They are the best in the world and only fail when management and bean counters have them dilute their efforts with chipsets and other hardware that causes them to neglect their video card line which is their real bread and butter. Their latest serious dumb move was the same with their last video card line only much worse. They make the mistake of creating a behemoth of a chip die with the wrong process to support. 65 nm was too big for the last gen and 40 is too big for their current developement. And I wouldn't count on TSMC coming to their rescue with a die shrink like they did with 65nm->55nm last year. It will be quite some time until 28nm comes on line and that is what Nvidia needs for the rumored April 26 announcement. AMD/Ati will dominate video card sales this year because of that design decision from Nvidia. And I expect that with the improved business confidence of AMD's (and greatly improved cash flow) due to recent events they will do much to improve driver side.

On 3/1/2010 4:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I wouldn't really call them the best driver engineers when it took them until 
almost a year after Vistas release to make a driver that was stable.....and 
they were working on it for a year prior to Vistas release.....

There is no best team, each one will have their moments over the years.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: 26 February 2010 19:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2&  10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and 
conclusions

Read what Brent Justice has to write. He's no past fan of AMD/Ati
drivers. http://bit.ly/9D6uJ4
I'm having no problems whatsoever with 10.2 or any past drivers. Never
had any problems with Nvidia drivers either although they admittedly
have the best driver engineers for video cards in the world and always
have since Riva 128 days (had one myself back in the day).


On 2/26/2010 11:25 AM, maccrawj wrote:
Do a full uninstall/cleaning of the anything ATI driver related, then
install the oldest driver that will support your card.

Assuming that works, backup and upgrade cautiously!

Love my ATI 3870x2, would of just as happily done Nvidia had they made
a dual gpu card and/or supported SLI on X48's, but ATI is having major
driver issues this past year or so. Truth be told Both companies have
totally fraked older generation chipsets by not maintaining driver
support at all, even without new features though it still has not made
their drivers any more stable IMHO. Currently both companies are on my
personal shit list.

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