk. It fits 3 towers with ease. I use it to have my gaming PC, my kids PC, and a LAB/DUMMY PC. That way my legs are free of wires and heat while at the gaming PC desk. Width is no issue but height may be. It seems my Chieftec tower (WITH OUT FEET INSTALLED) stands at 20.5 inches. I can always remove that desk's keyboard tray, but I like it for neatness and my little kids have it at a good height but would prefer to keep it. Few full tower cases I've looked at: Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case HEIGHT: 21.5 inches Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z HEIGHT 21 inches Few mid tower cases I've looked at: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case HEIGHT: 19.5 inches (It fits!) COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body HEIGHT: 20.10 (It fits!) SO, the mid towers fit, the full towers are a tad too tall. Can anyone recommend another good gaming tower I can look
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
OCZ is a crapshoot as experienced by me with a serious incompatibility with my Gigabyte AMD 785 chipset mobo. That's both the 500 watt and 600 watt versions (I got so sick of RMA'ing those 3 times). That same OCZ Modstream works fine for some strange reason on my old Gigabyte 690G mobo. Go figure. Seasonic has never failed me and I've got 3 of them running right now. Active PFC, perfect compatibility with everything I've matched them with and the modular design keeps wire congestion to a minimum. You should be fine with 600 watts unless you plan on running 2 5870's or nVidia 480's (not recommended). Really unless you plan on running eyefinity 3x1 or a 30 monitor you'd find the best value in a 5850. You could always get another next year if games get much more demanding by then.. On 4/19/2010 10:52 AM, GPL wrote: I've decided on the COOLER MASTER for the case. Let's talk power supplies. I've run a corsair for some time now and its been great. What are your recommendations for a a gamer system that will possible have two video cards in the future, one to start, a bunch of usb flight and racing controllers, fans, and the typical peripherals. I rather have more power than not enough. I've always been a firm believer on having a quality power supply in my machines.
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
The problem with the Antec cases I've seen are the inability to route cables behind the mobo for a cleaner look. Cooler Master allows for that and I greatly admire everything about my CM690 except the weight. On 4/18/2010 12:19 PM, GPL wrote: After some research, e-mail and forum discusions, and chatter over a few cold ones last evening I believe I will be going with one of the following: COOLER MASTER HAF 922, Antec Nine Hundred, or an Antec Three Hundred. Looking forward towards getting this case dilemna behind me and get into the fun stuff next, the cpu, video card, and MB. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM,tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I like the build quality of the haf. Then again, I'm still using a lian li v2000 I've had for almost 5 years now. That's good advice: a good case will last you though many builds Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: GPLhardwarelistrea...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:29:26 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS despite the price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the bottom that can be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a side 24cm fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to keep the video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do a whole lot either. The one thing I regret about the generation Armor I bought: lack of the bottom HDD/fan modules. Have considered many times dremeling my case to add them, just too much work ATM. A con for Armor+ is they a design change from open 11 bays exposed to 7+5 system where the bottom 5 bays are rotated sideways into a hdd cage. Yes it's expensive, has no PSU, etc... but you grab one when they're on sale only because they are well worth it over$100 cases! Surely similar great models exist from Cooler Master and the TT Element does look v-good IMHO also. Don't skimp on PSU rating or brand, go large reputable rather than listening chants of you don't need a700W PSU. On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, GPL wrote: Thanks for the help in the past here. Most recent build was 2007 where I started a similar post. You folks were helpful in building a PC that I am still gaming on today, with only a video card upgrade between now and then and that was due to failure after 2.5 years. This time around I need to start right from the chassis. Previous build I just re-used a metal Chieftec tower. This time around I need a whole new case because the PC in the Chieftec is going to get wiped and used for my wife. Here's a general idea of where the plan stands. A gaming/simulation PC that also does some video editing, mainly family HD recordings or gaming videos. It will do flight and racing simulations and I plan on doing 3 screens down the line. I've usually done Nvidia cards but this time around I plan on going ATI. I have no allegiance to either card company but very much want the option to run 3 screens and the ATI performance will be more than enough for me. I'm thinking ATI 5870 right now. I'm also thinking Intel i7 930 to 950 range depending on cost per performance. FIRST STEP, I need a case! I don't want anything too fancy. Spending big money on the case itself hurts. However I want something that gives me the room to build, and if need be later easily crossfire the ATI cards, and have adequate cooling. I've looked at a few. MY DILEMNA, I have a small open desk setup to the right of my main gaming office desk. I fit my Chieftec tower in there with clearance enough to keep the little keyboard tray to that desk. It fits 3 towers with ease. I use it to have my gaming PC, my kids PC, and a LAB/DUMMY PC. That way my legs are free of wires and heat while at the gaming PC desk. Width is no issue but height may be. It seems my Chieftec tower (WITH OUT FEET INSTALLED) stands at 20.5 inches. I can always remove that desk's keyboard tray, but I like it for neatness and my little kids have it at a good height but would prefer to keep it. Few full tower cases I've looked at: Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case HEIGHT: 21.5 inches Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z HEIGHT 21 inches Few mid tower cases I've looked at: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case HEIGHT: 19.5 inches (It fits!) COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body HEIGHT: 20.10 (It fits!) SO, the mid towers fit, the full towers are a tad too tall. Can anyone recommend another good gaming tower I can look at? Or any suggestions regarding the search itself. I have not bought a new tower by itself since 2003. Appreciate any and all of your suggestions as I start putting together the parts of the next machine.
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
[Review] Cooler Master 690 II Plus http://www.techreaction.net/2010/04/14/review-cooler-master-690-ii-plus/ http://www.techreaction.net/2010/04/14/review-cooler-master-690-ii-plus/ On 4/18/2010 12:19 PM, GPL wrote: After some research, e-mail and forum discusions, and chatter over a few cold ones last evening I believe I will be going with one of the following: COOLER MASTER HAF 922, Antec Nine Hundred, or an Antec Three Hundred. Looking forward towards getting this case dilemna behind me and get into the fun stuff next, the cpu, video card, and MB. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM,tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I like the build quality of the haf. Then again, I'm still using a lian li v2000 I've had for almost 5 years now. That's good advice: a good case will last you though many builds Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: GPLhardwarelistrea...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:29:26 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build At the moment, I seem to be leaning towards the COOLER MASTER HAF 922. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Cooling wise from TT I still recommend the Armor+ VH6000BWS despite the price. Unlke the MX variant there is tray HDD modules at the bottom that can be replaced with 12/14cm fans, better than the Element there is a side 24cm fan *installed*. IMHO the side 24cm fan is not enough alone to keep the video cards card cage area cool enough, nor do the font 12cm's do a whole lot either. The one thing I regret about the generation Armor I bought: lack of the bottom HDD/fan modules. Have considered many times dremeling my case to add them, just too much work ATM. A con for Armor+ is they a design change from open 11 bays exposed to 7+5 system where the bottom 5 bays are rotated sideways into a hdd cage. Yes it's expensive, has no PSU, etc... but you grab one when they're on sale only because they are well worth it over$100 cases! Surely similar great models exist from Cooler Master and the TT Element does look v-good IMHO also. Don't skimp on PSU rating or brand, go large reputable rather than listening chants of you don't need a700W PSU. On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, GPL wrote: Thanks for the help in the past here. Most recent build was 2007 where I started a similar post. You folks were helpful in building a PC that I am still gaming on today, with only a video card upgrade between now and then and that was due to failure after 2.5 years. This time around I need to start right from the chassis. Previous build I just re-used a metal Chieftec tower. This time around I need a whole new case because the PC in the Chieftec is going to get wiped and used for my wife. Here's a general idea of where the plan stands. A gaming/simulation PC that also does some video editing, mainly family HD recordings or gaming videos. It will do flight and racing simulations and I plan on doing 3 screens down the line. I've usually done Nvidia cards but this time around I plan on going ATI. I have no allegiance to either card company but very much want the option to run 3 screens and the ATI performance will be more than enough for me. I'm thinking ATI 5870 right now. I'm also thinking Intel i7 930 to 950 range depending on cost per performance. FIRST STEP, I need a case! I don't want anything too fancy. Spending big money on the case itself hurts. However I want something that gives me the room to build, and if need be later easily crossfire the ATI cards, and have adequate cooling. I've looked at a few. MY DILEMNA, I have a small open desk setup to the right of my main gaming office desk. I fit my Chieftec tower in there with clearance enough to keep the little keyboard tray to that desk. It fits 3 towers with ease. I use it to have my gaming PC, my kids PC, and a LAB/DUMMY PC. That way my legs are free of wires and heat while at the gaming PC desk. Width is no issue but height may be. It seems my Chieftec tower (WITH OUT FEET INSTALLED) stands at 20.5 inches. I can always remove that desk's keyboard tray, but I like it for neatness and my little kids have it at a good height but would prefer to keep it. Few full tower cases I've looked at: Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case HEIGHT: 21.5 inches Thermaltake Element V VL20001W2Z HEIGHT 21 inches Few mid tower cases I've looked at: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case HEIGHT: 19.5 inches (It fits!) COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body HEIGHT: 20.10 (It fits!) SO, the mid towers fit, the full towers are a tad too tall. Can anyone recommend another good gaming tower I can look at? Or any suggestions regarding the search itself. I have not bought a new tower by itself since 2003. Appreciate any and all of your suggestions as I start putting together the parts of the next machine.
Re: [H] Video card suggestions please
Sounds like you have a more than adequate video card right now so why upgrade? You want an Nvidia solution then go with the 480 which is overkill in every way possible (heat, energy, noise etc.). AMD is a different matter entirely and Nvidia can claim fastest video card on the planet but it will take another die shrink to become competitive with Ati. Look for the 3rd or 4th quarter and Nvidia will have something worth your hard earned money. Of course, AMD will be coming out with new hardware by then as well. Poor Nvidia just can't seem to catch a break by spreading themselves too thinly with all their other projects.. On 4/6/2010 11:31 AM, Joe User wrote: Hello THG, A few years ago, with the help of some of you, I put together a game system which has served me well. I don't want to lay out for a new system this year, maybe in another year or so. I mainly play WoW and STO. However, I do play some Steam games, FPS, RTS, etc. I thought, I would purchase a new video card to boost performance - as the rest of the system seems to be serving me well. Here's what I have: WinXP Pro SP3 32 bit Intel E6850 (3 GHz) 4GB memory (I know XP limit) (3) WD 740 Raptors Gigabyte Intel P35 Chipset (P35-DS3P) Samsung 244T MSI ATI 1GB 4870 What would be a good card to go with for upgrade - strongly prefer a nVidia solution this time... I understand WoW is CPU limited but I think STO (my current addiction) could use a better card but the rest of my specs are good. (?) All advice is welcomed.
Re: [H] Old Floppy Drives-Closed
I just sold quantity 5 3.5 floppy drives on Ebay for $.50 plus shipping. Not really worth it but at least someone will get some use out of them and I don't have to suffer guilt throwing them into the land fill or letting them clutter up the place. I got my 1st PC in 1994 with a floppy drive and had my last PC with a floppy in 2010. Now what do I do with those disks that I have? LOL On 4/6/2010 6:47 PM, DSinc wrote: The Old Floppy Drive thread is now CLOSED. OK. I reply to my last receipt. Mark's. Thank you to Mark, Anthony, jmccraw, Steve, Bino, gibney, Rick Glazer, FORC5, JRS. Now have 2 USB floppy drives. All of you were so correct. Sorry I was so thick-headed.. :) Shocked how well they do business. I'll probably toss them in ~15yrs! Long live our LIST! TNX. I now have so much more stuff for my Big Red Trash Bin. LOL! (some drives, some disks, and, lots of cables!) It will be a really good Spring! Thank you, Duncan On 04/01/2010 11:28, Mark Dodge wrote: Ditto to the several hundred, I do not know why I'm still hanging on, even my three year old laptop doesn't have a floppy drive. Mark Dodge MD Computers Houston, TX -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Old Floppy Drives moved into a new house and just threw away several hundred floppies, some maybe even collectable ( old games like doom and Wolfenstein 3d) :'( fp At 09:31 AM 3/30/2010, DSinc Poked the stick with: Anthony, Yes, I saw this model and another model from Nippon Labs. Problem is that both of these still require the eide FD cable. Not completely usb. I am considering the Iomega Silver model, N82E16821108201, $34.99. I'd like NOT to try Sabrent or Rosewill again! Duncan On 03/30/2010 09:38, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: And then there is this on newegg: BYTECC BT-146 All-in-one Internal USB2.0 connector Card Reader w/ Floppy Drive - Retail Item #: N82E16820192022 On 3/29/2010 8:10 PM, DSinc wrote: Anthony, Yes, I do. I'd like to believe that there is really nothing I might ever need again, but, just do not know yet. I am still working to be Floppy-Free. USB floppy drive? Do tell :) Think that is what I now seek!!! LOL! Duncan On 03/29/2010 19:31, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You actually still have files saved on Floppies? None of my machines have floppies. Why not a USB floppy drive? On 3/29/2010 7:18 PM, DSinc wrote: I assume that old 3.5in 1.44MB floppy drives use the old eide interface. And, I am now noticing new m/b's that do not have a floppy connector. OK. I understand. Is there any kind of external conversion box (eide-usb) I can use to keep a NEW working Sony/TEAC 3.5in floppy drive around for some time. Yes, I do so know that I should have converted all my old floppies to usb sticks years ago. Fine. I'm late with this, also! Sue me! It seems that I am finding out what the life of Sony/TEAC floppy drives useful life may be. All mine are 12-15 (or more!) yrs old! Wondering? Duncan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2778 - Release Date: 03/29/10 14:32:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2778 - Release Date: 03/29/10 14:32:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2779 - Release Date: 03/29/10 23:32:00
Re: [H] oversized DVD
If you're looking for the least expensive media, just use Handbrake and specify the output at 700 MB's or less and burn to CD-Rom. The image quality is fine on my 24 monitor although probably more noticeable on a large screen. On 3/30/2010 8:37 PM, Richard Quilhot wrote: Why not burn on a dual layer dvd without compression? Richard E. Quilhot C.N.A. quilh...@gmail.com On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: I use these apps depending on the method needed to reducing space: 1. DvdShrink- great for simply encoding into smaller size, removing unneeded audio/subtitles, and minor savings from still images. 2. VobBlanker- Best bet for totally removing ADs and other space wasting junk. On 3/28/2010 8:34 PM, Winterlight wrote: I have a BBC series that, over a period of many years, I bought the DVDs for . Now I am backing them up by ripping them to iso files with DVD decryptor. Each DVD holds three to four episodes. The iso files are all between 5.7 - 7.7 GB in size. Is there an app that makes it easy to reduce the ISO and then burn to a DVD all at one go. thanks
Re: [H] Hey Bino your Logitech X-540 5.1 Speakers $74
Broken link Winterlight.. On 3/26/2010 4:44 AM, Winterlight wrote: Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Retail $73.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate Special savings, ends 3/29 http://tinyurl.com/create.php
Re: [H] ATI Radeon 5870 2GB 3X2 Eyefinity Gaming Experience
Come on Anthony, if you like to game and have the money a 3 monitor setup is the greatest single advancement since SLI and arguably better. The extra real estate on left and right sides means you can spend less time mousing back and forth getting caught off guard far less often in a first person shooter. Riding a bike is also very good advice but I prefer to run because it's more functional. 2 days ago I went for a 2.5 mile run and lift weights every day. Feel great and look good too.. On 3/26/2010 7:22 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: That setup is a monstrosity. The thought of grown men using something like that to play games is just sad. Go out and ride a bike or something. On 3/25/2010 11:16 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: Wow i'm not, it's beautiful other than the bezels! LCDs are cheap, Duncan :) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:18:50PM -0400, DSinc wrote: I am simply blown away that anyone would invest in a setup like this. Simply amazing! (but then I've bought 6 Harley's!) This has to be a differn't strokes moment! I must be just too old! Best, Duncan On 03/25/2010 15:22, Stan Zaske wrote: Thought this might interest some of you gamers out there. Seems that in a 3x2 monitor config, that middle horizontal bezel is seriously distracting. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/24/ati_radeon_5870_2gb_3x2_eyefinity_gaming_experience No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2768 - Release Date: 03/24/10 15:33:00
Re: [H] ATI Radeon 5870 2GB 3X2 Eyefinity Gaming Experience
Anthropologist's now believe that the length of our lower limbs is because we evolved to run. Running is a natural gait pattern while pedaling a mechanism is not. Therefore running is more functional. On 3/26/2010 11:31 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Nothing wrong with running or swimming and lifting weights is good! Not sure what you mean about running being more functional, though. On 3/26/2010 11:00 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Come on Anthony, if you like to game and have the money a 3 monitor setup is the greatest single advancement since SLI and arguably better. The extra real estate on left and right sides means you can spend less time mousing back and forth getting caught off guard far less often in a first person shooter. Riding a bike is also very good advice but I prefer to run because it's more functional. 2 days ago I went for a 2.5 mile run and lift weights every day. Feel great and look good too.. On 3/26/2010 7:22 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: That setup is a monstrosity. The thought of grown men using something like that to play games is just sad. Go out and ride a bike or something. On 3/25/2010 11:16 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: Wow i'm not, it's beautiful other than the bezels! LCDs are cheap, Duncan :) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:18:50PM -0400, DSinc wrote: I am simply blown away that anyone would invest in a setup like this. Simply amazing! (but then I've bought 6 Harley's!) This has to be a differn't strokes moment! I must be just too old! Best, Duncan On 03/25/2010 15:22, Stan Zaske wrote: Thought this might interest some of you gamers out there. Seems that in a 3x2 monitor config, that middle horizontal bezel is seriously distracting. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/24/ati_radeon_5870_2gb_3x2_eyefinity_gaming_experience No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2768 - Release Date: 03/24/10 15:33:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 03:33:00
[H] ATI Radeon 5870 2GB 3X2 Eyefinity Gaming Experience
Thought this might interest some of you gamers out there. Seems that in a 3x2 monitor config, that middle horizontal bezel is seriously distracting. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/24/ati_radeon_5870_2gb_3x2_eyefinity_gaming_experience
[H] Uningine Heaven 2.0 DX11 Benchmark released..
I downloaded it and uninstalled version 1.0 before installation. Using it at default settings and 1900x1200 resolution I benchmark'ed 23 FPS average with Tessellation and DX11 on my HD5770 video card. The graphics are astonishingly good and if Left4Dead 2 looked this nice it would be game of the year easily.
Re: [H] Testing Graphic Card Stability
Send it to me and I'll RMA it. LOL On 3/17/2010 11:21 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Day after day, I'm getting more and more confident that I indeed had a bad card. This card seems rock solid, even though the driver may be not be perfect (not that I've noticed any problems, mind you). I'm not looking forward to trying to convince HIS that I have a bad card and to issue me an RMA. The pain of that process almost makes me just want to take the losssad I know...but pain is pain. On 3/16/2010 11:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Furmark is the one all the hardware enthusiast use and it has a benchmark/Stability test modes that will tell you if your card is stable or not. I suspect your HIS is bad and needs an RMA. On 3/15/2010 9:35 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Ok I had a HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 in this system. Tried all drivers available, using driver cleaner to remove previous drivers, etc, yet the same result persisted: Crashing.. Yesterday, my PC reboot several times during the day. On some days, it doesn't do that. I just loaded in A Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 in thsi system. While these cards are basically the same, performance wise, they boards are different as this one has to DVI ports on it while the other other only had one. Thus, the layouts of the boards are very different (I didn't want to risk getting the exact same board for fear of some fundamental problem in the board design from HIS or ATI). So far, and not much time has gone by since I just installed this board a couple of hours ago, things seem to be working. WEI works as done some program I got called Performance Test. My question is what software can I use the drive this video card in a loop to see if it really works or not? Or, am I going to have to see here and wait for a crash? Thanks. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.790 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2750 - Release Date: 03/16/10 03:33:00
Re: [H] Testing Graphic Card Stability
Furmark is the one all the hardware enthusiast use and it has a benchmark/Stability test modes that will tell you if your card is stable or not. I suspect your HIS is bad and needs an RMA. On 3/15/2010 9:35 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Ok I had a HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 in this system. Tried all drivers available, using driver cleaner to remove previous drivers, etc, yet the same result persisted: Crashing.. Yesterday, my PC reboot several times during the day. On some days, it doesn't do that. I just loaded in A Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 in thsi system. While these cards are basically the same, performance wise, they boards are different as this one has to DVI ports on it while the other other only had one. Thus, the layouts of the boards are very different (I didn't want to risk getting the exact same board for fear of some fundamental problem in the board design from HIS or ATI). So far, and not much time has gone by since I just installed this board a couple of hours ago, things seem to be working. WEI works as done some program I got called Performance Test. My question is what software can I use the drive this video card in a loop to see if it really works or not? Or, am I going to have to see here and wait for a crash? Thanks.
[H] AMD's ATI 10.3a Catalyst Driver Update
An interesting short article on a new driver set to be released the 17th. http://hardocp.com/article/2010/03/16/amds_ati_103a_catalyst_driver_update
Re: [H] Testing Graphic Card Stability
Hey, hey, hey.. Tone it down a little Anthony, you're starting to sound like an AMD fanboy.. :-) Here's a link you might like if you ever decide to REALLY step up. And no, this is WAY beyond me or my budget.. :'( http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/14/first_time_gaming_experience_ati_eyefinity On 3/16/2010 2:47 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Well, furmark is liking this vidcard as it runs for hours and hours with nary a problemfeature set maxed out to yield 22 fps with max temp of 82degC. On 3/16/2010 11:38 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Furmark is the one all the hardware enthusiast use and it has a benchmark/Stability test modes that will tell you if your card is stable or not. I suspect your HIS is bad and needs an RMA. On 3/15/2010 9:35 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Ok I had a HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 in this system. Tried all drivers available, using driver cleaner to remove previous drivers, etc, yet the same result persisted: Crashing.. Yesterday, my PC reboot several times during the day. On some days, it doesn't do that. I just loaded in A Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 in thsi system. While these cards are basically the same, performance wise, they boards are different as this one has to DVI ports on it while the other other only had one. Thus, the layouts of the boards are very different (I didn't want to risk getting the exact same board for fear of some fundamental problem in the board design from HIS or ATI). So far, and not much time has gone by since I just installed this board a couple of hours ago, things seem to be working. WEI works as done some program I got called Performance Test. My question is what software can I use the drive this video card in a loop to see if it really works or not? Or, am I going to have to see here and wait for a crash? Thanks. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.790 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2750 - Release Date: 03/16/10 03:33:00
Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications
That's a fantastic result and makes my mouth water. On 3/11/2010 5:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Got my new modem today...surfboard sb6120docsis 3.0 Using my old docsis 2.0 modem, my download speed was 14Mbps with upload speed of 1.8Mbps... Using the new dossis 3.0 modem, my download speed is 26.2 Mbps with upload speed of 3.1 Mbps. Wow...dang...woW. On 3/7/2010 8:52 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: I just kept what I had, which is the basic overpriced service. They claim they give 12MB with the basic one, but I've never seen it, and don't know anyone who has except one guy in California who is in one of my vets groups. He, also, has the basic service(first level, I guess). He has Comcast's rental modem, which is ver. 3.0. Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications Jeff, when you installed that DOCSIS 3.0 modem did you upgrade your Internet speed plan or are you saying you just got a speed boost with existing service. On 3/7/2010 3:12 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: To my knowledge there are only the ones, whatever that is, and the Motorola, available at this time. I have the Motorola and it has worked flawlessly, so far. I had the same modem as yours for years, as well, however, when I put the ver. 3.0 on line it gave a noticeable speed increase with Comcast. I've had it online for about 3 months now. Jeff Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications I just noticed that this is one of the two modems that charter supports. Given that they are willing to sell me this modem, I don't see there ever being an issue with tech support, though I can't see why I would ever need it. :) On 3/7/2010 8:55 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Other considerations? None that I can see. I don't need tech support. They want $5 per month for rental. I've had my current modem for years. They actually site buying a modem as an option. On 3/7/2010 7:39 AM, Al Anger wrote: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Motorola SB6120 SURFboard DOCSIS 3.0 eXtreme Broadband Cable Modem for $85.00. Is this a good one? Are there other considerations for you? If you're having trouble, they won't offer tech support unless you are using something they supply. I know it's mostly an exercise in futility for most people on this list to call tech support. :) Just out of curiosity, how much is the rental charge? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2729 - Release Date: 03/07/10 14:34:00
Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications
My Motorola cable modem is about 6 years old if not older. Might be time for an upgrade and I have Comcast overpriced service as well. Thanks for the info. On 3/7/2010 7:52 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: I just kept what I had, which is the basic overpriced service. They claim they give 12MB with the basic one, but I've never seen it, and don't know anyone who has except one guy in California who is in one of my vets groups. He, also, has the basic service(first level, I guess). He has Comcast's rental modem, which is ver. 3.0. Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications Jeff, when you installed that DOCSIS 3.0 modem did you upgrade your Internet speed plan or are you saying you just got a speed boost with existing service. On 3/7/2010 3:12 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: To my knowledge there are only the ones, whatever that is, and the Motorola, available at this time. I have the Motorola and it has worked flawlessly, so far. I had the same modem as yours for years, as well, however, when I put the ver. 3.0 on line it gave a noticeable speed increase with Comcast. I've had it online for about 3 months now. Jeff Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications I just noticed that this is one of the two modems that charter supports. Given that they are willing to sell me this modem, I don't see there ever being an issue with tech support, though I can't see why I would ever need it. :) On 3/7/2010 8:55 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Other considerations? None that I can see. I don't need tech support. They want $5 per month for rental. I've had my current modem for years. They actually site buying a modem as an option. On 3/7/2010 7:39 AM, Al Anger wrote: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Motorola SB6120 SURFboard DOCSIS 3.0 eXtreme Broadband Cable Modem for $85.00. Is this a good one? Are there other considerations for you? If you're having trouble, they won't offer tech support unless you are using something they supply. I know it's mostly an exercise in futility for most people on this list to call tech support. :) Just out of curiosity, how much is the rental charge?
Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications
Jeff, when you installed that DOCSIS 3.0 modem did you upgrade your Internet speed plan or are you saying you just got a speed boost with existing service. On 3/7/2010 3:12 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: To my knowledge there are only the ones, whatever that is, and the Motorola, available at this time. I have the Motorola and it has worked flawlessly, so far. I had the same modem as yours for years, as well, however, when I put the ver. 3.0 on line it gave a noticeable speed increase with Comcast. I've had it online for about 3 months now. Jeff Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [H] DOCSIS 3.0 - Charter Communications I just noticed that this is one of the two modems that charter supports. Given that they are willing to sell me this modem, I don't see there ever being an issue with tech support, though I can't see why I would ever need it. :) On 3/7/2010 8:55 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Other considerations? None that I can see. I don't need tech support. They want $5 per month for rental. I've had my current modem for years. They actually site buying a modem as an option. On 3/7/2010 7:39 AM, Al Anger wrote: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Motorola SB6120 SURFboard DOCSIS 3.0 eXtreme Broadband Cable Modem for $85.00. Is this a good one? Are there other considerations for you? If you're having trouble, they won't offer tech support unless you are using something they supply. I know it's mostly an exercise in futility for most people on this list to call tech support. :) Just out of curiosity, how much is the rental charge?
[H] ForceWare 196.75 Can Kill Your GeForce Card!!!
My 9600 GSO has been using this driver without issue and yes my fan is spinning fine fold...@home 59C. Vista Home Premium X64. NVIDIA has removed the latest ForceWare 196.75 from their servers because this driver has an important bug: it prevents the fan from spinning and caused a death of multiple graphics cards around the world. G92-based graphics cards (GeForce 9800GT, 9800GTX and GTS 250) seem to be very affected by this bug. I currently use this driver on a EVGA GTX 295 / Win7 64-bit without issue. So in case of doubt, NVIDIA recommend to use ForceWare 196.21. But this driver has a bug and prevents the overclocking of GPU So the recommended driver is the ForceWare 196.34.
Re: [H] WARNING! NVIDIA 196.75 drivers can kill your graphics card
I have to say that if my card had died because of this new driver I'd have been very upset. But it's been running just fine. I thought at first there must be some mistake but I went to the web site and sure enough they had pulled it. Guess that means there will be another new driver to download early next week after they correct their mistake. Man, Nvidia needs to wake up and focus better on their core business. On 3/5/2010 1:29 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: This is what we get when we only have two sources of video card chipsets: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7551tag=nl.e539
Re: [H] [Bulk] If you own a PS3 and it connects to the net DO NOT TURN ON
Well first of all I only meant to post some general info to anybody interested or anybody who has a PS3. I didn't start the thread I just chimed in on what I had been reading on Twitter. I don't own a PS3 and haven't got the slightest interest in getting one. My Xbox 360 just sits gathering dust because I greatly prefer to game on my PC. Must have a lot of time on your hands to write that much about your concerns. On 3/4/2010 11:22 AM, maccrawj wrote: Gee do you work for their PR dept? LOL! That's about as specific as I was sick due to a an illness but I am now better. The questions are: 1. what was CAUSED the bug? 2. what REACTED to it? 3. FIXED or can it happen again next year? Cause seems to be speculated on hardware. No firmware update has been released to fix that. If the hardware clock and the OS software clock had a falling out, then firmware update is definitely in the works. Blaming it on the clock chip could me need to RMA millions of units for a clock chip swap and I don't see Sony owning up to that! Reaction seemed to be the even without network access, powering up an affected model would cause an issue. I honestly have not read that far into the limited info but I was learning more towards problem being once the out of sync consoles tried to login to PSN domino effect bug was it simply crashed on the erronious datestamp from the affected consoles kicking them offline. Fixed or did they just wait 24hrs so that the units to naturally roll over to a sane but wrong date for 2010 then resync them? Why couldn't users simply use Date Time settings to change the clock to another day? Ultimately it means the issue could still exist in 2014 and could be one for real leap year 2012. I'll speculate that if you set the clock by hand to 2/28/2010 23:59:00 with no network connectivity and then wait that the problem will start all over again since there has been no firmware update. Funny thing is that not at fat model revisions are affected and Sony TS lied all day about PSN being offline despite late rev fats all slims being online playing games, etc... during the supposed network down time. On 3/2/2010 9:48 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Sony's problem was about a non-existent leap year Feb. 29th which has now passed. On 3/2/2010 10:41 AM, maccrawj wrote: I've been hearing it has nothing to do with network connecting everything to do with firmware bug hardware revisions older than the last 80GB fat/pre-slim models. That is to say the connecting part is domino effect to the actual problem rather than the source. This scream loudly that all DRM measures to prevent save game backup inter-account movement of those backups should be removed and a secure method (sony encrypted archive for example) of allowing local backup/restore of trophies just in case both the console AND the network loose the data. Not too mention if it's not a it just works bonehead console that never has issues, there has to be logs diagnostic methods exposed, but of course Sony is too busy with DRM to worry about giving the customer what they paid for! Sony stock actually finished up Monday, surprising. On 3/1/2010 1:38 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Yeah, I read about it on Twitter and apparently the PS3 forum members are up in arms about it. On 3/1/2010 2:53 PM, CW wrote: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1073007p1.html Sony has bricked their PSN Network. Talk about screwup on a mammoth scale. If your PS3 connects, you'll lose all your trophies, save points, and oh yes the ability to get online. Great! Sony expects a solution in 24 hours.
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
Well, I was depending on memory and as my memory serves Riva128 was the first with integrated 3D graphics. That was many years ago and if I am mistaken forgive me. I haven't Google'd it. On 3/4/2010 2:18 PM, maccrawj wrote: Ah, ok! Rendition Vertite, Nvidia TNT, ATI Rage 128, 3dfx Voodoo3 in rapid succession over the 2 years 1997-1998 is the time line for 2D+3D integrated cards I believe? Amazing how far things have come! On 3/2/2010 9:46 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: I was referring to Nvidia being first to engineer integrated 3D graphics. 2D graphics are the simple task of a video card by comparison. 3D graphics advancements drive video card development. And rapidly at that.. On 3/2/2010 10:19 AM, maccrawj wrote: ATi was in the graphics game a long before nVidia going way back to the EGA standard PC XT/AT systems. Did I miss something about your statement or do you miss that?
Re: [H] Windows 7 environment variables
So am I confused, that you're still using batch files. Written anything in BASIC lately? No offense, just couldn't resist. LOL On 3/4/2010 2:42 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 04:29 PM 3/4/2010, Thane Sherrington wrote: I have a little batch file that uses %username% to do some stuff. That works fine in Windows XP and Vista, but in 7, it becomes username-PC$ - so if the username is Fred, %username% is Fred in XP and Fred-PC$ in 7. Of course, that breaks the batch file. Am I doing something wrong or did MS really change this? Interesting. Just checked on another 7 machine (this one 7 Ultimate instead of 7 Home Premium) and it shows the variable normally. Now I'm really confused. T
Re: [H] [Bulk] If you own a PS3 and it connects to the net DO NOT TURN ON
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/blog-post/1594564/armageddon-ps3-consoles AFTER TWO DAYS of PS3 fanbois crying over broken units it looks like the cause of the network glitch has been found, thanks to PS3 users on the #Efnet IRC network and not Sony. Eurogamer reported yesterday that the fault, which denied PS3 users access to the Playstation Network (PSN) and corrupted trophy settings, was down to an ARM Syscon processor. The only job the processor had to do was work our how to process a leap year and it failed spectacularly. Apparently the same chip was responsible for dazed and confused hardware failures in Zune players and limited numbers of Blackberry devices were also afflicted. On 3/2/2010 10:45 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: Sony said earlier this morning that the issue has been fixed and there is a chance users can get their trophy data back: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/01/ps3-clock-bug-apparently-squashed-games-are-playable/2 --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: I've been hearing it has nothing to do with network connecting everything to do with firmware bug hardware revisions older than the last 80GB fat/pre-slim models. That is to say the connecting part is domino effect to the actual problem rather than the source. This scream loudly that all DRM measures to prevent save game backup inter-account movement of those backups should be removed and a secure method (sony encrypted archive for example) of allowing local backup/restore of trophies just in case both the console AND the network loose the data. Not too mention if it's not a it just works bonehead console that never has issues, there has to be logs diagnostic methods exposed, but of course Sony is too busy with DRM to worry about giving the customer what they paid for! Sony stock actually finished up Monday, surprising. On 3/1/2010 1:38 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Yeah, I read about it on Twitter and apparently the PS3 forum members are up in arms about it. On 3/1/2010 2:53 PM, CW wrote: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1073007p1.html Sony has bricked their PSN Network. Talk about screwup on a mammoth scale. If your PS3 connects, you'll lose all your trophies, save points, and oh yes the ability to get online. Great! Sony expects a solution in 24 hours.
Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
I bought a PowerColor Radeon HD5770 couple months back and it's been great.. On 3/3/2010 3:20 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What card should I get to replace this HIS Radeon HD5770? Another brand of the same card? I can't deal with the crashing. On 3/2/2010 2:02 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I know for sure that I have the latest mobo biosand I just found this comment on newegg (posted on 2/26/2010): *Pros:* It's not HERS? *Cons:* Anytime I boot up a game, 15 minutes later it crashes (or if I'm lucky and if all the graphics are on low, it'll just be choppy as h*ll) Went to RMA it, than found out there was a 2-4 week turn around time (with more than one(hundred) people online saying they've been waiting 5 weeks+ for it. I put my old video card into a build I was doing for someone else at the time, so even 2 weeks without my main computer is a bad thing, let alone 5. *Other Thoughts:* It still runs everything but games, but flash chops up every 10 seconds or so, barely noticeable, but it gets annoying after a while. Also, it gets 3k below the average score for the video card in Vantage... What on Earth did they do to my card? But definitly not buys from HIS again. I'd go $10 and get the SAPHIRE anytime. I haven't been playing any games...only running the screen saver and Aeroyet the graphic card would crash (stating a problem with the driver). I guess I should try some kind of game that really drives the card...because I haven't done that. Other than Aero, this card should be totally cool. WEI is the only thing I have run on this puppy...and I ordered it on Jan 14. Looks like I'm going to take it hard on this one I can try removing the heatsink...before I toss it. I ought to give newegg some hassle about this, though. On 3/2/2010 1:29 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:11 PM 3/2/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Thane, I can't download your reply for some reason...but I can read it on my phone...I have revision 2.0 of the P35-DS4 mobo. Thanks. Well, assuming you have the latest BIOS and chipset drivers, then I think you have a bad card. One thing you could try (if you can't return it) is to take off the heatsink and replace the thermal compound. I've resurrected a couple of video cards that way - they would crash even when they were only on for a few minutes. T On 3/2/2010 12:07 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Thane, Which chipset do you refer to? I have a HIS Radeon HD5770. I've only had this card for about 2 months and frankly, it's been a bit of a problem from the getgothe mobo is a Gigabyte P35-DS4. I've run WEI plenty of times...even with this card, mind you. I think I was using the 9.x driver and it worked fine thengiving a 7.4 on the WEI. Only after I went to this 10.2 driver (in either form) did the crashing of WEI start. On 3/2/2010 11:55 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 12:44 PM 3/2/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the ATI drivers from my system. then I went back and installed the ATI 10.2 CCC drivers. The good news is I could actually see and open CCC and the ATI folder from the program menu. This is one thing I could not do previously as the drivers software didn't install correctly. So, I can say from this taht Driver Cleaner actually helped out. However, with the ATI 10.2 CCC and drivers loaded, Windows Experience Index crashes the computer. Now, I don't think this is some kind of litmus test or anything, but that is a basic app built into Win7...it doesn't seem right that it just completely crashes my system to a black screen. Then you either have a bad card, or some sort of Windows corruption. I run the WEI on all our machines and have never had it crash (on any card.) What chipset do you have? T No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
My experience with Sapphire RMA process was very fast. Guess it just depends.. On 3/3/2010 5:08 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:20 AM 3/3/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What card should I get to replace this HIS Radeon HD5770? Another brand of the same card? I can't deal with the crashing. I've had very good luck with Sapphire reliability wise, but the one card I did have a bad fan on, it took forever to get replaced. T
Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
Are you sure that LOTR screen saver came with CCC? I don't have it and didn't see it listed during install. On 3/3/2010 5:53 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: BTW, After I removed the 10.2 CCC drivers and installed just the 10.2 driver. WEI ran without a hitch. I thought I was home free, but now the PC crashes whenever it turns on the screen saver. With the CCC drivers, was actually able to play a bit of Lord of the Rings freebee that comes with the CCC drivers. I had it running at 1920x1024...but it had glitches and finally crashed on me. On 3/3/2010 6:08 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:20 AM 3/3/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What card should I get to replace this HIS Radeon HD5770? Another brand of the same card? I can't deal with the crashing. I've had very good luck with Sapphire reliability wise, but the one card I did have a bad fan on, it took forever to get replaced. T No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2717 - Release Date: 03/01/10 14:34:00
Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
That's an oddball resolution for a 23 monitor. The ones I've looked at were 1920x1080. On 3/3/2010 2:25 PM, Steve wrote: I've got one, driving 2 x Dell 23 @ 2048x1152 without issue. -- From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:45 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions What do you guys think about XFX HD5770? I have one of their nVidia cards before. It wouldn't drive two monitors without some issue...and XFX wanted me to return it (and have nothing in the meantime) and I refused. But for a single monitor, it works fine and it is in my second PC. With that card, comes a free game, which is why I'm thinking of it. My plan is to try to return the HIS for RMA and wait out the return...then I can move it into my office system, if it works. Right now, I'm sort of gun shy on vid cards __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4913 (20100303) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
That's what I thought, Eyefinity would have been 4096X1152.. On 3/3/2010 3:11 PM, Steve wrote: Dell SP2309W's with a native resolution of 248 x 1152. And yeah... just a little oddball, but sweet monitors, especially for the price. -- From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:52 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions At 12:49 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote: That's an oddball resolution for a 23 monitor. The ones I've looked at were 1920x1080. He is doing a wide screen two monitors combined at one resolution. On 3/3/2010 2:25 PM, Steve wrote: I've got one, driving 2 x Dell 23 @ 2048x1152 without issue. -- From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:45 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacement Card - was Re: ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions What do you guys think about XFX HD5770? I have one of their nVidia cards before. It wouldn't drive two monitors without some issue...and XFX wanted me to return it (and have nothing in the meantime) and I refused. But for a single monitor, it works fine and it is in my second PC. With that card, comes a free game, which is why I'm thinking of it. My plan is to try to return the HIS for RMA and wait out the return...then I can move it into my office system, if it works. Right now, I'm sort of gun shy on vid cards __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4913 (20100303) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4913 (20100303) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4913 (20100303) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
On 3/2/2010 6:20 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: I am not pissed at nVidia, I do however feel some of their marketing tactics are devious and under-handedbut that's not what we are talking about here.we are talking mainly the technical POV. As someone who owns: 2 x 7800GT 1 x 8800GTX 1 x GTS250 1 x 4870x2 1 x 5870 And previously owned: X800GTO, 6600GT, 9700Pro, Ti4800, Ti4400, GF2 GTS, GF256, TNT2, TNT, Voodoo3etc .you could say I am more pro-nVidia then AMD.but even that would be drawing incorrect conclusions ;) And how does a 13 year old gfx card design have any bearing on what is produced today? How can you think that because nVidia have been in the game longer, they have the most experience? Surely, we are talking about the experience of the designers and programmers herethe guys that keep moving from one company to another and the guys who stagnate with ideas while fresher designers and programmers with much less experience produce the goods elsewhere.and this is why Fermi seems like it's going to be a really poor chip. Bad design choices made by a supposedly experienced engineer. I am not trying to be an asshat here, just trying to educate. I see way too much hate and fanboyism on the net these days and all it does is reduce your choice for no good reason.and at the same time you are tarring others with your claims that nVidia are the best.doing them no favours either. Regards Jason -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 01 March 2010 21:36 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. My first Nvidia card was a Riva 128 which as you may remember was THE 1st 3D integrated video card ever sold and I stand by my opinion. As I said, when Nvidia diversified into their 1st chipsets they bled their video card driver efforts into other ventures. Clearly you're pissed at the company and I understand. Their upper management who CONTROL the software engineers are asshats for sure. They still have the best talent in the industry IMHO because they clearly have the MOST experience at it. On 3/1/2010 10:58 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: That makes no sense.you are blaming hardware designers and bean counters for poor programming. nVidias driver creators were ABYSMAL for 2 solid years and I have still seen nothing since the first properly working Vista driver that has made me go wow, excellent work..so 3 years + of creating barely stable drivers and you still want to argue they are the best driver engineers? 0_o I would sure like to see the evidence of your claim.because from where I have been sat these last few years, I have seen something completely different! And that's only the purely technical POV.all before we talk about the under-handed tactics they have done with disabling driver features when they detect there is an AMD card in the system also This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
For the record, I'm AMD/Ati all the way but could hardly be called a fanboy either. My main box has an ASUS Geforce 9600 GSO (the version with the 192 bit memory bus and 96 shaders) which I use for folding purposes. I've installed each and every updated driver that comes out and have had no difficulties. Go figure. On 3/2/2010 6:20 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: I am not pissed at nVidia, I do however feel some of their marketing tactics are devious and under-handedbut that's not what we are talking about here.we are talking mainly the technical POV. As someone who owns: 2 x 7800GT 1 x 8800GTX 1 x GTS250 1 x 4870x2 1 x 5870 And previously owned: X800GTO, 6600GT, 9700Pro, Ti4800, Ti4400, GF2 GTS, GF256, TNT2, TNT, Voodoo3etc .you could say I am more pro-nVidia then AMD.but even that would be drawing incorrect conclusions ;) And how does a 13 year old gfx card design have any bearing on what is produced today? How can you think that because nVidia have been in the game longer, they have the most experience? Surely, we are talking about the experience of the designers and programmers herethe guys that keep moving from one company to another and the guys who stagnate with ideas while fresher designers and programmers with much less experience produce the goods elsewhere.and this is why Fermi seems like it's going to be a really poor chip. Bad design choices made by a supposedly experienced engineer. I am not trying to be an asshat here, just trying to educate. I see way too much hate and fanboyism on the net these days and all it does is reduce your choice for no good reason.and at the same time you are tarring others with your claims that nVidia are the best.doing them no favours either. Regards Jason -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 01 March 2010 21:36 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. My first Nvidia card was a Riva 128 which as you may remember was THE 1st 3D integrated video card ever sold and I stand by my opinion. As I said, when Nvidia diversified into their 1st chipsets they bled their video card driver efforts into other ventures. Clearly you're pissed at the company and I understand. Their upper management who CONTROL the software engineers are asshats for sure. They still have the best talent in the industry IMHO because they clearly have the MOST experience at it. On 3/1/2010 10:58 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: That makes no sense.you are blaming hardware designers and bean counters for poor programming. nVidias driver creators were ABYSMAL for 2 solid years and I have still seen nothing since the first properly working Vista driver that has made me go wow, excellent work..so 3 years + of creating barely stable drivers and you still want to argue they are the best driver engineers? 0_o I would sure like to see the evidence of your claim.because from where I have been sat these last few years, I have seen something completely different! And that's only the purely technical POV.all before we talk about the under-handed tactics they have done with disabling driver features when they detect there is an AMD card in the system also This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer
[H] NVIDIA Forceware 196.75 Drivers Made Available For Download
New drivers are supposed to include have a ton of bug fixes that are worth having. http://www.legitreviews.com/news/7502/
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
I was referring to Nvidia being first to engineer integrated 3D graphics. 2D graphics are the simple task of a video card by comparison. 3D graphics advancements drive video card development. And rapidly at that.. On 3/2/2010 10:19 AM, maccrawj wrote: ATi was in the graphics game a long before nVidia going way back to the EGA standard PC XT/AT systems. Did I miss something about your statement or do you miss that? nVidia's tactics with both physx disabling SLI on x48 SLI over licensing alone a reasons enough to never use them. Of course the ATI fan bug that affected so many non-BBA cards and never really got fixed has left a sour taste in mouth to say the least! Yada yada, both abandoning even base support for older chipsets under vista/7 should leave everyone screaming that non-existent 3rd choice player or at least that they opensource the older drivers. As has been said all brands will do crappy things over the years. Personal rant: there should be a law that when companies stop supporting hardware with drivers that they MUST opensource the last version's source code! =) On 3/2/2010 4:20 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: I am not pissed at nVidia, I do however feel some of their marketing tactics are devious and under-handedbut that's not what we are talking about here.we are talking mainly the technical POV. As someone who owns: 2 x 7800GT 1 x 8800GTX 1 x GTS250 1 x 4870x2 1 x 5870 And previously owned: X800GTO, 6600GT, 9700Pro, Ti4800, Ti4400, GF2 GTS, GF256, TNT2, TNT, Voodoo3etc .you could say I am more pro-nVidia then AMD.but even that would be drawing incorrect conclusions ;) And how does a 13 year old gfx card design have any bearing on what is produced today? How can you think that because nVidia have been in the game longer, they have the most experience? Surely, we are talking about the experience of the designers and programmers herethe guys that keep moving from one company to another and the guys who stagnate with ideas while fresher designers and programmers with much less experience produce the goods elsewhere.and this is why Fermi seems like it's going to be a really poor chip. Bad design choices made by a supposedly experienced engineer. I am not trying to be an asshat here, just trying to educate. I see way too much hate and fanboyism on the net these days and all it does is reduce your choice for no good reason.and at the same time you are tarring others with your claims that nVidia are the best.doing them no favours either. Regards Jason snip
Re: [H] [Bulk] If you own a PS3 and it connects to the net DO NOT TURN ON
Sony's problem was about a non-existent leap year Feb. 29th which has now passed. On 3/2/2010 10:41 AM, maccrawj wrote: I've been hearing it has nothing to do with network connecting everything to do with firmware bug hardware revisions older than the last 80GB fat/pre-slim models. That is to say the connecting part is domino effect to the actual problem rather than the source. This scream loudly that all DRM measures to prevent save game backup inter-account movement of those backups should be removed and a secure method (sony encrypted archive for example) of allowing local backup/restore of trophies just in case both the console AND the network loose the data. Not too mention if it's not a it just works bonehead console that never has issues, there has to be logs diagnostic methods exposed, but of course Sony is too busy with DRM to worry about giving the customer what they paid for! Sony stock actually finished up Monday, surprising. On 3/1/2010 1:38 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Yeah, I read about it on Twitter and apparently the PS3 forum members are up in arms about it. On 3/1/2010 2:53 PM, CW wrote: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1073007p1.html Sony has bricked their PSN Network. Talk about screwup on a mammoth scale. If your PS3 connects, you'll lose all your trophies, save points, and oh yes the ability to get online. Great! Sony expects a solution in 24 hours.
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
Never seen Windows Experience Index crash before. Is your video card OC'd, cooling fan spinning, adequate power from PSU? Doesn't make sense to me or maybe the card is defective. On 3/2/2010 10:44 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the ATI drivers from my system. then I went back and installed the ATI 10.2 CCC drivers. The good news is I could actually see and open CCC and the ATI folder from the program menu. This is one thing I could not do previously as the drivers software didn't install correctly. So, I can say from this taht Driver Cleaner actually helped out. However, with the ATI 10.2 CCC and drivers loaded, Windows Experience Index crashes the computer. Now, I don't think this is some kind of litmus test or anything, but that is a basic app built into Win7...it doesn't seem right that it just completely crashes my system to a black screen. I guess I can clean it gain and install the driver onlybut I thought I'd give an update firstas it takes me a why to get around to all this stuff. On 2/26/2010 8:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: This will do it http://www.drivercleaner.net/ w On 02/26/2010 13:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Do you have a way to do that? Used to be I had a way to open the control panel. Now, the only sign of an ATI driver is the ATI Install Manager in Remove Programs. I can also see the drivers in device manager when I look at the drivers for the display adapter. This obviously can't be right. This is basically a new install and now the damn drivers are screwing me up. Oh well, what's new with windows, right? :) On 2/26/2010 12:25 PM, maccrawj wrote: Do a full uninstall/cleaning of the anything ATI driver related, then install the oldest driver that will support your card. Assuming that works, backup and upgrade cautiously! Love my ATI 3870x2, would of just as happily done Nvidia had they made a dual gpu card and/or supported SLI on X48's, but ATI is having major driver issues this past year or so. Truth be told Both companies have totally fraked older generation chipsets by not maintaining driver support at all, even without new features though it still has not made their drivers any more stable IMHO. Currently both companies are on my personal shit list. On 2/26/2010 4:08 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Boy... Things have really gone bad over here I went to remove the 10.2 Cat. driverswell, I can't find any menu options in the Programs menulike they were never installed. Go into the Programs in Control panel...all I can find in there was the ATI Install Manager (or whatever it is called). I tried to remove that...didn't seem to work until the second time I ran it...then install the plain 10.2 driverwell, I could tell no difference with that, but it would still crash...then I looked in the ATI folder on my C drive...there I found the 10.2 Catalyst (WDM) driver folder, the 10.2 driver folder, and the previous 9.12 wdm drivers. So I installed that...but I still don't see any program options...if the catalyst stuff is installed I can't even find it on my system. Worse yet...just a moment ago my screen suddenly started displaying about an inch border along each side...rather than stretching to the very edge of the screen as it always has...after a few reboots and whatnots, I finally changed the refresh rate from 59 Hz to 60 Hz...and it went back to normal. I'm running 64-bit Win7 here. I had no problems with this display on this mobo until I install the ATI 5770 board and its drivers. Now there is no telling what will happen next. I wonder if the board is bad somehow On 2/26/2010 12:14 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Wow, that's too bad Anthony. Bummer! On 2/25/2010 9:38 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get directed to ATIs website where i got the 10.2 drivers. I install them...then ran WEI and it crashes the PC. I think I regret getting an ATI board. On 2/17/2010 3:02 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: I believe you will have to upgrade to a 5000 series card to see the benefits. Tempting no? On 2/17/2010 12:56 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: All this is great. But I have a 4890 and what is the perf gain on that card? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: 10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1. Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a major update. By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be updated. If it works as well as it looks like it will, we will see performance gains much sooner for newly released game titles. Despite not having as much of a cool factor as the application profiles does, let's not forget about
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
They are the best in the world and only fail when management and bean counters have them dilute their efforts with chipsets and other hardware that causes them to neglect their video card line which is their real bread and butter. Their latest serious dumb move was the same with their last video card line only much worse. They make the mistake of creating a behemoth of a chip die with the wrong process to support. 65 nm was too big for the last gen and 40 is too big for their current developement. And I wouldn't count on TSMC coming to their rescue with a die shrink like they did with 65nm-55nm last year. It will be quite some time until 28nm comes on line and that is what Nvidia needs for the rumored April 26 announcement. AMD/Ati will dominate video card sales this year because of that design decision from Nvidia. And I expect that with the improved business confidence of AMD's (and greatly improved cash flow) due to recent events they will do much to improve driver side. On 3/1/2010 4:56 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: I wouldn't really call them the best driver engineers when it took them until almost a year after Vistas release to make a driver that was stable.and they were working on it for a year prior to Vistas release. There is no best team, each one will have their moments over the years. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 26 February 2010 19:52 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions Read what Brent Justice has to write. He's no past fan of AMD/Ati drivers. http://bit.ly/9D6uJ4 I'm having no problems whatsoever with 10.2 or any past drivers. Never had any problems with Nvidia drivers either although they admittedly have the best driver engineers for video cards in the world and always have since Riva 128 days (had one myself back in the day). On 2/26/2010 11:25 AM, maccrawj wrote: Do a full uninstall/cleaning of the anything ATI driver related, then install the oldest driver that will support your card. Assuming that works, backup and upgrade cautiously! Love my ATI 3870x2, would of just as happily done Nvidia had they made a dual gpu card and/or supported SLI on X48's, but ATI is having major driver issues this past year or so. Truth be told Both companies have totally fraked older generation chipsets by not maintaining driver support at all, even without new features though it still has not made their drivers any more stable IMHO. Currently both companies are on my personal shit list. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
[H] The Smallest USB 3.0 Device in the World - Astro Drive A101 is seriously bad azz..
This is the best news for thumb drives ever. Imagine increasing read/write speeds from 30/20 to 186/130. Man I can't wait to get my hands on one of these for personal backups. http://www.legitreviews.com/news/7483/
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. My first Nvidia card was a Riva 128 which as you may remember was THE 1st 3D integrated video card ever sold and I stand by my opinion. As I said, when Nvidia diversified into their 1st chipsets they bled their video card driver efforts into other ventures. Clearly you're pissed at the company and I understand. Their upper management who CONTROL the software engineers are asshats for sure. They still have the best talent in the industry IMHO because they clearly have the MOST experience at it. On 3/1/2010 10:58 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: That makes no sense.you are blaming hardware designers and bean counters for poor programming. nVidias driver creators were ABYSMAL for 2 solid years and I have still seen nothing since the first properly working Vista driver that has made me go wow, excellent work..so 3 years + of creating barely stable drivers and you still want to argue they are the best driver engineers? 0_o I would sure like to see the evidence of your claim.because from where I have been sat these last few years, I have seen something completely different! And that's only the purely technical POV.all before we talk about the under-handed tactics they have done with disabling driver features when they detect there is an AMD card in the system also -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 01 March 2010 15:40 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions They are the best in the world and only fail when management and bean counters have them dilute their efforts with chipsets and other hardware that causes them to neglect their video card line which is their real bread and butter. Their latest serious dumb move was the same with their last video card line only much worse. They make the mistake of creating a behemoth of a chip die with the wrong process to support. 65 nm was too big for the last gen and 40 is too big for their current developement. And I wouldn't count on TSMC coming to their rescue with a die shrink like they did with 65nm-55nm last year. It will be quite some time until 28nm comes on line and that is what Nvidia needs for the rumored April 26 announcement. AMD/Ati will dominate video card sales this year because of that design decision from Nvidia. And I expect that with the improved business confidence of AMD's (and greatly improved cash flow) due to recent events they will do much to improve driver side. On 3/1/2010 4:56 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: I wouldn't really call them the best driver engineers when it took them until almost a year after Vistas release to make a driver that was stable.and they were working on it for a year prior to Vistas release. There is no best team, each one will have their moments over the years. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 26 February 2010 19:52 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions Read what Brent Justice has to write. He's no past fan of AMD/Ati drivers. http://bit.ly/9D6uJ4 I'm having no problems whatsoever with 10.2 or any past drivers. Never had any problems with Nvidia drivers either although they admittedly have the best driver engineers for video cards in the world and always have since Riva 128 days (had one myself back in the day). On 2/26/2010 11:25 AM, maccrawj wrote: Do a full uninstall/cleaning of the anything ATI driver related, then install the oldest driver that will support your card. Assuming that works, backup and upgrade cautiously! Love my ATI 3870x2, would of just as happily done Nvidia had they made a dual gpu card and/or supported SLI on X48's, but ATI is having major driver issues this past year or so. Truth be told Both companies have totally fraked older generation chipsets by not maintaining driver support at all, even without new features though it still has not made their drivers any more stable IMHO. Currently both companies are on my personal shit list. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list
Re: [H] [Bulk] If you own a PS3 and it connects to the net DO NOT TURN ON
Yeah, I read about it on Twitter and apparently the PS3 forum members are up in arms about it. On 3/1/2010 2:53 PM, CW wrote: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1073007p1.html Sony has bricked their PSN Network. Talk about screwup on a mammoth scale. If your PS3 connects, you'll lose all your trophies, save points, and oh yes the ability to get online. Great! Sony expects a solution in 24 hours.
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
Wow, that's too bad Anthony. Bummer! On 2/25/2010 9:38 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get directed to ATIs website where i got the 10.2 drivers. I install them...then ran WEI and it crashes the PC. I think I regret getting an ATI board. On 2/17/2010 3:02 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: I believe you will have to upgrade to a 5000 series card to see the benefits. Tempting no? On 2/17/2010 12:56 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: All this is great. But I have a 4890 and what is the perf gain on that card? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: 10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1. Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a major update. By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be updated. If it works as well as it looks like it will, we will see performance gains much sooner for newly released game titles. Despite not having as much of a cool factor as the application profiles does, let's not forget about the ATI PowerPlay. By downloading and updating to CATALYST 10.2 video card drivers, it means that consumers can save money on your electric bill, which is fantastic. Reducing your systems power draw by 7-12 Watts may not seem like a whole lot, but over time it does add up. If you are like me and leave your computer on pretty much 24/7 it will save you money in the long run. It's not every day that you get new features, improved performance and a reduction in power. This is by far one of the greatest updates in CATALYST history! As for the Catalyst 10.3 drivers, I have to say that I am looking forward to the 3D capabilities of it. I personally think that a nice 3-monitor Eyefinity configuration running in 3D will completely change the face of gaming! I may have to start saving my pennies for that. /*Legit Bottom Line:* With as much as a 22% performance gain as seen in Colin McRae: DiRT 2. Plus all the new features that make the Catalyst Suite 10.2/10.3 what it is, this Suite is a must have especially considering the cost of FREE!/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] How To Turn A Netbook Into A Full Page eReader
Agreed that eink is a much better screen for reading text. I only brought this to the collectives attention because not everyone has the money to spend on a dedicated ebook reader but have a netbook. I have neither myself but it seemed like a neat trick. On 2/23/2010 8:27 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: I suppose it's interesting, but it misses the biggest (and IMO, absolutely gigantic) advantage that a real eBook reader has, that neither netbooks nor the upcoming iPad do: use of reflected light. A backlit screen is awful when reading long passages of text, and the E Ink used by the Kindle, Nook, etc therefore make them superior platforms for this purpose. There are other advantages as well (battery life, built-in cellular network, etc), but the use of a backlight is a showstopper for me. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:56 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] How To Turn A Netbook Into A Full Page eReader Here's an interesting Tech Tip I got from Geeks.com. I thought it would be interesting to those thinking of buying an Apple tablet or Amazon Kindle or Sony etc. Not ready to give up paperbooks myself but eReaders are pretty big news this year so far and lots of peeps have Netbooks. How To Turn A Netbook Into A Full Page eReader snip
[H] How To Turn A Netbook Into A Full Page eReader
Here's an interesting Tech Tip I got from Geeks.com. I thought it would be interesting to those thinking of buying an Apple tablet or Amazon Kindle or Sony etc. Not ready to give up paperbooks myself but eReaders are pretty big news this year so far and lots of peeps have Netbooks. How To Turn A Netbook Into A Full Page eReader by Staff Writer - February 21, 2010 So, you have a netbook that you find handy for different computing tasks. Well, with a little effort, you may find it easy to use a netbook as a full page eReader. That's right, full page - not just a section of a graphic novel on the screen at a time. Plus, being able to view material in full color is something that dedicated eReaders cannot do. Screen Rotation First, let's do a little research - pick up a paperback or hardcover book, and look at the width to height ratios. Do you see how it's taller than it is wide? Okay, now let's look at your netbook. Well, this is no good, it's just the opposite - the netbook is wider than it is tall. But we can fix that. We are going to use an Asus 901 for our example, but you can check any netbook reviews http://www.testfreaks.com/netbooks/, to find a suitable netbook - they tend to be very similar in their hardware. Now, in order to get the screen to turn sideways, the easiest thing is to find a driver that will accommodate it. This is the easiest path, and luckily Intel provides a more than capable driver for these chipsets. As you can see from the driver screen shot, I only have to assign a hot key to rotate the screen when needed. I use ctrlalt + arrow keys so that I can rotate any direction at will, but you can map as you see fit. The important thing is that you want to be able to pull up the reader and then rotate your screen, and get back from it after your reading session is over. Get The Reader Okay, we now have the screen rotated, how about the reader? Well, for most graphic novel works, I like the cbr/cbz format, which is basically a zipped or rar archive of the book images. You can find many comics available on the web in this format. But for the reader itself, I suggest you look at the program Comical http://comical.sourceforge.net. From the readers I have tried, this is one of the fastest and most dependable. Download Comical and install it. Now, you will need something to read, so as a test try downloading Cory Doctorow's Futuristic Tales of the Here and Now http://www.archive.org/download/CoryDoctorowsFuturisticTalesOfTheHereAndNow/Cory_Doctorows_Futuristic_Tales_of_the_Here_and_Now_CBZ.cbz. Download it, and load it into Comical. Go to view/zoom/fit height, and then right click/full screen. With a little luck, you will have the following on your screen: As you may note, the screen is hard to read, and there is a lot of black dead space on the sides of the comic. But now hit your rotate hot key assigned above, hold the notebook rotated in your hands like you would a paperback, and you should have the following: While the Cory Doctorow image above is made smaller to fit on the page here, you can see that it is a full page image, and quite readable. Instead of having to scroll up and down to see the page, you just have to change pages. Fix the Keys And this is where the next detail of our task comes into play. Again, netbooks vary, but on the Asus 901 the page down key requires a function + down arrow to work. This is rather awkward when you are trying to read, so we need a better solution. The answer is in a free program called KeyTweak, http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/ which can be found at This program will allow you to remap the keys as needed for a number of uses, which in our case is a simple page down mode. Download and install KeyTweak, and set up your new key assignment. After you do that, it will be simple to hit a key to go to the next page while reading without having to hit the function key. Beyond Graphic Novels Of course, it can be used for more than just Comics. For example, below is a technical PDF shown full page on the netbook: As you can see, the entire table is on the screen and readable in the actual size full screen view, something that would be impossible with the standard orientation. *So there you have it*, a simple way to turn a cheap netbook on its side, using the screen in portrait mode for a full screen display, and even how to map a custom key to make it easy to navigate. Once you try using a turned netbook for full page reading, I think you will find it to be a capable eReader for a wide variety of material. Even laptops would work great as an eReader, and as laptop reviews http://www.testfreaks.com/laptops/ show, there are many from which to choose.
Re: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision
Coincidentally, I sold my old Abit BP-6/300a when I upgraded to an MSI mobo, Nvidia NF250, Athlon64 3000+ and a couple of IBM Deathstars in a RAID 0 configuration (couple years later dude I sold it to told me they failed). That was my first box with Windows XP coming from Win98. I don't miss any of that antique stuff but those were the days. On 2/20/2010 8:10 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Hah, well, that system was due for retirement anyway. It was just a fileserver for backups. I replaced it with some spare hardware--an upgrade to a single-core Athlon 64 3000+. They did quite well, though, to run at a50% overclock for a full decade. I actually suspect that the chips are still fine, but the motherboard was fried. Funny that I'm now running a 50% overclock again...my 2.4GHz quad-core Q6600 at 3.6GHz. This machine has been so stable and is still so quick that I've held off replacing it with a new i7 for some time already. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:45 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision Greg, Would you like a pair of replacements? Have a pair of matched 300a's and one spare, never opened, retail 300a. LOL! Odd, way back then it was 450 mega-hertz. Now, we all talk about 2.3 giga-hertz-plus :) How times have changed! Best, Duncan On 02/20/2010 01:05, Greg Sevart wrote: Oh, absolutely, but it doesn't always work out that way. Similar deal to the old 300MHz Pentium II's with the SL2W8 s-spec. Most did 450MHz just fine, but mine was always a little buggy. Then the Celeron 300A was the big thing, and I got two, both did 464MHz all day long for a full 10 years before they were finally knocked out of service by a PSU that went bad. Luck of the draw on either side, I suppose. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:04 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision Yeah, I have to agree but if you read as many hardware reviews as I do they practically say most will unlock and tout the bang for buck. I have a 0904 X3 720 BE that will unlock the 4th core stably and I bought it the same day NewEgg began to sell them. That was before anybody knew about ACC and unlocking cores/cache. I don't feel comfortable RMA'ing it as you say it works as advertised. Still, would have been nice to have a $104 quad core... On 2/19/2010 3:04 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Unethical. If it runs at its designed and advertised specifications, returning it for not exceeding them is just wrong. So is returning it for any reason or invoking the warranty now that you have overclocked and overvolted it, IMO. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:35 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision Well my new CPU came yesterday and it overclocks to 4 GHz stably with 1.4v which I don't consider excessive. However, it won't unlock the other 2 cores so I expect there is a defect in 1 or more of the unused cores. What is the collectives opinion on sending it back for a replacement? Ethical or not? What would you do if you wanted a cheap dually that you wanted to run as a quad? Thanks!
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
The reviews I've read say a single 5770 is almost as fast as a 4890 so no it wouldn't be able to keep up with 2 4870's in Crossfire. A single 5850 will drive 3 monitors by its self but you have the display port connection to worry about. The latest driver release by AMD (10.2) makes Eyefinity even better and next months 10.3 release will add bezel correction. Go to HardOCP and read their take on it. On 2/18/2010 7:01 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 04:42 PM 2/18/2010, you wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. well I do have a 30 inch monitor, but crossfire in a multi monitor setup has proved to be very annoying. I was thinking of a HD 5770. Wouldn't this, on it's own, be faster then my two 4870s in Crossfire?... (correction from my calling them 4970s originally.) If I popped for the 5850 would it be a benefit in a multi monitor setup where the monitors differ in size? By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote. Sorry, it was unintentional. I was just trying to clean things up so it was easier to follow, I should of just left the first sentence. Thanks for the help, I don't really know video cards.. I have no idea what is what. w On 2/18/2010 1:02 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Another reason I'm apposed to Crossfire or SLI is the energy usage goes way up and I want my machines to be efficient in that regard. One of the big attractions to me was the difference between the old 55nm 4850 and the new 40nm 5770. The 5770 is faster and my Kill-A-Watt meter shows a nice drop between the 2. And since I only have a 24 monitor I don't really need a 5850. The price difference is ~ $140 and that's a lot of cheddar to me. On 2/19/2010 2:00 AM, maccrawj wrote: LOL Stan! While larger screen means you need higher resolution to drive it, fact is every hotrod video card is going to crawl way sooner than later! Calling xfire or SLI overkill unless you have a huge screen is just fundamentally wrong. You need to turn the eye-candy settings back up on your games! On 2/18/2010 4:42 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote.
[H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision
Well my new CPU came yesterday and it overclocks to 4 GHz stably with 1.4v which I don't consider excessive. However, it won't unlock the other 2 cores so I expect there is a defect in 1 or more of the unused cores. What is the collectives opinion on sending it back for a replacement? Ethical or not? What would you do if you wanted a cheap dually that you wanted to run as a quad? Thanks!
Re: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision
Yeah, I have to agree but if you read as many hardware reviews as I do they practically say most will unlock and tout the bang for buck. I have a 0904 X3 720 BE that will unlock the 4th core stably and I bought it the same day NewEgg began to sell them. That was before anybody knew about ACC and unlocking cores/cache. I don't feel comfortable RMA'ing it as you say it works as advertised. Still, would have been nice to have a $104 quad core... On 2/19/2010 3:04 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Unethical. If it runs at its designed and advertised specifications, returning it for not exceeding them is just wrong. So is returning it for any reason or invoking the warranty now that you have overclocked and overvolted it, IMO. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:35 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New Phenom II X2 555 C3 revision Well my new CPU came yesterday and it overclocks to 4 GHz stably with 1.4v which I don't consider excessive. However, it won't unlock the other 2 cores so I expect there is a defect in 1 or more of the unused cores. What is the collectives opinion on sending it back for a replacement? Ethical or not? What would you do if you wanted a cheap dually that you wanted to run as a quad? Thanks!
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video card, the video card fan resets itself to run low RPM, buggy games will also cause problems at times, or a card going bad (only Nvidia on that so far) but never the Ati driver my friend. I've had an X1900XT 256M, HD3850, HD4850 and now an HD5770 in my experience. On 2/17/2010 3:29 PM, Winterlight wrote: Yes I am sure, I guess you missed Greg's post At 12:42 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: Are you sure that's what it is? I've been downloading and installing Ati drivers since my X1900XT and don't ever recall being forced to reboot because of them. On 2/17/2010 1:03 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 10:54 AM 2/17/2010, you wrote: It's been a long time since 2D acceleration was even an issue, no? I don't care if they perform better or not, I would just like to see some stable drivers from ATI so I don't have to reboot twice a day! On 2/17/2010 10:53 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: 2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Strong recommend
That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Strong recommend
Optical drives are dog slow and that includes the speed of the door opening and closing. Plus some games require that you have the disk in the drive and did I mention that the door is slow. Swapping disks is such a pain... On 2/18/2010 9:41 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I want to ask this for information purposes only...why bother ripping DVD and Blu-rays? I've done this...and frankly, I've lost interest in doing it. But I get the impression that some here are ripping multitudes of movies to magnetic media...I have a large collection of Blus and DVDs, but I don't watch anything frequently enough to need it online (like in my house). For new content, it does make some sense, though, if you don't want to own the content you an download it...but if I want to watch upstaris rather than down, then I just go get the disc...I'm not too lazy YET to do that...and it's way better than having an HD farm that sucking down juice 24/7 (it occurs to me that cheap HDs make this all too tempting to do, though, so I can get that). At least to me it is On 2/18/2010 10:23 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: That would be cool for BD when I decide to take the plunge and buy a BD-ROM. For DVD's I just have AnyDVD rip it to hardrive as an ISO. On 2/17/2010 6:08 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: www.makemkv.com Maybe one of the coolest tools I've used in forever. Instant, no compression conversion of BD and DVD. If your running mce and your used to archiving your content to use the movie library (or I use Mediabrowser and MyTv) then this comes as one of the best tools I've seen in years. It just works. Sent via BlackBerry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
If I could justify spending $300 my personal choice would be an HD5850. I'll never do Crossfire or SLI because to me it's just overkill unless you have a 30 monitor and want the fastest FPS you can get. By the way, by chopping my previous post you changed the meaning of what I originally wrote. On 2/18/2010 1:02 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 07:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote: I don't think it's the stability of the driver causing the need for frequent reboots. The only time I've ever had difficulties like that are from fold...@home GPU client misbehaving after my box has been running for several days, overclocking the video HD5770 in my experience. Well, you may be right. I have disconnected my other monitors and running just one 30 inch monitor off the second of the 4970s and it is working OK. I might just have a bad video card. I have never seen a video go out where they don't just die, but this one works and just keeps crapping out the display requiring a reboot. I will be running further tests to make sure... but right now I think one of my 4970s went bad. So what should I get to replace it? I run three monitors. I currently have the two 4970s. one handles two 24 inch Dells and one handles a 30 inch Gateway. I need to replace the one that handles the 30 inch. Would it be best to get another 4970? Or should I get a 5000 series and forget about Crossfire? Is there something I could get that would be crossfire in just one card for the 30 inch. Even better is there a card that would work with my existing 4970 to play games across all three monitors. Any and all advice appreciated. w
[H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Part 2 update: As you can see, the performance in Catalyst 10.1 (our hotfixed version, not the publicly-available driver #) is substantially better than Catalyst 9.12 with Aero enabled, in the case of polygons, even surpassing the performance of 9.12 in Windows XP. This is the fix we've been looking for. You'll also notice that, with the latest version of the benchmark # (linked on the previous page), we're also showing a performance drop with the Desktop Window Manager disabled. We've tested, retested, tested on multiple machines, and found the same results. ATI has done the same in its lab and not been able to reproduce our results. However, this is of less consequence to us, as there's little reason to disable Aero if the experience with it on is superior. Our numbers (and the ones ATI has run) agree in this regard. At the end of the day, the issue we originally reported has been addressed and tentatively fixed, with significant performance speed-ups in Windows 7 on the Radeon HD 5000-series cards with Aero enabled. Now, as mentioned, this driver isn't available yet. ATI says it will be integrating its fixes into a future release, but we wouldn't expect them until Catalyst 10.3 or 10.4; we'll post a news update when ATI confirms that the Catalyst driver has officially been updated with the fixes. Special thanks to ATI's software engineering team for quickly addressing the Windows 7-based issues we presented, implementing a quick (albeit not yet public) fix, and working with us to ensure that the folks buying these cards get the user experience they expect, regardless of whether they're gamers, artists, or engineers! http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2547-15.html On 2/17/2010 9:53 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: 2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html
[H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1. Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a major update. By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be updated. If it works as well as it looks like it will, we will see performance gains much sooner for newly released game titles. Despite not having as much of a cool factor as the application profiles does, let's not forget about the ATI PowerPlay. By downloading and updating to CATALYST 10.2 video card drivers, it means that consumers can save money on your electric bill, which is fantastic. Reducing your systems power draw by 7-12 Watts may not seem like a whole lot, but over time it does add up. If you are like me and leave your computer on pretty much 24/7 it will save you money in the long run. It's not every day that you get new features, improved performance and a reduction in power. This is by far one of the greatest updates in CATALYST history! As for the Catalyst 10.3 drivers, I have to say that I am looking forward to the 3D capabilities of it. I personally think that a nice 3-monitor Eyefinity configuration running in 3D will completely change the face of gaming! I may have to start saving my pennies for that. /*Legit Bottom Line:* With as much as a 22% performance gain as seen in Colin McRae: DiRT 2. Plus all the new features that make the Catalyst Suite 10.2/10.3 what it is, this Suite is a must have especially considering the cost of FREE!/
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Its still an issue for artists and engineers since the change in GDI to Direct2D with the release of Vista and DX10. I was just posting because of the general weirdness of my new HD5770 on Win 7. However, at the time I didn't know that 10.2 was to be released today. I've already downloaded and installed it myself. Cool? On 2/17/2010 12:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: It's been a long time since 2D acceleration was even an issue, no? On 2/17/2010 10:53 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: 2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
I just finished downloading and installing. Got my fingers crossed but haven't had much time with it because I'm reading reviews on 10.2 and 10.3 on a different box than my game machine. On 2/17/2010 12:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I hope all this comes true so I can feed good about buying a 5770. On 2/17/2010 1:33 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: 10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1. Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a major update. By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be updated. If it works as well as it looks like it will, we will see performance gains much sooner for newly released game titles. Despite not having as much of a cool factor as the application profiles does, let's not forget about the ATI PowerPlay. By downloading and updating to CATALYST 10.2 video card drivers, it means that consumers can save money on your electric bill, which is fantastic. Reducing your systems power draw by 7-12 Watts may not seem like a whole lot, but over time it does add up. If you are like me and leave your computer on pretty much 24/7 it will save you money in the long run. It's not every day that you get new features, improved performance and a reduction in power. This is by far one of the greatest updates in CATALYST history! As for the Catalyst 10.3 drivers, I have to say that I am looking forward to the 3D capabilities of it. I personally think that a nice 3-monitor Eyefinity configuration running in 3D will completely change the face of gaming! I may have to start saving my pennies for that. /*Legit Bottom Line:* With as much as a 22% performance gain as seen in Colin McRae: DiRT 2. Plus all the new features that make the Catalyst Suite 10.2/10.3 what it is, this Suite is a must have especially considering the cost of FREE!/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions
I believe you will have to upgrade to a 5000 series card to see the benefits. Tempting no? On 2/17/2010 12:56 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: All this is great. But I have a 4890 and what is the perf gain on that card? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: 10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1. Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a major update. By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be updated. If it works as well as it looks like it will, we will see performance gains much sooner for newly released game titles. Despite not having as much of a cool factor as the application profiles does, let's not forget about the ATI PowerPlay. By downloading and updating to CATALYST 10.2 video card drivers, it means that consumers can save money on your electric bill, which is fantastic. Reducing your systems power draw by 7-12 Watts may not seem like a whole lot, but over time it does add up. If you are like me and leave your computer on pretty much 24/7 it will save you money in the long run. It's not every day that you get new features, improved performance and a reduction in power. This is by far one of the greatest updates in CATALYST history! As for the Catalyst 10.3 drivers, I have to say that I am looking forward to the 3D capabilities of it. I personally think that a nice 3-monitor Eyefinity configuration running in 3D will completely change the face of gaming! I may have to start saving my pennies for that. /*Legit Bottom Line:* With as much as a 22% performance gain as seen in Colin McRae: DiRT 2. Plus all the new features that make the Catalyst Suite 10.2/10.3 what it is, this Suite is a must have especially considering the cost of FREE!/
Re: [H] 2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal?
Are you sure that's what it is? I've been downloading and installing Ati drivers since my X1900XT and don't ever recall being forced to reboot because of them. On 2/17/2010 1:03 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 10:54 AM 2/17/2010, you wrote: It's been a long time since 2D acceleration was even an issue, no? I don't care if they perform better or not, I would just like to see some stable drivers from ATI so I don't have to reboot twice a day! On 2/17/2010 10:53 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: 2D acceleration is another area that has problems with the latest video cards/drivers. Ati is mostly affected but Nvidia also has it's share of problems. There is a part 2 to this article that I'm reading next. Still going to be a few months before AMD gets mature drivers out to us but at this point in my gaming experience I still recommend the 5000 series. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-11.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/17/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
One of the monitors must have a Display Port connection and I'm not sure the adapter situation is straight just yet. Also, I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible. What are they? Cathode ray? On 2/10/2010 6:11 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Don't know if you're into it, but I've been eyeing the Matrix TripleHead2GO for months (years?) now and I just read that the new 5xxx series from ATI does Eyefinity, which is basically the equivalent of that Matrox device, but BUILT-IN to the videocard, and that most games are supporting it (basically the game sees it as just one really big monitor resolution). So I got a 4830 ~1.5 years ago for $90 for my old PC, but if I upgrade again, I'm going with an ATI 5xxx series for the multi-monitor support; I've got 3 20 panels that run at 1600x1200 and I'm itching to do an RTS on all three; check out the guru3d review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-eyfinity-editorial-review/ The videos (especially of RTS like CoH and Anno 1404, etc) are freakin' amazing! The ability to do that in digital output at my native monitor res with no issues of support for my card (all issues with the TH2GO) makes me glad I waited this long and didn't get the TH2GO (and some of ATI cards cost less than the TH2GO itself!). In fact, the newly announced 5570 (which is their lowest/budget gaming card) is only $70 and can do this too; so if you step up to a 58xx series (since it's in your budget), you should be golden! HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswelltorazch...@gmail.com To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veechve...@earthlink.net To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts. So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media Edition. What would you folks recommend for replacement video cards? I would probably stick with an SLI configuration unless a single ATI card comparably priced would blow it away. thanks!!
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
One 5850 will drive 3 monitors but one must have a Display port connection and all 3 monitors have to be running the same resolution so your 30 display would have to be set to 1920x1200 like your 24 ones. On 2/10/2010 8:39 PM, Winterlight wrote: I have a couple of Asus 4970s running three monitors. I have had a lot of cooling problems with them, bad fans, and now I think one of them has other problems. How do they compare to the 5000 series. Can I get one video card that is good for games but will drive one 30 inch and two 24 inch monitors, or will I always be using two video cards to handle this? thanks -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswell torazch...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts. So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media Edition. What would you folks recommend for replacement video cards? I would probably stick with an SLI configuration unless a single ATI card comparably priced would blow it away. thanks!!
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
This video article is old but it's a pretty good review of the technology and how it's hooked up and Catalyst is setup. Good luck and let us know about your experience if you decide to do it. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/28/amds_ati_eyefinity_technology_review/ On 2/11/2010 4:34 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Hey Stan, Not sure I understand what you mean by I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible...? Are you trying to say that's too many pixels or the reverse...? *confused* In my case, the monitors are 20 Dell flat-panel LCDs, two 2001FPs and one 2007FP and I read you can use a Displayport-DVI converter and it should work...unless you have heard differently? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:56 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? One of the monitors must have a Display Port connection and I'm not sure the adapter situation is straight just yet. Also, I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible. What are they? Cathode ray? On 2/10/2010 6:11 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Don't know if you're into it, but I've been eyeing the Matrix TripleHead2GO for months (years?) now and I just read that the new 5xxx series from ATI does Eyefinity, which is basically the equivalent of that Matrox device, but BUILT-IN to the videocard, and that most games are supporting it (basically the game sees it as just one really big monitor resolution). So I got a 4830 ~1.5 years ago for $90 for my old PC, but if I upgrade again, I'm going with an ATI 5xxx series for the multi-monitor support; I've got 3 20 panels that run at 1600x1200 and I'm itching to do an RTS on all three; check out the guru3d review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-eyfinity-editorial-review/ The videos (especially of RTS like CoH and Anno 1404, etc) are freakin' amazing! The ability to do that in digital output at my native monitor res with no issues of support for my card (all issues with the TH2GO) makes me glad I waited this long and didn't get the TH2GO (and some of ATI cards cost less than the TH2GO itself!). In fact, the newly announced 5570 (which is their lowest/budget gaming card) is only $70 and can do this too; so if you step up to a 58xx series (since it's in your budget), you should be golden! HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswelltorazch...@gmail.com To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veechve...@earthlink.net To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected
Re: [H] Best board and chip going right now?
I agree and the same thing happened mid 2008 with the HD4800 series. Took several months for the drivers to mature but hey the HD58XX is new hardware and that's to be expected. On 2/8/2010 8:16 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I suspect you may be right, Duncan. I recently upgraded to an ATI 5770 on an Intel Mobo. While the display looks nice, it's not as stable as the old GTS8800 I had (which I moved to the other PC). The drivers seem to be the problem. I have an ATI 4650 on the AMD system in the office...that seems to work better. On 2/8/2010 7:52 PM, DSinc wrote: OK. $600 for WHICH board and WHAT CHIP? (sorry, this is long..) If this an nVidia vs AIT video card question, fine. I will share.. I have now used 3 ATI video chips (cards). I have replaced one ATI video chip with a Matrox G200 Video card. Well, just because I believe the on-board ATI video chip just does not wish to move modern. I get this. It is MY PROBLEM. It is a really old INTEL m/b. (Chris! You get to laugh now!!! But, the STL2 is still trucking! Happy I am!) I HAD an ATI 4350. Worked OK. Nothing spectacular. OK working video. YMMV. I replaced it with an nVidia 9600GT(S). Video is much better to my tired OLD eyes. (it is now a usable spare.) I have still an ATI 4650. I write this using it. But, I will soon pull it and put another nVidia 9600GT(S) in its' place. No. Even I can NOT afford the latest nVidia offer. Either by HEAT, or, dollars! I have tried (lived with) ATI video cards for 4 years. I still do not care for them. I have grown tired of repair/alternate installs/fixes needed to fix BS video card coded crash reasons and/or BlueScreens(2K/XP). I get tire of BS quickly now. That is just my ONE vote! [Stan! Sue me!] So, I am an nVidia kind-of-guy again (still). I started there. I am now just coming home..I feel. My last ATI video card will get replaced with another (spare) nvidia 9600GT(S). Then, I will shop NEW spares! I would love to own a handful of GTS250's. I am not certain that TVA and/or (or my electric meter) can supply enough TRONS to make the $$$ worth even a giggle-test! I like/use the 9600-series nVidia card ATM. FWIW. YMMV. Best, Duncan On 02/08/2010 18:15, Veech wrote: Say $600 for board and chip. I haven't owned ATI in ages and am only making this change because the GeForce cards are going out on me. I'm looking for recs on a board that plays nice with the 5850 card (a board that has PCIe 2.0 and is capable of upgrade path to a second graphics card in crossfire) and I'm looking for a quad-core CPU. So it's not bleeding edge but a board and chip in the same class as the graphics card -- higher-end bang-for-buck soluton that will last thorugh the next couple of generations. thanks! - Original Message - From: tmse...@rlrnews.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 13:55 Subject: Re: [H] Best board and chip going right now? best is subjective... I mean, on what kind of budget? Best bang for the buck may be an i5-750/p55 combo. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:33:40 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Best board and chip going right now? thanks Boz... I have pretty much decided on getting the ATI 5850 graphics card at this point. Now the question is, do I want to upgrade the board and chip while I'm at it? If I decide to do so, I would really prefer to not have to upgrade OS as XP seems to be working ok for me for now and I just don't want to have to hassle with reloading all my programs.. *sigh* So based on going with the 5850 graphics card, what board and CPU is the way to go at this point? If I *have* to go to Windows 7 then I will, but I just want a quick fix at this point. - Original Message - From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:03 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswell torazch...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800
