I was referring to Nvidia being first to engineer integrated 3D graphics. 2D graphics are the simple task of a video card by comparison. 3D graphics advancements drive video card development. And rapidly at that..

On 3/2/2010 10:19 AM, maccrawj wrote:
ATi was in the graphics game a long before nVidia going way back to the EGA standard & PC XT/AT systems. Did I miss something about your statement or do you miss that?

nVidia's "tactics" with both physx & disabling SLI on x48 SLI over "licensing" alone a reasons enough to never use them. Of course the ATI fan bug that affected so many non-BBA cards and never really got fixed has left a sour taste in mouth to say the least! Yada yada, both abandoning even base support for older chipsets under vista/7 should leave everyone screaming that non-existent 3rd choice player or at least that they opensource the older drivers. As has been said all brands will do crappy things over the years.

Personal rant: there should be a law that when companies stop supporting hardware with drivers that they MUST opensource the last version's source code! =)

On 3/2/2010 4:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I am not pissed at nVidia, I do however feel some of their marketing tactics are devious and under-handed....but that's not what we are talking about here.....we are talking mainly the technical POV.

As someone who owns:

2 x 7800GT
1 x 8800GTX
1 x GTS250
1 x 4870x2
1 x 5870

And previously owned:

X800GTO, 6600GT, 9700Pro, Ti4800, Ti4400, GF2 GTS, GF256, TNT2, TNT, Voodoo3....etc

.....you could say I am more pro-nVidia then AMD.....but even that would be drawing incorrect conclusions ;)

And how does a 13 year old gfx card design have any bearing on what is produced today?

How can you think that because nVidia have been in the game longer, "they" have the most experience? Surely, we are talking about the experience of the designers and programmers here....the guys that keep moving from one company to another and the guys who stagnate with ideas while fresher designers and programmers with much less experience produce the goods elsewhere.....and this is why Fermi seems like it's going to be a really poor chip. Bad design choices made by a supposedly experienced engineer.

I am not trying to be an asshat here, just trying to educate. I see way too much hate and fanboyism on the net these days and all it does is reduce your choice for no good reason.....and at the same time you are tarring others with your claims that "nVidia are the best".....doing them no favours either.

Regards
Jason


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